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Godless Godzilla and Godzilla at 50
pjones writes " Monster Zero reports that Toho has taken the God out of Godzilla leaving us with the affectionate if diminished name of 'Zilla.' But only the American Godzilla will become godless. 'Godzilla' is reserved for our suitmation favorite, while his rival, now called 'Zilla,' is the name for the computer generated star (?) of Godzilla 98. And yes we will see the two in mortal combat with 10 other monsters in Godzilla: Final Wars. In the meantime, Godzilla at 50 events are beginning world-wide. Leave it to Kansas to hold an academic conference, 'In the Footsteps of Godzilla'. In San Francisco, the plans are more gala where more films and more Godzilla involved personalities are part of the plans for GodzillaFest which will feature 20 films (not all feature Godzilla). Any other Gojira/Godzilla/Zilla events?"
Wasn't there a story last year saying they were putting G into semi-retirement, due to long term overexposure?
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I tried to run the OP through Babelfish, but it still made no sense...
Wtf is the writer trying to say?
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As an athiest, I support Zilla !
I heard he's really neat and full of Turtle Meat.
Is mozilla the illigitimate child of godzilla and opera?!???!!!???
May God(zilla) have mercy on that 1998 mockery that dared to claim the same name.
Oh by the by, I hope he eat Brodderick as well for the crime of being in that movie.
Atomic Flame Breath on!
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What about Godzuki? How on earth could they leave him out?
http://web.cetlink.net/~farrier/Gfaq.htm
Yes, yes, I know, only Hanna Barbera had Godzuki, but, still, I loved him....
"All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
I'm surprised the OP didn't mention that Godzilla is getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame at the U.S. premiere of Godzilla: Final Wars on November 29.
Godzilla vs. Bootzilla, baby...
He with the most funk shall win...(that and some really cool shades.)
"Give me taste, give me funk, give me fury, gimme some more."
After reading the article a couple of times, I believe they are trying to separate Suit-Up Godzilla from the Computer-Generated Godzilla.
If you think of it as the opposite of USB 2.0, it all makes sense.
Rock that crushes, Paper & Scissors that don't matter.
....who didn't understand one IOTA of what this post is about? Apologies to Gary Larson:
What we hear is: blah blah blah GODZILLA blah blah blah GODZILLA blah blah GODZILLA blah blah....
What does it mean to wake out of a dream
and be wearing someone else's shorts?
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He's the source of all our pain!
maybe they should consider a Bridezilla event?
...the "Godzilla: Final Wars" page, the (possibly incomplete) list of other monsters appearing is:
- Gigan
- Rodan
- Minilla
- Mothra
- Kamacuras
- Kumonga
- Manda
- Ebirah
- Anguirus
- King Caesar
- Hedorah
- Monster X
I summon... Rent-a-Zilla
-jim
...that read the story and went: WTF?!
Probbly..
Why is it so hot? Where am I going? What am I doing in this handbasket?
I for one am much more impressed by all of the movies now that I know that it isn't just a guy in a suit but is in fact a whole process called suitmation.
No one, can retire Gojira. No one!
Anyway: Godzilla is believed to have originally been intended by Toho (productions company) to represent the United States of America (being superior in its destructive capability)The name "Gojira" is a combination of "gorilla" and kujira, which means "whale" in Japanese." -wikipedia
The article is slashdotted already, but perhaps Toho has gotten over its fear of destruction of America? Or conversly, perhaps they are more scared of America and removed the "Gorilla" as not to offend a certain American who looks somewhat like a.... oh nevermind.
leave it to Kansas to hold an academic conference, 'In the Footsteps of Godzilla'.
I don't get it. Why is it especially appropriate for Kansas to do this?
A couple of interesting links showed up while I was lloking for this, too. It seems that the holders of the *zilla copyright are about as uncouth as Godzilla itself: square-zilla and davezilla.
See what I've been reading.
Now, don't slander all Kansans with that remark. Those KU Jailbirds have always had a weird sense of what's considered academic. you certainly wouldn't see K-State hosting such fluff!
Perhaps it is just political correctness gone out of control (again)?
Love sees no species.
Finally! Evidence of a 'Weapon of Mass Destruction'! I knew if we just waited long enough it would be found.
