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Batch-o-Moz: Firefox, Thunderbird, Suite Released
bluephone writes "Today Mozilla.org has unleashed a triple threat; Firefox 1.0PR, Thunderbird 0.8, and Mozilla Suite 1.7.3. Wow. Lots of news in all three fronts. so, for your release notes, sys-requirements, what's new, and download links, here you go. Firefox, Thunderbird, and Mozilla Suite. Enjoy."
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The requested URL
Anyone got a torrent up?
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/
and
http://www.getfirefox.com/
No, it's not 1.0, it's 0.10 a.k.a. 1.0 Preview Release 1... 1.0 final will come in november 2004.
Love Firefox, but I wish they'd fix the bugs.
I am still stuck at Firefox 0.8 under Linux with Enlightenment due to serious focus problems with the recent releases.. And I do not want to be left behind!
I open everything in new windows and usually close them using the keyboard. That does not work if the focus is wrong, etc. Mouse-centric folk won't notice this much but it is a killer for me.
I think this is the bug and it looks like it is being ignored:
252178
There's also a new community marketing effort at SpreadFirefox.com, and one of their first goals is 1 million downloads in 10 days. Come on Slashdot, spread the word, we can do it!
In addition to the release of new versions of Firefox, Thunderbird, and Mozilla suite, the Mozilla Foundation have launched a new marketing campign titled Spread Firefox.
The goal is to see 1,000,000 downloads achieved in the first 10 days!
Get downloading Slashdot.
Ross Kendall Web Consultant and Developer (UK) - Drupal and Open Source Solutions
No sign of the slashcode rendering bug either.
"The 1.0 final release won't be out for another month or so"
"The version number for this release is 0.10PR. For those who still count in decimal, 0.10 is larger than 0.9, despite what you were taught in school."
RTFA
I did one this week-end.
The guy (in his 50's) had dramatic pop-up and scumware problems. I pointed him to mozilla + adaware, thinking that, he would not care, because it is not IE.
Boy I was wrong. He was over-enthusiast. He downloaded it as fast as possible, and now is not using ie anymore.
I am really impressed, as it is the first time I convert someone over 30.
Pop-up blocking, annoyance killing is *the* selling point of firefox. I didn't knew how fucked was ie browsing until I talked with this guy. The web was becoming useless for him, and he was driven crazy by frustration.
These are generally the only two apps I need to suggest for PC users having problems. One other app that just makes people happy is PDFCreator (pdfcreator.sf.net) which adds a PDF printer to your system printer folder - great if you don't want to shell out $100 for acrobat.
COMMENT RETRACTED. There appears to be a "Sort by Name" option on the right click menu. Firefox is now the perfect browser!
So its YOU thats causing all the errors on slashdot doubling the server load!
.9.1).
To fix the screen without redownloading, just increase, then decrease the font size (hold down [ctrl] + mouse wheel up then down).
Its a PITA that there is a problem in the first place, but thats the way it is.
btw, has anyone else noticed popups coming from slash (work machine is IE6 on xp sp1) Not even noticed it at home (firefox
liqbase
HTH.
Not necessarily. Microsoft should feel threatened by these releases.. :)
Ah, here's the link to that bug.
And in true MS style, the solution is... not to use that word at the start of email messages.
org.slashdot.post.SignatureNotFoundException: ewg
The link to PDFCreator you gave is a dead site, try the Sourceforge project page instead... http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/
Yes, I googled and yes there is a solution involving a shell script(s) and installing arcane extention in 'Fox, but:
This solution does not work for me; and overall, the shell script thing will be an immeditate turn off for someone converting from Windows (where by the way, Fox and Bird integrate perfectly including even XP login screen).
So does anyone know if there was any progress on this front with the new releases?
There are none... :-/
Working on it: bug 159999
It seems that Firefox doesn't render these iframes properly.
One solution to your "saved" idea is to add a folder to your "bookmarks toolbar" folder. Place your favorites into it; upon startup, merely click on that folder, and choose "open in tabs".
help me i've cloned myself and can't remember which one I am
Here ya go!
