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Lunar 'Lawnmower' Devised for Moon Colonists

moon_unit_alpha writes "Future Moon residents may have to mow the lunar lawn. New Scientist Space reports that a planetary geologist has come up with a way to prevent Moon dust from sticking to space suits, getting into seals and damaging electronic and mechanical equipment - the lunar lawnmower. The mower could be hauled behind a lunar rover, generating microwaves that cause iron particles in the dust to clump together."

190 comments

  1. confused by BushCheney08 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I thought part of the reason we want to go to the moon is to get away from the damage we've done to our own planet. So, the first thing we do when we go up there is start irradiating the ground so the dirt behaves the way we want it to...

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    1. Re:confused by Inkieminstrel · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, imagine all the species whose habitats would be destroyed

    2. Re:confused by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 1

      The moon is dead. You aren't going to be able to break it.

    3. Re:confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a tip, 99% of the time when you're confused it's not because the conclusion is wrong, it's because you're premises are wrong.

    4. Re:confused by buswolley · · Score: 3, Insightful
      We are mankind.

      The dust doesn't give a f**k.

      This actually kills no species. There aren't any.

      Do you drive a car, mow your lawn, or use an electric or gas oven? Survival, at the least, is the most important factor.

      Have you seen the moon? It has been blasted by meteors thousands or millions or billions or trillions of times. Does a metoer have more rights than we? Do you think that moving a bit of dust around compares with those black blasted craters?

      Hell , I say terraform the moon, terraform Mars and Venus and terraform any damn gravity hole you like.

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    5. Re:confused by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      I thought part of the reason we want to go to the moon is to get away from the damage we've done to our own planet.

      Um. No. That's exactly no part of the reason we want to go to the moon. Now if the moon were an ecological paradise you might have something; but the moon is a rock in space. Maybe we could use it in some kind of massive zen garden on the wall of our Dyson sphere or ringworld someday, but I don't think charged moon dirt will make a difference in that case.

    6. Re:confused by SlashAmpersand · · Score: 1

      Hey, just wait til we start drilling for oil up there...

    7. Re:confused by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      If there was oil on the Moon, there'd already be a government-sponsored Halliburton-built space pipeline to low Earth orbit.

      And unless you're dealing with ionizing radiation, you can't "irradiate" the ground.

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    8. Re:confused by HebrewToYou · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Insightful? Where's the Funny moderation...?

      I guess it is insightful, too, if not a bit snarky.

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    9. Re:confused by SlashAmpersand · · Score: 2, Funny

      How do you know our Halliburton Overlords aren't just keeping the pipeline's existence a secret?

    10. Re:confused by VolciMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful
      first thing we do when we go up there is start irradiating the ground so the dirt behaves the way we want it to

      Did I miss something? I have a hard time believing that the microwave generators they're proposing are any more harmful than the unmitigated cosmic radiation hitting the surface every second.

    11. Re:confused by venicebeach · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course if we were up there "mowing the lawn" there would be at least one vulnerable species there...

    12. Re:confused by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Funny

      Assumptions can turn around and bite you in the ass sometimes... how do you know there aren't any extremophiles buried deep in the lunar underground?

    13. Re:confused by ThereCanBeOnlyOne007 · · Score: 0

      Does Netcraft confirm it?

    14. Re:confused by nine-times · · Score: 1
      I thought part of the reason we want to go to the moon is to get away from the damage we've done to our own planet.

      And what made you think such a ridiculous thing? Last time I checked, we hadn't damaged this place so badly that the moon was more habitable.

    15. Re:confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah! What typical human arrogance! Arranging natural parts to serve MAN's purpose! If the lunar dust is abrasive, then that's the way Nature meant it to be and we have no place trying to change it in any form.

      Says me.

    16. Re:confused by JudgeFurious · · Score: 2, Funny

      And THAT is why we need to organize now and start protesting the exploitation of the moon before "the corporations" have a chance to spoil it like they did our planet. Imagine all the potentially helpful species on the moon that will be wiped out if "the corporations" get there without someone keeping an eye on them!

        It's time we have a big Hippy Jam Festival to raise awareness of this issue!

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    17. Re:confused by delong · · Score: 0, Redundant

      how do you know there aren't any extremophiles

      Extremophiles? On the moon? More like absurdspeculationophiles.

    18. Re:confused by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Yeah, well, its not like there is this big yellow star out there irradiating the moon all the time huh? The moon is sterile, for a very obvious reason - it doesn't have an atmosphere or a magnetic field and the sun is a fscking continuous nuclear explosion...

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    19. Re:confused by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      an insightfull comment, and me without any mod points =(

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    20. Re:confused by Agarax · · Score: 1

      Because the Canadians would have destroyed it already in their secret war against the Trilateral Comission and Haliburton.

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    21. Re:confused by nagora · · Score: 1
      Last time I checked, we hadn't damaged this place so badly that the moon was more habitable.

      Well, we're working on that, so it's good to have a backup planned.

      TWW

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    22. Re:confused by jrockway · · Score: 1

      > Last time I checked, we hadn't damaged this place so badly that the moon was more habitable.

      Check again.

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    23. Re:confused by Slashdot+Junky · · Score: 1

      That's what humans do. We are virii only living to destroy. I'd say we should just remain here on Earth, so that we don't kill the rest of the universe.

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    24. Re:confused by sr180 · · Score: 1

      The Parent is exactly right. Im not looking forward to the day we try and colonise the moon, and the Greenies protest against it because we are ruining the Martian Landscape. Apart from us, there is nothing out there that will care, so if its better for us, its a "good thing." Also, if we do happen to fuck it up (like we do everything), we are no worse off.

