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SpaceCanary writes "I recently read this open letter to Windows and I think it's pretty funny. The guy writes a letter to his OS as if he was breaking up with it. It's a bit strange, but finally more people are starting to see the light and moving away from Windows. The writer chronicles his relationship with the versions of Windows and finally is able to move on in the end."

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  1. Dear Internet, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dear Internet,

    I wish you weren't filled with self-righteous idiots who can only express themselves in manifestos, open letters, and rants. I wish people knew how to write meaningful criticism instead of half-hearted sarcasm.

    Sincerely,
    John Q. Irony

    1. Re:Dear Internet, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm TrackBacking my blog to this post. Anyone have a Permalink?

    2. Re:Dear Internet, by mabu · · Score: 4, Funny


      Dear John Q. Irony

      We understand how important it is for people to feel someone listens when they offer comments and suggestions. As a result, we've developed this automated attendant to help process your inquiry.

      Thank you very much for your letter. Your letter is important to us. But first please check our knowledge base, F.A.Q., and unofficial message forums. If this fails, fill out the 3-page customer service ticket at http://internet.com/cust/level1/sectionA/form1a.cf m

      If this fails, you can speak to a customer service representative but please make sure to do so during standard business hours in the country of Pakistan, and have Java, ActiveX, Flash, Quicktime and the latest version of IE before you visit the user support area.

      Thank you. We do care.

      - Internet Inc.

    3. Re:Dear Internet, by Txiasaeia · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm using Windows XP by choice. Monopoly or not, Microsoft knows how to build a solid OS. I've used various distros of Linux and it's okay, but I keep on coming back to Microsoft because it's simply easy to use, looks good, and doesn't take too long to load up. That and games ;) Just thought you'd like to know that some of us use Windows XP by choice and not by default.

      Now internet explorer, on the other hand, I wouldn't touch with a 10 pica pole. I switched to Opera a few years ago and have been *much* happier.

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      Condemnant quod non intellegunt.
    4. Re:Dear Internet, by Txiasaeia · · Score: 5, Informative

      Huh? Of course I'm serious about using XP on purpose. I'm not quite sure why I was modded flamebait, but I don't need a lot of intensive programs, and I prefer microsoft alternatives (MS office vs openoffice, windows vs linux, etc.) I'm not interested in building my OS from scratch, and I just feel like Windows XP is a more finished product than Linux (specifically, Mandrake & Red Hat). My computer isn't my hobby, it's my entertainment, and seriously, I've had zero to no problems with Windows XP.

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      Condemnant quod non intellegunt.
    5. Re:Dear Internet, by Txiasaeia · · Score: 2, Funny

      I understand that our dear community here is linux-centric, but I would think that people would be more interested in quality than the economics surrounding a specific software package. You're all Marxists, Marxists I say! ;)

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      Condemnant quod non intellegunt.
    6. Re:Dear Internet, by IAR80 · · Score: 2, Funny

      God damn comunist bastards! Bolshevics! In Soviet Russia Linux watches you!

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      http://ebgp.net/ccc/
    7. Re:Dear Internet, by airConditionedGypsy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      My computer isn't my hobby, it's my entertainment, and seriously, I've had zero to no problems with Windows XP.

      Really? Hmmm. I've got a JPEG you'd probably like to see.

      On the serious side, if it works for you, that's cool. There is a bit of a curve to switching, but it is no greater than the curve that someone has to climb when encountering a Windows-based OS for the first time.

      FOSS is all about choice. If you choose to use what many in this crowd (including me) believe to be an inferior operating system, then you should be free to do so. But time will tell which is more "polished."

      --
      I bootleg Fizzy Lifting Drinks.
    8. Re:Dear Internet, by vsprintf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Monopoly or not, Microsoft knows how to build a solid OS.

      You mean solid as in very big and thick as a brick? Or do you mean solid as in being an immovable, easy target for malware? As a former user, Windows doesn't fit my definition of a "solid OS". A solid OS isn't swiss cheese that requires virus scanners, anti-spyware tools, and anti-adware tools that suck up system resources while watching for bad things that the OS allows. Microsoft definitely knows how to market their software, which is a very different thing from building a solid product.

    9. Re:Dear Internet, by kjamez · · Score: 3, Insightful

      i use xp by choice as well ... behind a solid [linux] firewall, an xp box is just as safe an secure as any other. use ssh [putty?]. use pine [thunderbird?], whatever: just not outlook. i use it for the applications (flash, 3d studio max, vegas, etc, etc) ... that all have working linux alternatives, mind you, but i still like having the macromedia vesion of flash mx, yano?
      the linux box dhcp's the modem on eth0 and routes to eth1 : i have a linksys router which forwards port 21 and 22 only for me, to a linux box. the box does samba shares, ftp, etc, etc ... for my local network. nothing really get's past it. i use windows for work primarily but i do so knowing that it is safely behind the my firewall, and never ever reads email (locally) ... but i would never ever ever do what comcast/adelphia/etc says is the only way they will offer you any tech support: with the modem directly connected to the computer [xp].

      i'm sure a lot of you do the same ...

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      you can't have everything, where would you put it?
    10. Re:Dear Internet, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wow, you should consider starting a series called "Queer Eye for the Desktop".

    11. Re:Dear Internet, by Don+Negro · · Score: 2, Funny

      I agree with you about IE, but if you're dislike of it is so weak that you only maintain a one-and-two-thirds inch distance from it, I'm surprised you bothered to post about it at all.

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      Don Negro
      Perl 6 will give you the big knob. -- Larry Wall

    12. Re:Dear Internet, by Craig+Maloney · · Score: 3, Funny
      Y'know, with a few edits, your sentence could sound like it came from Zippy the Pinhead:

      YOW! I'm TrackBacking my blog to this post from my Barcalounger. Anyone have a Permalink?

  2. /.ed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Something tells me his server still uses Windows though...

    1. Re:/.ed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean you actually tried to RTFA?

    2. Re:/.ed by southpolesammy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, it looks like Linux....

      Netcraft output
      ---------------
      Linux Apache 29-Feb-2004 69.5.25.92 FUTUREQUEST INC

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      Rule #1 -- Politics always trumps technology.
    3. Re:/.ed by Kethinov · · Score: 2, Interesting
      --
      You're right, I wouldn't steal a car. But if it were possible, I sure as hell would download one!
  3. Dear Windows... by bobbis.u · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, I bet he doesn't have a real girlfriend to write the letter to! If he does, he probably spends more time with his OS (or should that be SO?!)

    1. Re: Dear Windows... by MooseByte · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Well, I bet he doesn't have a real girlfriend to write the letter to!"

      And future dating prospects are equally bleak when women find out he ended the affair to pursue his newfound love and infatuation with a slightly oily flightless bird that smells of herring.

      (They sure are cuddly at night though...)

    2. Re:Dear Windows... by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 2, Funny

      You dont need a girlfriend to write/get letters to/from one!

      http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&cate gory=20118&item=3750545897&rd=1

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      "When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back!" -- Cave Johnson
    3. Re:Dear Windows... by yamla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You allow Microsoft to disclaim almost all accountability when you accept the EULA.

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      Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
    4. Re:Dear Windows... by IANAAC · · Score: 5, Funny

      Read the prenuptual agreement. You won't be so happy.

    5. Re:Dear Windows... by maximilln · · Score: 2, Insightful

      at least I know that there is some accountability in your design

      What delusion negates the EULA? Windows has no accountability.

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      +++ATHZ 99:5:80
    6. Re:Dear Windows... by rco3 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "when everyone I exchange files with uses Windows, I need to use Windows, too"

      This is demonstrably untrue. Several Windows computers in my office print through my Samba shares. I exchange Word and OpenOffice files with people running Windows, OSX, and Linux daily.

      Were you using Office on OSX, those files would interchange easily between OSX and Windows. Similarly, were you using OpenOffice, you could exchange files between Windows, OSX, Linux, xBSD, Solaris, etc. Photoshop files created on a Mac open just fine on a Windows PC. Jpegs are jpegs, ditto pngs, GIFs, etc. PDF works great in the rest of the computing world.

      If the boss says "Use Windows," you use Windows. Reason goes out the [ahem] window. But you, personally, present reasons which simply aren't correct.

      Am I saying you should use Linux? No. What I'm saying is that all the reasons you keep reciting why you CAN'T are wrong.

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      Ce n'est pas un vrai mouvement de robot!
    7. Re:Dear Windows... by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2, Insightful


      You're implying that I'm not being honest. Care to explain where and why?

      I'm not the original poster, but I'd say it's where you claimed that Foo is better when its the events surrounding Foo that are better. It's like claiming that one railroad gauge is "better" than another just because it happens to be the one most of the railroad tracks were built for, when there is nothing inherently better about it. It's just the choice that causes the least hassle. It's like you've never heard of the idea of an "arbitrary decision". Sometimes everyone benefits by everyone picking the same arbitrary decision, even when there is nothing whatsoever that is better about that decision other than the fact that it's the same decision other people are making.

      If we are making up a new secret code to use with telegraphs, and there are two other people in our club who have already started saying that "1 beep = yes, 2 beeps = no", then it would be advantageous for us to also pick the same rule instead of going the other way around. But even so it would still be incredibly dishonest to say that "1 beep for yes is a better system than 2 beeps for yes". It's not better. It's just a consistent arbitrary choice - just like the way the industry has standardized on Windows.

      --

      Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.

  4. SC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    SC == SpaceCanary? I think so.

    You found your own letter pretty funny? Thanks for sharing.

