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Searching for a Satellite Pager?

mcolgin asks: "I need a satellite pager! Why? I own a dot-com and as the only technical person responsible for the 7 servers needed to run the site and it's automated delivery systems, I've got to find out about any problems, before my customers/suppliers do; no matter where I am, especially when I'm: camping in Eastern-Washington; back-country skiing in Whistler; or driving down to Oregon for Mother's Day. I've tried every type of cellphone and pager I can find, but nothing gets a message to me once I get out of populated areas and away from freeways. So, I started looking into Satellite pagers; but I swear, I can't find anything in the local Seattle, WA area and only a couple listings online from Google searches. This has got to be a problem that the Slashdot community has run into, before. Any suggestions?"

243 comments

  1. There are many options by Exstatica · · Score: 5, Informative

    Iridium who does satellite phones also does global pagers. The pagers are not too expensive about 150.00 dollars US, but the service is about 127 dollars a month for unlimited pages or you can get the basic plan that i think is around 56 dollars it gives you about 150 pages per month. If your stuff doesn't go down that much i'd get the basic plan. A place that I know that sells it is InfoSat YOur other option is have your cell phone text messaged. I usually never not have service. If I do it's not for very long, and when i get back into a populated area or get reception i get my messages right away. The point is, what if you get a page but you can't call anyone because you have no reception. That would fustrate me more.

    1. Re:There are many options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smoke Signal is another great option that you might want to consider, hire lots of relays to be between you and where you plan to camp or whatever. Drums work well too.

    2. Re:There are many options by ProfaneBaby · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Iridium + Text messaging (http://messaging.iridium.com/) is the way to go. That way you can not only receive it anywhere, but you can take action.

      The one thing I did notice with the Iridium phones is that while they work EVERYWHERE on the globe (including in the middle of the Pacific on a cruise ship, great reception despite the latency), they don't perform as well as most modern phones in steel buildings (again, cruise ship). On the deck they were great. In the large open air suites they were great. In the casino and restaurants, not so great.

      Above and beyond that, find a great managed hosting solution and make a deal with them to respond to alerts during periods of absence. I know my hosting company does this with our application servers from time to time.

      Hope that helps.

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    3. Re:There are many options by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 5, Funny

      Iridium + Text messaging is the way to go. That way you can not only receive it anywhere, but you can take action.

      Oooo I can see it now. Jack is out ona hike and the site goes down.

      *beep* *beep*

      Boss via text messaging: "Jack, the site is down."
      Jack via text messaging: "WTF!"
      Boss: "Can you help out?"
      Jack: "kybord no good 4 typng! LOLz. cya l8r"

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    4. Re:There are many options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they don't perform as well as most modern phones in steel buildings

      Well, Gee.. What is one to expect? That a low powered signal in a building that's great at absorbing any kind of EM can get to space and vise-versa?

      Honestly, I'd be suprised if it worked inside ANYTHING, no less the steel and concrete faraday cage that is modern construction.

    5. Re:There are many options by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      Just hire a sidekick to take over while you're on vacation. Get a business partner. Share the wealth.

      Either that, or don't go on vacation. Ever. Again.

      You could get a satelite phone and have a server (monitoring the other servers) dial you and play a message if downtime happens. That's what a friend of mine did.

    6. Re:There are many options by PB_TPU_40 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ok, I would definately look into Iridium. But as a note to Exstatica, I can tell you aren't from the Washington Area. When I go from Seattle to Pullman to go back to school I usually spend 3/4 of that 5 hour drive out of cell range. When I go backpacking up in the cascades, usually you're out of cell range. I could do a speil on radio theory and talk about what the terrian is like in the Cascades, but it is more easily said that Cell coverage will never be 100%.

      As for not being able to do anything, if he gets a page though he can alter whatever he's doing to start getting the problem fixed. Such as if he's in the back country, he can find the quickest route out. If he's on Hwy 26 in the middle of nowhere in Eastern Washington, he can turn around, and he'll be back in Seattle in 5 hours max. I have done it in 4, but I was driving at night with no traffic. Bottom line though, if you have no clue somethings wrong, how can you react to fix it. If you know somethings wrong and that you will be needed you can get to a place to help. If you dont know that your presence is need, and you keep taking your time in the mountains, it compounds the problem. It isn't as much as he wouldn't be able to call anyone, as it is, he can immeadiately move and react so he can be in contact.

      And I hear ya man, it drives me nuts going through eastern Washington without reception. I was just lucky my accident occured where there was cell reception. And that was cause I was passing through a town on the highway. Been another 2 miles earlier, I would have had to wait even longer, and most likely I wouldn't be able to kiss my girlfriend goodnight anymore. So believe me, there is no such thing as 100% cell coverage. For an idea of where this was, it was about 30 minutes south of Spokane. So not overly far from a "urban" area.
      So I wouldn't say, well I've never been out of communication for that long, so how can you be? If you live in a highly urban area you wont be, you go someplace for a small vacation, you can easily be out of coverage.

      My 2 cents on the reason for a Sat. pager or phone.

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    7. Re:There are many options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GTFOOH, If they are such an almighty geek that no one can tend the boxen while they are off shagging their hairy pitted other in a tent somewhere then they need a fold up satelite antena and transciever with enough ip bandwidth to get them a character session to the server from a pocket sized computer. Yeah! Emergency kernel rebuilds from the light of a campfire.

      Hey, if the president can take a bike ride without being interupted I think you can too.

      My experience carrying pagers is that the first thing you do is tell your boss how unreliable it is. But you don't tell them that the power switch makes it that way.

    8. Re:There are many options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      um hey, Verizon just called, they want their jokes back.

    9. Re:There are many options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      keyboard? pager?

      I think he needs a proofreader:

      it's is not possessive

      site and it's automated delivery systems

      it's another wonderful testament to our profession showing how people can't communicate to save their lives.

  2. Iridium 9501 Satellite Pager by Motorola by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Informative

    The reason you only got "a couple listings" is because Iridium is pretty much the only game in town, and there's pretty much only one pager. There weren't exactly a lot of devices made for this market. It's no small feat to operate a global voice/data satellite network. There are only a "couple" of other providers (geared more toward government, military, and enterprise, and without "pager" offerings): InMarSat and GlobalStar, for example.

    The Motorola 9501 for Iridium is, as I said, essentially the only satellite pager:

    http://www.iridium.com/product/iri_product-detail. asp?productid=445

    http://shop.infosat.com/pagers/

    http://www.infosat.com/services/iridium/motorola_9 501_pager.htm

    http://www.satwest.com/satellite_pagers_mi9501.htm l

    More...

    Of course, you may be interested in a satellite handset, not strictly a "pager", than can also get email and numeric messages. Keep in mind, though, that all of these satellite devices are subject to normal satellite requirements, e.g., line of sight to the sky. Yes, sometimes they'll "kind of" work in vehicles, wooded areas, etc., and you will get confirmed delivery of messages once you're again in range, but these things aren't exactly set up to work in houses and buildings. You may have no choice but to have a conventional cell phone/pager AND a satellite device for when you're remote, and have your automated systems and/or people try both devices.

    For others in a similar boat, but not quite as remote as the submitter, you may also consider a conventional 2-way or 1.5-way nationwide pager, which provides delivery confirmation and re-attempts if you're temporarily out of range. But if you know you're going to be out of range for a while, you pretty much restricted to something like one of the satellite solutions. Consider a mobile phone. Most providers' digital networks offer email service, numeric "paging", and even true TAP/IXO paging. Just look into a provider that covers your area(s).

    A bit of history on Iridium: Iridium was the satellite phone service launched by Motorola on Sept 23, 1998, when the last satellite of its global constellation was in place. Handset prices (over $3000) and airtime fees (several dollars per minute), as well as attempting to market to ordinary folks doomed the service from the beginning. Motorola decided to end the Iridium service on March 17, 2000, at 11:59pm. After billions were spent on the 66 satellites, and the $1 million per month that it cost Motorola for Boeing operate the satellites, Motorola initiated plans to deorbit and destroy the constellation. Various investor groups attempted to save Iridium, and the Defense Department even provided $72 million to keep the satellites operational (in the face of concerns of debris from the deorbited satellites actually hitting someone on earth, which NASA pinned at 1 in 250). In any event, Iridium Satellite LLC successfully purchased the assets of the $7 billion Motorola Iridium program in November 2000 for a mere $25 million:

    http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0011/16iridium/
    http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0103/29iridium/

    The new Iridium, launched in March 2001, attempts to fix the shortcomings of the original by expanding beyond satellite voice telephone service, into data, video, realtime monitoring, and special applications in markets such as mining, oil/gas, m

    1. Re:Iridium 9501 Satellite Pager by Motorola by oirtemed · · Score: 1
  3. I have one by nother_nix_hacker · · Score: 5, Funny
    Any suggestions?


    Yea, sleep in the server room.
    1. Re:I have one by rovingeyes · · Score: 2, Funny

      Good idea, but still something has to wake him up when the servers are down.

    2. Re:I have one by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 1

      You don't think the burning smell would do it? Or the angry phone calls from customers? Or the investors, for that matter?

    3. Re:I have one by Em+Ellel · · Score: 2, Funny

      Good idea, but still something has to wake him up when the servers are down

      Personally I use the "Red Alert" sounder from Star Trek TNG -- works rather nice for the purpose, and even if I am nowhere near the server room someone runs over to find me in panic. Something about that sound that makes people freak out, especially non-geeks.

      -Em

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    4. Re:I have one by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 1

      Quit, and find a job where you can actually take a vacation and go backpacking, etc. without bringing any communications technology with you?

      I tried that on my last vacation, for the first couple days I was a bit anxious, but after that, I rather enjoyed the fact that I was totally un-reachable and disconnected. I took no communications technology with me whatsoever...

      Nothing spoils a nice vacation like a call from back home...

      N.

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  4. Sigh, here we go again... by halo1982 · · Score: 3, Informative

    OK, so it took me all of three minutes to find what you are looking for.
    First, I googled Satellite Pager and found out that Motorola used to make a pager called the 9501 for well known satellite phone company Iridium. Next, I checked a few of the first links. I found that the Motorola 9501 has been discontinued but originally retailed for $149.95. I also found that the service had a $100 activation fee and was $69 a month, and Iridium still offers it. Ahah! Theres something! So then I clicked on the seventh link down and found out that a company called World COmmunications Center sells refurbished ones for $195. You can buy the pager from them and activate it with Iridium's service. There's a link that says How to Buy on the WCC page that lists their phone numbers, including one in Portland, OR. Close enough for Seattle for ya?
    Now I could probably find more, but I have to be back at work in 20 minutes and don't really feel like more googling. So enjoy, I hope this works for you.
    Ask Slashdot: For When You're Just Too LazyTM
    And oh yeah...FP!

    1. Re:Sigh, here we go again... by RJack-45 · · Score: 0

      Thanks, Marvin!

    2. Re:Sigh, here we go again... by gellenburg · · Score: 2, Funny
      And oh yeah...FP!
      That's right! Fourth post! :-)
    3. Re:Sigh, here we go again... by timeOday · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You can always google for ads, but they never give you the whole story. Much more valuable would be to hear from a slashdotter who has used such a service, and knows how well it works, what the gotchas are, and what it actually ends up costing.

      What would be even better is someone in a similar position who found some solution that's better than a satellite pager, which never occurred to the O.P. Web searches just don't work when you don't understand your problem well enough to reduce it to a few keywords.

      The 'net is a great source of information, but I have learned over time I can often get richer, more personalized information by talking to co-workers and friends, especially if it's a topic of general interest. For a specialist topic like this one, a personal exchange with an expert on usenet or slashdot can be very valuable.

      Web ads, IMHO, are at the bottom of the heap as information sources (along with TV and radio ads).

