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New 'Mighty Mouse' Formula Found

mystyc writes to tell us that scientists at Johns Hopkins have improved upon their original "mighty mice" discovery. Teamed with the biotech firm MetaMorphix and pharmaceutical company Wyeth, they have found a new agent that interacts with the muscle-limiting protein myostatin that was able to trigger a 60% increase in muscle size after just two weekly injections.

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  1. Gotta love the scroll wheel. by PopeOptimusPrime · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please move this to the Apple section :P

  2. I dunno ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    think I'll wait 'til they work the bugs out before I go for my injections.

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    1. Re:I dunno ... by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 2, Funny

      We've been helping them along for years, through our use of baited traps that serve only to provide pressure for mice to evolve increased intelligence and manual dexterity in order to remove the cheese without springing the trap. I'd say it's only a matter of time before they discover fire and split the atom.

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  3. Mighty Mouse Theme by DiGG3r · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here I Come to Save the Day!!

    1. Re:Mighty Mouse Theme by Class+Act+Dynamo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dear Mr. Mouse,

      I am writing in regards to your inquiry about compensation for your recent affliction of horrible cancers. I am afraid we must reject any request for compensation. If you will refer back to the release you signed before submitting to our experiments, you will find that you stated that you understood all the risks and possible side effects of the injection and would not hold Johns Hopkins responsible for any adverse effects. In summary, I am sorry about your sickness; and I hope you can see that while this injection will eventually bring about your untimely death, you were able to dispense some mouse justice prior to your illness.

      Sincerely yours,

      G. Figley Whitesides
      Attorney at Law

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  4. Investigation... by daddyrief · · Score: 4, Funny

    Congress better look into this. If baseball players can't do this, mice shouldn't be able to either.

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    1. Re:Investigation... by Quiky · · Score: 2, Funny

      They said MIGHTY, not MICKEY.

  5. MLB by whoop · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wonder how many baseball players read slashdot?

    1. Re:MLB by IdleTime · · Score: 4, Funny

      They can read???

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    2. Re:MLB by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wonder if the governor of California reads slashdot.

      And then there's all the spam - "Proven formula. mix this new M1GHT7 M0U53 formula with V14GR4 and really amaze her! 60% larger."

    3. Re:MLB by Hey+Pope+Felcher+.+. · · Score: 3, Funny

      . . . I am a baseball player and I take persenal ofense at this slur on us. just cause we can run and not fall other and dont wear glas's does not meen we dont have the intelligense to read and learn and become an actif member of the geek crowd.[br][br]Your just another hater. keep reading them books and see how many women you can get buzy with.

  6. new market? by mr_stinky_britches · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So will this only be used for already sick people, or are we going to have to test for it in sports in the next decade?

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    1. Re:new market? by mr_stinky_britches · · Score: 2, Funny

      i was asking a serious question :\ why did this get modded funny?

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    2. Re:new market? by Ubaid · · Score: 2, Funny

      In other news:

      Johns Hopkins Wrestling Team wins national championships.

  7. What happened to the heart? by BerntB · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Increased heart size is dangerous, right? This increase all muscles, so...

    What are the effects on the heart?

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    1. Re:What happened to the heart? by Laebshade · · Score: 2, Funny

      but.. but... it worked for the Grinch!

    2. Re:What happened to the heart? by inputsprocket · · Score: 3, Informative

      It only affects striated muscle. Heart muscle is smooth and so is unaffected.

  8. Give some to the depressed hamsters? by pedantic+bore · · Score: 4, Funny
    Wait, let me patent that idea, first.

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    1. Re:Give some to the depressed hamsters? by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 2, Funny

      But how would that affect their ability to float? If they become depressed again won't they drown.

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  9. Keeping Score by Nerdposeur · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, for the obligatory recap, we're looking forward to: Mice that are really strong, don't age (http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/ 18/2133229&tid=214&tid=14), can regrow damaged limbs (http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/ 01/0035245&tid=99&tid=14), and have no fear (http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/ 18/0644240&tid=191&tid=14).

    I, for one, am investing in explosive mousetraps.

    1. Re:Keeping Score by ViX44 · · Score: 4, Funny

      They regenerate, and you want to blow them into pieces? Cut up some starfish while you're at it.

    2. Re:Keeping Score by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Funny

      and the rodents are organising in attack squadrons.