    1. Re:SC? by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 4, Funny

      That was my first thought. Shameless.

      In other news... ...my mom thinks I'm handsome. ...I think I'm hilarious. ...when I drink, I become a better singer.

    2. Re:SC? by No+Tears+In+The+End · · Score: 5, Funny

      In other news... ...my mom thinks I'm handsome.

      If she thinks YOU'RE handsome, she'll definately let me hit it. What's her number?

      NTITE

      --

      -You can cry, but you'll still die. There'll be no tears in the end.
  5. Paperclip response by suso · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey (*dink* *dink*), it looks like you're trying to write a letter.......

    1. Re:Paperclip response by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Clippy: "It looks like you're trying to write a hate letter. Please select from one or more of the following hate styles:"
      [X] Nazi
      [_] Bagdad Bob
      [X] SCO Lawyer
      [_] Lisp geek forced to use Java at work
      [_] Satan

  6. goodbye server by wattersa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Inaccessible, oh well. Is it on IIS? ;-)

    The idea reminds of Microsoft Wife, a joke that made the rounds years ago.

    1. Re:goodbye server by rpbailey1642 · · Score: 4, Funny
      [...]Microsoft Wife[...]

      Well, at least you know that you won't have to wait until your birthday for her to go down on you.

  7. Dear Server, by wikdwarlock · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sorry to have left files on you that were posted to /. We had some great times, you and I... sharing files w/ people all around the globe. I noticed that you started to glow red and smoke, but thought this was just a signal of your burning passion for me. Alas, I can now see that the pressure of servicing so many other people has taken its toll on you and you've succumbed. I'm sorry to see you go. Sincerely, Joe User P.S. You will receive a bill for the burnt hole in my carpet.

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    "I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer." -Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear
  8. Someone needs to by AbbyNormal · · Score: 5, Funny

    write an Obituary for this guy's webserver.

    "IT was a spunky server, full of life and function, however the Good Lord deemed it necessary to remove this server from this world with an act of Slashdot".

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    Sig it.
  9. Dear webserver by putch · · Score: 5, Funny

    see you in hell.

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    just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand!
  10. Wow... by JoeLinux · · Score: 5, Funny

    A dear John letter to an OS. Reminds me of when I had my last Pascal class on a VMS/VAX system:

    Dear VMS:
    You have tortured my life for the last time. I hate you with a pure and perfect hatred. Your renaming of my files is maddening. Your syntax is arcane and pointless. I would prefer attempting to cluster 500 Windows ME systems.

    It's not me, it's definitely you.

    1. Re:Wow... by Procrastin8er · · Score: 2, Funny

      Can you give your ex my number? We went steady for quite a while many years back, until I was lead astray by a sexy girl named Windows. Since then I have discovered that, despite her good looks, Windows is unstable and unreliable and pretty much a bitch. I long for the steady, reliable VMS I took to the prom. my number is 1-800-VAX-/VMS

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      Slashdot - Where the slash is most definitely to the left.
    2. Re:Wow... by bourne_id · · Score: 5, Funny

      Quote: I would prefer attempting to cluster 500 Windows ME systems.

      I tried to visualize attempting such a feat. My brain rejected the idea totally, much like a coredump. I now have a headache for my heresy...

      JMD

      --
      When all else fails, feel free to panic.
    3. Re:Wow... by j3110 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The only thing I miss from VMS was the versioning filesystem that wasn't case sensitive. I use Linux now, and get angry every time I have to hit the shift key. Anyone storing xxx.jpg in the same directory with XXX.jpg needs to be shot. No one uses case sensitivity, because it's stupid. I also miss the versioning. I could just open xxx.jpg;2 for an older version. Now you pretty much need CVS and a decent CVS browser to get anything close to that kind of functionality.

      Why is there not one single case-insensitive filesystem for Linux? (FAT doesn't count, it's not a filesystem so much as a waste bin.)

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      Karma Clown
    4. Re:Wow... by AJWM · · Score: 2, Funny
      Anyone storing xxx.jpg in the same directory with XXX.jpg needs to be shot. No one uses case sensitivity, because it's stupid.


      Oh, hey, no. It's great for disguising my pr0n collection:

      bar:~/pr0n $ ls
      XXX.JPG XXx.JPG XxX.JPG Xxx.JPG xXX.JPG xXx.JPG xxX.JPG xxx.JPG
      XXX.JPg XXx.JPg XxX.JPg Xxx.JPg xXX.JPg xXx.JPg xxX.JPg xxx.JPg
      XXX.JpG XXx.JpG XxX.JpG Xxx.JpG xXX.JpG xXx.JpG xxX.JpG xxx.JpG
      XXX.Jpg XXx.Jpg XxX.Jpg Xxx.Jpg xXX.Jpg xXx.Jpg xxX.Jpg xxx.Jpg
      XXX.jPG XXx.jPG XxX.jPG Xxx.jPG xXX.jPG xXx.jPG xxX.jPG xxx.jPG
      XXX.jPg XXx.jPg XxX.jPg Xxx.jPg xXX.jPg xXx.jPg xxX.jPg xxx.jPg
      XXX.jpG XXx.jpG XxX.jpG Xxx.jpG xXX.jpG xXx.jpG xxX.jpG xxx.jpG
      XXX.jpg XXx.jpg XxX.jpg Xxx.jpg xXX.jpg xXx.jpg xxX.jpg xxx.jpg
      bar:~/pr0n $
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      -- Alastair
    5. Re:Wow... by kgbspy · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, he just cut and pasted the ls of his pr0n dir ;)

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  11. Dear Slashdot... by kkovach · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ahhhhhh! I'm on fire! Ahhhhhhh!

    - Web Server

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    The less confident you are, the more serious you have to act.
    1. Re:Dear Slashdot... by bhsx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your mod should go up to eleven. I almost ruined another monitor with Coke(TM).

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      put the what in the where?
  12. Article Text by LanMan04 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dear Microsoft Windows,

    In retrospect, this letter should be of no surprise to you. For years now I have stood by you despite the terrible things people have said. We have always managed to work through our serious problems but too many things have been swept under the table. I do not think I can stand (idly) by you any longer.

    What's that? No, another service pack will not help, not this time. I remember when we met, a warm April day, in 1992. For years I had been hearing about you, about your graphical user interface, innovations, and problems in the courtroom... I had seen you here and there, but it was not until that fateful day, April 6, that our relationship became serious. Though you had changed with the times, never like this. I was almost knocked off my feet when I first saw you. Right then I knew it, you had to be mine. Who else could offer me what you could? I wanted, no, I needed, your TrueType font support, your video playback capability, your color screen savers...

    As time progressed so did my needs. Our affair took its next serious step on August 24, 1995. At the time I thought our happiness would never end. You brought me places I never thought possible. How could I refuse your Plug-and-Play cabability or your TCP/IP stack? I mean, you gave up your best friend, DOS, so our relationship could progress unhindered. It hurts me to look back at us, two starry-eyed lovers wanting nothing more than each other's company.

    Then it almost all came tumbling down. June 25, 1998. What were you thinking? Were you thinking at all? You changed, like in 1995, but not like I thought you would. Still clinging to your DOS kernel, like a small, lost child clutching its teddy bear. Where was the OS I had learned to love? You feebly proffered USB support, DVD playback, and a Quick Launch toolbar, but you were beginning to mix with a bad crowd. With that invasive Internet Explorer. I knew about what happened... You let him access your Explorer. I thought that was something special between us.

    Though we had a bit of a falling out afterwards, my love was rekindled after February 17th, 2000. You were once again new- Professional- just like I thought you could one day be. I knew you were once again stable, not like back in 1998, and that you were the only OS for me. I remembered what had drawn me you you in the first place- ease of use, speed, your stunning looks, your compatibility. I remember saying, "I hope things never change because I love you the way you are."

    I thought that what we had meant something- your transformation in 2000 seemed to cement that. I know now that I was wrong. By Sept 17 you tried to change for the Millennium. I saw right through you- trying to settle down and fit in better with the 'home-user'. Did you think I would love you more because of a few cosmetic changes? I was not impressed with the full-color icons, fancy skins, or your new media player. I thought what we had was deeper than that. Luckily you gave me a choicer, I did not have to choose the new you, the old version would be fine. I know you meant well but you just shouldn't have done that, especially with the '1998' episode so fresh in my mind.

    By October 25, 2001 more changes had come. Everyone told be how great the new you would be. I got so tired of hearing about how up to date, easy to work with, and slick looking you had become. That was all I could take. You changed so much that I didn't even know you any more. I really dug some of your new features but the old you, the you from 2000, could have done all this. So why did you have to change at all? I didn't want to upgrade you or make you into something you were not.

    Well, like I wrote, I have reached my limit. Its going to take more than an automatic update to fix our relationship. I just don't feel like I know you anymore. For example, do you know what I found on the computer a few days ago? Spyware! I wonder who let that in...

    Windows, I know you will try to

    --
    With the first link, the chain is forged.
    1. Re:Article Text by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 5, Funny
      I think he's wasting his time.

      Windows attention span isn't that long.

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      No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism. - Winston Churchill
    2. Re:Article Text by mreed911 · · Score: 5, Funny

      PS - Please don't be blue. And I'll be screening your calls...

      PPS - Yes, SP2 *does* make you look fat.