    4. Re:Sigh, here we go again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WANK!

    5. Re:Sigh, here we go again... by papplegate · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just an opinion, but if you can't find any information using google, and everyone else can, you don't deserve a pager :-)

  5. um... by Stevyn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I googled "satellite pager service" and got this:

    http://www.wcclp.com/index.php/phpmPage/Services_S atellite+Pager+Service/page/6

    if by local to Washington you mean "anywhere on the planet", then this should work.

  6. Sounds like.. by ciroknight · · Score: 1

    ..you're a good candidate for WiMax and VoIP.

    Besides, it's probably cheaper to hire some guy that always knows where you are and will physically come out and find you if something happens.

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  7. Satellite pager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will it run Windows for pagers?

  8. Iridium pager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about an Iridium Pager?

    Call them directly on +1.866.947.4348 or email sales@iridium.com

    I do not work for Iridum.

  9. Holy cow. by Kozz · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Owner of a dot-com, seven servers, and you're the only person with the technical skills? I'd say your options are:
    • Never leave town.
    • Delegate some responsibilities to someone else.
    Entrepreneurs also need to be able to "let go" just a little bit by hiring responsible folks to share the burden of situations like this. If you continue to try doing things all on your own like this, I'm inclined to think you'd have nothing but headaches, followed by burn-out.
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    1. Re:Holy cow. by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Not just entrepreneurs. There are some small companies that expect that their handful of server admins be on call, effectively all the time.

      The options are: don't have a life or find some other job or career.

      If a company can't do without an employee for a weekend, then that company is either in trouble anyway or are inviting trouble.

    2. Re:Holy cow. by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      I own a dot-com and as the only technical person responsible for the 7 servers needed to run the site and it's automated delivery systems, I've got to find out about any problems, before my customers/suppliers do; no matter where I am, especially when I'm: camping in Eastern-Washington; back-country skiing in Whistler; or driving down to Oregon for Mother's Day.


      Sounds like he runs a spamming farm. He fits the profile. heh

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    3. Re:Holy cow. by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Owner of a dot-com, seven servers, and you're the only person with the technical skills? I'd say your options are: * Never leave town. * Delegate some responsibilities to someone else.

      I'd agree with you, but for an entirely different reason than he "should" for his own good...

      This strikes me as a simple matter of practicality. I personally enjoy hiking. I hike places where I can't get a cell signal. In such places, even if I could get a signal, what good would it do me? With up to six hours to get back to town, would knowing my servers just cooked really do me any good if I didn't have someone "back at the ranch" to fix the problem for me in the first place?

      Someone either needs near-perfect uptime, or they don't. If "ASAP" means five minutes or less, the job requires a body, not a pager. If it means the company's sole tech can afford a few hours to get back to civilization, then skip the pager and have fun while out, rather than spending the whole time worrying about getting a page.

    4. Re:Holy cow. by Council · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Sounds like he runs a spamming farm. He fits the profile.

      He does run a spamming farm, as far as I can tell. Here's the site in his info:

      http://www.digitalcandle.com/

      You've developed a high-quality software product and now you need to sell it, but where to begin? DigitalCandle provides the e-commerce mechanism - we'll securely process your customers' credit card, Paypal and purchase order payments for your shareware, with low 10% transaction fees, no minimums and fast payouts.

      And with our Level 2 Internet marketing and search engine submission services, we'll make sure your software is on the top shareware download sites and search engines. From website promotion to press release writing, our comprehensive Level 2 marketing services help shareware developers promote their software to the world.

      So mostly search engine spam.
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    5. Re:Holy cow. by ptbarnett · · Score: 4, Informative
      So mostly search engine spam.

      Look a little further about their "Level 2 Marketing services", at:

      http://www.digitalcandle.com/marketing_info.html

      Your product's marketing campaign includes:

      [...]

      * promotion of your product on the DigitalCandle web site and in our targeted, opt-in e-mail marketing programs.

      In all fairness, a quick search through my spam archive (which is about a year of spam) doesn't yield any hits on "digitalcandle". And a search of news.admin.net-abuse.sightings yields only seven hits.

    6. Re:Holy cow. by poopdeville · · Score: 3, Funny

      I hope he lets us know next time he goes camping. I'd love to submit his news page to the front page.

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    7. Re:Holy cow. by deblau · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I'd say if you're the owner of the company and a single point of failure, and you're still thinking about skiing in the back country or going camping, pretty soon you won't need a new pager, you'll need a new job. Hire someone technical, or don't go on vacations. Yes, that sucks, but if you really want your business to succeed, you have to sacrifice. (Unless you have really rich friends, in which case I've got a business plan...)

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    8. Re:Holy cow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Burn him! Burn the witch!

    9. Re:Holy cow. by Nutria · · Score: 1

      our targeted, opt-in e-mail marketing programs.

      Opt-in e-mail is not spam. Opt-out email is spam.

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    10. Re:Holy cow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like he should employ a web-designer as well as a backup person.

    11. Re:Holy cow. by bergeron76 · · Score: 1

      You're assuming that the fact that he's the only technician is the reason he needs the pager.

      It's likely that he's just an ueber-pimp and all his bitches are paging him for business purposes. The servers are probably low-maintenance and it could be a porn business that he's running.

      He simply needs to send a page back that says something like, "000-911" which means "No Bitch, make that fucker pay you more money."; or "111-911" which may translate to "Yeah baby, take that cash and have my money when I get home from Monaco, y0."

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    12. Re:Holy cow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly.
      >>the only technical person responsible for the 7 servers
      He should mention that to his customers and then watch them flee.

    13. Re:Holy cow. by raju1kabir · · Score: 1
      I personally enjoy hiking. I hike places where I can't get a cell signal. In such places, even if I could get a signal, what good would it do me?

      You'd ssh to your serial console box from your phone (which you can do on any halfway decent phone these days, at least in GSM-land), and reboot the machines or whatever you need to do. If there is a hardware problem and you have no hot standby you could be out of luck, but otherwise, with a little preparation, a cell signal is enough to handle most problems that frequently come up.

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    14. Re:Holy cow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Owner of a dot-com, seven servers, and you're the only person with the technical skills?

      And yet, amazingly, those "technical skills" don't include use of the Google search engine.

      I'd say your options are:

      1. Learn to use Google.
      2. Leave "Ask Slashdot" for the real stumpers, such as "What color shirt should I wear today?"

    15. Re:Holy cow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Opt-in e-mail is not spam. Opt-out email is spam.

      Every spammer alive claims to be opt-in. They buy and sell "opt-in" lists to each other, claiming that everyone on the list has agreed to receive spam from anyone. When I see "opt-in" I assume it's a spammer, because real mailing lists don't feel the need to specify. Double opt-in is the truly honest method, even legit lists don't always use it.

    16. Re:Holy cow. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Speaking of practicality, you're completely ignoring it.

      Suppose he wants to go on a 3-day hiking trip. At any time he's 2 hours from a road where he can get some signal.

      You'd have him either stay home or go for 3 days and ignore his business. Maybe he'd accept two hours of downtime but not 72. Doesn't that seem more practical?

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    17. Re:Holy cow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      man you are retarded.

    18. Re:Holy cow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Double opt-in is the truly honest method

      And only spammers call it "double opt-in".

      The correct term is "confirmed opt-in".

  10. Why would it have to be local? by EvilSS · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mean, it's a satellite pager! Isn't the idea that it works anywhere? A Google search for satellite pagers turns up plenty.

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    1. Re:Why would it have to be local? by DaemonTW · · Score: 1

      Most satellites have a limited footprint/ . By this I mean they have a limited area in which the satellite dish is pointed (in general terms), so buying a service from from outside the footprint of that satellite means it won't work.

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  11. wi-fi for camping by CyberNigma · · Score: 0

    Check and see if the parks you go camping in have wi-fi. I believe that some parks are starting to do that more and more now.. In fact, if you leave your wi-fi on, most of the time you can get a continuous series of connections driving down any major road due to common lack of security :-)

  12. Priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Get your life in order. Either hire someone to
    give you the free time, or realize you're in a
    phase of your life where fun vacations are not an option. Get used to this. Pagers will always fail.
    With a human, you can at least use employement
    to make sure they're at the keyboard.

    I personally recommend you examine your plans
    to provide reliable service to your customers,
    and critically evaluate whether advice from
    slashdot is part of your solution matrix.

    1. Re:Priorities by GregoryKJohnson · · Score: 1

      Solution matrix.

      How... proactively synergistic of you.

    2. Re:Priorities by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Good advice,
      but you forgot
      to hit return
      after the third
      line.

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  13. Don't leave. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you have time for all of these little trips away and vacations if you run a company? I doubt your employees, if they're dedicated, are able to take that kind of time off. Yet you, somehow, can? Doesn't sound like you're very dedicated to it. /Spoken as someone who has never taken a vacation or holiday in their 30 years.

    1. Re:Don't leave. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Spoken as someone who has never taken a vacation or holiday in their 30 years.

      That's your problem.

    2. Re:Don't leave. by Stone316 · · Score: 1

      I know your type, I have to work with you everyday. Your type drives everyone else in the company batty and when you do take a day off everyone rejoices. /Spoken as someone who has to work with someone who has never take a vacation or holiday.

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    3. Re:Don't leave. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I concur in spades! As the CTO and co-founder of a fairly successful technology company, I can attest that successful running of a business _does not_ have to require not having a life. Not having a life leads to quiet, desparate misery, which you take out on the people around you (who are your co-workers and underlings) on a daily basis.

      This obviously doesn't make for very good chemistry, which may explain why it's so difficult for you to find people you can trust enough to take a little freakin' time off! That and the fact that you probably don't trust people by default... which puts you squarely in the only group of people _I_ don't trust by default ;-)

      Get a life... /Spoken as someone who's tried it your way... and gives thanks daily for my new existence

  14. Are you a SPAMMER?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Takes many vacations...*check*

    Is the only one responsible *check*

    MUST maintain 7 servers (e-mail servers?) *check*

    Talks about clients and his "dot-com business *check*

    Question: Are you a SPAMMER?! Cause you sure fit the profile

    1. Re:Are you a SPAMMER?! by kiore · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Good call.

      That would explain the reference to "it's [sic] automated delivery systems" in the question.

      Oh the irony, a spammer asking slashdot for help, and getting it before someone spots the obvious.

    2. Re:Are you a SPAMMER?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bingo! He doesn't go to the woods for enjoyment, he goes to the woods to hide out. ;-)

    3. Re:Are you a SPAMMER?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, that's where he does his PORN shoots.

    4. Re:Are you a SPAMMER?! by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      When spammers take a vacation, isn't usually to Club Fed? I doubt pagers would be an issue in that case.

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    5. Re:Are you a SPAMMER?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  15. Why Local Provider? by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 1

    I can't find anything in the local Seattle, WA area

    It's a satellite phone. Order it from anywhere and it should work, right? That's the point. Any one of those Google results would work. Here's one.

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  16. bankruptcy by poopdeville · · Score: 3, Funny

    This has got to be a problem that the Slashdot community has run into, before. Any suggestions?

    Yes. The dot-com boom ended several years ago. Ditch this company and become a waiter, before you go retroactively bankrupt.

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  17. Lackey. by technos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hire a lackey. Find a guy/gal down at your local LUG. Seattle has lots of underemployed, overqualified geeks at the moment. Show him the ropes.

    Sure, he (please substitute she if appropriate) won't know how to fix everything. But he will call your customers to let them know a technical person *is* on site, ring your cell incessantly till you pick up, put your pager on the wardialer.. And for simple stuff, IE, service didn't come up on restart, or UPS warning some of the batteries just went south, you just saved yourself a trip back to Seattle.

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    1. Re:Lackey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seattle has lots of underemployed, overqualified geeks at the moment.