You can now subscribe to and read RSS feeds in your Bookmarks. When you visit a page that advertises a RSS feed by using a <link> tag, an (RSS) icon will appear in the status bar. Click it to view a list of feeds the page is offering. Click one to subscribe - this adds a Bookmark Folder that contains all the recent posts from the feed.
Find is easier and more powerful now with our new Find toolbar. The Find toolbar (which shows at the bottom of the browser window) automatically highlights text in the page as you type and has a useful highlight feature.
You can now open blocked popups, and the Extension install system now blocks all attempts to install software from sites other than update.mozilla.org. Users can add other sites to a list that allows them to offer software, but software is never automatically installed. In addition to these steps, several other measures have been taken to prevent phishing attacks and to highlight when a page is being viewed over a secure connection.
Numerous improvements to bookmarks including more reliable presentation of Site icons, and a split pane view in the Bookmarks window.
Passwords saved with the Password Manager can now be more easily encrypted with strong encryption by creating a "Master Password". If you create a Master Password, you are prompted once per session to enter the Master Password so that Password Manager can automatically fill in site logins. A useful feature for people who share computers with others and want improved security.
Undetectable document.all support for site compatibility and improved compatibility for keyboard accelerators further smooth the transition for IE users
You can now configure Firefox as your Default Browser on GNOME, and Firefox will adhere to your GNOME settings for edit field key bindings, etc.
Openoffice exports to pdf.
I recently asked the MoFo for information on mass deployments of FF and this is part of the answer: "[...] Misson Desktop Control [...] assists IS departments dynamically customise preferences. Further Firefox 1.0 will also come packagae with a MSI installer."
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There are extensions that prevent tabs from stealing focus.
I find it funny that I have NEVER had this problem with Firefox. Never, not once. I honestly have no idea what people are referring to. /. has never rendered poorly via Firefox.
Jason Lotito
Think of it as "Zero point eight" , "Zero point nine", "Zero point ten" and so on.
Much the same numbering system as used by ATI's Catalyst Drivers.
I have no sig yet I must scream.
about:config
Type extension in the filter and change extensions.disabledObsolete to false.
Mine happens to be called Mozilla Spacebird right now... Just install Firesomething and get it out of your system :D
Don't mind me, I'm just carping the diem...
Hey, it's fixed in the trunk. I believe the fix will be in 1.0 final.
Until then, just resize the font on the page when it renders badly... and boom! fixed!
Jay | http://oldos.org
Pressing ctrl + D on firefox focuses the address bar, but doesn't highlight the text.
Try ctrl + L
Install TabBrowser Extensions. It has the save features (among other really nice enhancements)
You better watch out, there may be dogs about . .
With the new additions to Thunderbird I can finally convert over to it from Outlook. *However* make sure you set aside a good few hours for this task if you're like me and have many many emails.
At present the import wizard is attempting to umm... import my stuff from Outlook, but I'm guessing it's not liking my 37k+ emails too much - one hour in and the progress bar isn't even at 1/4.
Oh and a gripe about the latest Firefox - it's acting a bit 'odd' with compatible extensions and themes. Attempting to install the updates I get "invalid jar bla bla bla." After a few attempts it typically works, but that's more of an annoyance than is really necessary.
After all this is done I guess I'll check out Mozilla Suite. Any views on this package?
Since I got a Gmail account I open Tbird maybe three times a week to see if I forgot to forward anything important to it...
The main problem I have in converting people to Tbird is that it has no support for outlook, Yahoo or MSN. And yes, I am aware there are programs to do it, but having to say "Well, NO it doesnt check yahoo, but you can download and configure this other little program to make it work" really doesn't present it in a flattering light.
If you can't see the value in jet powered ants you should turn in your nerd card. - Dunbal (464142)
I disagree. Whenever I introduce someone (mostly people who only use their computer when they have to) to Firefox, I always tae a minut or two to explain tabbed browsing, and turn off auto-scroll so they can middle click to open links in a new tab.
So far they've all raved about tabbed browsing once they've used FF for a bit.
Yes, there is a way. It is called the Single Window extension. Makes link unable to open new windows by themselves (open in tabs, as you wished) but *you* can still right click and chose to open in a new window.