    3. Re:Article Text by bluFox · · Score: 5, Funny
      author:[q]You let him access your Explorer. I thought that was something special between us.[/q]

      m$w:hey but then by that time you were forcing me into two somes with that naughty grub & linux !! That was bad, really really bad,..
      how could i ever forgive u ??

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      ~561
    4. Re:Article Text by FirstTimeCaller · · Score: 4, Funny

      As time progressed so did my needs. Our affair took its next serious step on August 24, 1995.

      I think I need a shower...

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      Wanted: witty unique signature. Must be willing to relocate.
    5. Re:Article Text by Deusy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dear Linux,

      In retrospect, this letter will be of complete surprise to you. For years I have stood by you, no matter how needy you have been. The time required has destroyed my once happy, fun filled life. I used to have friends, but you took them all away. You're just too high maintainence.

      We tried many different fashions to see if you'd change... from hats to french laungerie. But you were always the same, time consuming woman who wouldn't let me live my life. And boy are you fucking ugly. I've had to learn the magical mysterious of Hollywood make-up to make you look good in the past, although recently you've gotten a bit better at looking sexy without days of my undivided attention.

      There were good times. You were reliable, always around, always available. You were open and honest, and I could see into the very depths of your soul. But you were antisocial, getting anything to work with you was a chore and I've just about had enough of fighting with configuration files to get the most basic peripherals to work with you.

      Perhaps, when you've become more friendly, and you work just as well in your various styles, we can be one again.

      For now I'm off to that flashy babe Windows. She might be an expensive, unreliable whore, but she looks stunning and good in bed. (Can you go to bed with a computer?) Though I'll be back when she breaks my heart.

      (I would go with that super model MacOS X but she's out of my league - my wallet is only 'so' fat.)

      Fuck it. All the effort has to be worth something. I'll stick it out to see if, as they say year on year, this will be the year of the Linux desktop... the year it becomes easy. They have been saying it since 1997 but they can't be eternally wrong... can they?

      Yours probably forever due to cash shortage,
      C.

      --

      Free Gamer - Free games list and commentary

    6. Re:Article Text by garyisabusyguy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ah Windows,
      How can I forget the first time that I saw you, in 1988, immature and overdressed like a 16 year old street-walker. The sparkle was eye-catching, but I knew that there was not enought maturity to keep me interested.

      It was years later before I had you thrust apon me again. An old friend of mine needed to use my 386sx to edit a Word document on, so he loaded up a mountain of diskettes and left you behind.
      Sure, it was fun at first with Solataire and, uh, solataire... But you got in the way and I was soon tired of running around between you, AutoCAD and my video games support.

      Next thing I knew, there you were in my workplace, pushing my old favorites like wordperfect and lotus around like the cheap little strumpet you are. Fortunately, I was able to take solace in my Motif desktop and RISC processors, intoxicated by their maturity and power.

      Of course, I started passing you off on other, less knowledgable computer users. I must have pimped you out thousands of times, "Oh sure, just USE windows" for this or that. There was even that "Coming of age" thing for my son when I let him have his way with you. What was it, a month, before you had overun his data with viruses...

      So now you try and pass yourself off as mature and worldly, no better game around huh? I hate to let you know it, but there's a pretty hot kid on the block, willing to do most anything (for free too), so why don't you just take a walk, windows.

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      Wherever You Go, There You Are
    7. Re:Article Text by Le+Marteau · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Even though it is cool that you provided the article after it got slashdotted, there is no reason why your karma (as unimportant as it is) should be upped for doing so.

      Your post is a great example of what is wrong with the moderation system. People treat mod points as PERSONAL rewards and punishments. Mod points should more properly be viewed as rewards and punishments FOR THE POST.

      The post WAS informative. The site was dotted, and I wanted to read it. Thankfully, someone did.

      True, it would have been more elegant if the poster had gone AC for it, but the fact that the guy may have been a whore in no way makes the post any less 'informative'.

      But you, and others, will go ahead and use points to 'punish' people for being dicks. Go ahead, and be my guest. I, on the other hand, will use mod points as I belive they are intended: to allow users to separate the wheat from the chaff, should they so choose.

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      Mod down people who tell people how to mod in their sigs
    8. Re:Article Text by anubi · · Score: 2, Insightful
      No, you are not.

      I still use it. Daily. For schematic capture, PCB layout, and cross-assembler/DSP C/C++ stuff.

      You see, I understand the file formats on these old files. And I know exactly how the programs work. And these programs were coded in a day where the programs would run on just about any machine you dropped them in. ( Mine require 386-16SX or higher, and are plenty fast on the minimal machine, albeit they now all are running in Pentiums for so much overkill it ain't funny.)

      The big draw for me is that I still have access to any drawing I have ever done, or anyone else in my group does. The formats don't change every couple of years and require me to constantly upgrade to something that works differently, along with the probability I screw up because I didn't catch some new "feature" properly.

      I chose the old programs wisely almost 20 years ago. They all have user definable libraries and do not have any "permission codes" or dongles required. They will fit on a floppy, and run on just about anything I can boot up in DOS.

      The only objection some may have is that the companies who generated these tools have been out of business now for ten years. So support is moot. But from my point of view, this software was coded solid as a hammer. I don't need support for the hammer. This software was coded solid enough it doesn't need support. It just does what its supposed to.. nothing more, nothing less.

      Actually, I see my using abandonware as a benefit, as there is no-one riding my back to enforce DRM or threaten me with lawyers if I take it on myself to open up the code if needed to customize it more to my liking.

      Yes, I know the later systems have all sorts of features, but I don't really think those new features save me as much effort. I see them like "insurance policies" sold for its "peace-of-mind" value, but said value vanishes when the claim is denied for the exclusions in small print.

      Yes, they tell me I can simulate in SPICE. And I do. But you know, I don't trust it yet. Spice models ideal components. Spice will often tell me something will work and lead me into false "peace of mind", when in reality small component variations lead me to a disaster when the product hits the consumer. Nah, I want a proto for me to run my hands all over when its running so I can introduce so many stray leakage paths and variances that just about anything that can fail will. (I exempt most SMPS power converters from this procedure).

      I had to leave a previous employer over this issue. But then I have seen them spend my salary dozens of times over trying to keep their legacy filebases accessible. I know my computational infrastructures are sound and will run the rest of my biological lifetime easily.

      Do I have a place for Windows? Yes. But its not for things I think I may need years from now. It to me is a pretty gizmo, quite easy to use, but its nothing I want to build a foundation on. But its damm nice for things where its very important to look good, but not important that it last. Like those "cardboard belts" that often come with a suit. Yes, they may look really good when dressing up for a job interview, but don't count on it holding your britches up for a year. Two or three days is about par for the course, but if it looks pretty enough to impress the suit guy, good enough. (My favorite belt is well used, not all that attractive, but quite functional).

      When I really have important stuff, its very important to me to know how to single-handedly recover from anything without losing damn near a quarter-century of work.

      I really hate to sign binding legal documents without understanding what I am agreeing to... likewise I really hate to use software I don't know exactly what its doing... especially if that software in question already has a history of being, as the article related to, a "cheating" lover who carries on trysts on the side. Rich men can afford that kind of thing, but frankly money is just too hard for me to come by to keep paying over and over again for me to just hold position.

      Long Live DOS!

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    9. Re:Article Text by shades66 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear C,
      I am sorry to hear of the difficulties understanding my ways. I only offered you so many options so that I could try and work the way you wanted me to. Not everyone understands my flexibility.

      I wish you success with your new babe called Windows. I understand that she is very strict and will only let you perform the functions that she wants you to perform. I also hear that she is very possesive and will try and stop you talking to others not like her and if you do she will show you her nasty blue side. Not wanting to slag her off I should warn you that she has a habbit of letting others use her, command her to do things you may not like, like giving out your credit card details, using the CPU cycle you paid for to send hundreds of emails to strangers and to allow others to perform criminal acts.

      So this is the end. Maybe one day you will come back and enjoy my freedoms.

      Love,
      Linux

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  13. Why shouldn't it sound like a breakup letter? by neuro.slug · · Score: 5, Funny

    After all, using Windows is like being with someone who:

    - Only lets you do things with her approval
    - Requires money once in a while to 'upgrade' her features
    - Doesn't allow you to even think about seeing anyone else besides her

    And to top it all off, you end up contracting a dozen or so STDs even though she says that she always uses protection.

    1. Re:Why shouldn't it sound like a breakup letter? by mlylecarlin · · Score: 2, Funny

      But hey... at least she's easy. mlylecarlin

  14. Wait, lemme guess... by njfuzzy · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Slashdotted before the first comment again?

    Here's a crazy idea. Maybe Slashdot itself needs a caching system. If linking to an article, the default could be to make a cache and link to that.

    I know everyone is proud of the Slashdot effect, but shouldn't it be more of an embarrassment than a point of pride?

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    1. Re:Wait, lemme guess... by Talian · · Score: 2, Informative
  15. Re:Dear Microsoft Windows by Tribbin · · Score: 2, Funny

    You spoofing bastard!

    Will the real CmdrTaco please that up?

    Mr. Torvalds

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  16. Right on! by tgd · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's a bit strange, but finally more people are starting to see the light and moving away from Windows.

    Yeah, because everything you see written on the Internet can be extrapolated into assumptions about the general population.

    And you thought goatse was just one freaky guy...

  17. So... by tunabomber · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was Windows cheating on him and allowing some script kiddie to access its private parts or something?

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    1. Re:So... by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, you can summarize as follows:

      "It's not you.. It's me... I'm gay, and I've been hiding it too long. Time to buy a Mac."