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    25. Re:confused by buswolley · · Score: 1
      On Mars, perhaps it will be the greens that promote terraforming Mars into a 'green alive planet" and it is the Reds that want to preserve the Martian Landscape.

      This comes from "Red Mars" by Kim Stanely Robinson. A great book.

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    26. Re:confused by Asm-Coder · · Score: 1

      Perfect!

      It's a win-win situation!
      a) We goof up. So what! Try again!
      b) We succeed (after 45 tries) New habitat for life forms, no ddamage to existing life forms, everyone wins!

      I'm all for it!

    27. Re:confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How in the name of all that's holy does someone who posts this sort of tripe get a +3 Karma bonus?

      Jeez!

    28. Re:confused by jrockway · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      > How in the name of all that's holy does someone who posts this sort of tripe get a +3 Karma bonus?
      > Jeez!

      Easy. First, I log in to post -- attaching a real name to your post not only lends credibility, it bumps up your score by a point.

      Second, I pay $5 a year or something to support slashdot. That gives me a "subscriber bonus".

      And third, I post "tripe" that appeals to the slashdot audience -- that give me a "karma bonus".

      If you logged in, you could make it so all of the above things cause my post to lose points, if you wanted. Or you could make me a foe, or something.

      Anyway, thanks for posting a comment that was true gold, and not tripe like mine ^_^

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    29. Re:confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know... I've always been more of an atmosphere person myself.

    30. Re:confused by Isca · · Score: 1

      There's always someone who wouldn't even notice good sarcasm if the man on the moon came up and pushed his face into the green cheese all over the ground.

    31. Re:confused by buswolley · · Score: 1

      I wasn't Sarcastic.

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  2. What does one hug when there are no trees? by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But that would be harming the Moon's environment! What's the emote for rolling eyes?

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    1. Re:What does one hug when there are no trees? by dgatwood · · Score: 2, Funny
      Agreed. Magnetizing moon dust with non-ionizing radiation might eventually cause problems when we have to recover data from all those floppy disks we buried up there.... :-D

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    2. Re:What does one hug when there are no trees? by paRcat · · Score: 1

      What's the emote for rolling eyes?

      I've always wondered that. There are so many times it could be used.

    3. Re:What does one hug when there are no trees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the emote for rolling eyes?

      /rolls eyes

    4. Re:What does one hug when there are no trees? by Deinhard · · Score: 1

      At first I thought =:) but that looks too much like Zippy the Pinhead.

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    5. Re:What does one hug when there are no trees? by iced_773 · · Score: 1


      What's the emote for rolling eyes?

      You don't know what the emote for rolling eyes is? And your name is Guy Smiley?!

      ^_^

    6. Re:What does one hug when there are no trees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That is the Korean/Japanese smiley face emote, not a rolling eyes emote.

    7. Re:What does one hug when there are no trees? by iced_773 · · Score: 1

      But it looks like rolling eyes.

      I think we have a chance here to modify Slashdot culture. Someone call Wikipedia!
      #define ^_^ /me rolls eyes
      users.getUser(862126).SendMessage((char *)this.ecode);
      ;)
    8. Re:What does one hug when there are no trees? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand, large-scale industrial development on the moon might piss off many astronomers, geologists etc. who might not get a chance to do research on a so-far pristine example of a moon subject to asteroid/meteor collisions etc.

    9. Re:What does one hug when there are no trees? by mskfisher · · Score: 1
      What's the emote for rolling eyes?
      I've always used 9_9 , which is a variant of the already-mentioned ^_^ emoticon.
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  3. His company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lawrence Taylor Inc - Innovation for the future in an extraordinarily boring sort of way.

  4. behind? by jasongetsdown · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wouldn't you want it in front of the rover?

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    1. Re:behind? by SunPin · · Score: 1

      Yes, behind. Ever been to a sports complex? Baseball and hockey have similar setups. Dirt/ice smoothing occurs behind the vehicle. So why you're funny is beyond me. Maybe you're Eurotrash.

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    2. Re:behind? by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      This isn't dirt or ice smoothing though. This is more like making a road. Bulldozing and mineclearing are two analogous processes I could think of. In front sounds more logical to me.

    3. Re:behind? by jasongetsdown · · Score: 1

      eurotrash? huh?!

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  5. Lunar "lawnmowers" by thewiz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Has NASA contracted with John Deere to build them?

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    1. Re:Lunar "lawnmowers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Has NASA contracted with John Deere to build them?

      No, but John Deere is working with NASA on building a prototype lunar leafblower for the fall season.

    2. Re:Lunar "lawnmowers" by delong · · Score: 1

      Has NASA contracted with John Deere to build them?

      They should. John Deere would do it for helluva lot cheaper than NASA-native ones. If NASA designs and builds it: $500 million. John Deer: $699. :)

    3. Re:Lunar "lawnmowers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More importantly, have they contracted with Mexico to bring operators along?

    4. Re:Lunar "lawnmowers" by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      You can't buy a John Deere mower for $699. You can buy a John Deere labeled mowered at Home Depot for $1599, but I've not yet found verification that those aren't simply more MTD mowers or similar with JD green painted on them. Real John Deere mowers, the ones that genuinely last a freaking long time, don't bog down in wet grass (or rigolith), and come with actually comfortable seats and a cupholder for your beer cost $3000 or so.

      If you want to go to the moon with an MTD mower that will last one season before the belt brakes, the nylon starter gear is stripped, and that stupid switch in the seat that shuts off the engine if you stand up wears out keeping it from running at all unless you short it, be my guest, but don't come bawling "Houston we have a problem" to me.

