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Wii Aches - Couch Potatoes Working it Up
Genocaust writes "While the new controller on the Wii is proving to be a success, it's turning out to be more effort than some die-hard couch potatoes bargained for. The Wall Street Journal reports on the newest workout regime for nerds." From the article: "In Rochester, Minn., Jeremy Scherer and his wife spent three hours playing tennis and bowling, two of the games included with the Wii. Mr. Scherer says he managed to improve his scores — at the cost of shoulders and back that were still aching the next day. 'I was using muscles I hadn't used in a while,' says Mr. Scherer, a computer programmer who describes himself as 'not very active.' Mr. Scherer is vowing nightly 'Wii workouts' to get in better shape." "Bunnies Don't Know What To Do With Cows", in Rayman, is another guaranteed way to get your arm aching. Cows are heavy, and it takes a lot of energy to throw them.
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Honestly, with the way the control scheme works, you CAN be a couch patatoe and play the Wii just fine.
:) When you really get into it is when the workout starts, but its also when the fun begins.
Its just boring
Maybe this could be a solution for Bovine America. If only they could come up with a video game controller that removed excess complacency and enabled one to recognize propaganda, then we might even go back to having a free country again!
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before they make a actual exercise themed game?
Imagine this as the start of a trend -- play video games and still get in shape.
Can you hearthe sound of lawsuits approaching ?
Maybe it'd be worth coming out with an alternative controller, something you'd need to put your whole body into in order to operate it. Say, put it on a weighted stick about 2 feet long.
It has been discussed to death that the wiimote could be the answer for so many overweight gamers (which is a great thing) but how easy is it to damage something (ie: back, arms, neck, tendons, etc) due to prolonged usage of this device? I don't own a wii but how accurate to "real" sports movements is it? Do players have to do unnatural movements at times in order to get things "working"?
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I think http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/11/13 eloquently puts the point across.
Since the wii has wifi, Sebastion isn't allowed to play with it.
This
I mean really really out of shape. I've known this for awhile, but it's nice that I have something I can do that I enjoy that actually gives me a bit of a workout. My SO and I are playing a lot of Tennis together. It's less of a learning curve and more practical to play a few best of 3 games of tennis every night than to go out and do it in cold wet seattle. And surprisingly, we can work up a sweat after a half hour to an hour of tennis.
The bowling is really easy on the arms. Baseball can be hard on the pitching arm. Boxing is a real work out. And golf is kind of relaxing and is more of a precision game. Several of the Raving Rabbids games have tested our metal. I seem to be really good at the running and rhythm games, and my SO is great at the shooting and fine manipulation games.
All in all, it was fun to notice that little bit of pain in the back of the shoulder that lets you know you got some exercise. Something I rarely feel I can do much of anymore, which is really just a mental block and lazyness on my part. Still, if they could figure out some way to get your legs to workout in this games, it would be something better for youth to do besides the regular sit and stare video games that I grew up with.
This may help the obesity rate among kids. It has been climbing at an alarming pace, and now that we have a workout program disguised as a video game... Things are bound to get better.
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I've been playing quite a bit exploring the landscape of the latest Zelda game. As long as I hold my wrists strait while playing, I've found it a much lighter stress than using a mouse. The closest thing to an ache I've gotten was while playing a precision flying minigame for more than a half-hour - having to hold the pointer perfectly still to pop these stationary balloons as the camera pans around your character's flying figure is akin to trying to hold your hand out in front of your body for a similar time... extremely easy at first, but your muscles do tense from the focus on a position. Sitting cross-legged on a chair, and occasionally resting my elbow on my leg pretty much fixes that issue with me though. Swinging both controllers, almost an endless number of ways and times though, hasn't itself been much of a stress at all, even now at the end of the game, and after going through a 50-floor optional battle-fest.
Nintendo has done a very good job so far making a comfortable and light controller. Players concerned about wrist or arm stress should compare against mouse usage, and be willing to take breaks if they have to do the same when using a mouse. Don't be afraid to rest your arm on something while playing, or to be creative with 'lazy' ways of performing the same action if it must be repeated. And, if it's really an issue, consider getting some cheap light weights (1-5lbs) and do some light exercise while watching TV at night or something - this works for even the oldest or the youngest people out there, from my experience.
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Has anyone made a Vorbcast of their trials and tribulations with their Wii's ?