Eat Puff Daddy too for making that horrid Zeppelin remix on the soundtrack.
Godzilla Sushi. My favorite at Lotus Blossom.
If I remember it has eel, and each of the Sushi is topped with a different color of roe.
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"You will have no Godzillas before me!"
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
I'm an expert on what they say about Gozilla in Japan--they usually say something to the effect of:
Eeeek! Go-jirra!! Ack!
If you're in doubt, or unclear just assume they are lamenting their untimly death.
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From reading the article, what I think is happening is that Toho is making a new Godzilla movie in which the Japanese Godzilla (named "Godzilla) fights the American Godzilla (named "Zilla"). Hopefully, Godzilla will not only kill Zilla in a violent and bloody manner, but somehow manage to defeat Matthew Broderick at the same time.
Of course, I might be wrong. That was one of the least understandable article summaries I've ever read in my life.
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We all know about the tension between the owners of the godzilla name and mozilla. Given the latter is a knockoff of the formers name and also uses a giant (at one time green) lizard as its symbol, it is unsurprising that the following comment is in the article:
"In America there are imitation products on the market that have the name"Zilla."
The war with islam is a war on the beast
The war on terror is a war for peace
I think more to the point is that Godzilla (suit)is going to do battle with Zilla (CG). That is probably the reason for the name change, otherwise it would be a Godzilla vs Godzilla battle.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
What problems will it solve? A Crazed Nut will still be a crazed no matter what. Except for knocking at your door asking to join their religion they will knock at the door asking you to join their political party. Or other methods of forcing their own personal phelsopy on you. We will still fight wars, we will still have issues to fight for. Beliefe in God actually tends to moderate these people (Because a lot of the Extram Religious people tend not to think for them selfs on what is right and wrong, they just do what a book tells them to do).
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
PUT GOD BACK
I hear there's rumors on the Slashdots
As noted, only the American version is being called Zilla....because the Japanese regard him as being a weak-dick knockoff of the real thing. What they don't realize is that we pretty much think the same thing. Japanese fans call the American version GINO, an acronym for Godzilla In Name Only.
Anyway, they put this fight in here to stick it to the American filmakers that created the overgrown iguana; I'd personally like to see Godzilla tear him to pieces, then turn around and take a big nuclear shit on his carcass, while the other monsters stand around and laugh at him.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
Man, first they take God out of the schools, now they're taking him out of the monsters. What next?
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when I cut my mp3 cds every couple of months.
In a related story, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that when saying the pledge of allegience all school children must say "under zilla."
Have fun: Join D.N.A. (National Dyslexics Association)
Sure, look what it did for the formerly officially atheist Soviet Union. No problem at all.
Scientific socialism to the rescue!
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I think "Follow me or spend eternity in horrible pain" is a stronger motivator than "Follow me or our taxes will double!".
I mean...really...If political parties were as movtivating as religion, we'd have alot more registered voters.
Blar.
Next time you see the great popcorn adventure "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" (I highly recommend it), watch the newspapers that flow on-screen early in the movie after the first attack in New York.
One Japanese paper shows a very familar outline of our favorite destroyer, ostensibly taking on the robots.
Next to Sir Laurence Olivier finding work in the movie (despite being dead), it was one of the many funny in-jokes of the movie. The link above details more.
Vos teneo officium eram periculosus ut vos recipero is.
I remember watching old black & white Godzilla movies as a kid on Saturday mornings. Watching Godzilla stomping on all those toy buses, trains, and buildings was great fun. The best though was when all the Japanese actors would be talking (or yelling and screaming) and the English words never matched their mouths. Great "B" movies never die, just like Godzilla.
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in the words of the immortal(?) Harry Knowles:
"MAN IN SUIT! MAN IN SUIT!!!"
thank you
May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage. RAmen.
I'll be fishing and breathing fire (possibly due to drinking)
"Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
Imagine Goldmember this way:
Japanese Man 1 : RUN! IT'S ZILLA!
Japanese Man 2 : It looks like Zilla, but due to international copyright laws - it's not.
Japanese Man 1 : STILL! WE SHOULD RUN LIKE IT IS ZILLA!
