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Censoring a Number
Rudd-O writes "Months after successful discovery of the HD-DVD processing key, an unprecedented campaign of censorship, in the form of DMCA takedown notices by the MPAA, has hit the Net. For example Spooky Action at a Distance was killed. More disturbingly, my story got Dugg twice, with the second wave hitting 15,500 votes, and today I found out it had simply disappeared from Digg. How long until the long arm of the MPAA gets to my own site (run in Ecuador) and the rest of them holding the processing key? How long will we let rampant censorship go on, in the name of economic interest?" How long before the magic 16-hex-pairs number shows up in a comment here?
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
It's amazing to see just how worthless and futile DRM is. It penalizes the poor saps who don't have the know-how to override it. As for the rest, and that includes the pirates, it's no obstacle at all.
If you had a lock that kept out only the people you actually wanted in, but couldn't keep out those that were actually going to rob you blind, one would think that your solution might be a little more robust than "I'll see anyone who reports how badly my lock works".
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They walk the walk :)
I was amazed at the quickness of the censors, when I clicked on the link here, and got the "Nothing to see here, please move along." message. I've often seen people say that they got that message, but was never quite sure if it actually happened. This time it did. In cooperation with the summary, here's the number: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
warning: This post is likely to contain gobs of dripping sarcasm. Consume at your own risk.
Finally a use the Anonymos Cowards ;)
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I would post the processing key, but I'll link to the original posting instead:
g e=6
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121866&pa
I recommend interested slashdotters read the thread, there's a lot of interesting context to the discovery.
Quality, performance, value; you get only two, and you don't always get to pick.
Remember De-CSS?
"MIT betrayed all of its basic principles."
http://www.google.com/search?q=%2209+F9+11+02+9D+7 4+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0%22
Causation can cause correlation
Time to get out and use the old pen to write a nice little letter to my congress critter.
I'm all for someone using their rights to protect what is their's. Not a problem, but when it dictates what they can do with the things they own, and speech, I think it has crossed a line I'd rather it not cross.
Some say Americans just take the abuse and can't see what the big deal is, unless it might cause re-runs of Friends to be pulled. Some people say Americans are sheep and will go where a select class of people point for them to go. I have sometimes seen these rights dry up a little when not constantly defended, and I start to think American's are lemmings, not sheep.
I guess I'm just as guilty as everyone else. I'm no fool. I can see I'm like that also, but I'm trying really hard to be different.
Short Answer: It all stops when we all stop it.
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I liked this version...
--- These are not words: wierd, genious, rediculous
04 08 15 16 23 42
I've been frenetically digging up incoming stories about this. This is nolonger about the key itself but one's freedom of speech. This demonstrates the worst of the DMCA and how it's being used to harm people's freedom and fair use rights.
09
Treating that number as a big-endian quantity, the representation in decimal is:
13256278887989457651018865901401704640Oh nine, eff nine, one one oh too!
Nine dee, seven four, eee three, five bee.
Dee ate for one,
Five six,
See five,
Six three, five six, ate eight sea oh!
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 Seriously, tag it.
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The media processing key for AACS is: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Schwab
Editor, A1-AAA AmeriCaptions
http://www.google.com/search?q=09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E 3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0
Results 1 - 10 of about 279,000 for 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Put this number on your front page somewhere as a protest!
My blog
The score so far:
Posts mentioning the infamous hex 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0: 25
Posts remarking how they have the same number as their luggage combination: 5
Stay tuned, folks, the game ain't over yet!
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
I wonder if they'll be searching for the number in different forms... Like base 32?
t ring_use_the_linked_URL_to_get_your_desired_target ). Anyone want to place bets on whether Digg preemptively killed that story versus received a takedown notice? I'm guessing the former.
Aside: looks like *someone* killed the Digg story that included the number after a ROT-13 transform (http://digg.com/tech_news/A_useful_copyrighted_s
Scott Severtson
Senior Architect, Digital Measures
When I read this slashdot post, the first thing I thought was "I bet there's a wikipedia article on it!" Sure enough, either somebody has posted one and it's been deleted and protected, or the editors went ahead and jumped on it and protected it. (I haven't checked yet, though there are "additional information links. Nor have I check it in other bases.)