Also, I find this absolutely ridiculous. This article is horribly worded and this quote seems completely out of context. What is harder than playing basketball? The writer seems to make it sound like the kid is talking about actually moving the wiimote around, but I suspect he is actually referring to some specific game being exceedingly difficult to complete. Maybe it gives you a little exercise, but as the spokeswoman from Nintendo says,
I should also point out I do not yet been able to get a Wii.
I just want to know how long before we get some good DDR games, with a supporte mat, for the Wii.
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I get plenty of right-arm exercise in front of my PC, but I could do with something that works on my left arm, and preferably doesn't make you go blind ;)
Oh no... it's the future.
You could make a dance game with extra detail, maybe. Two wiimotes, one in each hand, and a dance mat connected as a standard controller.
Come to think of it, that wouldn't only work for dance games. How about a fighting game? Wii Boxing with fancy footwork...
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When I was a kid, the only way we could convince our parents to buy us an NES was to convince them that the Power Pad (I think that's what it was called) would encourage us to be more active. I don't know if they really believed us, but that christmas, there was a brand new NES under the tree with the Power Pad. We actually used it for a little while too, though the only game we had for it was some kind of olympic sports game. It soon gathered lots of dust though after we discovered much more fun games. Here's to the new generation of kids who get to convince their parents to get them a Wii "because it will keep them active". And here's hoping that these newer games might be fun enough to keep he kids interested and active.
It's called YourSelf Fitness, and it isn't so much a game as a virtual trainer, I guess... It's strange.
The Wii remote causes injuries and that's supposed to be a good thing how? Why do I think that if this were Sony or Microsoft, that people wouldn't be shitting on them right now and talking up lawsuits rather than trying to spin the story into sounding like it's a good thing.
And the system is amazing.
I decided to see how many calories I actually burned, so I attached a small fitness monitor to myself and played away.
After about 20 minutes of play, I was up to 97 calories. That isn't have bad, a very light work out.
The reverse has already been done. "Video games" built into exercise equipment. Many treadmills have a simulated terrain that you run on. The terrain is shown on a really cheesy GDU composed of a grid of LEDs. Other machines, like rowing machines sometimes have an electronic competitor that you race against.
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It has real work out programs designed by nike motion works: cardio, tai chi, yoga, firming exercises, etc.
It's a program that also scales with use. The eyetoy is a better controller than the Wii to me as well, since you can use your whole body. Like the Wii controller you might have to adjust your lighting for perfect useage and keep an area clear for movement. I also suggest getting a mat as well. I was a judoka for a long time, and I still get a good workout from this system.
I think that this is a good example of market segmentation. Lots of little kids are gonna LOVE the Nintendo. And why shouldn't they? There are lots of little kid games (Mario*, etc.) and kids would love to pretend they're swinging a sword or some such stuff, jumping around the room for hours on end.
But, you gotta realize that there's another side to the coin. There are many, many, many people who work a long day and want to come home and drink/get high and sit down to relax with a video game. I can think of tons of people (myself included) who get plenty of exercise every day, and certainly don't want to do any more when they get home. I, for one, look forward to vegging out in front of a PS3 (once they add back in the "rumble" effect, which I'm sure they will after the inevitable outcry from current PS2 owners).
I seem to recall having spent upwards of 8 hours on two consecutive days playing Wii games, and only a couple tired me out at all.
It actually hurts less than a traditional controller, because I can keep my hands comfortably separated.
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but does anyone have any games the recomend for the Wii, I'm pre-ordered zelda today but was also interested in that red steel game... what's good?
(In case your wondering I live in the UK and we get it on the 8th of December)
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Just so you know, this is the new Wiimote, coming next year.
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When I got Perfect Dark back in 2000, I got INTO shape. I played it so much that I forgot to eat.
I find this semi-completely asinine... Getting a workout playing virtual tennis? Save yourself the cash! Why not find a buddy and go to the court in the local park?
That being said, I know there are circumstance where the virtual version might be more beneficial- such as here in New York come winter (8 months of the year), physical disabilities (this could be a good way for rehab patients to workout), etc- but seriously... thats not the majority of people who play this. And the majority probably won't play in workout mode. Oh well. Great compromise Nintendo.
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What a sad commentary on people that they would rather play virtual tennis and virtual bowls than the real games. These people should get a life.
They'll still be obese. They'll just have huge wrist muscles from flicking their wrist every time they have to swing the sword in Zelda.
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I think we can now officially declare humanity to be doomed when exercise means playing a video game. Could the last human please turn out the light when they leave? Oh, and remember to turn off the console and plasma TV too.
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A friend of mine was playing Wii Tennis with me last night, and he ended up twisting his knee hard and going down for several minutes from the pain after he accidentally wedged his boot under the egde of my couch while playing.