    5. Re:Lunar "lawnmowers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More importantly, have they contracted with Mexico to bring operators along?

      Dude, if you put lawnmowers on the moon, the Mexicans will come. Just don't ask them how they got there--and everything will be ok.

  6. Wait for the inevitable by SlashAmpersand · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm waiting for somebody to somehow work this into a "welcome our overlords" comment.

    1. Re:Wait for the inevitable by Spytap · · Score: 1, Redundant

      I, for one, welcome our lunar-lawn-wielding overlords...

    2. Re:Wait for the inevitable by LoneGNUman · · Score: 3, Funny

      I, for one, welcome "whatever TFA is about" overlords...

    3. Re:Wait for the inevitable by buswolley · · Score: 1
      I for one, welcome our terrafroming overlords..

      its about time...

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    4. Re:Wait for the inevitable by Explodicle · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      I, for one, welcome our lunar-lawn-wielding overlords...
      Ok, the joke is old, and that wasn't even a good version of it. Mod parent down! PLEASE!

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    5. Re:Wait for the inevitable by kingerasmus · · Score: 1

      Nice. You got the guy who was making a point about how often the old joke shows up modded down.

  7. cheese? by cryptoz · · Score: 0

    So, instead of cutting chucks out of the moon and send them back here for grating onto our favourite mexican meals, we're just going to grate it ON the moon? With lawm mowers?! Oh dear...

  8. plus by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 5, Funny
    generating microwaves

    plus it makes a kiler scrambled egg, and warms your innards all in one step, all for the low low price of $19.95

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    1. Re:plus by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      You could run this thing over frozen pizzas?

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  9. Lunar kitty litter by digitaldc · · Score: 5, Funny

    "In place of whirling blades, however, the machine would use microwaves to force dust particles to clump together."

    My cat desperately needs one of these.

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    1. Re:Lunar kitty litter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would love it if my cats were forced to clump together.

    2. Re:Lunar kitty litter by demonbug · · Score: 1

      Personally, I prefer the "whirling blades" approach to feline sanitation. I'm not saying microwaves aren't a good backup, but they just don't have the same impact.

    3. Re:Lunar kitty litter by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      Lower the thermostat about 5 degrees.

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    4. Re:Lunar kitty litter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah...

      just go with the whirling blades

  10. in related story - salt water on Mars by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was thinking about sumitting it, but why the hassle - small chance it will get accepted

    about water on Mars. The problem is that temperature and pressure on Mars are oscilating around water triple-point, it means that there is a chance that you will get liquid/ice water at night, but it will vaporize during the day (speaking about non-polar areas, in polar areas water can stay in ice form). Colonists are more likely to settle near equator due to temperature and (maybe) resources. If we consider pressure also, then hellas planitia is very tempting.

    And it looks like there is a workaround for problem with constantly vaporizing water - use salt water instead :)

    I took this piece from http://marsnews.com/

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    1. Re:in related story - salt water on Mars by hackerjoe · · Score: 1
      Colonists are more likely to settle near equator due to temperature
      Sounds dubious to me. The lunar day is about a month long, so they'll get a couple weeks of sun and warmth at the equator, sure... then another couple weeks of pitch-black and freezing temperatures.

      At the poles you get constant sunlight, which seems like a win, even though it's always coming in at a shallow angle.
    2. Re:in related story - salt water on Mars by DJStealth · · Score: 1

      Maybe they need water on the moon.

      When I read the title, I thought they were going to plant grass on the moon or something crazy like that.

    3. Re:in related story - salt water on Mars by jamstar7 · · Score: 1
      Colonists are more likely to settle near equator due to temperature

      Sounds dubious to me. The lunar day is about a month long, so they'll get a couple weeks of sun and warmth at the equator, sure... then another couple weeks of pitch-black and freezing temperatures.

      Actually, parent was talking about where we'd likely settle on Mars. On Luna, we'll probably have to dig into the regolith for our colonies, so sunshine is a moot point, unless we rig a ring of solar collectors around the equator all tied together with superconducting cables or something.

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  11. Damn... by TWX · · Score: 5, Funny

    and I thought I had it bad when I had to go out, pull the lawnmower from the shed, gas it up, work to crank-start it, and then push it around for a half an hour, emptying the bag as necessary.

    So, kids of the future will complain about having to clean up, provision the spacesuit, suit up, run diagnostics on the suit, activate a tracking beacon, depressurize through the airlock, walk/hop over to the seperate hazardous equipment dome, repressurize, run diagnostics on the 'moon mower', perform maintenance if necessary, un-umbilicle the device, push it into the airlock, re-seal the spacesuit and run diagnostics, depressurize, and only then do they get to pushing the thing around the surface for a half an hour...

    Somehow I don't think that, "back in MY day!" stories will work on those kids. *sigh*

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    1. Re:Damn... by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bah, just tell the little crater-rats that you had to do it without a suit!

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    2. Re:Damn... by Gulthek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why is the moon mower stored in a pressurized environment?

    3. Re:Damn... by buswolley · · Score: 2, Insightful
      On the moon kids will STILL want to stay inside and play their video games.

      nothing changes anymore.

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    4. Re:Damn... by buswolley · · Score: 1
      Well if it was commissioned by Nasa then I am sure that the cost+ contracts they give out is the source of this oddity.

      Stupid, inneficient Nasa. Where have your dreams gone?

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    5. Re:Damn... by TWX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      so maintenance can easily be performed upon it? I don't know about you, but I'm annoyed enough working on my car outdoors on this planet, when I'd much rather work on it in a garage where I can control lighting, temperature, and cleanliness of the workspace better than I can exposed...