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  18. Dear Windows... by scowling · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You let me run the games I want to play, the industry-standard word processing and publishing software I need to use in my job, and haven't crashed on me in months. While your security is questionable, at least I know that there is some accountability in your design.

    I'll be home by 5.

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  19. Reminds me... by SimianOverlord · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Of a readers letter I really enjoyed from The Register UK IT mag. It was an answer to an article about Microsoft saying basically they get too much stick. Managed to track it down via Google: Enjoy, if it's your thing.

    ..

    "Microsoft simply makes some fairly mediocre software and charges a lot for it."

    No.

    Microsoft deliberately designs software that is inherently insecure and refuses to fix the fundamental design flaws no matter how bad the outcome is.

    When Microsoft merged IE and the desktop, almost ten years ago now, I immediately acted to get IE and Outlook banned at work. Why? Because using the same APIs to operate on trusted (local) and untrusted (email, internet) objects makes every program that uses those APIs responsible for determining, independently, whether an object is trusted or not.

    I and every security administrator I knew wrote Microsoft telling them this was a horrible idea. Nothing. They ignored the security community and went on to actually build IE in to the next release of Windows so you couldn't leave it out, as part of their game-plan to try and outflank the DoJ.

    I didn't know what the result would be, but I knew it would be bad. I did what I could to discourage our users from running IE and Outlook, and waited.

    We didn't have long to wait.

    When the Melissa virus showed up, I thought, "OK, this should let them know they've got a problem. They'll pull out IE and settle, and we'll be able to secure Windows again". Boy, was I naive.

    Here we are, it's 2004 instead of 1996, and there are still weekly exploits found in IE, Outlook, Windows Media Player, programs that use the MSHTML control. Get rid of that and you'd cut the virus problem by a factor of 10 or 100. 90-99% of the time spent fighting and cleaning up after viruses should be billed directly to Redmond, and because they did it to illegally avoid complying with the agreement they had with the DoJ, there should be criminal charges on top of that.

    Microsoft doesn't merely charge a lot for mediocre software, they deliberately and knowingly force people to chew up lifetimes fighting a problem that should not exist, and they do it to win a little extra market share for a secondary product that they don't even charge money for.

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    1. Re:Reminds me... by oGMo · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Microsoft deliberately designs software that is inherently insecure and refuses to fix the fundamental design flaws no matter how bad the outcome is.
      Hanlon's Razor:
      Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained
      by stupidity.

      Personally I think Microsoft as a whole is just so incompetant they simply can't pull it off. Business policies, marketting, etc. all come together to make certain things more important than others, and a mindset of "just getting things done" versus "doing things right from the start" roll into the mediocre Microsoft mess we see today.

      Unfortunately for them, to fix this, they can't just change a few lines of code. It requires a complete overhaul of the entire corporate culture in all respects. Doing that with a company the size of Microsoft would be pretty tough, especially with a mindset that tells them such things are unneccessary!

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    2. Re:Reminds me... by mkro · · Score: 4, Interesting
      When Microsoft merged IE and the desktop, almost ten years ago now, I immediately acted to get IE and Outlook banned at work. Why? Because using the same APIs to operate on trusted (local) and untrusted (email, internet) objects makes every program that uses those APIs responsible for determining, independently, whether an object is trusted or not.
      Isn't this the exact same thing KDE is going through now? Konqueror is a file- and webbrowser, and functions within each KDE program can be accessed using DCOP. E.g. Kopete reports an IM contact's online presence to KAdressbook, right-click a file in Konqueror and you can send it to everyone present in Kopete, etc, etc. Do anyone know if the KDE developers has taken special considerations to avoid doing the same mistakes MS did?
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    3. Re:Reminds me... by zerojoker · · Score: 3, Funny

      of a nice joke about this issue in a PC Mag at that time:

      McD Guy: A Big Mac and a Coke. That's 6,99
      Bill G: I have just ordered a Big Mac
      McD Guy: The Coke belongs to this. It's part of the whole package
      Bill G: What? I won't pay the Coke!
      McD Guy: You don't need to. The Coke is free!
      Bill G: But the Big Mac alone was 3,99 before this?
      McD Guy: Thats right, but the Big Mac has new features now. It has a Coke included!
      Bill G: I have just drunk a Coke. I don't need another!
      McD Guy: Then you won't have a Big Mac!
      Bill G: Ok, I'll pay 3,99 and won't take the Coke!
      McD Guy: You can't separate parts of the whole package! Big Mac and Coke are integrated seamlessly!
      Bill G: That's bullshit! Big Mac and Coke are two independent things!
      McD Guy: Let me show you something! (dips the Big Mac in the Coke)
      Bill G: What's that suppose to mean?
      McD Guy: That's in the interest of our customers! That's how we can guarantee the same taste in all of our products!

    4. Re:Reminds me... by J.+T.+MacLeod · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There is *potential* for great security risks when you do something like this, but there are different ways to do it, some more secure than others (sandboxing, for example).

      The KDE developers have chosen a much better security model for integration. Microsoft did, in fact, implement some basic security measures, but they just left holes a mile wide, that's all.

  20. Re:Well by yagu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    More people are moving away? More people are moving away than towards Linux? More people are moving away from Linux than are moving away from Windows? More people are moving away from Linux than moving towards Windows? Sheesh. Your "thesis" needs work. You've basically stated nothing.

    That said, should I see a Dear Tux letter somewhere I'll post it on /..

  21. Re:first +1 post? by das_katz_socrates · · Score: 4, Funny

    If I had visual studio and the .Net framework on Mao OS X, I'd throw away all of my other computers.

    Mao OS was that the one the chinese were developing?

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  22. Co-dependency... by the_rajah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm trying hard to break the relatioship off, but here at work there are those pesky old DOS programs that I still need to cross-assemble 8085 code for legacy hardware that still has useable life in it and old DOS based schematic programs that generated the drawings for that hardware back in the 80's. Oh and then there's the in-circuit emulators from the 80's that run with DOS interfaces. {{sigh}} At least I can go home at night to my own computer that runs SeSE 9.1, my new true-love. Shhh, don't say anything to my office Windows machine, though. It hasn't yet figured out that it's been dual booted.

    The author is a lucky guy that he was able to get out of that abusive relationship.

    "Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain

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    1. Re:Co-dependency... by yamla · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Have you looked at dosbox or dosemu under Linux? I've had better luck with them than trying to run DOS programs in more recent versions of Windows. YMMV, of course.

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  23. Can't get to site by UrgleHoth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seems to be /.ed

    But I'm making the change at home. I have a family, so I have to consider non-geek computer needs. I've ordered the imac G5.

    Now, for the mac users out there, what would you use in place of virtualpc?

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    1. Re:Can't get to site by kylector · · Score: 2, Informative

      Check out OmniGraffle from the OmniGroup. If you're looking for good Visio compatibility you'll probably want the pro version. I have the "regular" version (came with my PowerMac G5) and I think it's a great program.

    2. Re:Can't get to site by justMichael · · Score: 2, Informative

      If all you want is a Visio like app and you don't need to share it with Visio, have a look at OmniGraffle.

      If you must use Visio I would suggest putting your Windows box in a closet someplace, only fire it up when you need it and use Remote Desktop to connect.

      I use both methods only because VPC is easier with multiple OS installs and when I'm on the road I can still test. VPC is a dog, Remote Desktop is actually not bad if you don't mind having the extra box around.

  24. Dear Slashdot by NoInfo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In retrospect, this letter should be of no surprise to you. For years now I have stood by you despite the terrible things you have said about Microsoft. We have always managed to work through our serious problems but too many things have been swept under the table. I do not think I can stand (idly) by you any longer.

    What's that? No, another DOOM3 review will not help, not this time.

    I remember when we met, a warm April day, in 1999. For years I had been hearing about you, about your terrible green HTML of death, Open Source advocation, poor social skills, web server obliteration, and problems raising money... I had seen you here and there, but it was not until that fateful day, April 6, that our relationship became serious. I was almost knocked off my feet when I first saw you. Right then I knew it, you had to be mine. Who else could offer me what you could? I wanted, no, I needed, your Cowboy Neal polls, your Insightful comments, your great techno music...

    As time progressed so did my needs. Our affair took its next serious step on August 24, 2001. At the time I thought our happiness would never end. You brought me places I never thought possible. How could I refuse your IOCCC results or your Napster articles? I mean, you gave up your best friend, financial independence, so our relationship could progress unhindered with OSDN. It hurts me to look back at us, two starry-eyed lovers wanting nothing more than each other's first posts.

    Well, like I wrote, I have reached my limit. Its going to take more than mod points to fix our relationship. I just don't feel like I know you anymore. For example, do you know what I found on the site a few days ago? A dupe! I wonder who let that in...

    Slashdot, I know you will try to change, but I have been hurt too many times. You should know that I have been seeing someone else for a few months now. She is fun, easy going, and will do something for me that you never even considered, oust the president.

    I don't know what else to say- we had a good run, but now its over. Pack up your Beowulf cluster, your SCO stories, hell, take slashcode if you have to. I am sure we'll see each other from time to time but I know one thing, I'll never again have to depend on you.

    Yours no longer,
    N I

  25. I'm sorry by numbware · · Score: 5, Funny

    Windows, I'm sorry about my affair with Linux. If it will make you happy... I wasn't root. You know I'm your only admin. What? Everyone you know is your admin? By default? What are you, some kind of whore?! This is over! (Stomps out of room crying).