On another note, I've seen a couple photos of people's cracked TV's, claiming that the two little strings that hold the wrist strap on snapped. The way I play I was skeptical of this happening, but the way my friends were flinging the controller quickly towards the TV I'm pretty sure this can and will continue to happen unless Nintendo reinforces those little strings.
That's for real! Own this Playstation 3 and earn it!
Most of the Mario "kiddie" games you speak of are far more difficult than the majority of the "grown-up" games out there. GTA for instance is a cake walk next to Super Mario Brothers 2 or Mario Sunshine. The myth of Nintendo being a kiddie console is one perpetuated mainly by teens and preteens that think they are too old to play a game with a cartoony main character. Once you grow up you will find that its ok, mario is no threat to your manhood. Oddly enough you will also generally find that immaturity in gaming is usually on the violence for violence's sake crowd. In the end its all about fun and a challenge, Nintendo does a good job of delivering both.
Maybe Japan finally realized with North Korea rattling sabers that having of their youth sitting on a couch being fat, lazy, and brain-dead wasn't so great long term.
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Most people think that exercising and waving your arms around while playing video games defeats the games purpose. But i think its brilliant, its kind of like an RPG simulator console so you are the character. plus i need the exercise, watching star trek and playing on my PSP all day isnt really good for my health. -Zonk, how do you know so much about the gaming world?
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I smell a repetitive stress injury in the making and products liability lawsuits to follow.
This isn't exactly new. DDR was quite a workout just a few years ago, and Nintendo themselves had that goofy controller pad for sports games some 15 years ago. I'd bet our current bushel of couch potatoes won't get much out of swinging a half-pound chunk of plastic around. But time shall tell.
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This whole Wii thing is turning out to have more of a wii-action than most people bargained for!
I don't have my Wii yet, but I actually bought Rayman in anticipation and played it on a friend's console.
Anyways, there's this one game where you're looking at a beach, and rabbits in scuba gear are coming towards you from underwater. You've got to shoot them with carrot juice. You use the wiimote to aim the hose, and you rapidly move the nunchuk up and down to pump carrot juice...
You know, I would have thought that I'd have more staying power in that game, but holy hell was I wrong. Maybe I was pumping too hard, but my arm was fricking tired at the end of the, I think, 50 seconds you needed to last to beat it.
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For those who don't get it, the Wii is going to make doing a bit of exercise FUN. I used to lift weght's, but it's SO BORING; lift, return, repeat, rest.
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My girlfriend and I started playing Wii together (she pretty much hates all video games and I'm a gamer dork) and we have pretty much decided that Wii Sports Boxing is an awesome workout..
A few 3-round fights and both of us are catching our breaths.. (We're not in bad shape either.. she's 21 and I'm 24). The one thing the Wii does is get my ass off the couch. Even when I'm playing games like Zelda or Red Steel, I find myself standing up intently and precisely swinging the Wiimote around.
Boxing, though, is a whole different kind of workout.. I've done real boxing - and there's nothing like it. But, with Wii boxing, you can actually beat up your girlfriend and feel good about it. I love how intuitive it is.. She hasn't played any video games except for Grand Theft Auto (and that she did rarely) and she beats me about as often as I beat her.
I will admit, the graphics for the Wii are HIGHLY dissappointing. They are seriously bad. I would've thought Nintendo would at LEAST improve them somewhat to look halfway-decent on a 720p HDTV. Oh well.. Maybe in the next round of console wars we'll get a Nintendo system that's a ton of fun to play AND has good graphics. I agree with Nintendo, though.. gameplay is definitely key. There's a reason I have a Gamecube and a Wii.. and no Xbox or PS2 (or the newer ones.)
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I don't know exactly how this controller-thing works, but the article got me interested. I mean, is there a Wii version of "Leisure Suit Larry", and corresponding controllers, or uhm, stuff?
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I'm reviewing a Wii for a magazine, and after 3 hours of bowling, tennis and baseball, my arms and back are killing me!
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The guys is giving a PS3 for free if someboidy hacks into it.
How long... before they make a actual exercise themed game?
The WarioWare: Smooth Moves game will have a number of different exercise-based minigames, including running, squats, jump-roping, and so forth. There's a short video here.
Personally though, I can't wait until somebody makes some kind of Glowstick Revolution game for it. The Wiimote form factor is just asking for it. I'm not sure what would be a good visual interface for conveying glowstick maneuvers, though.
Can you say "Dance Dance Wiivolution"? I thought you could...