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    6. Re:Damn... by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      Maintenance could be done in a pressurized dome, sure; but maintaining pressure for an equipment shed seems a waste. It's true moon certified equipment it shouldn't care if it's in a vacuum. In fact a vacuum would preserve it very nicely with no tarnishing, no oxidation, etc.

    7. Re:Damn... by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Video games will be so old by then. They probably be blowing bubbles. (Which will have gotten a bit more complex by then.)

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    8. Re:Damn... by paranode · · Score: 2, Funny

      Awww come on Dad!! I was going to go to Tosche station to pick up some power converters!!

    9. Re:Damn... by Ziviyr · · Score: 1

      And in the snow...

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    10. Re:Damn... by TWX · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That may be true, but I've got to think that as a human, I'd rather increase the amount of survivable space to as much as I could afford or justify. It'd be a way of bringing some kind of feeling of home with me. Seeing as how it would probably be safest to store equipment under some kind of physical shield anyway it may as well be a pressurized environment to make things more comfortable for me.

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    11. Re:Damn... by Tingler · · Score: 1

      ...uphill...

    12. Re:Damn... by Kuciwalker · · Score: 0, Interesting

      So why store it in a separate shed, rather than in a garage attached to the main living quarters?

    13. Re:Damn... by TWX · · Score: 1

      So if it or anything else with its own onboard power system blew up it wouldn't take out the primary habitat. Or, so that devices used out in the lunar environment proper would be less likely to traffic lunar fines into the main living area. Think of it as a detached garage.

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    14. Re:Damn... by cyko500 · · Score: 0

      both ways.

    15. Re:Damn... by 6th+time+lucky · · Score: 1

      nah, just combine it with a nukalar powered roomba and let it go... it may take a while, but it will *eventually* cover the whole surface of the moon.

  12. lawn? by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe I've read "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" too many times, but why would people be spending time on the surface if they did not need too? Wouldn't it make more sense to be spending more time below the surface?

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    1. Re:lawn? by Buddy_DoQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You have to be on the surface preparing for the dig before you could be underground, the number of people and sensitive equipment for a project like that would probably call for full time mowing services. Plus I don't imagine digging into the moon would be the best idea if the dangers of the dust and micro-rock shards is as bad as they say. Clear, Mow(dust), Tarp, Tent, just like camping! That's what I would do on the moon, but IANAA (I am not an astronomer)

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    2. Re:lawn? by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because we don't have nice underground warrens already built there? Will be a lot of work getting things set up. Yeah, eventually the surface area of habitat spaces will be not heavily trafficked. There will still be a lot of equipment and sensors up there.

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    3. Re:lawn? by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Rather than dig in, set up large mylar bubbles (just a few ounces/sq in of pressure inside) and then coat them in an epoxy made up of lunar dust? Mebbe run a current through the stuff (or run a really big lunar mower over it) to fuse the iron in it?

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    4. Re:lawn? by whitehatlurker · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You just need to read "A Fall of Moondust" as well. The dangers of moon dust are well documented there. ;-)

      The nickname of the device is a bit off though. It's a paving machine for the Moon. Why not call it something more appropriate?

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    5. Re:lawn? by swiggidy · · Score: 1

      You can spend all your time underground in your parent's basement , but Dad still has to worry about the lawn.

    6. Re:lawn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's a shovel, Sparky. Let us know when you have a hole big enough for the habitat dome.

  13. Spinoffs by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Funny
    How would it work on Earth for reducing the hazard of annoying junk that gets everywhere, like AOL CDs?

    Meanwhile, if they can manage to grow corn on the Moon, there shouldn't a problem with Moonbase Movie Night.

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  14. Lunar Dust by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    For those of us not that informed about this...can someone please give a brief explanation of what the big deal is with lunar dust? I mean, dust gets into machinery on Earth, and it still works just fine. What are the hazards of it and why is it such a big deal?

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    1. Re:Lunar Dust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moon dust is much smaller, so it gets into things more easily and in larger quantities.

    2. Re:Lunar Dust by xv4n · · Score: 2, Informative
      ...can someone please give a brief explanation of what the big deal is with lunar dust?

      Due the lack of wind and erosion, lunar dust is highly abrasive.

    3. Re:Lunar Dust by isbhod · · Score: 3, Funny

      the dust tends to deteriate the seals on the space suits (such as the gloves, air hose intakes, helmet, etc). This generaly falls on the list of "Things that are bad whilst on the surface of the moon" right next to "Oh my god, spacemonster!"

    4. Re:Lunar Dust by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dust here is mostly things that are or once were alive, carbon-based. Skin cells, hair, that sort of thing. The dust there is mineral, with parts of it being conductive. Besides being more abrasive, the conductivity can really screw with electronics.

    5. Re:Lunar Dust by Peldor · · Score: 1
      It'd probably be more descriptive to call it lunar grit or sand than lunar dust. It's a highly abrasive, very fine, powdery (like dust) material. You don't have the same erosion processes on the moon that you have on Earth, so you get jagged little fragments of rock.

      http://www.wired.com/news/space/0,2697,67110,00.ht ml A Wired article on the subject.

    6. Re:Lunar Dust by fish+waffle · · Score: 4, Informative

      can someone please give a brief explanation of what the big deal is with lunar dust?

      It's very very fine dust; think of how plaster dust manages to get everywhere, even clogging vacuums.

      It's also apparently quite sharp (what with the general lack of erosion up there), and thus it manages to not only get everywhere, but also be irritating when it does. For the google-impaired.