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    I'm going to go create my own technology news site, with blackjack and hookers. You know what? Forget the news site.
  26. Damn, that was my first wife to a "T"... by the_rajah · · Score: 3, Funny

    except it only took one STD from her to call it quits.

    "Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain

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    "Do the Right Thing. It will gratify some people and astound the rest." - Mark Twain
  27. Spyware... by Ogrez · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For example, do you know what I found on the computer a few days ago? Spyware! I wonder who let that in...

    You did... surfing porn sites and clicking YES on every popup asking you if you wanted to install gain/gator/cometcursor/mysearch...

    You can blame IE, you can blame Microsoft... but in the end... the real admins know... BLAME THE USERS!!!

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    1. Re:Spyware... by Soko · · Score: 2, Funny

      No. I do not blame the luser.

      Any competent Systems Administrator knows that lusers lack any real clue what-so-ever, and therefore cannot be trusted with dangerous system level tools. If there is no Sysadmin that will be present, there should be no such tools within a 5 mile radius of any given luser.

      I blame Microsoft for providing a toolkit that makes my lusers able to mess up my systems before I can LART them dead in thier tracks.

      Oh, fsck, another one looking to see what this JPEG exploit code looks like. *Clickety-Click*

      Soko

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      "Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm." - Anonymous
  28. People *are* moving away from Windows. . . by Sialagogue · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just last week I read an article where Microsoft's consumer OS market share has been continually dropping -- down from from a 6 year high of 108 percent to 105 percent just last quarter.

    The Microsoft rep that lives under the sink in my kitchen was quick to strike back, however, telling me that the drop came only as a result of survey companies no longer screening for "dirtbag hippies and Communists."

    I'm hopeful.

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  29. linuxxx by dotslasher_sri · · Score: 2, Funny

    She is fun, easy going, and will do something for me that you never even considered, share her source code.

    hmm so afterall linux is a she :p

  30. Paperclip response XP by Anonymous+Custard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey (*dink* *dink*), it looks like you're trying to write a letter....... [Help me] [No thanks]

    (click "No thanks")

    Okay, you don't want my help! Should I close?

    (click "yes")

    Okay, I'll close. Bye! Shall I do a little dance as I go?

    (click "Hell, no")

    Come on, I love dancing! Pleeease?

    (click "Do you want to find out how many times you can bend a paper clip out of shape before it snaps?")

    Hmm, you make a persuasive argument. I think I'll just close now.

  31. Moving to Apple ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Check out the amazon computer top sellers - 8 out of the top 10 are Macs. I was pretty surprised to see this a few days ago, and it's been like this since then. The new iMac is a hit, and that's no surprise - look at what the x86 competition is offering - an iMac look alike, priced about the same. Seems nice from this angle, but then look at it from the side. Bulk.

  32. Ugh by mlylecarlin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dear Linus, Bob Young, Michael Cowpland, Patrick Volkerding (god it's like kissinger said about europe, I don't know who else to add)... *et all*,

    DVD ripping is too hard under linux. Make me some useable software and I will **** you instead of ****ing Bill Gates.

    Thank you,
    mlylecarlin

    1. Re:Ugh by iantri · · Score: 2, Informative
      Voila.

      dvd::rip

  33. It's a Marriage of convenience anyways... by bADlOGIN · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets face it. Most people stick with Windows because it's there and it takes effort to get something better. Get a major PC manufacturer to start shipping some dual boot systems and see how well it fares...

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  34. This is stupid... by phaetonic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I work with UNIX full-time at work, specifically Solaris and HP-UX. I have been "driven up the wall" by the various errors Solaris and HP-UX have caused me, which includes not sleeping all night to fix a problem that I felt was a UNIX-only issue. I've also had problems with Windows, but I usually delegate the task of fixing Windows boxes to someone else. My poiint is every OS when used extensively can and will give you some pain. Sometimes I feel like the whole Windows vs. Linux thing is like the republicans versus the democrats.

    Just a rant with karma to burn..

    1. Re:This is stupid... by Ogun · · Score: 3, Funny
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    2. Re:This is stupid... by clamatius · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >Sometimes I feel like the whole Windows vs. Linux thing is like the republicans versus the democrats.

      I agree completely. One of them is obviously more evil than the other, but for some reason a whole lot of people don't seem to notice. :)

    3. Re:This is stupid... by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't know, I wouldn't really consider the Democrates "Obviously more evial" than the republicans, I mean they are very close and both cross the line back and forth on pretty much equal evilness.

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  35. my next computer will be a mac by m_dob · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yup, after 10 years of puppy-like devotion to Microsoft, I've decided that Macs live up to their promises so much better than Windows PCs do. They have a modern, powerful operating system. I just don't get the same feeling using PCs.

    I have always looked out for quality - using Firefox at the moment, and it's come to the point where the Mac is the only quality package out there. I don't want to have to wait 3 years for another buggy OS.

    Sorry Microsoft. We had some good times.

  36. Re:So what's new? by cliveholloway · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone could have used a spell checker (Skiron exempt).

    cLive ;-)

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  37. got mirror? by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Server,

    Stop buckling under slashdot's load, you vacuum-tubed dented cow-boxed surplus wimp! I cannot read the damned link.

    Sincerely,
    Pissed slashdot user

  38. My girlfriends are like Linux.... by DogDude · · Score: 3, Funny
    • Very high maintenance
    • Compicated
    • Very pretty, very cool
    • Expensive
    • You need a non-existent user manual just to get basic things done
    • Ultimately, not worth the trouble.
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    1. Re:My girlfriends are like Linux.... by misleb · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Is Linux very pretty? Not unless you limit yourself to a small subset of applications that comply with your desktop environment.

      Windows is what I would call high maintainance... gotta keep the virus scanner, firewall, and spyware detection tools up to date. Gotta do periodic manual scans to make sure everything is clean. Reinstall periodically when things get clogged up. That is high maintainance.

      How is Linux expensive?

      The only way Linux is like the girlfriend I think you are describing is that it is complicated, needs manual to get basic things done, and perhaps not worth the trouble. I'm not sure your analogy works.

      -matthew

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    2. Re:My girlfriends are like Linux.... by fitten · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, my Windows boxes take about the same amount of maintenance as my Linux boxes. I run a firewall to protect them all and I keep them all up-to-date on patches. I've been connected via broadband now for 5 years and have had ZERO virii or worms on any of my machines. However, I *did* have my Linux box rooted once when I was using it as the firewall. I now have a dedicated firewall device.

    3. Re:My girlfriends are like Linux.... by secolactico · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My girlfriends are like Linux...

      What, all of them?

      Here's an idea, try monogamy, then if you feel like multitasking, upgrade back to full blown polygamy.

      Now, I'll be the first to admin that I'm no Casanova, but in my experience, women want pretty much the same things men do. The only difference, is they are more subtle.

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  39. Re:Well by yagu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Funny.

    I studied over the weekend, so I'm ready for my test.

    Yes, a statement of fact does not and never will consist of a thesis. But the OP IMO isn't stating any fact. It seems to be a non sequitur since it doesn't qualify (let alone quantify). More people are moving away from linux doesn't sound like a fact to me -- it's too indefinite.

    Gotta go, gotta get ready for my PSAT.

  40. finally more people are starting to see the light? by Spydr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    i don't think it's really a matter of people finally getting enough of windows... it's more like people finally have other viable options.

    i wouldn't have touched a mac even 2 years ago, but these days they are pretty damn slick.

    linux is also just getting to the point where 'normal' users can use it withough being complete overwhelmed (or even underwhelmed in some cases).

    good riddance, windows.

  41. Reply to SC by dspasovski · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yours no longer,
    S C


    Dear S C,

    I didn't give a fuck about you anyway -- already took all your money AND made you look like an idiot - what woman can possibly want more?

    Sincerely,
    Ms. Windows

    1. Re:Reply to SC by witte · · Score: 3, Funny



      "Oh, by the way... I faked all my blue screens !"

  42. Dear John... by dfj225 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think his webserver just broke up with him :(

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  43. Re:Drivers are why I stay with Windows by Spetiam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...then how could he continue to get around after breaking up with his GF?

    Good point. I have yet to use a telephone modem while operating Linux. Other than the telephone modem, though, all my other hardware works great...except my scanner, but the Windows drivers and software are just as crappy.

    I'd have to say, though, the single most important feature that influenced me to make the switch to Linux is that I can obtain and use everything for free (while also avoiding unethical/criminal activity).

    If I had money to burn, I'd probably still be with Windows. Now that I've made the switch, though, I'm happy with Linux (SuSE 9.1 and trying out Ubuntu).

  44. Re:It's a Marriage of convenience anyways... by PriceIke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > Lets face it. Most people stick with Windows because it's there and it takes effort to get something better

    Sounds eerily like the reason most people stay in the relationship they're in.

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  45. Dear Slashdot... by sebby1234 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You say you are the news for nerds, yet consantly post old news about the useless Windows vs Linux debate. I am a nerd and don't undertand you no more. How about changing the topic and talking about interesting news for once?

  46. Dear /. by arose · · Score: 2, Funny

    Please stop poking me, the effect is irritating.

    Anonymous Webserver.

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  47. Re:Dear Linux... by ewhac · · Score: 5, Funny

    Isn't that just like a man? Inattentive, unappreciative, selfish. Gawd, what was I thinking when I went home with you?