      We're doomed!

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    3. Re:Keeping Score by penguinoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't forget about piloting millitary airplanes. Screw better mousetraps -- I need a anti-rat missiles.

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  10. Re:I, for one... by jzeejunk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Talking of developing it for humans, a similar story was reported earlier on slashdot - http://science.slashdot.org/science/04/06/24/12342 50.shtml?tid=134&tid=191
    It is a very good case to study effects of no myostatin on humans.

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  11. Abstract / free full paper link by Frangible · · Score: 5, Informative
    ABSTRACT: Myostatin is a secreted protein that normally functions as a negative regulator of muscle growth. Agents capable of blocking the myostatin signaling pathway could have important applications for treating human muscle degenerative diseases as well as for enhancing livestock production. Here we describe a potent myostatin inhibitor, a soluble form of the activin type IIB receptor (ACVR2B), which can cause dramatic increases in muscle mass (up to 60% in 2 weeks) when injected into wild-type mice. Furthermore, we show that the effect of the soluble receptor is attenuated but not eliminated in Mstn(-/-) mice, suggesting that at least one other ligand in addition to myostatin normally functions to limit muscle growth. Finally, we provide genetic evidence that these ligands signal through both activin type II receptors, ACVR2 and ACVR2B, to regulate muscle growth in vivo.

    Full journal article (PDF)

  12. Athletes... nature's willing guinea pigs. by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful

    are we going to have to test for it in sports in the next decade?

    Decade? I give it months.

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    1. Re:Athletes... nature's willing guinea pigs. by chemisus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      months?

      nah, id give it... how long did the article say the forumla takes? 2 weeks?

      just take a picture of baseball players now, and compare it in 2 weeks. im sure a 66% increase in muscles would be quite noticable.

    2. Re:Athletes... nature's willing guinea pigs. by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Spammers will be updating their "mighty muscle" emails within days!

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  13. normal people by rayde · · Score: 5, Interesting
    so my question is this... if something like this is proven to be safe in humans, allowing large increases in muscle growth, will it ever be available to the public? if not... why not?

    Steroids have long been banned in sports because they can have catastrauphic side-effects, and pro atheletes are often seen as role models. however, if a product came out that could dramatically strengthen humans, without nasty side-effects, for what reason shouldn't the average person be able to go out and in two weeks have significantly larger muscles? should it be regulated? and if so, why?

    there are ethical implications here... the haves vs. the have-nots... those who can afford to increase their muscle mass using the products would perhaps become a superior segment of the human race. imagine a scenario where western countries and their super-citizens gain a distinct physical advantage over the less wealthy countries.

    yet think of the productivity gains that would be possible in manufacturing, construction, or other physically intensive occupations. strengthening your workers could bring huge advantages.

    it's a very interesting issue, i'm sure one that we'll see popping up again in the future.

    1. Re:normal people by TheTerrorized · · Score: 3, Interesting

      AFAIK, the FDA does not approve drugs that improve regular people, just drugs that can fix problems already there. Many college students take ritalin to allow them to focus with low side-effects but they still cannot get it without a prescription.

    2. Re:normal people by mangamuscle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You need to recheck again your facts. The reason steroids are banned is not because they have side effects, ask your doctor and he will tell you that all medicines (including) drugs have side effects. So why steroids in particular are illegal and (i.e.) viagra is not? 1) The soviets block was using it and winning medals, so it was easier to call it immoral and unfair using steroids. 2) Nixon started the war on drugs, adding steroids to the list was the next natural thing to do, nowadays 'roids are a multi-million dollar a year industry. 3) For a fascist goverment it is better to have fat citizens, athletic citizens have the scary custom of flexing their political muscles against the goverment.

  14. No miracle pill here by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well the number one through three issues I can think of is whether or not it increases tendon and ligament strength. I'm pretty sure if all it does is block myostatin that it doesn't do either. If not, then you run the risk of having muscles way too strong for your joints.

    Of course you run this same risk if you leap right into weight lifting with low-rep, heavy-weight work without spending the time to strengthen these joints with high-rep, low-weight work first.

    On the other hand, since this almost certainly does nothing for neuromuscular response, you'll also end up with a lot of large but mostly useless muscle mass that's untappable for you.

    In other words, don't expect this to substitute for working out for anyone who's not trying to stave off the decay of their existing muscles.