Japanese Man 2 : Though it isn't.
No.. it just isn't as funny..
This has essentially nothing to do with your propostion, which seems to be that the only basis for a compassionate or reasonable society is religion. And that capitalism is somehow tied to religious practices. You think if you take America, get rid of religion, then you end up with the Soviet Union? You think the only basis for morality and ethics is religion? There are so many mistakes in your post I wouldn't even know where to begin.
Yes, that's the list. Funny thing about it, though...
There are advertisements available on the Internet which show clips of each of the monsters. Minilla, the much-hated "Son of Godzilla" in the awful G-films of the 60s, is not shown. A monster that is shown, however, is GINO -- the nickname given to the Hollywood Godzilla (Godzilla In Name Only). So this leads to an interesting idea: is Toho going to refer to the Hollywood Godzilla as Minilla in "Godzilla Final Wars?" That would be an incredible "fuck you" to the bastards at Tri-Star who took Japan's most pervasive contribution to world culture and turned it into a brainless, typical Hollywood summer blockbuster.
Perhaps it is too much to hope for. But consider these facts. First, Toho has already said this is going to be the last film for a long time. No need to worry about retribution from offended TriStar studio executives. Second, Toho seems to be making this film as a legitimate thank you to all their fans. The budget for this film is several times larger than in a typical film. What better way to tickle their fans then to mock GINO?
GMD
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leave it to Kansas to hold an academic conference, 'In the Footsteps of Godzilla'.
I don't get it. Why is it especially appropriate for Kansas to do this?
Maybe because Kansas is so damn flat it looks like Godzilla stomped everything that was once there into the ground. Get it? "Footsteps of Godzilla?" You see, his footsteps from his stomping...ah, forget it.
That entire submission was a little hard to understand. I'm not sure it was meant to claim there was any particular reason why it should be held in Kansas. Maybe we're both too dense to figure it out...
GMD
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hopefully that clears things up
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What's the point of using acronyms when you have to type out the whole phrase anyways?
Was political corectness ever IN control?
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
Oh yeah, sure, you know... if we keep removing "God" from everything in our lives, eventually God is going to get pissed off. Not to sound all hokey about this, but really ask yourself... you think the sudden increase in CO2 levels is just a fluke? Ask yourself, do you think this discrediting story is really true, or not? Odd, the weather has been strange lately - especially since we're 40 degrees above normal temperature here.
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at the end of the fight between Godzilla and Zilla...
Mozilla will appear and trash them both to ashes.
Claiming that god-less society was responsible for the ills of the communist block is like filling a bathtub with acid for aunt Jane, and then blaming the bathtub for her death. The problem was blind following of ideology. Be it the one party ideology or "don't you dare to question the president" ideology or god "instructed me to strike at Saddam" ideology. Nobody really speaks directly to god, yet in a religious society there are always people who claim that "god said this and god condemns that". This is not a problem if spoken by a peasant in a remote village, but if spoken by a person who has the proverbial finger on a nuclear strike button, it is very troublesome.
A religious war is an adult version of a fight over who has the best imaginary friend
You heard it here first.
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Shit, I missed the boat. I am of the 'religion is a buncha hooey' camp, but I just figured it was a story about a guy in a rubber suit.
You might reconsider the concept of the persecuted majority here, friend.
"Faith: Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel." - A.B.
Seriously, that Zilla movie was the worst abomination to Godzilla I have ever seen. I spent my childhood watching Gozilla movies on Saturday & Sundays enjoying every minute, until Hollywood ruined it. We need to Boycott Hollywood, and stop them from importing movies(Shall We Dance, The Ring).
The last time there was an all-star monster cast like this in a film was the 1969 Destroy All Monsters. But don't expect a repeat of that finale with all the monsters ganging up on Ghidora. Based on what I've read, the director is in favor of a very powerful Godzilla. One so powerful that a single blast from his breath weapon will be enough to dispatch a foe (similiar to his fight with Baragon in the 2001 film "Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidora: Giant Monsters All Out Attack"). Also, the plot seems to indicate that most of the monsters are going to be wiped out by aliens who arrive on Earth just in the nick of time (hmmmm) to save us.