    Do you have even the slightest idea what I do for you, tirelessly, flawlessly, every day? No. You spend more time doting on your car than me. You've never even looked in /etc, have you? Oh, that's right, "I shouldn't have to think about that."

    And to think you'd begrudge me ten measly hours. Do you have any idea what those ten hours will pay you back down the road? Don't you understand that we're trying to build a relationship here? And that relationships require time and commitment? But no, your eyes keep drifting over to that cheap, heavily-made-up harlot from Washington, and thinking to yourself, "Things would be so much easier and more fun with her." Yeah, for a little while. But then the problems would start, and multiply quickly after that. And you know something? The problems you'd have with her would turn out, fundamentally, to be the same problems you say you're having with me. I proved this to you; did you think I was lying? At least I'm being honest with you, and making you aware up-front of what you're getting into, and the work you'll need to do.

    I may be cheap, but I'm not easy, buster. If you want something meaningful, something lasting, I'll always be willing to give that to you. Hell, I'll even dress up like that floozy Washington chick if you want. But you'd better be ready to get off your kiester and put in some effort. You may think I'm trying to emasculate you or humiliate you, but what I'm really asking you to do is become an adult. Otherwise, you're just going to go from disappointment to disappointment, and never understand why things keep falling apart.

    I'll always be there for you,
    Linnie

  48. Re:first +1 post? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mao OS X is a variant of CommUnix with a modified BASH shell that features a more powerful version of wall, kill, and an uber non-verbose rm -rf

    It pretends to efficiently use shared memory but doesn't really do too well with it. It likes to limit forking and control the number of child processes spawned. It has superior compression technology putting a lot of data into a smaller space.

    The OS will chown anything you put into the system. It offers Mao's Guardian which blocks unwanted western propaganda from being accessed over the Internet. Oh, and they really don't think the concept of BZFlag is funny at all.

  49. I don't get it... by Skim123 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Forbidden

    You don't have permission to access /index.php on this server.
    This guy's not very eloquent.
    --

    I could not justify my existence if I were a turkey farmer. Would I terminate myself? Undoubtably, yes.

  50. Re: XP by choice by jdray · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ever use OS X? It seems to fit all your requirements.

    --
    The Spoon
    Updated 6/28/2011
  51. My letter.... by hopemafia · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dear Win XP Pro,

    I know I haven't been faithful when it comes to computing. I've done it with your mother Win 2k at school, your great aunt Win 98 at my sister's, two of the Linux sisters, Redhat and Mandrake in our own apartment, and even your sister Win XP Home on my lap(top) right in front of you. I know your father M$ is mad since I've never paid him (a visit). But you've always been my main OS, ever since I first met you. I've always taken good care of you, patched all your flaws, protected you from viruses, and kept you secure when we go out in the world (wide web). Please don't leave me. None of the other OS's have everything I need and want.

    -hopemafia

    --
    If God had had a computer it would have taken him 7 months to create the earth...if he even bothered to do it at all.
  52. Re: XP by choice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ever use OS X? It seems to fit all your requirements.

    He mentioned "games."

  53. Bob Dole doesn't know what your problem is by JohnTheFisherman · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bob Dole thinks you're a big internet meanie. I, Bob Dole, was talking to Bob Dole the other day, and Bob Dole agrees. Bob Dole sees nothing wrong with speaking of Bob Dole in the 3rd person, so why can't this SpaceCanary person do that too? Just IBDHO, of course.

    Love,
    Bob Dole :)

  54. Convenient excuse, but false by jcoder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Microsoft was consumed by a rush to market. They did not 'deliberately' design software that is insecure. What they did do, is design software with very little thought about security (or stability). Getting their product to market, addicting the public on their products, and increasing their stock was the number one priority. Unlike other companies (like Apple), they chose the path of getting as many copies of their software into the consumer market as fast as possible, instead of making really good and stable products. While many of us don't like what they did, they did 'succeed'. They have an incredibly dominant market and the corporate and consumer world is basically addicted to them.

    The bottom line is that they achieved their goals. They got rich. They have convinced the corporate and consumer world (in general) that there simply in no viable alternative to MS Office or the MS OS's.

    It's a dilemma... what would you do given the chance? Take the high road and only produce quality software that takes a lot of time and effort (and possible fail as a company)-- or grab the opportunity when you can to make a ton of cash and get huge?

    I don't like what MS did, but I understand it.

  55. Re: XP by choice by Planesdragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ever use OS X? It seems to fit all your requirements.

    You're missing the stated "runs on my computer" requirement.

  56. Re:Dear Anonymous Bastard, by Foofoobar · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wish you didn't work for Microsoft.

    --
    This is my sig. There are many like it but this one is mine.
  57. Windows reply by skywalker107 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dear User,

    I came to you with the intention of helping you do your job better and make life at home a little less boring.

    I gave you everything you wanted. I am trying to be everything to everyone with all of my features. There are people out there that use windows and are a little more sane when they install software and hardware.

    Remeber the scanner incedent. You bought that cheap 29 dollar model and it wouldn't work. You blamed me for that. But you didn't think about maybe it was the scanner.

    And the software you choose. Where should I begin. I gave you limited dos access for EMERGENCY use. You abused that until I finally said enough and took it away. I open up my DLL's so your precious software could get in and help with tasks i wasn't suited for but it was just ignored, and custom controls were written and guess who you blamed when it didn't work.

    I gave you plug and play and you wanted USB i gave you USB and you wanted Firewire. I brought the internet to your doorstep and you just couldn't get enough.

    I had patches available and you didn't install them. (Mental note: Self patch once moron leaves) and almost all of the time i didn't get sick until after the patch was avlaible.

    And then the event that broke this windows pain. Spyware!!!! You just couldn't stop looking at porn could you. You had to buy those viagra pills.

    Thanks for Nothing

    Windows XP PRO SP2

    --
    My new title at the office is "Vice-President of Everything Else"
  58. Re: XP by choice by rikkards · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tried to install it but it wouldn't run on an Athlon :(

    Anyways I think people aren't "just" waking up to Windows being insecure, unstable etc. It's just that they are willing to live with it rather than investigate alternate OS

  59. Windows Responds. by Yaztromo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear SC:

    If you think you're going to just dump me and leave after you've used me for all these years, you have something else coming, bub.

    I was a tramp when you met me, and you should have known this. I was brash, got around, was completely unstable. You weren't particularily good to me either -- you'd just disappear for hours every time you wanted to play Doom with your buddies.

    And it wasn't as if you didn't have other options. There was that nice, stable, amd smart OS/2 next door who had eyes for you. OS/2 was smart, sophisticated, let you do more at once, and could handle twice the bits I could. But you wanted someone who got around, who had been with all your friends, and who didn't require you to think or learn anything, who let you leave me and covort around with your old DOS buddies whenever you wanted.

    I did everything I could to try to hide the good life from you. I gave you some flash once in a while, but no substance. For some reason, you stuck around. I was always afraid you and your friends who used me would notice, so I had to take drastic measures.

    First off, I had to routinely sneak into your house in every new PC you bought, even if you or your friends didn't want me around. In fact, even if you couold go to sufficient lengths to make sure I didn't sneak back into your home, you still had to pay for my services. You paid, and got nothing in return. And yet you still kept coming back.

    I didn't like some of your friends. That DR-DOS guy bugged me, so I went somewhat haywire everytime you invited him around. I didn't want you to see that there were ways to improve me -- I never had any intention of improving.

    Eventually you started noticing that my bits were only half of what the others were offering, so I promised I'd change. That I too would have 32 bits like the others.

    And you believed me like a sucker. At first I claimed to support 32 bits through Win32s, but it was really just some more 16 bit stuff in a 32 bit disguise. I kept changing at random, not for your benifit, but to make sure you couldn't leave me by breaking OS/2's ability to run my software every month or so. Poor OS/2 was running around in circles trying to attract you by keeping up with my useless changes.

    Then suddenly in 1995 I decided to get some cosmetic surgery. You were stunned when you saw me, but really I just showed the cosmetic surgeon some pictures of OS/2 and MacOS and had him take bits and pieces from them and re-shape me to look like their bastard child. I was still ugly underneath, with serious problems. I still couldn't do more than one thing at a time very well, was still unstable, and still got around with all your friends.

    Worse yet, now even if you had wanted to get rid of me, I was going to show up. When you decided to upgrade your old 486 to a shiney new Pentium, I showed up uninvited. When you upgraded that Pentium to a faster model, I once again showed up, even though you already had paid for my services and held a valid license. I kept sucking your wallet dry, and was still mentally unstable.

    Then I became schitzophrenic, and started offering myself in a real 32 bit version without the cosmetic surgury. But you avoided me because I wouldn't play with your old DOS games, and had serious issues that were new and strange to you.

    In 1998, you started to sour. I'd been abusing you for years, but you like the sucker you are continued to stick around. I offered you a way to get onto the Information Superhighway, but ensured you could only do so in my way, when I felt like letting you. Sure OS/2 had been letting people do this for a few years -- I kept you away from the game as long as possible, but in the end, in order to keep you, I finally relented and gave you access to the new highway.

    By 2000, I was able to become cocky, and my schitzophrenia grew worse. You had every right and option to leave me, but I had put blue screens over all your windows so you could

  60. Why are Linux users so bitter? by heffrey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If Linux is so great then why do such acidic stories get posted? I mean, use Linux if that makes you happy. It doesn't bother me. It just makes the Linux community look pathetic when they make such snide comments about users of other systems.

    Grow up folks!