    7. Re:Lunar Dust by JoeQuaker · · Score: 1

      NASA seems to want to have us believe the dust is more deadly than the radiation on the surface of the moon. I found this article quite humorous, enjoy!

      http://www.wired.com/news/space/0,2697,67110,00.ht ml

      The "simulated" dust "sticks" the same way here as they claim in did on the moon. Cinderblock dust, Quickcrete(TM), etc which are high in silica. Read the warning label on Quickcrete(TM), or check out http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/constructionsilica/

    8. Re:Lunar Dust by Billosaur · · Score: 5, Informative
      For background: What a Little Moon Dust Can Do

      The Moonwalkers found that the stuff clung to everything and on contact with the oxygen in the Lunar Module (LM), gave off a smell like gunpowder, due to the lack of normal oxidation on the Moon's surface.

      The stuff was also fine and gritty and was like liquid sandpaper. It would scratch camera lens and wore away at lunar geology equipment. It could also cause fittings to not seat properly, a very important problem if you're counting on the seals on your spacesuit to remain airtight.

      Of course if we're going to have people up there more or less permanently, they're going to working in the stuff every day, and the wear and tear on equipment may lead to some dangerous situations. The last thing an astronaut needs to have happen is to lose suit integrity when he/she is nowhere near shelter.

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    9. Re:Lunar Dust by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      And it smells like gunpowder and some astronauts had an allergic reaction to it.

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    10. Re:Lunar Dust by ToasterofDOOM · · Score: 1

      Machinery does not always work when dust gets in it, or at least not as well. That, combined with the facts that lower gravity allows more dust to be suspended in air and that most of the moon's surface is covered in dust means it will be a much bigger problem. Also, they will often be working with much more intricate machinery, so the problem is compunded. A good Earth example is the battles in North Africa in WW2. Dust in tanks and guns proved to be a nightmare for both sides. A gun is relatively simple machinery, especially the bolt action or semiautomatic rifles of that time, but they still jam and otherwise misbehave. (I know, a gun is a poor example, it requires constant attention, care, and cleaning)

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    11. Re:Lunar Dust by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Stuff sounds like that volcanic dust Mt. St. Helens left all over central Washington state. I rolled a Nova in the median of I-90 and had the worst time trying to get that crap out of the engine. Some of it was magnetic, some stuck from static, and it was all abrasive. Had to do a complete tear down and rebuild of the engine, replacing every bearing and seal. What a pain.

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    12. Re:Lunar Dust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the main problem with lunar dust is that it's proof that evolution is false.

      See here for THE TRUTH

    13. Re:Lunar Dust by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      If you've ever had a backrub with a piece of fibre-glass insulation, it's likely that sort of irritating. Now imagine a couple days in a suit when you can't reach the spot.

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    14. Re:Lunar Dust by HermanAB · · Score: 1

      Yeah and it isn't like the moon machinery would have air filters and carbureters either...

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    15. Re:Lunar Dust by GrungyLotG · · Score: 1

      Perhaps I'm missing something, but how were they smelling it? They would have to breath only stored air, since there would be no other source of it. If there were holes large enough for dust to enter the suit, than air would beable to escape. I don't know much specific-wise about the lunar missions, but could someone clue me in?

    16. Re:Lunar Dust by Lord+Kestrel · · Score: 1

      Probably when they re-entered the lunar lander module after being out on the surface. From what I understand, dust still on the suits worked it's way inside the craft.

    17. Re:Lunar Dust by Bob+of+Dole · · Score: 1

      How'd they know it smelled like gunpowder?

      See! I knew those pictures were fake! There is air on the moon!

  15. ONLY ferrous items... by cheezus_es_lard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unfortunately I can't imagine this working. The moon isn't _entirely_ made up of ferrous metals, so the dust must have some composition that is not ferrous, and therefore is not affected by the magnetic field. Is possible ionization of the other dust molecules enough to keep them out of suspension? I mean, even if the clumps trap some dust, more will be around to float, right?

    1. Re:ONLY ferrous items... by monkeydo · · Score: 2, Informative
      RTFA:

      This is because there are nanometre-sized particles of iron present on nearly every grain of lunar soil and microwaves cause the iron particles to couple together.
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    2. Re:ONLY ferrous items... by skelly33 · · Score: 1

      The magic of the magnetron isn't the magnetic field, it's the microwave radiation - as suggested, check out the article! :-)

    3. Re:ONLY ferrous items... by wildsurf · · Score: 1

      Ferrous Spew-Lure, You're My Hero...

      (ok, it's a stretch.)

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  16. The Moon belongs to America by ettlz · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is just what our astro-men need: a lawnmower for their astro-turf. Will you be among them?

  17. Why Microwave It? by geomon · · Score: 1

    I would be more fun to fry it instead.

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  18. What a relief by external400kdiskette · · Score: 4, Funny

    As an aspiring moon colonist I'd always wondered about this, now I can sleep easy at night with the *final* barrier to space colonisation crumbling in front of my very own slashdot blurred eyes.

  19. Living on the moon would be great by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

    Having to microwave the lawn once a week (or more after it has been raining) seems like a small price to pay to be able to jump 20 feet into the ai--er, I mean space.

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    1. Re:Living on the moon would be great by bcattwoo · · Score: 3, Funny

      I suddenly realized why so many slashdotters find living in space so attractive. To me, the idea of spending 99% of one's time crammed in some spartan, cold moon base does not seem very appealing. On the other hand, it is probably not much different from the average slashdotter's living space, i.e. their mom's basement. When you add in the superhuman-like lifting and jumping abilities ("Look at me now, high school gym teacher!") the allure obviously becomes irresistible.

