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Ask Director of 'Trekkies' Roger Nygard
When I was last in California, I had the good fortune to bump into Roger Nygard who agreed to be a Slashdot interview victim. He is the Director of Trekkies, 6 Days in Roswell and the recently released Trekkies 2. He's made quite a name for himself documenting some fairly extreme geek activity, and this is your chance to put him through the wringer. Standard interview rules apply: Post questions. Moderate them. We'll select the best and post Roger's answers in a few weeks.
Was that a Vulcan or a Romulan?
And if not, how do you establish what sort of cultural phenomena you want to document? What made you decide to make Trekkies, for instance?
Have you ever thought to do an AD&D documentary?
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Ask him if he prefers Star Trek or Star Wars.
Not really a question, but I would like you to tell me about the most fanatic fan of Star Trek you have encountered.
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In your experiences, have you ever found a problem that couldn't be fixed by reversing the polarity of something?
You mean 'wringer'. In the old days, washing machines didn't do the spin-dry thing. You had to take the wet clothes out of the barrel, and feed them through, you guessed it, a wringer, which was two motor-driven rubber rollers that squeezed the water out of the clothes. It was fairly powerful, and people got hurt.
Do you have a favorite Star Trek episode and a favorite series? If you say Voyager or Enterprise, you may be lynched.
Who is more likely to strike out in anger, Trekkies or those who hate them? Have you been threatened for your work? Is the franchise dying a slow death?
What format are you using to shoot your documentaries (digital or film)? What workstations and applications do you use to edit your film?
The little bell? The unrecognized pro who mops up the local opposition before anyone realizes who he is? Oh, no, you mean the WRINGER. -- People who don't understand metaphors shouldn't call the kettle by any other name.
You should have reversed the polarity of the grill, which would have resulted in a tasty cheeze beef treat.
The thing I mostly remember from the whole Trek phenomena, especially with Shatner, was when trekkies were told to get a life. It was fairly harsh as I remember, but those who were not Trekkies would always laugh whenever Shatner would say it. Trekkies on the other hand, simply took it in stride.
What can you say about this kind of negative response to fan adoration and does it prove something about the whole Trek phenomena, the actors and fans, or does it detract from the experience?
The dangers of knowledge trigger emotional distress in human beings.
"Footies". Where we interview people who watch football all the time, dress in the kits, and go to these whacky "Games" where they get to see their stars performing, and meet up with other fans.
We should concentrate on how obsessively sad these people are, and find people who have memorised entire games, and spend vast amounts of money collecting memorabilia and signed tat.
Which captain do you think was the best?
do you think the old or new trekkies are more fanatical?
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I myself am in correspondence with many of these people. In my view, these are some of the most interesting people in all of the particular segment of the spacetime continuum that I am able to project my signals to. Of course, the Prime Directive forbids me to reveal any of the technological details that many 'geeks' hunger for, but these discourses can nevertheless be quite rewarding, if they are confined to matters that are common to my time and theirs.
I have put my point across. Tuvok Out.
Without the darkness, how would we recognize the light?
Sports are a little more universal than sci-fi, check out recorded human history sometime.
Have you ever considered juxtaposing the extreme yet socially reviled behavior of the 'Trekkies' against the no less extreme but socially accepted behavior of (for example) sports fans? Is it the 'socially aberrant' element that draws you to the subject?
- Bachelorhood is the father of necessity.
2. What type of car do most trekkies drive? SUV, hybrid, Dodge defiant?
3. Do any of them buy the fact that even the slightest blast cases fires/sparks on the bridge? Do they hold the lowest price enterprise contractor responsible?
"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a fat white guy who is threatened by change."
Similarly...
Are you a Star Trek fan? If so, do you think your films make trekkies seem like bigger freaks than the average person already assumes them to be? If not, what was your motivation?
Pointing out that pointing out the illiteracy of editors is never offtopic on slashdot is never offtopic on slashdot!
And neither is infinite regress.
at a star trek con... three words. Babylon five uniform.