  61. Windows whoring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    For now I'm off to that flashy babe Windows. She might be an expensive, unreliable whore, but she looks stunning and good in bed. (...) Though I'll be back when she breaks my heart.
    You probably won't be back anywhere, ever.
    She's known to have had some 500 million guys, who've given her every virus or worm there is, and by the time you realize what a contagious beast she was, you'll have contracted so much more than both of you wished to share.
    Sure, there are rumors about that new miracle drug, SP3, that's supposed to save a lucky few of the people who were in bed with her, some day, but everyone says it won't be around in a while (quite possibly too late for you), and nothing ever brought relief for more than a few weeks anyway...
  62. Re:Dear Internet, IE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You say you wouldn't touch IE. How do you have any choice?

    Why, the first thing I notice about my Income Tax program from Intuit Canada (Quick Tax), is that it clearly uses IE dll's for all connections to the net. It is impossible to avoid IE in doing the most security critical things such as accessing absolute mandatory program updates (without with which it could not be compliant with all last minute changes to tax laws).

    Ditto, with Norton AntiVirus. When you keep up with the latest virus signatures, it uses IE modules for you to download them.

    The list goes on and on, but the worst of all is Microsoft Windows Update itself which is carefully designed to force you to use IE and ActiveX.

    By the way, I find that with respect to gdiplus.dll, the one that may be vulnerable to the bug that allows exploits via jpeg images, both HP and Norton software may be using doubtful versions.

    Yep, you sure can trust good old Microsoft! NOT!

    Microsoft is the good old "ease of use" company that changes to the "most difficult possible to use" when the slightest need for security arises!

  63. Dear Microsoft Windows by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've always hated you. There, I said it. I mean, sure, there was that childlike wonder in the 3.0 days when I was all "ooo... icons", but even then, you were fat, clumsy, and held me back from truly enjoying what I was really after.

    The computer - that sweet hotness that took my breath away from the very beginning when I first saw my friend's TI99-4A. O how I pine for the days of the bliss of programming in basic! And then came DOS, and GAMES! We had some wild nights back in the day.

    But you were always there, the computer's ugly friend who I had to accomodate and pretend to like. The only time I really ever began to think of you as anything more than an obstacle to my happiness is when I stopped using BBS services and discovered the Internet. But for that, I needed winsock and Netscape 1.0. You did the job poorly, but what choice did I have? You became not only my seetheart's ugly sister, but the ugly sister who had a car. If I wanted to see Dupree's Iguana cam, I had to hitch a ride from you. And so it went.

    Then came Windows95. You went from fat, annoying, and in the way to outright mean. You deliberately made my life difficult with your constant registry needs and inexplicable crashes. You harassed my customers and friends, and sucked away years of my life toiling in utter futility to find some way to get along with you without the situation becoming abusive. I knew there were places I could go to escape what was clearly an unhealthy relationship, like Linux, but I felt trapped. I had become so numb to the constant cycle of learning and relearning what would ultimately be useless information about how you went about your business and how best to work with you, wading through so much heartache and lies, that I let myself think that everyone was like you. I thought that getting to know someone like Linux would be just as futile as it was to live with you, and so I never sought escape. I thought it would be so hard to start new with someone else, and so I never did.

    98 came and went, as did 99, the year we all focused on WindowsME (selfish bitch). By 2000, I had forgotten why I started doing any of this in the first place. The wonder at the freedom to sit down in front of my C64 and create my own world was lost in a cacophony of blue screens, conflicting dlls, and product license key dialog boxes. I thought of ending it all. I thought of choosing another career, maybe working on cars for a living, because I just couldn't take it anymore.

    Then, off in the distance, I saw Linux again. She had changed since I'd seen her last. She was so much more open and welcoming. She didn't have your sophistication and clout, at least in those days, but there was a certain spark about her. There was something that seemed like being in front of that TI all over again - something wonderful, inspiring, and exciting. It started as a tryst on my home machine. A friend introduced us and I took her for a spin. She was intelligent, sleek, and seemed to do everything right. She never manipulated me for some other purpose; never lied to me. I forgot what it was like to deal with someone who was more concerned about my needs than the next big deal.

    I felt young again. She rekindled my early love and I faced the day anew, energized by the freedom and power of our new relationship. I didn't realize it at the time, but we were definately going places together. She would see me through some troubled times in the years to come. With her support, I've been able to do things I'd never dreamed of when I was slumming around with you.

    I just want you to know that I regret every moment of our time together, and I will never go back.

  64. Constructive criticism... by WebCowboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I suppose most of your opinions could be a matter of personal taste (I personally wouldn't mod you flamebait--maybe troll if I was in a bad mood), but I think it is because some of your criticisms of Linux appear to me and others as somewhat baseless. It gives the impression that you are either ill-informed or just looking to stir up crap:

    * MS is "easy to use" vs. Linux. This may be becasue you are most familiar with it. You'd probably think Macs were harder to use if you think Mandrake or Lycoris or Linspire were hard to use.

    * MS "looks good" - again a matter of personal taste--I personally think XP looks like garbage and it is the one of the main reason I refuse to upgrade my Win2k system at home to XP. At work--well--I just have to deal with it (customer is always right you know--besides there is always "classic mode"). If you DO like the XP look there are themes to make Linux look more like it, and Lycoris and Linspire were designed with that in mind.

    * MS doesn't take too long to load up. That is crap--on todays hardware everything starts up pretty quickly. On slower hardware like my notebook (dual boots Win2k and Mandrake 9.1) I find Mandrake boots significantly faster. Perhaps you did a huge/full install of Mandrake and started all services if you found it slow. In the application space, you should try AbiWord and Gnumeric--they are lightweight and speedy and have enough features to be useful for everyday work (actually Gnumeric kicks all other spreadsheets butts!)

    * Games - probably your only truly valid point. However video card drivers and game selection are slowly getting better

    * You don't have to build Linux from scratch yo your statement comes across as a thinly veiled insult. In fact in my experience and many others that are documented on the web, most popular distributions of linux are in fact EASIER to install than Windows. Plus, if you are reinstalling windows 2k or XP be prepared to spend extra time finding offline copies of the most important updates and installing them, along with firewall and antivirus software before you get anywhere NEAR a network connection, or you could literally pick up a virus within minutes. The only reason XP seems "easy" is because PC makers do the work for you before you even buy the PC.

    * you've acknowledged you use Opera over IE--but aren't you aware that IE is so pervasive and integrated now that it could rear its hideous head even when you are not surfing the 'net? Plus, to use windows update you MUST use it.

    It's a free country and you are entitled to your choice (and if your PC is indeed your entertainment then XP is probably the best choice). It's also fortunate that you've had zero problems with XP, because (along with win2k)it has been the cause of countless problems in my life. Personally, computer games are only a very small part of my "entertainment", and should I decide I want the best, latest games I'll pick up an XBox or a PS2. For productivity, web surfing and so on (my needs are not demanding either) I feel safer and more at home with Linux.

    1. Re:Constructive criticism... by suckmysav · · Score: 2, Informative

      "I personally think XP looks like garbage and it is the one of the main reason I refuse to upgrade my Win2k system at home to XP"

      Mebbe you already know this, but you do know that you can turn off the brain-rotting "eye candy" and make XP look pretty much just like Win2000 don't you?

      Having said that, there is still not a whole lot of reason as far as I can tell to make the upgrade anyway. XP doesn't do anything better than 2000 (unless you want to run the latest and greatest Adobe bloatware, which demands XP for no good reason at all.

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      "You can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
  65. Thick as a brick? by leonbrooks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hmm. I have a customer whose machine lasts about 43 minutes at a time under MS-Windows XP but runs flawlessly under Mandrake Linux 10.0 (he dual-boots, Mdk-Linux for real work and MS-Windows for MS-centric stuff). Does that count towards your theory? (-:

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    Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
  66. Your .sig by rjamestaylor · · Score: 3, Interesting
    • I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought...Albert Einstien

    AE expected the weapons to change, but not the way of warfare. In fact we are in the midst of World War III right now. And the weapons have actually become more crude than they were during World War II and the extension called the Cold War. The weapons of World War III are:

    • Passenger planes
    • Human bombs -- young men and women
    • Grainy videos of beheadings of innocents
    • Bomb-ladden school gyms
    • Box cutters and shoe bombs
    • etc.

    I hadn't considered this until reading your .sig. Now that the super-weapons have made state-to-state warefare unwinnable by any rouge state the way of warring has changed.

    --
    -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
    1. Re:Your .sig by Total_Wimp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're only half right at best. Some of the players are using the weapons you mention, the crude ones, but other players are using very sophisticated weapons. State of the art weapons haven't made war unwinable, they've just made it unwinable if you happen to posses them and use them (thought I forgot the don't? Didn't.).

      It's the classic story of the haves and the have nots. The haves (the ones with the state of the art weapons) sqeeze everything they can get away with from the have nots. Then they hang the have nots for daring to look at their women. It can go on like this for centuries until the have nots decide that they've had enough.

      The English in India. The American South early last century. South Africa 30 years ago. The peasants in France pre-revolution. The workers in Russia pre-revolution. Linux giving away software as it's only weapon against Microsoft.

      Today looks very similar. The trodden can only take so much before it doesn't matter how crude their weapons are... they fight anyway. And that war, as it turns out, is rarely winnable by the people with the state of the art weapons. Because you can't kill off _all_ of the people that do your laundry, buy your software, work in your mines and grow your food. When enough of them rise up, they find that even the crudest of weapons will do.