    2. Re:Living on the moon would be great by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 1

      Not to mention how much more comfortable sitting around would be without gravity. without all that gravity forcing your weight down into an uncomfortable position (sitting in a chair), you'd not end up with a neckache/backache after a while. Of course, a better chair helps too.. but could you imagine zero-g floating around with a laptop infront of you?(I know, moon has gravity, that was more for spacestation living)

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    3. Re:Living on the moon would be great by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      I realized a long time ago that I'd be rather well suited to live in Antartica or other artificial environments. While I do enjoy nature, I don't seem to need large doses of it. A small park with some grass and a few trees would do for me, up on the moon.

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  20. The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth -- by 70% by goldspider · · Score: 3, Funny

    It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)

    Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.

    Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!

    Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.

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  21. Simplest? by cratermoon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a clever idea and all, but wouldn't it be simpler to just throw out some tarps?

    OK, they'd need a bit more than some blue plastic, but really, I'm sure enough lightweight, ultraviolet resistant, tough modern technical fibers material to cover a fair space could easily be taken up for the weight and size of this "lawnmower" idea.

    1. Re:Simplest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've never been camping, have you?

      Its a nice idea, but its not as pratical as you think. The problem isn't so much that the stuff will dust up when stepped or driven on, but that it sticks to *everything* and is very abrasive once it does. Your tarps are going to get lunar dust tracked onto them incedentally at some point, which makes them little more than a stopgap solution. Also your "modern fibers" would have to have to handle the mechanical stress of constantly rubbing against lunar soil as well as huge extermes of radiation and temperature without degrading any time soon. Somehow, I don't think mylar or kevlar is going to cut it. :)

      However, this AC wouldn't be suprised if such a thing gets proposed for something to use right after landing for a small setup area.

      The real win to ionizing areas of lunar soil like this is that, if it works, is it has all kinds of advantages over just about any other solution. It can be easily automated (lunar roomba anyone?), electricity will be practically free (solar panels + no atmosphere), and depending on how long lunar regolith keeps a charge, could be rediculously scaleable. Most importantly, the "moon-dust microwave module" probably wont' weigh that much, is a simple device (open-ended cyclotron), is reusable, and would probably just get attached to whatever vehicle/bot that is headed there anyway.

    2. Re:Simplest? by Gilmoure · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Shipping up tarps expensive. Send machine one time, make all the ash trays you need.

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  22. Dang... by ChePibe · · Score: 2, Funny

    Let's hope it has a key ignition... pulling one of those stupid cords can't be fun in zero-g...

    1. Re:Dang... by Null+Perception · · Score: 1

      its not zero-g the moon has gravity you know

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    2. Re:Dang... by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      Correction: one sixth-g. :)

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    3. Re:Dang... by laugau · · Score: 1

      That is just silly. Without oxygen you can't start a lawnmower...

      Oh, wait. If they mean I have to use one of those old-timey push mowers I will NEVER go to space.

  23. I'm really relieved by Flying+pig · · Score: 1
    To know this problem has been solved. Worrying about the effects of lunar dust getting into lunar colonists' suit seals has been keeping me awake at night for years, not mention worrying about the effects of lunar dust getting into bodily crevices if they need to take a leak during a dust storm. But why not just damp it down with water?

    Oh, apparently I just failed planetary geography 101 there.

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    1. Re:I'm really relieved by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Moon not planet.

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  24. Papers and Trash by turgid · · Score: 1

    Will the astronauts have to put out the papers and the trash as well to get their spendin' cash? Or is that overtime?

  25. Why is the moon dusty in the first place? by squoozer · · Score: 1, Funny

    Where the first few people to walk on the moon that messy?. I suppose the price of a good cleaning service up there is pretty high so I can understand it. There's real potential to make some serious money offering the first lunar cleaning service. Damn, no one steal my idea please.

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  26. Big mistake... by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

    The patent will expire long before there's a market for this product.

  27. 2001 by infinite9 · · Score: 3, Funny

    And can you imagine the blade hitting that monolith?! You thought sprinkler heads were bad!

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    1. Re:2001 by HeliumHigh · · Score: 1

      I like your sig. Good credit is not Wealth


      A lot like '50 Karma _is_ a license to troll'.
      5,00 credit _is_ a license to spend :)

  28. Who the inventor really is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the same guy that thought of the seedless watermelon, so you gotta listen to him.

    Me, I'm just waiting for the infomercials. I HAVE TO KNOW what they're going to offer if I call within the next 10 minutes.

  29. top of the head alternatives... by way2trivial · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1- a satellite(s) that melts the regolith in a X meter wide path as it orbits.. as it cools, it will solidify - a use for SDI 'star wars' technology

    pros- makes the entire surface dust free-- cheap by comparison energy is free out there...
    cons- time consuming- ruins the surface for study by combining asteroids with lunar material-ya gotta do it all or it'll just spread around.

    2- ultrasonically vibrate any surface (suits, domes, locks on the surface) exposed to the regolith at a really high frequency, so that it doesn't stick (ever put dust on a paper and make patterns? by shaking the paper?)

    3- does regolith have any sort of charge? can you spray a suit with negative ions/ apply a battery to the metal to repel material? run a current through the metal to change the degree of attraction?

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    1. Re:top of the head alternatives... by Leadhyena · · Score: 2, Informative
      1 and 2 aren't really viable options... Option 1, in addition to ruining the surface, would take too much energy (which is a problem with the lunar lawnmower as well) and would also not block the lunar winds which are also dusty. Option 2 would actually aggravate the problem: the problem is not that the dust is sticking but rather that the dust is penetrating the surfaces.