Guess I should look into postng this to one of the "anti-censorship on wikipeida" sites.
For what it's worth, this is utter crap, but it shows a severe weakness in copyright law. Anything that can be represented with data, anything at all, can be encoded/encrpyted on anything else, given an arbitrary coding mechanism. For instance, let us create "sabre86's stanard coding scheme": add 1 to any number. After encoding we have 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C1. Look, it's a different number! I guess it isn't a circumvention. Or is it?
You can extend this logic arbitarily to anything, so that not only can any string represent any other string (and thus be a "copy"), any string can be the key to an encoding scheme, meaning that posting any string is "circumvention" if I see fit to describe my encryption process such that it encrypts/encodes a copyrighted work using that string as a "key."
So all strings are copyrighted because they can derived from other copyrighted strings through an arbitrary encoding scheme and all strings are potentially circumventions of DRM/CRAP because they are both a representation of a known key in a different encoding and the key for some other arbitrary encryption algorithm that "circumvents the copyright protections."
Bullshit
--sabre86
In SOVIET RUSSIA, 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 censors you!
...and I was too late. However, .net and .org are still open...
Carousel is a lie!
If ever a story deserved to be tagged hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 then it's this one. Remember, your tag must start with an alphabetical character, and it takes a lot more tagging than it used to to get up there in lights.
How long must a number be to be copyrightable? Any digital file, including programs, can be written as a number, yet obviously pictures and programs can be copyrighted. The number 1 cannot be copyrighted, but the 98641-decimal-digit number corresponding to the original Super Mario Bros. ROM images can be. Where is the line drawn? Can cryptographic keys be copyrighted? Can the MPAA use a (long) key containing a copyrightable image so that the cryptographic key is copyrighted as well?
"Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on and steal the Java language." - Visual J++ Product Manager
How about in everybody's sig line on Slashdot as protest?
Now what was that number again?
"It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
Everything digital is as a number (hence the name "digital").
Circumvention software? A long number. PDFs with classified military information? Long numbers. Child porn? Long numbers. Having those illegal numbers on your hard drive will get you convicted.
So, if you are going to argue that numbers can't be illegal, think about the above examples, and reconsider your arguing strategy -- you will not win that argument with a judge.
If you open yourself to the foo, You and foo become one.
More information about AACS's (Access Content System Licensing Administrator, LLC) take down notices can be found at: http://www.chillingeffects.org/index.cgi
and specifically: http://www.chillingeffects.org/anticircumvention/n otice.cgi?NoticeID=7180
They give an example of AACS's take down notices and pretty good legal analysis of its contents.
I've been watching this happening on digg today (first time I've even really read digg in a long time, coincidentally :p)
7 .png ... and the digg story got deleted while I was typing this post. Fun fun.
;)
I saw one story with the key go from 200 to over 800 "diggs" in something like 20 minutes, then it got deleted.
In about the same time, this story, which links to this blog got up to 2-300 "diggs", then was removed from the front page.
My favourite submission so far was this, which linked to this image: http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3967/gitshddvdkb
I think I'll stick with Slashdot
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Look at old posts. I've been using that exact sequence of hex digits as my signature on posts since the beginning.
Indeed, it has silently disappeared from Digg again, for the second time.
:-(
I think basically this turn of events unfolded, although I might not have got the numbers 100% accurate yet!
9 hackers looking into poor security,
249 MPAA lawyers browsing porn in the silence before the storm.
17 sites spreading the news,
2 sites surviving the mass visits.
157 drops of sweat down the AACS team's cheeks,
116 frantic phone calls buzzing in the offices.
227 lawyers starting up Plan B,
There's now 91 sites to shut down.
$216 sent as bribe for the Digg staff,
still 65 sites still up and running.