      That must be why Microsoft and other companies are bemonaning the lack of qualified talent in Washington and want to bring over more guest workers?

    2. Re:Lackey. by myowntrueself · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Hire a lackey. Find a guy/gal down at your local LUG"

      You know, I was just thinking "I am *so* glad I don't work for this guy"

      Anyone who did would wind up with no life at all. So the LUG suggestion is a great one.

      Nothing lost, nothing gained, as they say!

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    3. Re:Lackey. by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      They problem isn't supply. The problem is that they would have to pay what they consider too much to access that supply.

      IOW - they just want cheap labor.

    4. Re:Lackey. by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1
      That must be why Microsoft and other companies are bemonaning the lack of qualified talent in Washington and want to bring over more guest workers?

      Microsoft is bemonaning the lack of H1B talent, not talent per se.

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    5. Re:Lackey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What would they have to pay to get a local hire? I'm a non-local hire and I consider that Microsoft has offered me something really quite decent being a graduate student.

    6. Re:Lackey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No.

      This isn't about outsourcing. This is about bringing in new workers into the States. They typically get paid the same wages (after all, they have to buy the same things we need to live - housing, food, cars, etc).

      The problem is that the supply thinks its qualified for jobs that it is not qualified for.

    7. Re:Lackey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed, as a non-local hire myself from Canada, I believe Microsoft is in fact offering me quite a bit for a developer position with an MSc.

    8. Re:Lackey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tend to believe that. I've got a friend that would work as a temp there doing software testing over the summer and school the rest of the time. Last year he couldn't get any work while he was out there, and he said that they were now requiring C++ knowledge for the positions he used to easily qualify for.

    9. Re:Lackey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're comparing it to being a graduate student, well there you go.

      Rice paddy farmers get paid more than graduate students. C'mon.

    10. Re:Lackey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, find a good lackey. Since unemployed/underemployed people have a penchant for disappearing with your hardware.

    11. Re:Lackey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comment has no correlation with parent's comment. Just thought I'd point that out.

    12. Re:Lackey. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      You can find pretty cheap vacation coverage at your local LUG. I pay a friend $35/day to be on call for me when I'm away, if he's going to be around anyway. Once I had an issue and he handled the initial contact and got ahold of me. An hour of his time, maybe.

      The other ten times he just got a $140 PayPal for a 4-day weekend that he didn't actually have to do anything.

      We're both happy with the arrangement.

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  18. People by Primal_theory · · Score: 0

    It sounds like you need more people, offer some extra server space and bandwidth to somebody who would be willing to watch the server 24/7 and would always know what the status of the server is, and also know what to do to fix it...

    A good candidate, would be to find a guy interested in a Cs:s or HL2DM serv, sell a 24 player serv to him for 10 bux a month and the condition that if the server goes down, he should immeadiately contact somebody...

    I'd be more then willing...

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  19. What good would it be anyway? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And what good does knowing your servers are down when you're out in the boondocks, outside of cell coverage and miles from the nearest POTS jack.

    Either don't go out of range or get someone else to share the responsibility.

  20. You're a jerk by realmolo · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Why don't you just hire someone else to run those things?

    Oh, I bet I know why. You're one of those bosses who owns a small company, and is a control freak who HATES the fact that he has to have employees at all, because everyone but you is an idiot, and it's impossible to train other people to do things exactly as YOU would do them. Because, as everyone knows, your way is the only right way.

    So, yeah, good luck with the satellite pager search.

    1. Re:You're a jerk by cahiha · · Score: 1

      Geez, sounds like YOU have issues.

      Of course, if he starts up a small business, he'd like to be in control: it's his money and his idea to start the business. If it fails, the employees just move on to another job, but he is out hundreds of thousands or millions of his own money. Of course, his way is the right way because he has to live with the consequences of his decisions.

      And, of course, he hates to have employees, because they are a risk, require a payroll, administration, management, and all sorts of other things that have little to do with getting an idea to market. Just because you fill in an application and get hired doesn't make you someone whose technical skill or integrity he can trust. That's something you still have to prove, and a lot of whining isn't going to do it.

    2. Re:You're a jerk by oktokie · · Score: 1

      I am not sure about that.

      Repeat after me.

      Jobs comes and goes, but life, and health and don't.
      It's very unhealthy for both IT person and company to rely on single person for carrying out the firm's IT needs, especially when customers are paying. It's something that customers might get upset when they find out that you operate fly by night.

      Fly by night won't get you very far, and often it gets you to hospital.

      It's easier to hire couple grad student(they are more responsible than college kids and often many have industry experience) to baby the server for $15/hour while you are away and grad student making $$$.

    3. Re:You're a jerk by cahiha · · Score: 1

      Jobs comes and goes, but life, and health and don't.

      Well, maybe to you, your job is just a job. To other people, it's a passion.

      It's very unhealthy for both IT person and company to rely on single person for carrying out the firm's IT needs, especially when customers are paying.

      Or maybe the company delivers such a specialized product or service that the customers are coming specifically to it because of that person.

      Maybe there are small businesses in which people are interchangeable like cogs. But there are many that aren't: they stand and fall with each individual. If those people want to get away once in a while, a satellite pager is still a better choice than being tied to the server 24/7.

  21. Weak Link by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't know about satellite pagers. But if you are the single point of failure for an operation you own, large enough to require 7 servers to operate, I suggest you examine your budget, and maybe your ego. And find room to train an alternate who can relieve you of that duty sometimes. Because your satellite pager might survive your preemption, by a family crisis, or a skiing/camping/driving accident, or a really good night's "sleep". But your system won't survive a chance outage at that unavoidable downtime. If you care about your customers/suppliers, you'll ensure remove your system's 24/7/365 dependence on that part with less than 99.9999% availability.

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  22. Good Solution... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1
    I've got to find out about any problems, before my customers/suppliers do; no matter where I am, especially when I'm: camping in Eastern-Washington; back-country skiing in Whistler; or driving down to Oregon for Mother's Day.

    I know of a good sat pager solution, but it only works while kicking back with some babes in a cigarette boat off Miami. Funny thing.

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  23. Do you believe in backups? by lakeland · · Score: 1

    We back up data onto tapes (or external drives) to ensure that any loss is minor; we have backup hard drives to make our data safer; we even have backup machines so a blown PSU or similar won't seriously affect downtime. Put simply, through redundancy we achieve reliability.

    Now you tell me that you are the only person who is looking after seven different servers? And you think the best solution to this is better communication? Umm, no. The best solution to this is to contract somebody else to act as your backup.

    1. Re:Do you believe in backups? by MoralHazard · · Score: 1

      We back up data onto tapes (or external drives) to ensure that any loss is minor; we have backup hard drives to make our data safer; we even have backup machines so a blown PSU or similar won't seriously affect downtime. Put simply, through redundancy we achieve reliability.

      I really hope you don't think this is enough to guarantee uptime. What happens when your first set of machines get hits with a worm that you haven't patched to, yet? Re-imaging won't help you, there--the worm will probably be back on the new images in a matter of minutes, if it's the height of propagation.

      The constant-uptime thing is very much a product of HOW you achieve reliability--kind of like the difference betwee RAID 0/1, or RAID1/0.

  24. Mileneage might vary by Coeurderoy · · Score: 1

    Beside Iridium you can also try inmarsat wich can be used with a subscription service or a pay as you go. Starting price of the terminal is about 3000$.
    Of course Thuraya might be an attractive option if it wouldn't have the "slight" dissadventage of not working in the US ;-).
    But seriously if you have seven servers and only one tech, and that tech is yourself either your business plan needs a serious rewamp or you should quit your boss :-).
    Or your are working for an assosiation and then you should still try to convince your members to accept a fee increase.
    Because all seven servers will break down at precisely the moment your phone battery dies, and a grizzly is between you and your car.

  25. prioritise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I own a dot-com and as the only technical person responsible for the 7 servers needed to run the site and it's automated delivery systems"

    Ok, then maybe you shouldnt spend all of your time out camping and snowboarding then?

    Just a suggestion.

  26. uh ... by oh_the_humanity · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Any when you get your page saying all your servers are down, what exactly will you do then hundreds of miles away from the NOC?

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    1. Re:uh ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, where I work, we'd know that the alternate data center a few states away had been given our failed data center's IP addresses and was running just fine. Testing DR plans quarterly lets me sleep at night and seem very smug on /.

      Knowing you have an automatic & working DR plan - priceless.

    2. Re:uh ... by oh_the_humanity · · Score: 1

      if he had this setup then he wouldnt need his pager afterall. i guess.

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  27. Why, YES HE IS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why, YES HE IS!

  28. What is the real use here? by Kainaw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While this sounds plausible on the surface, what is the real use? Take the scenario at face value. He's camping in the woods somewhere. The pager goes off in the night. Let's say that he hosting an ecommerce site and the database keeps going down so products aren't showing up on the site. So, he packs up (an hour or so), drives back to Seattle (another 2-3 hours), and then rushes in wired on drive-thru coffee to fix the problem before anyone knows about it. Am I missing something?

    Before you start with the whole "He can tell his IT people to fix the problem," remember that he said he is the only IT person in the company. What's he going to do, call his accountant and talk her through viewing the logs and using vi to edit the config files or something?

    Wait! Maybe he plans to mind-meld with the sat-pager and surf the virtual net back to the server and fight the bugs like in Tron! This guy is cooler than I first thought. I'm in awe.

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    1. Re:What is the real use here? by NoMaster · · Score: 3, Funny
      Maybe he plans to mind-meld with the sat-pager and surf the virtual net back to the server ...
      Won't he need a Sino-Logic 60, Sogo 7 data gloves, and a GPL'd stealth module for that?
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    2. Re:What is the real use here? by poopdeville · · Score: 1

      Or maybe he'll just find some internet connectivity and ssh in.

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    3. Re:What is the real use here? by nacturation · · Score: 1

      ... and a GPL'd stealth module for that?

      Bah! Don't you know that security through obscurity is a lousy method of protection?

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  29. Digitalcandle.com by medgooroo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Erm, either your site isnt really so critical you can drop everything and head from the woods to fix it.. or you can pay a PFY to do it for you? btw - i liked the combination of http://www.digitalcandle.com/asterisk.html and http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2 004-January/032521.html

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    1. Re:Digitalcandle.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      asterisk is really cool and all, but what does it have to do with satellite pagers?

  30. Grizzly situation by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Funny

    you're a good candidate for WiMax and VoIP.

    Yesh, the last time I was in the woods a hundred miles from the nearest road I was amazed what the 802.11 sniffer was pulling in. I guess the grizzly bears use it to track the tastiest hikers or something and get out the word.

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  31. Bragging or Complaining? by Trailwalker · · Score: 2, Insightful
    no matter where I am, especially when I'm: camping in Eastern-Washington; back-country skiing in Whistler; or driving down to Oregon for Mother's Day
    Try a camping trip in Redmond. I'm sure Bill and Steve would be happy to share their expertise with such a hard working dedicated individual.

    <sarcasm> If you are that important, put in a roll-a-way and stay at work.</sarcasm>
    1. Re:Bragging or Complaining? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What kind of Jackass says 'back-country skiing in Whistler' anyway? (Buzzword) + (Sport) + in + (Well known area) = Wow I must be cool *rolley eyes*

    2. Re:Bragging or Complaining? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sarcasm? Why not just have the servers at home if you're an entreprenuer(sp), then you can just roll out of bed and fix them.

    3. Re:Bragging or Complaining? by Jozer99 · · Score: 1

      They are too busy single handedly keeping Microsoft's 325,325 servers online.

  32. Support Contracts, or simplify by SpamapS · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You have two options..