      However, you're onto something with Option 3. It turns out that lunar dust accumulates a static charge and could be repelled from smaller objects by using a statically charged coating, and in the case of the lunar winds a Van-Allen like magnetic field could be used to deflect the particles in the wind (which might also provide an interesting power source from auroral-like collision at nodal points in the magnetic field).

      However, I do think though that the best solution is just to coat everything with a stronger version of that teflon nanocoating they use on spill-proof pants... I'm sure they can develop a fabric nowadays that wouldn't be subjected to the same porous problems of the Apollo spacesuits.

    2. Re:top of the head alternatives... by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1
      Option 1, in addition to ruining the surface, would take too much energy (which is a problem with the lunar lawnmower as well) and would also not block the lunar winds which are also dusty

      Lunar... winds? Does that not imply a lunar... atmosphere?

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    3. Re:top of the head alternatives... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

      Instead of silicon dusts, we would get silicon crystals. And who doesn't like silicon crystals :) /joke

  30. You had to ruin it... by pmike_bauer · · Score: 2, Funny
    I thought THE major attractions for life on the moon were:br/>
    1. The only safe place to live is your mom's, lead-lined basement, away from the radiation.
    2. No mowing the lawn

    Now you tell me we'd hafta cultivate the lunar dust? Thanks a lot!
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    1. Re:You had to ruin it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about Whalers on the Moon?

  31. Only a few small problems to overcome.. by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Only a few glitches:
    • A lunar rover is going to move at several feet per second.
    • To melt together the surface grains at the speed of a lunar rover is going to require several megawatts of continuous power.
    • A continuous megawatt is going to require a honkin big magnetron. Like 1000 times bigger than the one in a microwave oven.
    • There's no air up there they say, so it's going to be hard to cool the magnetron. A megawatt radiator/heatsink is going to be mighty big too.
    • Where you gonna get that much power? A megawatt is over 1000 horsepower. Hard to imagine us lugging a big nitro-fueled hemi all that way.
    • Hard to compete with the cleaning power of a low-tech damp rag.
    1. Re:Only a few small problems to overcome.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize that the speed of a lunar rover is probably not a constant. They can 'mow the lawn' slower if they want.

    2. Re:Only a few small problems to overcome.. by vermox · · Score: 0

      To melt together the surface grains at the speed of a lunar rover is going to require several megawatts of continuous power.

      Actually, 1.24 gigawatts are required to melt moon grains, the real problem is that if the pilot speeds up too much the vehicle tends to disappear leaving a trail of scorched moon dust.

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    3. Re:Only a few small problems to overcome.. by mlush · · Score: 2, Interesting
      • A lunar rover is going to move at several feet per second.
      • To melt together the surface grains at the speed of a lunar rover is going to require several megawatts of continuous power.

      If the power requirement is governed by the speed of the rover. Drive _very_ slowly. Better still build a robot do the job.

      later in TFA its says the dust can be fused with solar power which suggests the power requirements are not quite as steep as you suggest.

      "Taylor is not the only person focusing on lunar dust. Alex Freundlich, a physicist at the University of Houston, US, has come up with a different idea. Using simulated moon dust and a vacuum chamber, he has shown that it is possible to melt dust into a solid platform by focusing the Sun's rays through optical fibres."

    4. Re:Only a few small problems to overcome.. by Remedy_man · · Score: 1

      Lets be honest here.

      Why are we worried about cooling with no air, when there is no atmosphere. Anyone with a bit of science knows, that air SUCKS for cooling. The only advantage is has is that there is a LOT of it. But if you do a quick google for the surface temp of the moon you might find this line... "A typical non-polar minimum temperature is -181 C (at the Apollo 15 site)." I think at that temp we don't have to worry about cooling anything. Just can't use it during the day.

      And how are you going to use a "low-tech damp rag" when the high temp of the day is over 100 degree centrigrade. For those who aren't in the know, that is the boiling temperature of water. So good luck on have a damp rag. Or any other bright ideas that involve loose water on the moon.

      Water on the moon will either be frozen or evaporated. You pick which one.

  32. In other news... by manno · · Score: 1

    Future Moon residents have high incidents, of brest, and testicular cancer.

    -manno

    1. Re:In other news... by trongey · · Score: 2, Funny
      Future Moon residents have high incidents, of brest, and testicular cancer.


      Are you referring to cancer in Brest, France or Brest, Belarus?

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    2. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Future Moon residents have high incidents, of brest, and testicular cancer.

      Lookie...you spelled the one you'll never touch wrong.

  33. "Moon dust menace" by KodeJockey · · Score: 5, Funny

    'Lunar lawnmower' to deal with Moon dust menace

    I've felt menaced by Moon Dust for years. Thank God our government's clumping technology will finally put an end to my sleepless nights

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  34. Re: The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth -- by 70 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    M-O-O-N, that spells old joke.

  35. Meanwhile... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...the Russians just use a pencil.

  36. This actually dooms colonization... by SlashAmpersand · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I just know that the Patent Trolls over at Tidy Cat Industries are going to claim this infringes on their patent. Prepare to pay royalties for mowing your lunar lawn...

  37. Remember though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In space, no one can hear you mow...

  38. Use sunshine. by thisissilly · · Score: 1

    Microwaves? Forget that. Just use a giant parbolic solar mirror to melt the moon's surface where you want to settle.

    1. Re:Use sunshine. by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Yes, but the wind would still blow Lunar dust all ov ... oh wait.

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  39. Lunar Lawnmower by joschm0 · · Score: 0

    Is this another example of our tax dollars at work?