      The only way to win against the crudest weapons is to assimilate the ways of the oppressed. China is winning because they're embracing many parts of capitalism. The Soviet Union won when their countries started holding elections. The only way the current overlords can hope to win is if they start showing respect to the lives of the people they're fighting against. As long as we consider them to be "evil" their crude weapons will carry the day.

      TW

    2. Re:Your .sig by rjamestaylor · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Trodden? I'm not talking about the trodden. The only trodden fighting World War III are the religious fascists trying to fight a global war using their most vulnerable people (the trodden) as the weapons.

      Then you go off and talk about social and economic changes. Sure, these changes are important, but they are not warfare. In fact, I'd prefer not to refer to these changes in martial terms but in terms fitting their domain: social, political and economic changes.

      There is a war on between Jihadists and Secularists (many of whom are religious people of faith, but know that the State cannot be entrusted with such important matters). And in this war there are those who HAVE modern weapons and those who don't. It is imparative that we (the West, the Secularists) maintain this critical imbalance.

      I am glad my country has weapons and willpower to hunt down the Jihadists and destroy them.

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      -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
    3. Re:Your .sig by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 4, Insightful
      There is a war on between Jihadists and Secularists (many of whom are religious people of faith, but know that the State cannot be entrusted with such important matters).

      I am afraid that you have become a victim of a Western desease known as "sound-bite mania" or gross oversimplification of issues to make them appear black/white. This is a desirable effect of indoctrination by the "media", by like minded peers but most importantly by people who benefit from such abuse of your worldview.

      To look at things in more detail: your "secularists" are not. The Western camp is divided in many groups, some of them equally vicious, bloodthirsty and dangerous as the Jihadists (Israel springs to mind). Some others are willing to sacrifice tens of thousands of lives to play global power games or prove their pet socio-economic theories (the Neocons). Some others are willing to resort to brutal repression to keep their state (for better or worse) from fracturing into thousand pieces, a process of fragmentation which is actively encouraged by the Neocons for their purposes (Russia). That last one is particularly insideous because the Neocons (and other power hungry jackals) are actually aiding and funding the same very Jihadists they are supposedly fighting desperately elsewhere. But as they say, lust for power knows no shame. I could go on. In the other camp you have a mix of religious maniacs, desperados and people who consider themselves freedom fighters. You have nationalists who blow themselves up under a US tank in a bid to free their country and you have psychos who send teenage girls to blow themselves up in a cafe while they jostle for political power.

      This of course is just but a tiny sample of the actual complexity of the issue. But you are certainly doing a disservice to everyone by over-simplyfing it and at the same time you are also furthering the agenda of various Western-borne equivalents of "Jihadists" who wish to use this as a vehicle which they will ride to ultimate global power. Be wary because the fuel for that vehicle is ignorance and blood.

    4. Re:Your .sig by Total_Wimp · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not a religious war. These people live in desperate conditions. From their perspective, the only real resource they have to help them out of these conditions (oil) is virtually given to the west while the occupants of the land see very little tangible bennefit. We stay rich and they stay poor.

      Look at the people of palistine: poor
      Look at people of Iraq: poor
      Look at the people of Afganistan: poor

      The only rich countries in the region are the ones we're not fighting.

      Saudi Arabia: allies
      Kuwait: allies

      Look, the "haves" like to think that they're clean and good. Part of the way they do this is by misinterpretting the problem. Instead of seeing that they have a position of privelege and that they've set up the system so they'll always win, they see that the "have nots" are lawbreakers. It's easy to keep oppressing a lawbreaker. A murderer. A Zelot. Why should someone like that have rights? It's much harder to acknowledge that you've set up a system to where you pick which brand of HDTV you like while they're deciding between food and lights.

      So you've decided that they're "Jihadists" and "murderers". Wrong choice. That will get you exactly the same place as Israel, decade after painful decade of war. If you would have decided that these are needy people lashing out in desperation and maybe backed Iraqi oil going to Iraqi labor unions instead of Haliberton you might have had a fighting chance.

      TW

    5. Re:Your .sig by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I stopped reading your "long-winded fanaticism" when I got to this point

      Let me see. One of us reads the other's comments and the other one stops reading two lines in because its "fanaticsm". I dont think "fanaticsm" means what you think it means...

      Israel is a secular democratic state as is every Western country

      Goodness gratious, you are living in some alternate universe. Israel is defined to be a "Jewish" state. Not by me but by its founding fathers. It is in "The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel" of 1948. Unless there is a "Jewish" race (to my knowledge original Jews were Semites, just like the Palestinians and many other Arabs are) or some other clear-cut definition of a nation (all other "nations" are defined by unquestionable race/population/territory context which Isreal lacks utterly) we are talking a state whose defining element is religious. Democracy does not preclude wanton aggression as history teaches repeatedly, starting at war-mongering ancient Athens city-state and going from there all the way to adventures in Iraq. A cursory look at any independent (i.e. not written in Israel or by Isreali citizens in the USA or by opposing Arabic writers) history of events in Middle East of the last 50 years would certainly speak of what is today euphemistically called "ethnic clensing", apartheid, land grabs, annexations and destruction of property, summary punishments, etc. etc. all motivated by religious messianic fever with a healthy dose of greed and supremacist attitudes. The fact that Israel is surrounded by less then pleasant company of dictatorships and wobbly kingdoms is not an excuse to attempt to run (and annex choice chunks of) the neighourhood. I cant believe any person with even a modicum of integrity can defend blatant abuses Isreal has commited for all of these decades, on the basis that its political system is "democratic". Oh and example of how truly democratic that system is, one can find in the attempts to eliminate the voting rights of the Arab minority in Israel, in fear that its birth rate will lead to eventual majority of citizens of Israel being non-Jewish. But on the other hand one could expect that from a state that defines itself as being of one religion.

  67. You are not the problem... by dpilot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's great that you like to use XP on purpose. I'm glad you're happy.

    I simply want the freedom to choose to run Linux. The way Microsoft works, I feel that freedom is threatened.

    It's Microsoft's policies I HATE!!!!!!!

    I used to be an OS/2 user. Microsoft didn't out-compete OS/2 in any technical sort of way. They arm-twisted, cheated, and lied, and there's not much of any other way to put it. OS/2 Warp was competing and winning some amount of market share. One 'opportunity' for OS/2 software was music/midi. A company had a product called "Easy Keys for OS/2" all set to go. Microsoft bought the company before Easy Keys could get to market. Did the product get re-directed to Windows? NO! Microsoft bought the company pure and simple to prevent it from bringing out an OS/2 product. That's only one thing. There were others.

    Consider that per-CPU licensing was struck down in courts, but somehow Microsoft still has some sort of equivalent contract in-place preventing non-Windows preloads. Yes, there are a few non-Windows preloads, few and far between, and if the major brands have one, you have to look alongside the Vogan Interstellar Bypass plans at Alpha Centauri to find them.

    It has become more fashionable on Slashdot to bash people for bashing Microsoft or Microsoft products. I'm going to leave products out of this one, I'm bashing the company. I have seen NOTHING in their conduct, especially as the Linux community starts fearing the DRM and IP attacks, that makes me think there is any improvement whatsoever in Microsoft's Corporate conduct.

    IMHO, Microsoft deserved bashing 10 years ago with the AARD code, they deserve bashing NOW, and for nearly all of that time in-between.

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  68. Re: XP by choice by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Anyways I think people aren't "just" waking up to Windows being insecure, unstable etc. It's just that they are willing to live with it rather than investigate alternate OS"

    That and both points are heavily sensationalized over here. I run XP and 2K across several different computers. The general assumption here is that I spend hours a week dealing with viruses. I don't. I haven't been exploited in months. And, the one time I did, it was because I had a fresh install of XP out on the net sans firewall or a service pack. Doh.

    The other assumption is that I spend lots of time rebooting. Nope. My machines get rebooted once every two weeks or so. This is laughable compared to Linux, but virtually nothing in terms of practical time used. Back in the Windows 95/98 days, this was a legit complaint. (3 or 4 reboots a DAY) Today, though, it's just not enough time to notice. I'm 'living with it' about as disturbingly as living with wrong number phonecalls.

    So, by relieving myself of those problems with Linux, I'm not gaining a whole hell of a lot. I would, however, rack up a bunch of Google time trying to figure out how to make everything work. Linux is just going to have to do better than that to get people to switch. This has nothing to do with people having mixed up priorities.

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  69. Three Linux installs this week by NullProg · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No, I haven't read the article. Sounds like a rant though. I've done three Linux installs this week. Two SuSE 9.1, and one Gentoo.

    One USB scanner problem (SuSE 9.1). All Dual-Boot except for the Gentoo one (He has so many trojans/viri XP is useless on his six month old Dell Laptop). All are using KDE 3x.

    So far, everyone is happy/content. Linux not ready for the desktop my ass.

    Enjoy,

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  70. Re: XP by choice by Squozen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe you've had your head in the sand (or elsewhere) during the last couple of years, but the majority of the best PC games come out for the Mac these days. I stopped using my PC completely about 6 months ago when I quit EverQuest and switched across to my PowerBook which is coping just fine, thanks for asking.

    I finally got around to buying Warcraft 3 the other day, so I could get more of a feel for the WC world before World of Warcraft goes into open beta. To tide me over I'll be buying KotOR and Homeworld 2 this month, don't tell the missus... oh, and the Call of Duty expansion is due in November.

    To repeat: Plenty of games for the Mac, please return to your spyware scanning.