    1) You need to go and find a consulting firm who, for a fee, is willing to be avaialble when you're not. You probably want somebody who is not too big, and local too, so they'll be flexible. If you can work it right, you might even be able to get it where you just have to call them 30+ days in advance and schedule them for when you'll be out of range.

    2) Simplify your operations. Anything that you can't explain in 5 minutes to a reasonably intelligent person is too complex. This will have two benefits. 1- simpler systems will tend not to break as often, as you can see the problems on cursory examination. 2- You can trust somebody who maybe isn't a sysadmin/uebercoder like you, but can handle a bash prompt.

    I've adopted #2 now, but in the past had #1. #2 is _by far_ the better long term solution.

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  33. The real problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ok, so you now know that one of your servers is down. What next? If you need a satellite pager just to get paged about your servers what kind of internet connectivity are you going to have to fix the problem?

    I carry a pager for work as well, but I find that the real problem is not getting the pages but getting internet access. Although I am lucky enough to be in a pager rotation. So I just plan on being near a computer when it's my turn.

  34. SMS on cell phone by ruiner13 · · Score: 1

    Get a cellphone with a wide range of bands, so that you are sufficiently covered no matter where you go. Couple that with worldwide coverage, and you can get SMS or MMS (even email) on your phone. I suspect you already have a phone, so why have another item to lug around?

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    1. Re:SMS on cell phone by connorbd · · Score: 1

      Yeah, cell phones are great in urban and suburban areas, but out in the sticks? Nuh-uh.

    2. Re:SMS on cell phone by andreyw · · Score: 1

      Try Nextel in Illinois - works great in the middle of what is essentially a corn field (www.imsa.edu), but no reception in a bustling metropolis (www.uic.edu)

  35. Are the sats about to be replaced ? by cosmic_0x526179 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One of the spaceflightnow.com links above says...

    A total of 88 satellites were launched beginning in May 1997, but several malfunctioned after arriving in orbit.

    Lockheed Martin Missiles & Space built the satellite platforms and said the craft would operate up to eight years. The Iridium constellation is divided into six groups of satellites circling 421 miles above Earth.


    So... 1997 + 8 years = 2005.

    Are they replacing satellites that have reached EOL ?

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    1. Re:Are the sats about to be replaced ? by mnmn · · Score: 1

      Were the Mars rovers replaced at their EOL?

      I imagine they can be pushed into 2010 if they've survived so far. Coverage will slowly recede during that time, but since its not 100% coverage to begin with, they can still sell 'global' phones and pagers.

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    2. Re:Are the sats about to be replaced ? by jfoust · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are they replacing satellites that have reached EOL ?

      Iridium currently has about a dozen spare satellites in orbit, in addition to the 66 operational spacecraft. While the earliest spacecraft have reached their originally-estimated EOL, the satellite constellation remains quite healthy, and company officials have indicated (based on independent studies) that the existing constellation should remain fully functional until around 2014. This gives the company plenty of time to plan launching replacement satellites, not to mention arranging financing (made easier by the fact that the company is now profitable and is free of the billions of debt the original Iridium rang up during the 1990s.)

      If you're curious, Globalstar, Iridium's main satellite telephony rival, is in a similar situation: its constellation is in good shape, although with more on-orbit failures than Iridium. Globalstar has eight spare spacecraft on the ground they will likely launch in the next few years to supplement their existing constellation and keep it operating into the next decade.

    3. Re:Are the sats about to be replaced ? by boopus · · Score: 1

      Calling Iridium profitable is a very interesting use of the word profitable. While they may be profitable on a month to moth basis, it's only because they are living off the assets that were thrown into space on someone else's dime. Iridium was a huge failure, and the likelyhood that a direct replacement system will be launched is extreemly close to zero.

    4. Re:Are the sats about to be replaced ? by jfoust · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Calling Iridium profitable is a very interesting use of the word profitable.

      It's the same definition of profitability used elsewhere: to first order, the company's revenues exceed their expenses. (Since the company is not public, it is not required to publicly report the magnitude of those profits, so we have to take the company at its word about its status.) It should be noted that the company in question here is Iridium Satellite LLC, which is not the same as Iridium LLC, the company that went into Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in August 1999 after going billions of dollars into debt deploying the system. Iridium Satellite LLC was formed by a group of investors who spent on the order of $25-50 million to purchase the assets of Iridium LLC--including the satellite constellation--and operate them as a new company. It's a bit of a technicality, but it's the nature of capitalism that new companies are often formed out of the ashes of failed ones.

      ...the likelyhood that a direct replacement system will be launched is extreemly close to zero.

      Such skepticism is certainly not unwarranted. However, the probability that Iridium will be able to deploy replacement satellites next decade as the existing satellites fail will depend on a number of factors, including but not limited to: market viability, entrance of new competitors (satellite or terrestrial) into those markets, company cash flow and profitability, the ability to obtain outside financing (investments, loans, etc.), satellite manufacturing costs, satellite launch costs, health of the existing constellation, and deployment schedule requirements. To conclude that that the odds of Iridium deploying a replacement system are "extremely close to zero" implies that you have evaluated these and other factors. Care to share the details of your assessment?

    5. Re:Are the sats about to be replaced ? by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Iridium got the "Bankruptcy Carwash" so many American businesses get. File bankruptcy, start under a new name, and continue as if the business plan wasn't totally fucked from the beginning. Oh yeah, and send the CEO packing with a golden parachute so he's not inconvienienced by his fuckups. That wouldn't be civil.

      Individuals never could do this as easy as businesses can, and now our elected officials have made that even harder. Why not at least level the playing field and require businesses to pay back their debts just like individuals are now required to? Because that "wouldn't be good for business".

      We're all paying for Iridium, we just don't want to admit it.

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    6. Re:Are the sats about to be replaced ? by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1

      This is a REALLY stupid place for you to make that argument. Were it not for the "bankruptcy carwash" we would have several dozen out-of-control multi-ton chunks of steel deorbiting randomly over the next decade or so. "Not so!" you declaim. "Iridium would have deorbited them all!"

      Ah. Right.

      So, we either have no global satellite phone system, or we have FLAMING DEATH. Great choice. In this case, I think option # 3 (the "Bankruptcy Carwash") is a much better choice. Global satellite phones AND no flaming death.

      I agree with your assertion; I just think you've picked a really stupid example, because in this one case, BECAUSE of the vagaries of bankruptcy law, we have a useful piece of technological infrastructure.

    7. Re:Are the sats about to be replaced ? by NateTech · · Score: 1

      I understand your argument that this may have been a bad example, but I think not.

      Look at who benefited the most - the largest customer of Iridium (by far) is the US Government.

      So... the US Government bails out Iridium, ultimately somewhere at taxpayer expense, and then becomes the primary user of the constellation. The founders run away with millions in golden parachutes, and someone winks and nods and says "thank you" over a glass of Scotch and dinner.

      You're arguing that it's a "useful piece of technological infrastructure". Perhaps. How many times have you used Iridium this year?

      Would it still be useful to you if you had to pay the TRUE cost of using it, or is it a nicely subsidized toy paid for by those of us who do NOT use it?

      I personally have used Iridium once, and didn't need it. I was north of the Artic Circle at a fishing camp, and one of the guys forced us to rent a phone. Meanwhile, every other night that week we esaily made telephone patches through an amateur radio and a wire antenna strung in the trees behind the cabin. One was hideously expensive (both directly in per minute operating costs to us and to the taxpayer) the other required about 10 brain cells and a free test, along with a $400 radio and a spool of wire.

      Usually such large government-funded "for the betterment of the people" infrastructure improvements ARE payed for by the government indirectly this way in the U.S., and I'm simply questioning whether or not the rest of us really desire to pay for them this way.

      Telecommunications infrastructure is similar -- sure it was all put in by private companies pre-deregulation but they were hugely government-subsidized.

      I have friends who now own ex-AT&T microwave facilities that are radiation shelters, blast-hardened behemoths who paid pennies on the dollar for them because they're no longer useful to Uncle Sam and the overall telecommunications industry. They're in odd locations and while some good use is coming from them, can we ever really get back the amount of money they was poured into them out of our own pockets? Were they worth it at the time? Those are important historical questions to learn from when looking at yet another bailout like Iridium.

      By examining an older "neat infrastructure" paid for by taxpayers, we can determine the future course of Iridium... it's still going to be space junk someday -- we just need a measuring stick to determine if the constellation was ever worth the COMPLETE costs through it's lifespan to know if the government subsidy and our paying for it was truly worth the costs.

      Looking at AT&T's business numbers today, even after selling off all these cold war assets, they're still swimming in red ink, and their child just purchased them. It's a hard comparison since deregulation is also thrown into that mix, but it's obvious AT&T pre-deregulation couldn't pay for itself in any way other than innovation at AT&T Labs. They used the false profits to continue to extend state of the art. Iridium is a closed system and there's no side-benefits like the overall land-based telecommunications industry, so perhaps there's an argument there that Iridium being "disposable" is even worse an investment in the future than investing in a government-funded land-based infrastructure was 20 years ago.

      It's all very interesting. We'll never figure it out. The people making millions off of all of it certainly aren't going to publicize the true ways they get paid.

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    8. Re:Are the sats about to be replaced ? by dillon_rinker · · Score: 1

      How many times have you used Iridium this year?
      Approximately as many times as I've used each of the bridges over the Mississipi River, the Ohio River, the Colorado River, the Rio Grande, etc. My point, of course, is that simply because I do not personally use a piece of our society's infrastructure doesn't mean it's valueless.

      Were they worth it at the time
      THAT is a key question. Don't know about you, but at one time I knew an awful lot about Windows 3.x I now have millions (billions?) of brain cells storing useless information. Totally worthless. But was it worth it at the time? Totally.

      The people making millions off of all of it certainly aren't going to publicize the true ways they get paid.
      Good point. That's the key point. We poor schmucks down in the trenches doing the actual work of the economy can't know how much the oligarchs are exploiting us. (On the other hand, I'm getting paid to post on slashdot. HAH!)

      I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I think Iridium has been useful. I'll grant that it made a lot of people a lot of money; I'll grant that the US taxpayer ended up footing the bill. A recent interest in the study of history has led me to accept that the lower classes of society will ALWAYS be giving money to the upper classes of society, and the upper classes will control the government. If you think (a) 1776 changed that, or (b) it can ever change, then you're ignoring (a) 225 years of history and (b) 7,000 years of history.

      ON THE PLUS SIDE...the wealthy currently have far more than any ancient emperor could have DREAMED of having, even if he were to conquer the whole of the earth. We poor schmucks may only be permitted to nibble on crumbs that fall from the table, but we are getting better quality crumbs than anyone else in history. Reagan's "trickle-down" economics work; they make the rich FAR richer, and the rest of us SLIGHTLY richer. Exponential growth means that I am now living better than any medieval king ever did. It's poor comfort, but it's some comfort.

    9. Re:Are the sats about to be replaced ? by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Quite a good intelligent response. Thanks.

      I guess I'm just idealistic -- I'd like to think that we have more power than we ever truly exercise as "the masses" because we're too busy/dense/whatever to organize just a little bit more. We're also kept "just happy enough" not to say anything about things like Iridium bailouts. Paying for roads and bridges - sure. Paying for Iridium? Iffy. But you (and I) let it slide because we assume someone's really looking out for our better interests. Of course, they're not... they're looking out for their own interests, just like most (if not all) humans.

      There's no reason we can't demand to not have to pay for the billionaire boy's club's toys. We just don't.

      I agree with your analysis of history, but I hope for a day where we at least SAY something while we're getting bent over on bailing out Corporate America.

      As far as Regan-omics goes... I'm not going to go there really... just a comment or two: Largest deficits EVER (well at least until THIS particular supposedly-"conservative" took office), huge military buildup that ended the Cold War but at a huge cost. (Luckily we won, let's not attempt the same tactic with China or we're thouroughly screwed.)