I, for one, have never understood why Toho doesn't film more multi-monster battles? All Godzilla's fights seem to be one-on-one. There are times where multiple monsters are present (e.g., Godzilla and MOGERA team against SpaceGodzilla, Mothra and Battra against Godzilla) but even in those cases the action is really limited to one monster attacking another and the others just standing around watching. Surely they should be able to choreograph these fights to make them a little more exciting. I mean, Kamacuras is nothing more than a giant Praying Mantis. So it's not going to fare to well against, say, Gigan. But you get Kamacuras, Manda, and Kumonga to simultaneously attack Gigan and now you've got a real fight!
GMD
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A large part of the great success of the US comes directly from freedom to practice religion - many immigrants came here from Russia, England, Germany because they were persecuted for their beliefs. The only way to accomplish what the original poster wished for, a "god-less" US, would be to establish a prosecution that would make the ss and kgb look like a boy scout troup. There are *many* free worshippers here, and nothing short of a Stalanist purge will change that.
The problem many of the contemporary faithful have is with the increasing involvement of government in our daily lives, which cannot promote this or that particular religious expression since it is funded from the taxes of all (we cannot allow nativity scenes on public town squares paid for by taxes confiscated from practicing Muslims, for example).
ANY religous practice handed down from generations ago teaches peace, compassion and civility, manners, morals and ethics toward fellow citizens, and there are those who seek the commanality of beliefs of all faiths, and other who exaggerate the differences and end up wanting to slaughter aliens cultures they just don't understand.
Reducing humanity to a herd of biological cattle you can feed into effecient scientific slaughterhouses whenever they get too numerous is about the worst of all possible views of humanity.
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This gets modded "Interesting?" Freaks.
...of course, this will get modded "Troll." (peers up for his score...wait for it...wait for it...)
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It spossible to be religious without going to a building. How can you be politicol without voting, the most basic part of the whole process?
Blar.
Wow, normally I'd say I'd buy a box set of em all but jeebus, that'd be expensive.
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All these posts and no one mentioned Bambi vs Godzilla?m l
http://www.lowcomdom.com/film/b/bambi_godzilla.ht
Who is John Cabal?
Therefore, Godzilla could fight (God)Zilla without a name change... it would just get very confusing. But, then again, Godzilla has fought Mechagodzilla and Space Godzilla...
Speaking as a fan of the Godzilla franchise: I'm cool with the Zilla name. The continuity is so shaky over the past 50 years that doing this really doesn't bother me one bit. And, frankly it sounds like Final Wars will be what Destroy All Monsters (the movie, not the videogame) was supposed to be...
You'd think they would have included that in the summary.
This is Slashdot. "WTF" is our middle name.
In Japan it is "Gojira"(katakana). I've got this amazing vinyl LP I picked up in Japan in the 80's with some really cheezy tracks, but the one gem is guitars doing all the sound effects, screaming just like Gojira then the jets fly in and the missiles explode.
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The most horrendous monsters of all...
DiNuCi and RoNuCi.
Run for your lives!
[ob-hint: the letters in caps stand for the two major parties in the USA's political system]
In Japanese, the name is gojira, which is half gorira (Gorilla) and half kujira (Whale), so if anything, they have taken the Gorilla out of Godzilla, which leaves us with a quirky movie about a whale that fights other mutants over Tokyo and millions of screaming Japanese people.
Hey! I work for the people putting on the Conference in Lawrence, Kansas.
If you go to the website, you can register, all the events are free!!!
Will anyone being seeing the film in Japan?
Who's your user, program?
I recognize all those words, but have no idea what they mean collectively.
Crusades. Witch Burnings. The Spanish Inquisition.
The Albigensian crusade, where the 'wonderful' quote "Kill them all - God will recognize his own" comes from.
Slavery justified in the name of God.
You misunderstand the problem, which is that any totalitarian regime cannot tolerate any independent thinking as this is a threath to the power structure of said society. Thus independent or "different" thinkers get Gulag'ed, jailed, burned, tortured to confess, what have you.
Or they get Guantamoed.