86 shutdown reasons discovered by abusing the DMCA,
197 prayers one will work.
99 sites now publishing the keys... oh wait!
86 managers finding the case is slipping out of control.
136 confused MPAA members mumbling about HD-DVD keys,
192 reasons found to keep trying to stifle sales.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
the super sekrit number was 0xdeadbeefcafebabe
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
I'm sorry, but you can't claim Copyright on a randomly generated cryptographic key. That is because a randomly generated key does not meet the minimum creativity requirements of Copyright law. No creative input == No Copyright. The bar is very low but a randomly generated key patently does not meet it.
Astonishingly, the next prime after that is only 31 away, so our famous number can also be represented as
It is also very interesting because it is also equal to the product of the following prime numbers:
Truthfully, when was the last time you saw any remotely similar number? Never, right? We better record this for mathematical posterity!!! :-)
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A novel way of saying it.
add hl,bc
ld sp,hl
ld de,09d02h
ld (hl),h
ex (sp),hl
ld e,e
ret c
ld b,c
ld d,(hl)
push bc
ld h,e
ld d,(hl)
adc a,b
ret nz
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Yes, hex is way more art than this: http://www.makezine.com/blog/MAKE_599.jpg
The more you know, the less you need. [Admin added: from me.]
Then we'll need more. Our motto can be "Eat more for freedom!"
I am not a crackpot.
Wow, it really works!
One problem though, I used it to watch attack of the clones, hoping to see some Natalie Portman hawtness, and was instead rendered impotent by Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen.
Turns out, the key only works for actors, and does nothing for actresses.
Try not to take me more seriously than I take myself.
Posted a link to this article on Fark - the discussion thread was killed instantly.
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Oh, DRM has some structural integrity! You can lean (carefully!) against plywood without breaking it, too!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
These people seem to crack it using Windows based soft-players using the X-Box USB attachment (USB connection is the unencrypted weak link). Perhaps the MPAA should leave the bloggers alone and look at what Microsoft is doing.
Microsoft is a cancer that attaches itself in an security sense to everything it touches...
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Right here is the T-Shirt.
A blog about stuff.
Oh nine,
Frank nine,
One one,
Oh Two.
Nine dog seven four Edward three,
Five big dogs ate fourty-one.
Fifty six, Charlie five,
Six three.
Fifty six and a pair of eights.
Charlie naught.
Have gnu, will travel.
Sites are going down all around me, still Slashdot soldiers on. When will someone send this to Sealand they should make it there new anthem. Surprisingly all the hosts for any type of software that could use this are now completely down.
Http://Stineomite.org (Yeah Thats Right I'm An Organization)
Let's say you use a password to store your banking information, and that password is "dumbass5." Now a blog posts that your password to your banking account is "dumbass5." Would you call it censorship when you retained an attorney to shut down that blog/forum/site? More specifically, would you call it censorship that infringed on your rights?
Bullshit. That's my answer to your question ... because we're talking as much about getting HD-DVDs to play on Linux boxes as we are about copying them. And, by the way, copyright law and Supreme Court precedent still give you the right to make backup copies of your media.
A better analogy is this: You've locked everyone out of their bank accounts, and they need a password only you can supply them with in order to get to their money. Then someone finds out the password is "dumbass5" and posts it. How are you going to look when you're intimidating and/or SLAPPing people into sharing something that you shouldn't be holding over their heads in the first place?
!#@%*)anks for hanging up the phone, dear.
Maybe companies should understand that secure encryption is impossible when you have several thousand geeks running around with a computer, no social skills, and way too much idle time on their hands.
Tesla was a genius. Edison however was a overrated hack who liked to torture puppies.
The mere fact that geeks regularly cooperate on a massive scale (i'd hazard the only people who cooperate on a larger scale are organised religions) illustrates that we do not lack the social skills necessary for our society.
thirteen undecillion, two hundred fifty six decillion, two hundred seventy eight nonillion, eight hundred eighty seven octillion, nine hundred eighty nine septillion, four hundred fifty seven sextillion, six hundred fifty one quintillion, eighteen quadrillion, eight hundred sixty five trillion, nine hundred and one billion, four hundred and one million, seven hundred and four thousand, six hundred and forty
I'd like to see this on the next start sequence of the Simpsons! Bart writing on the blackboard:
...