      From personal experience, my middle-class family was never poorer ever -- than we were under Regan and the recession in the early 1980's. Lots of macaroni and cheese dinners back then. Would prefer a better fiscal plan than that going forward, thanks!

      It especially cracks me up that every so-called conservative since Nixon has effectively raised taxes by running the country into huge debt and then expecting the next Democrat to foot the bill later on with tax increases. Great plan if you can pull it off! What a marketing coup to call that "conservatism"! Amazing, really.

      But that's a discussion for another day. ;-)

      Thanks for the good discussion -- a couple of sub-six-digit slashdotters actually having a real discussion -- they're getting rare around here!

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  36. In the woods wihen the server goes down by Deitiker · · Score: 1

    OK, I give...what exactly does one do when you are in the woods, and your server goes down?

    1. Re:In the woods wihen the server goes down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a mission critical server dies while the CEO is in the woods, can you hear the shareholders scream?

    2. Re:In the woods wihen the server goes down by apathyruiner · · Score: 2, Funny

      OK, I give...what exactly does one do when you are in the woods, and your server goes down?

      If a sysadmin shits in the woods and nobody hears him does it make a sound?

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  37. Just one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...get a life.

  38. RE: Amateur radio. APRS. by fshalor · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You could do it with packet and a tower in your back yard and a few hundred dollars initial investment in gear.

    1. Get your license.
    2. Throw up a tower.
    3. Get a pII 300 for a packet box. plug it into the network. Run nagios. There's some linux scripts for getting nagios to talk to *nearly_any* software. Such as aprs. using X.25 or similar.
    4. Get a laptop for your car and an HF antenna + mobile 100w rig.
    5. Have it send out automated heartbeats every ten minutes w/callsign. And warnings when it's worse.
    6. Have lappy pump juice into a claxon or similar, mounted on your car under the hood.

    Good for a few hundred miles.

    Considering my mom talked with people around the world with 100 watrs all the time using PSK31 (about IM chat speed text data transfer.)

    You could do better with directional antrenna.

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  39. You're all bastards by gregm · · Score: 1

    I'm in roughly the same boat as this guy. I currently have 4 servers on the net that are pretty much mission critical and at least one for the last 8 years or so. Now they just work.... I go for months without the tiniest hiccup. However bad things do happen and they generally seem happen when I'm camping or in another state or whatever.

    If I knew with 100% certainty that I could be contacted if there was a problem I would be able to enjoy my vacations much more. But since I can't I['m always driving around to find cell coverage so I can check my vm which pisses off my wife or I don;t check vm and am worried the whole damn time.

    I tried finding some people to watch over things for me but they're either too stupid, or I find my apps installed on the competition's server a few weeks later. Now granted I live in the middle of a friggin cornfield in Indiana so I don't have access tot eh kind of talent this guy probably has.

    Those of you who're suggesting that he sleep in the server room or hire more help since he manages "7 whole servers" should probably try running something besides Windows on some decent hardware.

    Bah!

    1. Re:You're all bastards by bladesjester · · Score: 2

      I'm glad I don't work for you. I dislike the idea of being thought of as incompetent and/or completely untrustworthy by default.

      Did you ever consider that that might be/have been part of your problem - that only the people with those traits would deal with the flack?

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    2. Re:You're all bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us run real stuff, asshole. Stuff like mainframes and multiple SMP Unix/AIX/Linux boxes. Grow up.

    3. Re:You're all bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You live in Muncie too?

    4. Re:You're all bastards by SaDan · · Score: 1

      Hey, if it's that important, he shouldn't be the only one who knows how to fix things. Putting all yer eggs in one basket, and all that.

      Unless every single process of administering and repairing/restoring machines is in a procedures manual that a bum off the street could follow, having one person responsible for ANY number of mission critical servers is just asking for serious trouble.

    5. Re:You're all bastards by gregm · · Score: 1

      Well you can create comlete sentences.... that's a helluva lot better than most of the people I get.

      Most of the people I deal with can barely read, so no I really don't think I look at most people as incompetent by default... It just seems to work out that way here, but the town where I live is pretty bizare.

    6. Re:You're all bastards by gregm · · Score: 1

      Close... Kokomo

    7. Re:You're all bastards by gregm · · Score: 1

      Really... me too... that's the point I was trying to make about the sleep in the server room comments and the hire another admin, no one is that important comments. I don't have problems very often so I can't justify paying a backup admin. But I would really like to have a 100% reliable way I can be reached no matter what. That would let me relax more when I'm vacation.

    8. Re:You're all bastards by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      Yes, I can create complete sentences.

      I can also keep a network of approximately 120 desktops and 6 or 7 servers up and running. In fact, it's how I worked my way through college (I was the network analyst and lead technician at a fairly large non-profit for four years).

      I will concede the point that it's not easy to get good help (in my case it was largely because I didn't have as much of a say in the hiring process as I should have), but it is possible.

      If nothing else, try looking to the area universities. They will produce at least a few people who know what they are doing and are capable of learning new things. Granted, they can be few and far between, but they are there.

      Most of them can even read =]

      Plus, considering the fact that the job market for new grads is brutal right now, they'd probably be happy to get a gig.

      Here's a free tip - technical questions are important, but some people just memorize answers. Throw something weird at them - a logic problem, asking how many gas stations are in San Francisco, etc - to see how they think.

      Facts can be learned with relative ease. Learning to think takes a bit more effort.

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    9. Re:You're all bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you must have meant "complete sentences" instead of "comlete sentences", and you misspelled "bizarre". So.... are you really one to complain about how people comlete their bizare sentences?

  40. or he can... by wahsapa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hire Me!

    I'll run your servers! I don't eat much and I won't take up much space...

    1. Re:or he can... by madprof · · Score: 1

      Are you a gerbil?

    2. Re:or he can... by Mistlefoot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hiring you might be deemed funny but this seems to be the correct answer.

      I fail to see how, while hiking in the back country, finding out via a pager that there is an issue will help. Not be able to 'call out' with solutions....hey, he's not asking for Satellite phone info.....but Satellite pager info. Knowing that somethings is amiss leads to two results.

      1), Hurredly unhiking out of the back country until you reach a location where you can 'call out' and/or solve the issue.

      2), Stressing about what the outcome of the issue is while you continue to enjoy your hike.

      Neither seem worthwhile to me unless you are the "only person" who can do this job and you trust no one else in your company or employ to handle the task. You really should have someone who can.

    3. Re:or he can... by Nutria · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Neither seem worthwhile to me unless you are the "only person" who can do this job and you trust no one else in your company or employ to handle the task.

      Woe to the company that hires a single-man operation to maintain mission-critical systems.

      If he's the only person who can manage these 7 servers, and gets hit by a bus, a whole lot of people are going to be really pissed off.

      --
      "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
    4. Re:or he can... by Bill+Wong · · Score: 1

      Besides the "being out in the back country" thing, there's also "Fell off a cliff", "Got mauled by a bear", or "Got killed in a pile-up on the Interstate"...

      Seriously, if the ask-/. submitter becomes incapacitated, what's going to happen to the servers? If the submitter is the only person who can fix the servers, the company is fucked!
      Someone needs to be hired! Someone needs to be taught how to fix the damn servers if something happens.

      Oh, and wrt to the original question, hiring is still the answer.
      Even if it's just a third-party monitoring service (Can you say offshore Indian contractor?)
      They can keep trying to contact the submitter, (or, the secondary contact, as per above!!) until they actually reach someone...

    5. Re:or he can... by zCyl · · Score: 1

      Number 1 would probably be the reaction, but the most common occurrence would probably be that he can relax for that week or whatever that he's out of contact, confident that if there WERE a problem, he would know about it. A vacation isn't much of a vacation if you have a nagging question in the back of your mind about whether everything you're responsible for is going okay. So just having the potential to be notified can make you more comfortable when you're not notified.

    6. Re:or he can... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3. Decide not to go back to work ever again and to stay and live in the woods because the credit card database was hacked, from the website you wrote, and stolen and you will hang.

    7. Re:or he can... by Gleep · · Score: 1

      I agree completely. If your business is that short of cash flow then why are you going on vacation? Why are you taking any time off at all?

      Get back to basics. Run your business in a responsible manner, hire an admin or two to run things for you and cut your own pay if you have to. It will pay out much better for you in the long run.

      Sheesh!

      --
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    8. Re:or he can... by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      I am guessing this is his own company, and if he falls off a cliff, I am sure his customers data is the last thing on his mind. Sucks for the customers, who should have looked into their hosting company a little more, instead of going with someone working out of their garage on a business cable modem connection, or whatever this guy has.

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      God is everything science has yet to explain.
    9. Re:or he can... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It greatly depends on what type of work this guy does but I would feel kind of uneasy having to rely on a one man show regardless of his current vacation status. Getting hit by a bus comes to mind here..

    10. Re:or he can... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So just having the potential to be notified can make you more comfortable when you're not notified.

      I feel the exact opposite. The end result and scope of the failure will not change because I know about it. My stress level would though and knowing I can do nothing about it adds even more. I am the network engineer in a 15 person IT department. I get emails almost 24x7 from the IT manager on down to the tier one techs and even end users. When I am no where near a computer with internet access, I shut off my Blackberry. Basically I go into "non-proactive" mode. People can still call me on my cell but once it gets to that point, someone is already working on it and they will probably only need to be walked through something. This way I am not worrying about what I could be doing if I had a computer with internet access in front of me. Everyone has some amount of non-proactive time, I choose mine around the times I could not help anyone anyway.

    11. Re:or he can... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he's the only person who can manage these 7 servers, and gets hit by a bus, a whole lot of people are going to be really pissed off.

      Yeah, like his girlfriend and his family.

    12. Re:or he can... by msuzio · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Original post:

      "I own a dot-com..."

      Presumably if the owner gets hit by a bus, a lot of WTF? is going to go down. I assume he's mission critical because, for all we know, it's him and maybe 2 other people working for the company. I've been there, you really can't have redundancies when it's just less than 10 of you trying to make this company work.

    13. Re:or he can... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup! I own it. Right now, Im the only technical person in the company. I{ve got a couple of other employees, but perform customer interaction. It would certainly suck if I got hit by a bus, but I{d rather go white water kayaking or something. I don{t think I{ll care about my company anymore.

    14. Re:or he can... by Nutria · · Score: 1

      I've been there, you really can't have redundancies when it's just less than 10 of you trying to make this company work.

      Understood. I'm thinking, though, from the POV of the small business who would be the (potential) customer.

      What would the impact to my business be? Possibly it would be Very Bad.

      Thus, if I was Joe Florist who wants a web presense, I'd want to contract with a company that had more than 2 tech people who could manage my system(s).

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    15. Re:or he can... by lilmouse · · Score: 1

      YES!!! Someone else who thinks in terms of mission-critical people getting hit by a bus! I'm not the only one! Thank you!!

      --LWM

    16. Re:or he can... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you call yourself a geek?

      You don't continue the hike. Stop. Find a clear landing. You whip out the lithium battery pack, flat solar cloth charger, ipaq, and flat satellite dish pack (a la DirecTV dishes for cars or the one that's a bar or a two way small dish feed) and link up and solve the problem. Then you resume your hike.

      The only issue here is not your worthless geekiness but why his system that goes down needs his intervention at all. Short of a massive fire (note I said massive) or a DoS. If a disk fails, backup system should go up while the other disk is rebuilt, if it's not already done on the fly. Server crashes, IP management and watchdog processes should pull it up. If it's mission critical, it should be built mission critical already.

      At most, the firewall gets creamed, log in, make a few changes, disperse changes, reboot if needed, go back to hunting sasquatch.