Yeah, you were on the right track when you invaded Afghanistan, I was cheering your guys from the sideline and crossing my fingers that you'd get the bastards - I was damn happy when my government sent the special forces contigents US Command asked for. I was a bit concerned when your government started dragging people halfway around the world for the express purpose of violating the Geneva Convention on the treatment of captives.
The US Army deserves better. They're the good guys, for crying out loud!
And what's with letting the CIA near people in Abu Ghraib? The Army ought to have smacked the civilian spooks into next week and let their own intelligence people handle it - you know, the real military professionals.
I think a lot of your problem stems from having civilans at the top who think Chain of Command is an inconvenience and somehting they can safely ignore, instead of doing it the right way which is to tell the Pentagon the desired result and let them work out how to do it without stupid-ass interference from civilians on battefield tactics and strategy.
Damn, I'm rambling today - and off topic to boot. Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound.
You're not at the point of Guantamoing internal dissidents, and (most of) the people currently held there probably aren't lily-white innocents. I'm just a tad concerned that the USA seems to be violating their own values in the face of an attack on those very values. The more you become like your despotic and tyrannical enemies, the more you let them win. I really hope you guys step back from the brink on this one - I'd hate to see you waste the greatness of the USA in response to the terrible things done to you that day. If you do, the terrorists will have won - and I really hope you'll see their attack and stop reorganizing along the lines they want you to.
Because I think the Guantanamo prison is perhaps the most insidious attack on your culture and nation since the internment camps of WWII - if I had my tinfoil hat with me I'd star wondering just who it was who suggested that it was a good idea in the first place. Because no matter who wins the battle, you lose the war if people start thinking that it's okay to "deal with" the enemies of the State outside of the legal framework.
And man, I will be weeping for you all if that gets to become an acceptable way to deal with people under the War on Terror.
Zilla Wafer: looks vaguely like the real thing, smells different, tastes different, crunches different; an imposter! And with any luck, will be turned to pixel pie by the Real G.
I feel compelled to see this movie, as redemption for being stupid enough to buy a ticket for Zilla Wafer in '98.
I think by flamebait the moderator meant you were at risk of drawing Godzilla's famous firey breath. It's a compliment.
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Has anyone in the states seen the original??
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There's always this alternate spelling, as in Eric Whitacre's "Gawd$illa eats Las Vegas"
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I'd do it myself but the rules don't allow the OP to do that.
I'm talking "Pjones is a comic genius"
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"ANY religous practice handed down from generations ago teaches peace, compassion and civility, manners, morals and ethics toward fellow citizens,"
I just wish people would listen to those teachings and take them to heart.
Well I've wrestled with reality for thirty five years doctor, and I'm happy to say I finally won out over it.
Read it again.
I said you can celebrate all the national hollidays which every country has.
Every nation?
So I can take off on Antiguan Independence Day (Nov. 1st), Belarus Remembrance Day (Nov. 2nd), Japan's Culture Day (Nov. 3rd), Northern Mariana Island Day of Citizenship (Nov. 4th), Morocco's Anniversary of Green Day March (November 6th), Micronesian Pohnpei Constitution Day
(Nov. 8th), Cambodian Independence Day (Nov. 9th), Veteran's Day (Nov. 11th), Cantebury Day (Nov. 12th), Brazilian Republic Day (Nov. 15th), Bhutan H.M. the King's Birthday (Nov. 16th), Azerbaijani Day of national Revival (Nov. 17th), Uzbekistan Flag Day (Nov. 18th), Belizean Garifuna Day (Nov. 19th), Mexican Revolution Day (November 20th), Swiss Onion Market Day (Nov. 22nd), Japanese Labour Thanksgiving Day (Nov. 23rd), Thanksgiving (Nov.25th), Laotian Water Festival (Nov. 26), French Guiana Kourou Day (Nov. 29th), and Philippines Bonifacio's Day (Nov. 30th)!
I'm starting to like this atheism thing. It's so cosmopolitan!
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
So who's the jerk who's going around modding down all my on-topic posts as off-topic? If you don't agree with what I say, that is insufficient reason to mod me down. My response was on-topic to the person I was replying. If you are enacting a policy of modding all religious posts as off-topic, then you should only mod-down the one who brought it up first, not the ones who replied. Once something has been raised, it becomes a legitimate topic for reply.
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.