Slashdot anagrams to "Sad Sloth"
I'll second CutePDF. It's been good quality and I haven't noticed bugs. I deployed it on a couple machines here at work, although the boss doesn't like it because we standardized on Adobe Acrobat (which I'll admit has more features) and he doesn't want to support two applications (CutePDF needs no support - it just works). So instead, the departments just send us all their documents because they don't want to pay for an Adobe license :P
The Session Saver extension will do what you want, I think.
The regular Mozilla is MUCH more stable. What i do fro myself and my users, is download the FULL Mozilla 1.7 package, and install the browser only. This way, mailto: links will go to my Gmail account (I have the Gmail Notifier), and for people that use Outlook, their mailto: link work too. I really don't like Firefox, as it isnt stable for me, and the GUI looks like a Jelly-Bean IE.
Nothing for you to see here, Please move along.
As I understand it, the Thunderbird spam filter is bayesian. This means that you have to teach it. To begin with it won't be very good, but as you mark your email as spam or non-spam it learns what both types look like. Given the right stimuli, this can work very well.
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124750
Figured out the problem. It was the User Agent Switcher plug-in. It was set to IE, which caused FF to get bongled when loading the java plug-in.
To fix: go into prefs.js and set the general.useragent.override to an empty string. This will allow FF to start.
Life is like a web application. Sometime you need cookies just to get by.
and turn off auto-scroll so they can middle click to open links in a new tab.
Just FYI, you don't need to disable auto-scroll. The middle click is context sensitive, and will open tabs on links.
.sigh
According to another comment I've just read it's caused by inline iframes in some of the ads, so perhaps if you're blocking the ads you won't see the problem.
Download a bho remover http://www.computing.net/windowsme/wwwboard/forum/ 43535.html
use msconfig, look in task manager, or use sysinternal's procexp, and you should be able to remove it yourself http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp .shtml
Startup Control Panel
http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
I've created ff and tb msi releases. Available ata -msi .html
http://biomicro.mit.edu/people/patpaul/mozill
I've had good luck with them, as have other sysadmins, who email me when the version on the page doesn't match the latest version.
Do you see the sig? Do you have it in your sights? Why yes, Miss Moneypenny...
C'mon, go the extra step and link it! :-) And the homepage is here.
Yep. By default when you enter something in the url bar that is not a site it will do a "I'm feeling lucky" search on Google.
q =" (there's no space in there, Slashdot inserts it). That should do the trick. You can of course change the url to be whatever search engine you prefer.
If you don't want this and prefer to get the full Google results instead, open the url about:config. Type "keyword.URL" into the filter box, and change the value to "http://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Search&
Another neat trick is setting up keywords. By creating a bookmark and adding a keyword to it, the %s part of a bookmark will be replaced with whatever is in the url bar at the moment. That way you can set up custom searches for IMDB, Google Groups, Google News, Wikipedia, etc. After that, searching Wikipedia as an example is as easy as entering "w sometopic" in the url bar. I've got a whole slew of keywords for doing online translations between different languages, dictionary lookups etc.
It's like deja vu all over again.
For one, am I really forced to press ctrl to stop links from opening in a new window? And those links that use a new window, there's really no way to keep them in tabs?
I recommend the Mouse Gestures extension. I always open my links in a tab with gestures. That's the only thing I missed when I switched from the big O, but wouldn't switch back now.
After 3 days without programming, life becomes meaningless
- The Tao of Programming
Unfortunately, no. It has been corrected in the trunk, but Firefox 1.0PR is not using the latest version, it aims for "stability" :-(
- Type about:config in the URL bar.
- In the Filter field, type tabfocus.
- Double-click on the accessibility.tabfocus preference.
- Change the value to 7.
You might have to restart the browser.if you know this is the case, mister firefox, why the hell does your installer not do it for me?
My installer on Windows *did* do this for me. I completely forgot to disable my extensions, but it told me X, Y, and Z extensions were not going to work and would be disabled automatically. Maybe that snippit from the release notes was just blindly pasted in from a previous release?
He's a web developer and doesn't use Firefox? Yikes.
Here's how to convert Web developers. Point them to this page:
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/ (Especially the complexspiral one)
Go there in Firefox/Moz and in IE at the same time. Ask them to compare, and just stand back.