    17. Re:or he can... by phranque_z · · Score: 1

      I live in the mountains 2 hours outside of Denver, Colorado. SMS coverage up here is spotty at best, and there have been several times where I've been paged but have not received it when I've been within 30 minutes of my house and a decent net connection.

      Personally, I'd prefer not having to make sure I'm within cell phone tower range when I'm on call and want to leave my house.

  41. Another Solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not make little wifi or cell repeaters and drop em like breadcrumbs as you go off into the wild blue yonder.

    1. Re:Another Solution by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Unless you're the third and youngest son/daughter, this never works. The birds and wild animals come along and eat them.

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  42. The problem, not the symptom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps you should consider fixing your servers and systems so that they don't go down. Let's consider the potential problems:

    1) Link to net down? Geographically diverse colo

    2) Hardware failure? Redundant server with automatic failover

    3) Fire? See #1

    4) Power outage? Battery backup, autofailover generator, and see #1 above

    5) Application issues or errors? Fix the code.

    None of the above requires a satellite pager or cell phone.

    Let's see...2 web servers, one for production, one for DR. 2 database servers, one for production, one for DR. That's 4. What are the other 3 for? As others have said, sounds like you're a spammer.

  43. Sledgehammer to crack a nut by gjh · · Score: 1

    I have never found myself out of range of GSM anywhere other than Japan (CDMA/WCDMA only) in the last few years.

    I would recommend something like a Nokia 9500. Importantly, get a foreign SIM that will roam across multiple US operators. You will always get a signal from one of them. Bingo - ssh, vnc, web browsing, sms, mms and IM over gsm, gprs and WLAN all in one pocket device.

    Seriously - do you really need satellite? Because you are going to have to carry a bigger battery, a laptop (because the devices themselves are less capable) and a car mounted aerial.

  44. Here's the solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Hire a sysadmin, you lazy rich bastard (j/k:-)
    Apparently you have enough time and money to camp, ski and travel while running a dotcom, so why not help the economy by hiring a skilled junior who will keep the servers healthy when you're away?

    1. Re:Here's the solution by ZackSchil · · Score: 1

      What's gross is that this guy is a known spammer. He's rich because he doesn't have many employees. There's a comment detailing this above in the thread.

  45. about $50000 in WA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd say a new local hire in the Seattle area would expect maybe $50k starting out.

    1. Re:about $50000 in WA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'd say a new local hire in the Seattle area would expect maybe $50k starting out.

      You can survive on $50k in Seattle?

    2. Re:about $50000 in WA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, that's $50k *a year*, not too shabby considering the low taxes.

    3. Re:about $50000 in WA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Low taxes in Seattle?!? What are you on?

  46. Re:oh for gods sake by mustafap · · Score: 1

    Geez,

    how the hell is a score of -1 possible? Are we in the imaginary plane now?

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  47. Reality check by marbux · · Score: 1
    Vast areas of the Pacific Northwest have no cellular coverage whatsoever. It's a different ballgame in states that are 50-plus percent government lands and are well populated with tall mountains and deep canyons that muck with what is for practical purposes line-of-sight communications broadcast technology.

  48. Solving the wrong problem the wrong way by Em+Ellel · · Score: 1

    Simple cheapest solution: hire someone.

    Never mind that satelite pager is still not 100% reliable (nothing is)but what the heck are you going to do when you get that page???? Now you need satelite based data service for your laptop. And how much can you get done at 2400 baud(isn't it the bandwidth cap for irridium?) I am not even mentioning insane latency making ssh nearly impossible??? And what happends when its a hardware issue that you need to call someone? So now you need a satelite phone. You can go on forever like that, spend loads of money and still never have a reliable effective solution.

    Hire someone to be your backup or be forever tied to the server room. Or find a job that understands how to run a business.

    -Em

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  49. Not to be critical... by Hamster+Lover · · Score: 1

    but is not a cardinal rule of business that no one person should be indespensible? And equally so, say you're out having your vacation and something does go wrong and you we're contacted via your satellite pager. How are you going to contact your sysadmin back home and what are you going to do, drive or fly all the way back home? Hours could go by and the customers you want avoid inconveniencing would have to wait for your return before restoration of service.

    You need to invest in a good technical team if it is that important, never mind a pager.

  50. Wrong approach. by Noodlenose · · Score: 1

    The cemeteries are full of people who deem themselves indispensable. If you're not able to leave your pager at home when you're off, you've got the wrong job.

    "Simplify, Simplify". H.D. Thoreau had a point, don't you think?

    NN

  51. When coverage sucks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No fun there? Get a serious cell phone and move to Europe.

  52. Iridium is not global by mnmn · · Score: 2, Informative

    Their global 'coverage' is limited as displayed on the map on their site. For one, Africa is completely uncovered.. so if youre smack dab in the middle of central Africa, theres NO way to communicate back except maybe long range ham radio.

    The polar regions are also barely covered; that was the reason I was looking for a pager in the first place.

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    1. Re:Iridium is not global by Jott42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Globalstar is not global, and misses Africa, but Iridium seems to be global, at least according to their site. And Inmarsat is global, except at the polar regions.

      The exceptions for Iridium seems to be: "The four Restricted Countries where the Iridium phone will not complete a call to the local phone system are: N. Korea, Poland, & Hungary. " (yes, there is only three, but see for yourselves at wwwg.lobalcomsatphone.com)

    2. Re:Iridium is not global by kriston · · Score: 2, Informative

      so if youre smack dab in the middle of central Africa, theres NO way to communicate back except maybe long range ham radio.

      Ahem. Inmarsat has been around for decades and covers all of Africa. There are local agents who can hook you up with rental Inmarsat briefcase-sized communications units. Inmarsat has also had fax, store-and-forward, as well as packet data for a long time and have in recent years been providing high-speed data, too.

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      Kriston

    3. Re:Iridium is not global by ian+mills · · Score: 1

      The Iridium network covers the entire globe. Coverage map would look like this. I'm not sure where you got your coverage map from, Iridium's site doesn't even display a map on their site that I could find. But the Iridium satellites are not in geocentric orbit, they contiunally sweep across the globe, so they in effect have to cover the entire globe or there would be a moving non coverage area.

    4. Re:Iridium is not global by IridiumM · · Score: 1

      Hello, your statement is incorrect. Iridium's satellite constellation consists of 66 active satellites, and twelve additional spares providing COMPLETE global coverage. There are currently only two countries that we are restricted from sending our signal into for licensing reasons: North Korea and north (civil war territories) Sri Lanka. Note: north Sri Lanka has been temporarily unblocked for tsunami victims and aid workers in that region. For additional information please view - http://www.iridium.com/corp/iri_corp-understand.as p

  53. Re: Amateur radio. APRS. by william_lorenz · · Score: 2, Informative

    Interesting idea, but Amateur Radio is restricted to non-commercial use. "The Amateur Radio Service is a voluntary noncommercial communication service, used by qualified persons of any age who are interested in radio technique with a personal aim and without pecuniary interest" (FCC Website).

  54. Am I the only one who notices... by game+kid · · Score: 1

    the story's already out of date? If it was a recent post he'd be skiing in Windows XP.

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  55. Re: Amateur radio. APRS.--NOT LEGAL by kc8jhs · · Score: 3, Informative

    Brilliant solution, and an excellent example of the wide range and advanced nature of many Amateur technologies.

    One problem....

    He's running a business, and well that's not really amateur than is it? What you are proposing is actually illegal.

    Please see part 97 of the FCC rules, specifically section 113, 'Prohibited transmissions'

    FCC rules 97.113

    -Mikey P

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  57. Hmm... by krisamico · · Score: 1

    I don't understand why this has been modded up. Okay, let's say you find a solution that allows you to get a message that your servers are down while you are fishing for salmon in the Yukon. What the hell are you going to do about it? Worry yourself to death? If you can't even call anyone or access your servers while you are out of pocket, what is the point of knowing there is a problem?

    Before I wrap up, I wanted to tell you about this totally sweet thing I found on teh interwebs. You can put stuff into it, and it finds stuff like what you put in!. How cool is that?!!!111!shift-one

  58. What kind of customers do you have? by Zelador · · Score: 1

    Personally, I would *never* do business with a one-man company in any long run deal. If you get sick (or worse), I have no service anymore. It's a bad, bad business decision. As others said: you do not need a satellite pager. You need a staff.

  59. Re: Amateur radio. APRS.--NOT LEGAL by jo7hs2 · · Score: 1

    Thank you KC8JHS for pointing this out so I didn't have to. HAM + BIZ = ILLEGAL. What he might be able to do is increase the range of his cell phone with an external antenna designed for a car or something similar (not sure if a yagi for a cell is illegal, but it would be great) with a ground plane added (stick it to a cookie sheet maybe?) might improve his signal dramatically, provided he was on high ground. -KB3KJN

  60. So you're skiing at Whistler... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    your fancy-assed sat-pager goes off - critical emergency back at the NOC...

    your options:

    drop ski poles, grab pager, read message, hit tree (SPLAT)

    if you don't hit tree or are in lounge and can read your pager message (If you're not spending time with a cute ski bunny on each arm you either need psychiatric help or you may as well buy a cott and sleep in the server room. It's the only action you're gonna get!)

  61. god, just get a skypager already... by xfrosch · · Score: 1

    None of the places you mention as "remote" are more than a couple hundred miles from Seattle. A conventional satellite paging system with a North American footprint should do you fine; fifteen years ago when I had a boss who wanted to be able to get me out of bed wherever I was, he made me carry a SkyPager.

    Sheesh. Kids these days...

  62. GSM availability. by jrboatright · · Score: 1

    Clearly, you don't travel much. Get more than 10 or 15 miles from an interstate highway and there is no GSM coverage. Kansas is bad, Nebraska is impossible. Try this map: http://www.rentcell.com/coverage-map-usa-gsm.htm Canadian GSM coverage is, of course, worse. http://www.canadagsm.com/english/html/coverage/fs_ cov_map.htm If you want digital CDMA coverage, it's not QUITE as bad, but it's not _good_ http://www.rentcell.com/coverage-map-cingular.htm http://www.rentcell.com/coverage-map-airtouch.htm Really, for those who need to travel outside the urban core it's an analog world still. A good yagi cut to the center of the analog cell-phone band, a bag or high power car mounted moble phone, and an account with a carrier with good analog rollover gets you the best coverage in the US, but I can't actually CONNECT at some of my customers sites without the yagi. Sprints analog roam map probebly gives the most accurate summary AMPS coverage available in the US. http://www1.sprintpcs.com/explore/coverage/Natwide Netwk.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1441749&CURRENT_US ER%3C%3EATR_SCID=ECOMM&CURRENT_USER%3C%3EATR_PCode =None&CURRENT_USER%3C%3EATR_cartState=group&bmUID= 1114732276847 Notice all the white areas? No service. Not even analog. Zip. You don't get out much do you?

  63. He spammed /. - genius!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look at all the traffic digitalcandle got got by asking slashdot a question. He IS a spammer!

    1. Create spam company
    2. Get it posted on the front page of slashdot
    4. ...
    5. Profit!

  64. I had one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to have an Iridium pager, when the service wad $70 a month for unlimited pages. I had all my emails (at least, the first 150 characters) forwarded to it. As another poster mentioned they changed the pricing and now unlimited paging is almost twice as much.

    However, I used this thing all over the world, and it performed wonderfully. The paging signal is much stronger than the phone signal, and works well indoors as long as you are not deep inside a large building. I even was able to put it next to the porthole in my cabin on the lower level of a drillship off the coast of Angola. I got my pages perfectly.

    The best thing was I picked up the pagers for $30 on ebay.

  65. Get a staff by RoboRay · · Score: 1

    I'd have to agree with the people who say "You don't need any of this crap... You need a staff."