Then when someone calls you stupid for dressing in the wrong get up point a mirror in their face and tell them their mother did a bad job with the uniform.
Tom
Someday, I'll have a real sig.
And the hobby of people moore's ripping on is what? Killing people?
Look, there are limits to everything, and when people push limits, it's either awe-inspiring or laughable.
It's a re-directing troll - nothing to see here folks...
Trekkies are Slashdotties? If some Trekkies are Slashies and some Slashies are Trekkies which of the following is true: A. All Trekkies are Slashies B. All Slashies have pointy ears C. Some Trekkies are Slashies with reversed polarity
"If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college."
-Lewis Black
On the surface, it seems like Trekkies are just really big fans, and that fandom propels them to participate in the universe.
It seems to me, however, that something different is going on. Fandom is often emulation--the Spock ears, the "Dammit Jim" variations, that sort of thing. But Trekkies take it a step farther: they create new material that is meant to merge with the pre-existing Trek world. In this way, Trekkie-ness is more like playing D&D than being in a Sci-Fi film club.
What I wonder (and here's my question) is whether you've noticed some common ground that launches people to go past being a fan and becoming a Trekkie. Is it dissatisfaction with new series and recent movies being weaker than past ones? Possibly some other characteristic that fans tend to share that, when merged with fandom will lead into Trekkie-ness? Is there something inherent about the star trek world that encourages people to internalize their identification with the star trek world? Or is there nothing at all consistent about the way Trekkies enter that world?
I can't quite put my finger on it, but there are probably reasons outside of these films, that people consider Trek fans to be ...freakish.
I can't tell from watching the film
Of course, then you have to decide was she trying for the Kirstie Alley Saavik or the Robin Curtis Saavik. Don't even get me started on that controversy.
"Bimbos of the Death Sun"?
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I've been in a room with grown men watching sailor moon. That was the scariest moment of my life.
Laughing all the way to the bank, much like the laughing Vulcan and his dog.
Of course, if you run into a temporal anolamy every freakin' week, it hardly seems anomalous any more, now does it? (Or did I watch Voyager for too long?)
In your experience/opinion, why does Star Trek attract such a fanatical following, and why is there such ridicule directed towards those that consider themselves fans? It seems unique even among sci-fi franchises.
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"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing and it was everything that I thought it could be."
You know when "schadenfreude" is the new buzzword when people start trying to force it into a post when another word would be more appropriate. Hint: schadenfreude means something more specific than the implication that the tables have turned on someone. Attempting to use it in such a general way is like trying to turn a torx head screw with an alan wrench.
As someone who has been around the Star Trek community for a long time, what is your take on the direction of Star Trek in TV, and Movies? Follow-up: Do you think Star Trek should take some time off and regroup, or keep pushing thru the 'rut' some people think the series is in right now?
The Camel has Spoken!
1. What do you think about Shatner's new album, Has Been?
2. Do you think Shatner is a spokesman for All-Bran
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I am curious about the audiences of your films. Were you intending for them to cater to the non-nerd community? Nerd community? Only hardcore fans of Star Trek, Alien Conspiracy Theorists, etc.? What audience did your films end up finding?
Have your subjects been pleased or displeased with the way they were portrayed?
Why does root beer foam up a whole lot when you initially pour it over ice, but then subesequent pourings don't foam as much, even though it's fresh root beer hitting the same ice?
--- Ban humanity.
Do you have Finnish or Swedish relatives? My surname is Nygård, so I'm quite interested.
Modulate the phasing of the tachychron particles.
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Roger Nygård
Are you aware of the fact that you've been mispelling your name your whole life?
A norwegian.
"" How about taking the safety labels off everything, and let the stupidity-problem solve itself? """
How long did it take for Hans Solo to make the Kessel run?
It seems to me that the Star Trek fanbase is aging, and there aren't really a lot of new fans getting into it. I first became a serious Star Trek fan years after the show was cancelled, and continued to varying degrees throughout the years. Back in the 70's it seemed like there were some science fiction conventions (and conferences) and lots of Star Trek conventions.