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The activity factor is the very reason I like the Wii rather than other static form of gaming. I don't have one yet but it certainly looks like fun.
Do the Wii remotes have rumble? I've read reviews about how boxing and golf feel weird due to no feedback, even a small bit of rumble would help to make it feel more real and also help you gauge your response.
I'm the champion Wii boxer in my group of friends, so I'm always up, and the only way to be really good at boxing is to throw your arms fast for the punches, and I can say from first hand experience, my shoulders are killing me. It really feels like I went to the gym after a long absence. Incidentally, I haven't been to the gym in 4 years, so that probably didn't help. It's totally worth the pain though. Every single night since I've had it, I've had a party at my apartment. It's great game when you have beer pong in the other room, and the people who aren't playing can box or golf or whatever.
I got to play the baseball game with my brother-inlaw's system (his wife camped out at 3:30 am to get his birthday present a month early).
When you get a solid hit (e.g. a homer or a double), there is a short rumble in the controller. I almost dropped the thing the first time it shook on my (nobody told me about it, and its remote-like appearance threw me off).
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I've been playing the 1st Wii Tennis training mini-game to get a nice aerobic workout. It's simple enough to keep going without much frustration. What I do is take a step forward on the same foot as the arm I'm swinging with and when the character gets close to the net, I'll switch it up and side step in the direction of the swing. About half an hour of that I get a good workout.
If we're all going to be getting exercise from this, I think a lot of people would be interested in increasing that by using heavier controllers. Also, I have to wonder if it's good for your elbows to be swinging your arms wildly for a long time with no real weight on them.
> I'd rather spend Saturday playing real golf than I would hanging out with friends.
Uh, for most players, "real golf" is a place to hang out with their friends...
There are lots of reasons.:
Generally, I prefer real sports to console sports, but they do quite simply occupy a different niche in my life. Playing Wii Sports takes away from my console playing time, not from my sports time. I'm doing more physical activities, not replacing real sports with Wii sports.
I had been thinking the Wii sounded much better than the PS3 with its current level of games and now I really would like to get a Wii!
It would be *extremely* cool to have a number of wireless sensors you can strap arond parts of your body and with maybe soft bands you can close with velcro, and do a daily workout to the Wii. It could either be a game (like those embedded games for exercise bikes) or maybe a game-like monitor of how your progress goes. With sound and maybe images (though probably wouldn't be looking at the screen) it can see if you are slacking towards the end, or how high an angle you get on your leg lifts, etc.
This would be great for rehabilitation, and if it can store your progress you could even get a graph, and maybe a suggestion to add a few reps. If nothing else as a timer it would be useful, for example I do leg lifts to rehabilitate my knees from a skiing accident and though once in a while I get psyched up, it is boring, you have to look at a watch to time so many seconds of each part, and so on.
I would be willing to plunk some cash down if I could get some of these sensors and a monitoring app for the Wii that would accompany me with these leg lifts and why not pushups and situps too? With the Wii you could do pushups with a cartoon bear on your back telling you to suck it in!
Anyway I'd also like to say I would prefer trying a golf game than a shooting game after work too. And I have gone 6 months without watching my TV either and done just fine but I would hook it up again for this kind of a "game". If Nintendo knows what's good for them they'll start a new division for this stuff.
Sony of course will just never get it. I was hyped about their supercomputer stuff promised for the PS3 but so far it just looks like a bunch of overheated silicon that can only be put through its paces by large companies willing to brave the brink of bankruptcy for years on end. And I also was upset to play the PS2 with my very young nephews, all the titles they had were very violent, and made them uneasy, or were just too hard to play!
Just from what I've heard so far, Wii is undoubtedly the best game machine out there and undoubedly has the best games. I may not be representative but I am attracted to machines by one or two interesting looking games. For the Saturn I liked the Nights game (Japanese), and there are two music games that would make me buy a DS. Doing sports is fine but if you have little time, or just want some pure fun, or have a family, the Wii sounds right on target.
Will the extra exercise gain support for video games or lose it? I wonder the affect this will have on american obesity, and sadly I also wonder the "legal" effects. I can see someone arguing that having to move the controller realistically is the next step in the evolution of murder simulators.
Miyamoto himself is set to make a workout game.. however there are more options... tae-bo games for instance. Or virtual jump rope.. two controllers representing the ends of the jump rope, and if you jump you and the controllers would go up, and the Wii can register that.. The Wii controller is really inspiring me into new gaming ideas... the possibilities are endless. Ice-Hockey games could be made fun and intuitive.. even basketball. And bow and arrow shooting.. press A to hold the string, and pull the string by moving the Wii controller backwards, release the A button to release! That would feel quite real! (you've got sound from the controller too!).