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  40. Wunderbar! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's great. We can't even sort out the problems we have on this planet, let alone with each other, and we're wasting valuable resources (and time) on something hypothetical - so that we can go and fuck that up too? How messed up is this? Priorities, people.

    I was born in the wrong time. To the future with me.

  41. Why is it called a "lawn mover" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    To me, this thing should be called a "lunar vacuum cleaner".

    It's job is to get rid of dust, and it operates in a vacuum (well at least more vacuum than on earth)

    There is really nothing resembling a "lawn mover" here.

  42. We'll still have a problem by scholzie · · Score: 1

    This still won't solve the immigrants from the Xenoplxyt slum in Mars city from letting their lunar lawns grow over. First it starts with not mowing, and then it's lunar rovers and landing craft on concrete blocks in front of the habitat.

    Next thing you know they'll be bringing solar powered magnetometers into our schools. Kids these days...

  43. They can send a man to the moon... by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    ...but they can't invent something better to va-poo-rize cat waste.

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  44. "back in MY day!" by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    "Back in MY day we had to make our capsule's carbon dioxide filters out of our own spacesuits, daggnabbit!"

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  45. irradiation by havatchu · · Score: 0, Troll

    The moon has NO atmosphere to speak of. It is constantly bombarded by forces more destructive than microwaves for God's sake. Know what your talking about before you start running your mouth. Just like a left winger....

  46. "impact" by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    [microwaves] just don't have the same impact.

    huh huh huh ... he said "impact" ...

  47. Re: The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth -- by 70 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A HA HA HA. LIBERALS!

  48. HILARIOUS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You /.ers are SO hilarious with all your FUNNY FUNNY FUNNY JOKES! HA HA HA !

    Kill yourselves immediately.

  49. Re:What about the change in the moon's reflection? by GecKo213 · · Score: 1

    If the surface of the moon was fused into a "glassy substance", just imagine the reflection we would get from the moon at night! Talk about Global Warming!

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  50. Re:'Breaking the moon' by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't putting it on the "dark side" hurl the moon toward Earth, assuming an explosion large enough to shake its orbit?

  51. Re: The "Moon": A Ridiculous Liberal Myth -- by 70 by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    Why does this cut&paste job keep getting modded up? I mean I'd be different if like the "In Soviet Russia..." jokes or "In Korea, only Old people..." or any of the myriad of other cookie cutter karma katchers, something new was added every time, but this thing seems like it's on some kind of {if isinsummary("moon") then post(weatherbaloonrant())} script.

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  52. Now that's forward planning by FreakyLefty · · Score: 1

    All he needs is for someone to make lunar lawns and Taylor will make a fortune...

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  53. Mod parent informative! by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    Perhaps parent poster meant it to be a joke, but that's EXACTLY how the microwaves over lunar dust idea came to be.

    Some guy took a pinch of moondust and put it in a microwave oven. It melted. EUREKA!

  54. Nuke the Moon! by tetsuji · · Score: 1

    I think I've just found my new sig.

  55. hold the phone... by skelly33 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the ability to use microwaves to solidify lunar dust into a "glassy substance" sounds much more interesting than merely dust control to me - what about construction? Couldn't the stuff be used to build structural walls and such for habitats rather than effectively patting it down into place on the ground?

    It was long suspected that the dust could be used to make concrete for building, but up to now it had been assumed that we would have to take something to the moon with us in order to mix with the dust to make a good, working cement.

    With this revelation it would seem that there is no need to bring any raw materials with us in order to build basic architectural structures, would it not? Heck, one of the references linked even indicated that a scientist has managed to achieve a similar result using nothing more than focused sunlight (heat).

    It seems to me that all we ought have need of is some sort modular form-casting materials to contain the structural "walls" or what-have-you while the dust is collected and packed into place within the form and then a means of focusing solar energy onto the form to raise temperature levels until such time as the dust fuses together. Remove the form and wallah: moon walls.

    Why is there no mention of this possibility in the article when it seems to be the next natural step in the train of thought?

    1. Re:hold the phone... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      You'd probably be better off liquifying the dust and then foaming it with nitrogen gas, or something like that. Form it into sheets, blocks or whatever shape you need.

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  56. moon *whatter*??? by myowntrueself · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shouldn't this really be called a "Moonraker"?

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  57. EPA? by DavidD_CA · · Score: 1

    > cause iron particles in the dust to clump together

    What does the EPA .. or future EPA .. have to say about this?

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  58. The danger here ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

    is that our equipment and technology is all computer-controlled, and when the Lunar Lawnmower Man decides to take everything over it will be chaos.

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  59. I wish by stoolpigeon · · Score: 1

    unfortunately where I live most homes don't have basements and even if they did, it wouldn't matter. I'm the dad.

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  60. "Mowing the lunar lawn.." by sho-gun · · Score: 2, Funny

    So thats what kids are calling it these days?

  61. Lunar Delinter by gnuorder · · Score: 1

    That article gave me a great idea. I spent a few hours tinkering in the garage and came up with an idea that's going to revolutionize lunar living. And because I use all petrolium products to build my units, I can sell them for much less that the lunar lawn mower. The prototypes will be more expensive but I think I can get the price of the mass produced product down to $12,854.95 a piece. Certainly more practical than a lunar lawnmower. I now present THE LUNAR DELINTER!

    http://images.redial.net/lunardelinter.jpg

  62. I don't get it...Why not the old fashioned way? by L0neW0lf · · Score: 1

    I mean, why can't we just use herds of lunar sheep?

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  63. I think we can sing this one. by CrixelGarten · · Score: 1

    We've got to install microwave mowers. Custom lunar deliver-y-y-y! Forget all these dust particals, get a nice shiny surrrrface!