SYS 64738 NO CARRIER
Look at the older extensions and hit the guy up for the source code. Or kidnap his family and make him make you the plugin for v1.0.
It was called Enhanced Tab Browsing or something like that.
It isn't responsibility of the Firefox developers to update all plugins, since they are unsupported by mozilla.org. Any plugin they choose to endorse they pretty much have to provide support for.
But find out where to request features, and request the heck out of it.
Please stop stalking me, bro.
You can ctrl+tab between tabs too. I got used to it pretty fast
Sorry, I'm just too damn lazy! Plus I use an extension to Firefoz which automatically converts any links / emails to hyperlinks for me.
Have a look at http://www.beggarchooser.com/firefox/ (*ahem* http://www.beggarchooser.com/firefox/) - converts text links to genuine, bona fide hyperlinks.
Doesn't look like the Slashdot rendering bug has been fixed yet, though. Since the Firefox team doesn't seem to care, perhaps the Slashcode authors could a hack to fix this?
They do care, it's been fixed in the trunk. Not sure if this will make it to 1.0 release though.
Firefox was finally fixed to use the proper GTK2 keybindings by bug 257405. (No link, b.m.o blocks them from Slashdot) So for example, Ctrl-A finally selects all. If you don't like it, I think you're supposed to change your GTK prefs to use emacs-style, or use a GTK1 build which still has the old configuration.
Personally, I prefer shortcuts that actually make sense and match every other GUI app in existence.
Hey, it's fixed in the trunk. I believe the fix will be in 1.0 final.
Not necessarily so, it doesn't block 1.0 so it's not guaranteed to be fixed in it, it might be but last comments in the bug suggest there still might be some regressions so it won't go into big release like 1.0 if they're not absolutely sure it won't break anything else.
So it's not automatically in until the next branch, whenever that is. 1.1?
Not yet on the Mozilla FTP server, but you can get it from here. Just installed it with 1.0PR.
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
I know you're not flaming or anything but here's my take. ///Some sites still don't render quite right///
///It bombs MUCH more than IE did///
I think that while it's kind of annoying, it's the web designer using IE-specific tags creating the website (for the most part).
I worked with a company who had a paysite and they had the worst html I've ever seen. No doctype header, no meta tags other than keywords, and loads and loads of sloppy html and nested tables.
I designed them a site using some CSS and cleaned up their code and got rid of some tables and they never used it.
My brother has also been struggling with his boss who designed some pages in Adobe's web design software, and had tables upon tables with different amounts of columns per row.
I've had the opposite experience, but I believe you. I've also noticed that when IE bombs, ALL IE windows bomb, Explorer bombs.
Keep in mind whenever you use a pre-v1 release of a product, you're liable to experience problems and your problems will be better resolved reporting them to the development team.
Please stop stalking me, bro.
Torrent for win32 installers
I use all three of these programs. No one program finds everything. Oh, and also use a virus scanner, of course.
The about:config setting extensions.disabledObsolete seems to default to true. Try setting this to false instead.
I find Ctrl+PgUp and Ctrl+PgDn much more efficient.
Unfortunately, many extensions check for Firefox versions higher than a certain for compatibility. This new Firefox broke more than half of the extensions installed in my previous version.
You know, Microsoft's street address also says a lot about their mentality.
Well, ctrl+shift+tab reverses the order of tab traversal. Or, you could use the earlier suggestion someone had of using ctrl+pgup and ctrl+pgdn.
Come on, man...this is firefox! Nothing is impossible! :-)
but have you considered the following argument: shut up.
In conjuntion with HijackThis, I use Process Explorer when supporting our customers. It's really invaluable for Killing Processes or Process Trees of spyware like Bubba.wintools that continually regenerate all of its files and registry entries if they are running.
It's sad that we went from caring about how cookies affect our privacy to frantically trying to keep our computers free of extremely persistant little programs that are free to do whatever they want with your data.
More about it here: http://www.gpc.edu/~jbenson/resource/winmail.htm
I used WMDecode from http://www.biblet.com/ to decode some attachments my coworker received from someone outside the firm in a winmail.dat file.
Setting "app.extensions.version" to something like 0.9 works for the rest [where Firefox functionality hasn't changed which would normally break the extension, of course.] =)
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