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    1. Re:No miracle pill here by bcrowell · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who says people want to increase muscle mass in order to be strong? I suspect a lot of guys would like to have more muscle mass just because they think it would look good.

  15. The End of Roadkill by dogwelder99 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Pretty soon, running over rodents on the street will just make them mad enough to chase you down and fight back. Better invest in a Hummer.

  16. 3rd Leg by PokerAndroid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does it work on that all important muscle....the 3rd leg?

  17. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Interesting

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  18. I know it's funny... by Cherita+Chen · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I know the title of this article is kind of funny, and there are a lot of funny posts on this thread, however; if you are interested in learning a little more about this, and wish to see a different perspective on the issue (such as practical appliactions, etc...) Check out the following link.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6065

    Seeing that the source for the main article is currently ./'d, you should have time to have a gander :-)

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  19. Wrong by Seoulstriker · · Score: 4, Informative

    Heart muscle is also striated. However, the cardiac myocytes are not multi-nucleated and the pattern is more zig-zaggy. Nevertheless, if the cardiac myocytes were not striated, the muscle just wouldn't have enough force to contract and propel blood through the chambers and the peripheral vasculature.

    I'm still waiting on the published research...

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  20. Superficial vs practical by UnclePow2223 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Aside from the obvious jokes that can be made of this news and the military applications of a super soldier or sports being taken to a new (and unnecesary level) it's stories like this that give some hope to families like mine that have a loved one diagnosed with muscular dystrophy. My nephew, only 2 years old, has already been diagnosed with this dibilitating disorder. People with MD usually don't live far past their 20s or 30s. So I for one am anxious to see what human testing would yeild and the side effects. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't laugh at some more superficial suggestions for its application....

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  21. Note For Humans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The effects are naturally occuring - albeit in a very small population of humans. Usually we suppress muscle growth - probably because too much is hard on the circulatory system. Not only that, but you only need so much muscle to hunt and all that jazz to stay alive. When we were evolving, we probably got this gene so we didn't overproduce muscle and raise our energy costs.

    You may recall the german superbaby who was born with two defective copies of the inhibiting gene - he has twice the muscle mass and half the body fat of other kids his age - link:

    http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20040626-060 429-4116r.htm

  22. The end of brawn above brains? by Julian+Morrison · · Score: 2, Funny

    Imagine. You've spent most of your life working to perfect your body. You've suffered boredom, pain and injuries. For this, you get all the good girls, and the admiration of your peers. Then some pencil-neck geek injects himself with myostatin blocker, and in a month he's beating you at arm-wrestling. The dungeons and dragons club actually do look like steel-thewed barbarians, if barbarians had acne.

    Oh, the dilution of kudos! How the mighty are fallen...

  23. "Enlarged" heart - depends... by jpellino · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ventricular Hypertrophy - in a sedentary person - is an indication of the (usually left) vetricle working too hard to overcome narrowed atreries, and increasing its mass for that reason only.

    Many athletes have "enlarged" hearts - simply because the heart is working harder for the right reasons. For years world class athletes were being denied decent health insurance rates, because a chest x-ray would show a larger than normal heart, and MDs knew of only one reason for it - the bad one. It was in large part Kenneth Cooper's study of aerobic exercises for the Air Force that started the large school of info on the actual effects of exercise on the cardiovascular system.

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  24. A better moose trap by Belseth · · Score: 2, Funny

    Damn, that explains why the mouse trap looks like a pretzel. Time to break out the bear traps and a wheel of cheese.

  25. Seriously by Chris+Johnson · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a friend with two children doomed to die of muscular dystrophy, so I have to wonder if this might be a relevant breakthrough in that area...

  26. Re:No Problemo? by dallasmsl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In response to your posting, bodybuilders have NOT been found to have less myostatin than non-weightlifters. Not ONE scientific report will back up your statement. In fact, in most bodybuilders, myostatin has been working just fine at keeping them from becoming absolutely huge. No bodybuilder just looks at weights and becomes muscular. Unlike these mice, bodybuilders train on a daily basis. These mice gained muscle mass (and muscle cells!) without any additional exercise! As for your inference that the child in Germany will have heart problems, the doctors do NOT know this. In fact, they do know that the parents don't have problems so their warning about the child is unfounded.