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Actually... the sensor in the Wii will pick up small motions too. You don't have to work out every time you play, but you look stupid sitting on the couch when the person next to you is jumping up and down.
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I wonder what kind of snsors can be added to this thing. Can we get some sort of "End of Days" experince gong here? We can put on the brain bucket and experince the ultimate internet computer sex imaginable. Think of the possiblities. Who cares about bowling or tennis. I wana get a real work out...
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Honest anwser, because you may not be physically able to. My mother loves Tennis, but now has bad knees and can't play anymore. She really got into WiiSports Tennis, and My dad liked the golf game. My parents (who are retired and don't play video games) now want a Wii.
1) The Wiimote takes 2 AA batteries. Energizer make great 2500 mAh rechargeables, I recommend them highly.
2) Mileage varies by games. I'm getting away with 4 Wiimotes and 2 nunchucks total. When in doubt you can get the nunchchuck later.
Ok, now jumping in on the previous conversation about the games. Madden is hella fun, and they put ALOT of thought & effort in the controlls. You want to throw a pass, you throw a pass. Stiff arm? You just do it. Catch a pass? Throw both hands in the air like you're catching it. Tackle? Thrust both hands forward like you are playing '2 hand touch football'.
It actually has MORE content, and game modes than any other version of Madden out there. The only thing it's missing is online modes, but I suspect we'll see that for '08. If you like (American) Football, even if you weren't big on Madden, It's worth a rental to try out.
Nope. Even if they did, look at your GameCube component cables again. Notice anything missing? If you could use them on the Wii, you wouldn't have sound. Anyway, they are currently on backorder, but the Component Wii cables are on Nintendo's online store and run $30 + shipping.
The reviewers must have had it turned off in the settings, as it was always in the design. It is in the final product, and works great. The nunchuck attachment also has a motion sensor so you use that and the Wiimote for boxing.
When you get a solid hit (e.g. a homer or a double), there is a short rumble in the controller.
Depending on your background noise you might have missed something else. The CRACK of the bat as it hits. There is a speaker in the remote for these types of applications. You get VERY immersive feedback in Wiisports Tennis, and Baseball for this reason.
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Nope, you cannot. The rub here is because the IR sensor they have doesn't detect motion. That is soley for the laser pointer / lightgun function. I can't imagine any of the WiiSports games would play particularly well from the couch, but I suppose it's possible. The basic method of getting people off the couch is the old fashioned "Quit being an asshat, and stand up!"
Seriously, that's pathetic. I have a Wii and none of the games out require any sort of excessive physical exersion. If playing Wii wears you out you don't need to play more Wii for exercise. You need to get off your fat ass and get a membership to the YMCA. You need to do push ups and sit ups. You need to jog. One of the biggest problems with America is that everyone is fat and lazy. When you go to Europe you're not surrounded by fat asses everywhere you go (okay, somewhat in England, but it's not nearly as bad as over here). How can one live obscenely obese without the desire to change? Being healthy requires two things: proper diet and physical activity. It's not rocket science. You don't need miracle diet pills or Atkins or whatever the fuck bullshit people try to sell. If you're fat, eat less (or better) and exercise more. There are no excuses.
This is the same stupid stereotyping.
Nintendo got shackled with a detremental image and it's been difficult to shake. It does exist however, and people WILL buy a product based on Aestetic Design (remember the iMac?). There is a Reason the Wii, and the DS Lite look very 'Apple inspired' they want to change their image.
Nintendo has always had the best Offline 'get some buddies on a couch' multiplayer games out there. That was why you would buy a Gamecube over the others. The PS2 has some of the best Single player games, and X-Box live still trumps anything else out there. So far this gen doesn't look much different (besides Sony losing more exclusives)
It is possible to hit things unintentionally. There is a bit of 'creep' in your movements that's why I place the coffee table between players while boxing. In general it's avoidable, however I'm sure someone who's too competitive for their own good could get a torn rotator cuff pitching in WiiSports Baseball. At that point though, they need to stop playing competitive.... anything.
Ironically I had the same experiance. My mom saw a comercial and asked me to bring the Wii over so she could try tennis. I set it up, and My dad did well at Golf / Boxing, my Mom for Bowling / Tennis (none of us are big on baseball). Not only did they ask to try it, but when the neighbors came over, my parents goaded them into giving it a try.
I honestly think Nintendo is onto something big here.