But with the popularity of so many other genre shows out there now, including Buffy/Angel, Farscape, Babylon 5, Stargate and others it seems that a lot of people who in the past would have gravitated towards Trek and many other shows to get fanatical about.
The success of Star Trek in its many forms has helped to lay the groundwork for a lot of the fandom centered around other shows, but the Star Trek franchise itself might be suffering a bit because of this.
My specific question is, during the filming of Trekkies 1 and 2, did you notice large numbers of younger fans, and did there seem to be around the same number when you filmed the sequel - or did you notice any decline in the numbers of younger fans?
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Ever thought about doing a movie on Slashdot, and Slashdot-like sites? You'll find the people just as rabid as the Trekkie fans. :P
Julie Moult is an idiot.
It's the 'dressing up' and 'acting out' that the audience finds entertaining. The fact that some people can be so extroverted (or shameless) doing something most people would be so embarrassed to do. Infact I'd like to see a Cosplay documentary touching on everything from Civil War reenactors to Xena-philes.
According to the Six Days In Roswell website, Roger Nygard didn't direct the film...Timothy B. Johnson did. Nygard produced it.
Those who sacrifice security to condemn liberty deserve to repeat history or something. - Benjamin Santayana
So, when is the documentary about the extreme activities of Everquest players coming?
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I'm a Trek-KER you....*sigh* insensitive clod!!
"You know why you do not see me styling wit my homies? Because I have no homies!!" -Mojo Jojo
Who would win in an all out brawl between Trekkies led by Shatner and Star Wars fanbois led by Hamil? Would Renaissance Fair nerds be an appropiate referee?
Some of the Star Trek "fans" in your movies, like the midget Daryl, clearly have mental health issues. Do you feel any need to get some of these people help or do you just profit from their stupidity like the people who make the Girls Gone Wild videos?
Was there anything you shot or witnessed during the creation of your documentaries that was just too "hardcore" to put in? Were there things that were just so horrifically nerdy you had no choice but to leave them out? Anything that would alienate everyone except the heartiest star trek fans and alien conspiracy theorists? Was there anything that was just so scary you couldn't possibly put it on film?
Dear diary: Today I stuffed some dolls full of dead rats I put in the blender.
Sheesh, it was an SNL sketch, not Shatners personal opinion or hatred.
Maybe Shatner has no outright hatred but I think it's also pretty sad that he doesn't seem to appreciate the fans. Neither Shatner nor Patrick Stewart agreed to be interviewed for Trekkies. I'm assuming the reason was money -- not enough of it. I, however, believe that since Star Trek made these guys so popular that they could afford to command high salaries, they should have agreed to be interviewed for Trekkies for a smaller-than-usual amount.
My first question of the director is if he could verify my assumption: that Shatner and Stewart weren't interviewed for Trekkies because of money (as opposed to a conscious decision by the director to focus on the other actors). Second, if you did, indeed, want them in the film and they refused, did you work hard to get them? Did you try to negotiate their payment? Did they even consider your offer? Or did you simply get a letter from their agent saying, essentially, "Mr. Statner is too important to be interviewed in your two-bit documentary."
I'm really dying to know. Shatner, I can believe being a dick. I was a little surprised not to see Stewart in Trekkies, however.
Thanks,
GMD
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Does he like being pooped on? http://www.milkandcookies.com/links/2536/
I know there are a lot of Trekkies out there that insist on being called "Trekkers". Do you ever get hard-core "Trekkers" insisting on calling your movie "Trekkers"? Does it bother you as much as it bothers them when we call them "Trekkies"?
A professional athlete brought into amateur competition in order to gain an unfair advantage is a "ringer".
You put something through a wringer.
How do you respond to accusations that you condescended and were basically laughing at the subjects in Trekkies?
And before you answer, "There's no such thing as bad publicity," read what Adam West had to say about his post-Batman experiences. It's not like Shatner's and Stewart's concern is totally unreasonable.