  66. And how do you fix the servers? by PhunkySchtuff · · Score: 1

    Sure, you may be camping in Eastern-Washington or back-country skiing in Whistler and a satellite pager can tell you that everything's gone pear-shaped back in the server room, but then how do you plan to act on that notice in a timely fashion?
    It's no good being three hours from civilisation only to find that your servers are down and you can't do anything about it =)

  67. Dude... by wik · · Score: 1

    This ain't C. You don't have to end every statement with a semicolon.

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  68. What about hospitals by houghi · · Score: 1

    Never mind the mountains. What happens if you are on a trip, have an accident and are a week in intensive care?

    I know a person who has his own hosting company and several servers and I also know he is NOT available 24/7. He hired another company to do that for him.

    Don't live to work, work to live.

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  69. Option 1 isn't an option by geekotourist · · Score: 1
    He could always stay within an hour or two of his server room. But even then:
    • Does he want the reputation of a guy who thinks his IT business is as important as heart transplant surgery? If you're an on-call surgeon, you have an excuse to leave in the middle of weddings, funerals, dinner-parties, movies, hikes, religious services, heart-to-heart conversations with loved ones, etc. If you're not leaving for life-or-death matters, it generally starts to look rude. (If you're the minion and the alternative is getting fired, then you have an excuse. This guy is the owner. No excuse.)
    • Even if he has no social life whatsoever, he'll eventually be hit by the flu, medical emergencies, jury service selection waits (or depositions or a court case), a car accident, or other events that all the willpower in the world won't get you out of.
    He needs a backup. If I was a potential customer, I wouldn't care how many paths there are to connect to him... carrier pigeon, ham radio, long-range-telepaths... he himself is the potential single point of failure.
    1. Re:Option 1 isn't an option by nacturation · · Score: 1

      Even if he has no social life whatsoever, he'll eventually be hit by the flu, medical emergencies, jury service selection waits (or depositions or a court case)

      I agree with your post in general, but just a comment on the whole jury duty thing. I've been called a few times to show up for jury selection back when I ran a one man show and, while it would have been interesting, I wrote back explaining that in my business if I'm not there, there is no business. The result? A nice letter stating that I'm excused.

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    2. Re:Option 1 isn't an option by Grax · · Score: 1

      When you are getting paid lots of money to make sure the servers are up on time you don't mind looking a little rude. And if you are doing your job well then the servers generally don't go down.

      Weddings: If it is your own you have no excuse to leave. Otherwise you leave quietly.

      Funerals: If it is your own then the servers aren't coming back up anyway. If it is a close relative or loved one you have to stay. Otherwise leave quietly.

      Dinner parties: Explain, apologize, and leave quietly. If they cannot forgive you for it then they aren't your friends anyway.

      Movies: Leave quietly. Download it and watch the rest of it while you finish working on the server.

      Hikes: Hike to somewhere where you can drive back to your servers. Move through the leaves quietly.

      Religious services: Ask everyone to pray for your servers, then leave quietly.

      Heart to heart conversations: Depending on the intensity of the conversation you may be able to explain that you love the other person very much and want to have many more heart to heart conversations and so you need to get the servers up and running so you can keep the clients so you can continue to get paid so you and your loved ones can continue to be well provided for and spend quality time together. If your loved one is an english teacher you will get the run-on sentence lecture. If you are rude about it and it seems that the servers are more important than your loved one then while you are gone they will leave quietly.

      (If you're the minion and the alternative is getting fired, then you have an excuse. This guy is the owner. No excuse.) Getting fired as an owner is called "losing the account". Trust me, it has the same negative effect on the bank balance that getting fired does.

  70. The Best Plan by St.Anne · · Score: 1

    Dude,
    First clone yerself off. Then make sure the "other" you is like indian or something so he won't want a lot of money. Then just have him come cover you when you need to check out. Just make sure he's smarter than this guy...

  71. Another thing that makes ya go hmmm... by MadAnthony02 · · Score: 1

    From the main page, it seems that one of Digital Candle's products is Go!Zilla -an ad blocker and a download manager.

    According to the site GoZilla is Ad-Free.

    Which begs the question - why is Go!Zilla offering companies the chance to advertise with GoZilla. I mean, if the product isn't adware/spyware, how would you advertise with it?

    1. Re:Another thing that makes ya go hmmm... by Ravadill · · Score: 1

      You linked to GoZilla Plus, which as far as a quick read shows, you have to pay for, wheras the free version (when I last used it years ago) had a constantly changing banner ad in it's main window.

  72. OT: star trek sounds, and computer voice by cosmol · · Score: 1
    Anyone know of a linux voice synthesizer that can come close to sounding like the voice of the star trek computer?

    I used to run misterhouse at my old dwelling, I had it set up to do basic alarm functions based on a door switch, and an ibutton for authentication. I had it play clips in the ST computer voice as prompts. "Please enter security authorization", "authorization accepted" etc. I always wanted to find a voice synth that I could just plug in to misterhouse. A man can dream.

    1. Re:OT: star trek sounds, and computer voice by opello · · Score: 1

      I'd imagine you could write Majel Rodenberry and get her to record "the server is down" for a tidy sum :)

    2. Re:OT: star trek sounds, and computer voice by cosmol · · Score: 1
      Stability loss was due to an impact by a sub-space interface pocket

      there are a ton of audio gems like that out there.

      But seriously, misterhouse can use a voice synthesizer (along with speech recognition) to do some really cool stuff. If I could find an approximation of the star trek computer I'd be one happy geek.

  73. What you want is a sat phone by tankd0g · · Score: 1

    The reason you can't find one is that besides you, no one wants a satelite pager. What you want is a satelite phone. I think you'll find that search turns up a few more hits.

  74. Simple get multiple pagers or phones by JTW · · Score: 0

    Get a phone or pager that specializes in that corridor and the areas you vist.

    Like a Verizon phone and a Sprint phone, or whatever.

    Also consider the "less" cheap Sony Ericsson line of phones.. or phones with quote "excellent call quality"

    Call quality usually translates into more signal sensitivty in the same area where other phones just don't pick up a signal.

    I switched from Motorola phone to Sony and went from barely 1 bar of signal to 6 bars in the same exact place.. sacrifice feature bloat for dam reliability.

    And consider analog versus digital roaming features.. as will as GSM coverage.. cell phones look simple.. but they break down into lots of categories and technologies.. GSM is I believe one of the latest signal technologies and isn't widely available outside metro areas.

    I know when I visited Cannon Beach up there a few years ago my "digital" phone switched to "analog" romaing automatically.. and most people who's cell phones didn't work were astonished that in the Washington state area, analog coverage was far far better than digital coverage.. at that time.

    And I've heard other stories about Seattle.. far from being a bastion of high tech.. the services industries surrounding the Microsoft campus tend to be extremely low tech.. they may have transplanted the technies.. but they didn't transplant the infrastructure of the big city up there.. check it out.. what your looking for may not be in newer gadgets.. but actually in older lower tech!

    Tranlate that into looking for quote "world phones" they tend to be big and clunky.. and have tri-band support or more.. and cost alot for few features.. but they work.. and most have SMS paging capabilites or some text paging features of some kind.

    At the very least, have a modem call your number and don't even bother to leave a voice message, the simple fact it logs a call to your phone from a number you know is associated with your server room should alert you so that you know to check the server room.

  75. To make this totally legal ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To make this entirely legal, just get your amateur TX to send you a one-line weather and home-status report on HF every 5 minutes, along the lines of:

    Temp 25 degs, Pres 900 mbar, Humid 35%, Home ABCDEFG...

    where the final string of letters indicates your Home Status. Eg. an 'A' might mean your heating has turned on, 'B' might mean that your curtains have opened, 'C' that your home phone just rang, 'D' that your home pager is beeping, etc etc.

    This is perfectly legal, a very typical application of amateur packet radio for delivering personal data. Note than a beeping noise at home does not constitute business data. :-)

    1. Re:To make this totally legal ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Notice that if this were amateur HF but not a packet radio mode then it would be illegal by FCC rules, because it would constitute unidirectional broadcasting which is specifically prohibited.

      Packet is bidirectional ACK'd communication though, so this doesn't become an issue. Furthermore, in this application the non-broadcast nature is reinforced even more strongly by effecting a point-to-point communication between two different stations owned by the same amateur.

  76. Re:oh for gods sake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's already spelled out for you.

    Starting score: 1.
    Totally off-topic modifier: -2

    If you add those, you get -1.

    Google "basic arithmetic" if you're still confused.

  77. GlobalStar Anyone? by the+cobaltsixty · · Score: 1

    http://www.globalstar.com/

    Look into the GS-1600 tech specs. You'll find it's a reasonable option, since it contains passive (ie., receive only) text paging features. Also, it contains data calling, including IP support via a special number.

    There also another bunch of tech docs. I've been using it for 6 months (for deploying mobile patrol units in the Amazon, using a modified board to run on a embedded PC on a Boat), and they're quite affordable, considering the problem as is.

  78. Go grizzlies! by alienmole · · Score: 1
    Because all seven servers will break down at precisely the moment your phone battery dies, and a grizzly is between you and your car.
    Eating spammers is a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it -- may as well be the grizzlies!
    1. Re:Go grizzlies! by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 1
      Eating spammers is a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it -- may as well be the grizzlies!
      Maybe Lorenzen could re-open his restaurant, and serve up cooked spammers for dinner. Table for one, please...
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  79. Check out his website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He has acquired Bulletproof FTP & Gozilla & some other download software tools. Most of his customers already have the software.
    So if the server goes down for a few hours no big deal. But if it goes down for a couple days, well that is something. Same with his website promotion services...

  80. Good thing he's not in Oz by leonbrooks · · Score: 1

    There are places here where not even satphones work. Dad ran a mining camp just outside Mt Tom Price for a little while, which had a "phone booth", a white square meter painted onto the bare rock upon which one could stand and one's satphone may or may not work (it had good and bad days). One could also stand there with a cellular phone (CDMA or GSM) and some of them would work (the ones that did work, worked more reliably than the satphone).

    The residents reckoned that it was all of the iron ore playing silly buggers with absorption and reflectance but nobody could say for sure. 'Phones simply did not work anywhere else near the campsite.

    I have no idea how they discovered the "booth". I do know that if a real 'phone booth had been available, some wag would have loaded it onto a truck and sent it out there.

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  81. Get real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My first impression is that mcolgin must be lacking something more than a satellite pager. If he wants to be the sole technical resource for critical servers then he has no business going on hikes in the wilderness and such. If he wants to go on hikes, he has no business being the sole technical resource for critical servers. That's not so complicated, is it?

    Where does this lame crap come from? Oh, wait... this is slashdot.

    What's next?

    peenhed asks, "I am the owner of a very chic marketing company for sophisticated supply chain management services. As you can imagine, a lot of my work involves complicated power games. I have a need for a phone system that will locate me by GPS and place calls to the prospect or customer I'm seeing and ask for me, making the person behind the desk my de facto secretary.

    "It doesn't have to be live, and I don't mind priming it with the phone numbers where I expect to be. It could even play a realistic-sounding recording like, 'Excuse me but is Monsieur Peenhed there? Oh, sorry, three more international calls have lit up. Just tell him that we closed the $40 million contract with Lucerne. Thanks! -click-'"

  82. Not Alltel or Suncom by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 1

    I was in an Alltel store recently getting a new phone when a woman walked in and asked if Alltel had any phones that would work in Iraq. The store people said no, so she asked where the nearest Suncom dealer was.

    Welcome to South Carolina.

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  83. No, you do NOT need a pager... by fzammett · · Score: 1

    ...what you need is to slap the crap out of some executives there and get them to hire AT LEAST 1 more person to cover you arse.

    Where I work, we're always hearing about how we need to be sure to properly document and do knowledge transfers to others on our teams just in case the lead gets hit by a bus. As much as we laugh about it, it couldn't be more true, because after the sad eMails go around the office, people will want to know how what the dead guy was responsible for is gonna be kept going.