I must not write 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
I must not write 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
I must not write 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
I must not write 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
I know this is fun an' all, but aren't the takedown notices directed at the program BackupHDDVD plus keys, and identifying them as such? Blathering on about a bunch of hex might be to their advantage since they won't be using that string again. Maybe it's our duty if anything to carry round that prog on our thumbdrives. But still, it's fun...
Here is Kevin Rose's response as to why they have been deleting the stories over at Digg. Will Slashdot follow as well? If not why or why not?
[alk]
If they're so upset about people saying what the processing key is, then surely they'd have no problem with saying what it's not.
-- Alastair
When you drive down the motorway, in general everyone is going to a different place and doesn't care about where anyone else is going to. You have to take into consideration what they're doing on the motorway, however.
When people work to crack something like this, they are all working to the same end, and do not necessarily know what each other is doing to that end, although sometimes people discuss their ideas to get feedback etc.
Maybe we need a new moderation: (-1, Car Analogy).
Don't you just hate it when people reply to your signature?
Sure it's social! Demented and sad, but social!
Someone use CSS to encrypt the key... would be impossible to break then!
I've got this piece of information which I only know that the first digit starts with the number nine (00001001 in binary). I've encoded this information using a special encryption technique and a key. This to keep it from being used by persons that do not have the right to this information. Anyway, noone without should decode the number, or you would breach the DMCA. This obviously goes twice for the RI-AA.
The information is: A3 53 BB A8 37 DE 49 F1 72 EB FC 6F C9 FC 22 6A
eCard of the Number (3rd ecard on the page) http://www.brainwrench.com/ecards/categories/prote st.php
ping -p 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 www.mpaa.com
Hmm, shame MAC addresses are too short.
Arbitrary URL strings?
The possibilities are endless.
The previous comments are only true, if no-one says they're wrong.
I would have picked a running marathon analogy, but figured more people here have driven or been in a car than would get the reference to exercise.
Tesla was a genius. Edison however was a overrated hack who liked to torture puppies.
I just have to say that the "Free Speech" arguments don't seem to hold a lot of water to me. Don't get me wrong, I hate DRM/DMCA/MPAA as much as the next guy, but free speech?
If this number should be protected by free speech, is it also free speech for me to publish your name, birthday, ssn, and credit card number?
Bring on the flames.
Information wants to be free. It's impossible to delete information from the internet. I find that to be the most heartening benefit of the internet to mankind - that information, once discovered, can never truly be censored and taken away again. Attempts at censorship will only accelerate the spread, as is evident in this story.
How many millions does the entertainment industry have to lose before it learns that these incredibly lame attempts at security through obscurity are destined to fail, especially when the technology is in the hands of hundreds of people technically capable of defeating it independently with no other motivation than to say they did it?
Obviously we have the processing key already mentioned. Now what is that supposed to do for the average person? Is there a program that takes advantage of it out yet?
Excellent notion. The moderation choices we have now are so bland.
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Digg really screwed up this time. At the time of this posting their whole front-page is plastered with key related articles sharing the hex in various ways. Not to mention the other dozens of upcoming stories going up the digg rankings within minutes. The chaos reminds me of IRC channel take overs back in the day. This is truly a digital revolt. Today I am proud to be a geek.
[alk]
For extra fun, you can put the number in your user agent string. Since plenty of server logs are public, the number will be in lots of log files all over the place.
In Firefox, you can append a comment to the default existing user-agent string, by visiting about:config and adding a string property with the key general.useragent.extra.firefoxComment
Whatever you put in there is added to the end of the user agent string that is sent with every request your browser makes. Mine is now:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070426 Firefox/2.0.0.3 Version 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640
Thanks to ludwik on digg for the suggestion.
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