Any ideas on which nerdy fandom to hit next? I think at times Anime fans surpass trekkies in all out weirdness.
Though noting surpasses the Furries in pure batshit insanity. But they've already been harvested quite nicely by shows like CSI.
Not bad so much, but loud if you don't lower your speakers.
Considering that "Trekkies" was released by Paramount, and had interviews with several of the stars of the various series, (even narrated by one) was there any concern that the movie would be seen as a little less than objective, and not touching on some of the more negative or depressing parts of some Trekkies' lifestyles?
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Considering Slashdot can get up to half a million readers a day, and has a subculture of it's own, would you consider doing something like "Trekkies", but for this site... say "Slashdotters"? I wouldn't be surprised how many on this site could possibly be trekkies themselves. And, yes, I am guilty of collecting ST box sets.
Refrigerate your damned root beer and glasses and maybe you won't have this problem, numbnuts.
When I think of Slashdot I'm more apt to think of "infinite digress" :-).
Where were you educated and where did you get your desire to be a film-maker? Since you've made a name for yourself in documentaries, what sort of films inspired you to take this route? What's your favorite documentary film? Finally, what do you think the impact the current crop of politically oriented documentary films, such as Fahrenheit 9/11 (and its antithesis, Fahrenhype 9/11), Super-Size Me, The Corporation, and so on, will have on the documentary film genre as a whole? There have always been well-made, politically oriented documentaries, but with these films making serious box office dollars, do you think documentary film-makers will be pressured into pigeonholing their art to serve a specific politically-oriented moviegoing demographic?
Nygard included Rich Kronfeld in his movie "Trekkies" as the mega-fan who had built his own Captain Pike chair. Kronfeld was a comedian in Minneapolis with a public access show called "Dr. Sphincter", and although he did actually own the chair, his appearance in the film was clearly a fictional exaggeration.
Here's my question:
Were there any other people in Trekkies that were clearly "taking the piss", or does Kronfeld believe that the rest of the fans in it were more or less sincere in their devotion to chosen lifestyles?
-BbT
Have any trekkies tried to secede from their own government and start the Federation ?
Earth nation-states working together, a global alliance - exploring new technology and space travel...
Star Trek (TOS) was always hopeful for the future of humankind.
But lately, the world is looking much more like
'Mirror - Mirror' - with the Empire ruling over all, by force.
And if so, was to good or awesome? Family members don't count.
I worked at ATOMIC COMICS in PHX (Metro Location) during the late 90's. If you EVER need an idea for a movie, just hang out there for a few months. I had an idea knocking' around called "TOY WHORES" about the collectible action figure secondary market. But there are the LARP-ers, the RPG-ers, the WARHAMMER nuts, the comic book porn aficionados, the FURRIES (all shaped like pears and have greasy long hair), the hordes of unshowered Magic Players ( you SMELL a Magic tourney before you see/hear it), the PRETENCIOUS ANIME NUTCASES ( ACTUALLY, we've already SEEN all of INUYASHA years ago...how about some UTINNI? Do you have any of that?) and the occasional hot girl (if you knew Denise, you'd know what I was talking about). So go get a job at a comic book store and you'll have more material then you'll know what do with.
It's a trick....get an axe.
Should read "does Nygard believe"
-BbT
Trekkies 2? So, you gave up and just made a sequel, heh.
"We shall party like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean." - HedonismBot
At some points one may be laughing at common idiosyncracies that one shares with the "obsessed," at other points it might be a case of saying "I'm bad, but this guy is worse"
What was your most memorable/strange(if any) moment when doing research for Trekkies 2?
Current Trek probably doesn't provide a qualitatively strong experience to imprint its fandom on the young. It's hard to imagine a kid in 2004 looking at Star Trek and thinking it a great bandwagon on which to jump.
Are my presumptions wrong here? Are teens really hot for Star Trek these days, or have they found something else? In my 40-ish ignorance, I imagine the trend might be something japanese, or out of video game culture