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  84. GoZilla... by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1
    Oh, this is SOOOOOO RICH! A *SPAMER* trolling Slashdot!

    Anyway, GoZilla is hooked up to a DSL conx (netcraft says): dsl254-055-066.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net

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  85. What good will it do? by jmcmunn · · Score: 1


    What good is it to get a page when you are back country skiing if you are truly the only tech guy there is? If the servers are all down, you can't very well VPN/telnet in (or choose your remote technology) and fix the problem. Bottom line is you're still stuck away from the machines. I'd have to think it would be more cost effective to have a slightly trained person monitor the status, via a normal phone or pager and then leave you a message at your hotel or whatever. Then you can call this person back and walk them through fixing it.

    It seems like the satellite pager is a bit of overkill I guess, at least in my eyes. Just hire an assistant.

  86. cheap help by rufuseddy · · Score: 0

    I live in Renton,WA and am looking for work in that area =) I would need a little training but am willing to work for cheap and work for free while i train! O'Doyle Rules!

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  87. PHB alert! by SaDan · · Score: 1

    This guy ain't tech, he's a PHB!

    If he's the only tech the company has, they're all doomed. I can't wait until he gets hit by a bus, or runs off with a hooker in Las Vegas. What would the company do then?

    The answer to his problem (not his question) is to hire a second person to admin the machines. Both carry an inexpensive pager, and adhere to an "on call" rotation. As long as they both do their rotations, someone should always be able to take care of issues in a timely fashion.

    Amazing.

    Oh, and his site sucks.

  88. I am sure. by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

    He'd be expected to come in from that vacation to fix the problem. After 3 years of having vacations ruined, he'd elected to not even leave the office, even when on vacation.

  89. Oh sure, that pager will help a lot ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when you get hit by a bus. :-)

    What you really need is someone to back you up, so your site doesn't ride entirely on you. Then you can actually have a life.

  90. Ultra mission critical and no watchdogged spares? by Qbertino · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let me get this straight:
    1) You are the only sysop.
    2) You've got 7 servers that must be up 24/7.
    3) And you haven't even a single backupped spare with a watchdog to switch over when things go haywire?

    Sorry, pal, but you're either bullshitting us or you gotta get some basics of your outfit sorted out before thinking of a satellite pager or other exotic stuff - that is not your current problem.

    Having dealt with that, I recommend http://www.iridium.com/ for all your satellite communication needs. They are the satellite phone people. And they have a satellite SMS aswell.

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  91. Keep in mind, by snoig · · Score: 1

    Even the satellite pager does not work everywhere. I had one for two years for a previous job and had problems getting pages in basements of buildings. I also ran into a few instances where my boss paged me but I never recieved it, then sometimes got it a day later.

  92. A more appropriate pager... by zCyl · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh the irony, a spammer asking slashdot for help, and getting it before someone spots the obvious.

    *tries to recover quickly.*

    Hey, original poster, if you're out hiking in a stormy region and looking for a great satellite pager, you can't beat the reception on this model.

  93. Use Iridium together with Skytel (or Nextel, etc) by jgm · · Score: 1

    ...and do it mostly without dups.

    This script or one like it can page your "normal" two-way pager, sense whether you got it, and only send via Iridium if not. You can't rely on Iridium only, esp. in areas with many obstructions, because the network can't ask the pager if the message was received -- that is, it is one way only and therefore less reliable.

    http://homepage.mac.com/jogomu/jgm.org/snpp_iridiu m.html

  94. Opt-what? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Opt-in e-mail is not spam. Opt-out email is spam.

    A lot of opt-out marketers like to defraud their customers, claiming that their opt-out lists are opt-in lists.

  95. Real Opt-in email is not spam, but... by arete · · Score: 1

    Lots of "opt-in" email isn't really opt-in. It means things like "somebody once didn't uncheck a borderline invisible box on a page when we told them they could win an ipod". And when we send them a message that says to unsubscribe it only unsubscribes them from THAT mailing list. Often it means "we spam people and call it opt-in to make you think it's not spam, but we're lying"

    I have no idea about this particular company, of course.

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  96. You've intruded on a live fire zone by Hecatonchires · · Score: 1

    from here



    DARPA funded WolfPack technology is a soda can sized pod, deployed about 1 per sq. km, is designed to replace or supplement similar technologies that currently reside in aircraft. Because of proximity to enemy radios, less power is required to jam signals. Ad-hoc networking and multi-hop routing are used to control and retrieve data from the network, which can also monitor enemy communications in addition to jamming them. The pods are designed to last for about 2 months.


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  97. Re: Amateur radio. APRS.--NOT LEGAL by Baricom · · Score: 1

    I'm not licensed, but I did study for the test at one point. Another prohibited transmission is "messages in codes or ciphers intended to obscure the meaning thereof." That means even if he wasn't a business, SSH is out, right?

  98. Satellite Service by jejesson · · Score: 1


    Larger than a typical pager but several satellite telematics tracking units will work & offer global coverage:

    Google axonn and globalstar (axtracker), stellar and orbcomm (DS-100, ST2500), satamatics and inmarsat.

    All work as I have tested these personally...

    Thanks, Joe KB9LZB

  99. Remote Communications by hisstory+student · · Score: 1

    Globalstar is what you need (plus .. oh, you'll figure that part out on your own.)

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  100. What you going to do once you get the page? by mikehunt · · Score: 1

    Seriously, even if you get your satellite pager, what are you going to do when it goes off? You've already said you are in the boonies somewhere, so how are you going to do anything to solve the problem?

    Like others have said, delegation and not technology is the solution to your problem.

  101. Re: Amateur radio. APRS.--NOT LEGAL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's correct, an encrypted channel is expressly forbidden, but there is an exclusion. Codes and ciphers are allowed for guaranteeing the integrity of a communication to prevent trespass, for example encrypted passwords or keys to allow only one specific person access to a private mailbox.

    That provides a simple means for passing coded information along, because it is impossible in theory to detect the presence of a covert channel operating over a variant authentication mechanism. (Variance is almost mandatory in RF, given the ease of capture and replay.)

    In this application the person would not need to go that far though, since an alert occurring at his home wouuld not normally require military-strength hiding.

  102. SSH over WAP or SMS anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've sometimes been faced with the need to rescue a server from far away: not quite as far from civilisation as the questioner, but maybe an internet cafe in a different country. To solve some of the problems I wrote Anyterm (http://chezphil.org/anyterm/) which provides a terminal on a web page using Javascript, XmlHttpRequest and an Apache module.

    For my next project I'd like to provide something similar on a mobile phone. Of course if you have a hi-tech phone that can run Java programs or whatever it's quite easy (and already done). But I don't, so I want to do it over WAP. The main difficulties are the small screen and keyboard and the absence of XmlHttpRequest-like functionality. Any suggestions (or pointers to existing solutions) would be appreciated!

  103. this guy's a spammer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And this explains his actions. See the other posts

  104. What good is it? by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

    What good is it knowing something is down if there is nothing you can do about it?

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  105. Re: Amateur radio. APRS. by fshalor · · Score: 1

    I actually hadn't thought of that for one major reson. I work for a school and organizations. Since the data we've been looking at transfering has no commercial value is isn't intended on being sold but given to the public domain... that's where I come from.

    Ah well.

    So, at the least, he could order his pizza through the system (which IS allowed.) and a few more people looked up psk31 on their googleboxen.

    On the other hand. If it's that critical, and sat doesn't cover his realm good enough, he *really* needs a backup person or a less adventerous lifestyle.

    A few on call guys I know work in groups of 4, one has the *beeper of DooM* each weekend, and they trade off days through the week. When they have said *beeper of DooM*, they make sure to stick locally.

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  106. i used skytel in costa rica by dindi · · Score: 1

    i used to be responsible for a bunch of servers in Costa Rica and I liked the service Skytel Offered ....

    all i needed (and probably what you need) is to be able to be able to send a mail to a forwarder that puts the lines on your pager ...
    (eg sub:booboo happened on foo.bar.com, text: /dev/hda3 full )

    worked fine .... I hated that thing being full of messages when i went back to the car from my surfing sessions :)

    just be sure to enable it for countries you go (went to florida once with it, and asked the provider to enable it, and it just did not happen )

    also they have traffic, and other news services, but be careful, it annoyed the hell outta me ....

    they gave a tiny motorola pager that used 1 battery for 3 months ... so it is low maintenance .... my only problem was that i did not find a waterproof one as i am kinda outdorsy and happen to submerge myself into rivers and other stuff with full gear and bike :)

    so try skytel.com .... as my server numbers grew to 5 and my business depends on it i'm on the search too now and they are my first target i think ...

    hey it sucks to be the tech of your own business :) YOU have to fix stuff immediately, nut just tell, hey i'm on a holiday, or it's my day off :(
    and call the other tech :)

  107. Thanks from Poster! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, thanks a lot for your comments all. It{s )sorry, I{m in La Paz, Mexico and I can{t figure out where half of the normal symbol keys on on this spanish keyboard, but I{ll pretend they are they in the right place (smile) ). Someone sent in a Python script for coupling a couple of different pager networks to provide coverage in the event of a failure of Iridium (pretty much the only game in town, as I feared. It{s great, I{ve been reading Slashdot since Chips and Dips and I{m constantly amazed at the wealth of knowledge within the community. I really hope to find a solution that will allow me to enjoy my life outside of work, and still have a job at the end of the weekend! Given it{s the year 2005, I{m hardly ever more than 2 hours from an internet connection; getting a paging solution together will be a great way to stay informed of service-outage and hopefully, I can get there and fix it before much business is lost. I{m actually a little suprised by some of the responses however. I had thought there would be a lot more 1-person shows out there, trying to be monetarily successful in their ventures; but sadly good deal of them appear to be paranoid freaks who, only occasionally look up from their cubicles to find out stuff is happening outside. In a futile effort to layout the truth.. I{ve been a shareware author for a number of years, trying to make a few bucks so I can quit my boring corp programming job and do something for myself. Luckily, I caught the end of the dotcom bubble, got some investment money and started a Shareware Payment Processing company for other shareware developers to use when selling their product. It{s worked well and we{ve even discovered how to leverage brand names and owned-websites (RocketDownload.com and Downoholic.com) to help sell other developer{s products. It{s been been a lot of fun and really challenging. I don{t do spamming, never have, never will, after all, haven{t most people gotten an anti-spamming solution that works well (question mark, can{t find it). smile. Who would try to make money like that anymore Anyways, sorry for the ramble. And thanks for the great advice!

  108. Iridium pagers by isatman · · Score: 1

    There is a few other options and one is to just rent the pager when you need it. The pagers can be rented from wcc and the person to talk to is Erin Edick 800 211 2575. They will let you know if its cheeper to purchase or rent.

  109. Searching for a Satellite Pager? by IridiumM · · Score: 1

    As you may know, Iridium pagers are no longer in production. They were one-way (incoming only) pagers. Supply is extremely limited. Infosat may have a limited quantity left in stock - www.infosat.com. Additionally, WCC may have a limited quantity in stock - www.wcclp.com. You may contact either of these Iridium Service Partners directly for additional information including package pricing. No pager replacement is planned however, Iridium Satellite will continue to support new and existing paging subscribers. Global voice, data and two-way SMS are features available via the 9505 and new 9505A portable handsets. The phones retail for approximately $1,500 USD through authorized Iridium Satellite Service Partners. A data kit including an adapter, phone stand and data software CD retails for approximately $200 USD. Cost per minute for both voice and data will be approximately $1.50 USD. You will have a choice of either post-paid or pre-paid service. Please let Iridium Satellite know if this would be a viable alternative and if you have additional questons at sales@iridium.com.