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The Sun Has First Spotless Month Since 1913
radioweather writes "August 2008 has made solar history. As of 00 UTC September 1st 2008 (5PM PST)
we just witnessed the
first spotless calendar month since June 1913.This was determined according
to sunspot
data from NOAA's National Geophysical Data Center, which goes back to 1749.
In the 95 years since 1913, we've had quite an active sun, but activity has been
declining in the last few years. The sun today is a nearly featureless sphere and has been spotless for 42
days total, but this is the first full calendar month since 1913 for a spotless
sun. And there are other indicators of the sun being in a funk. Australia's
space weather agency recently revised their solar cycle 24 forecast, pushing the
expected date for a ramping up of
cycle 24 sunspots into the future by six months."
As one of the links above indicate, there was a "sunspeck" reported August 21/22, though. Reader MikeyTheK adds a link to a story at Daily Tech on the spotless record.
The sun has discovered the best acne medication in the universe.
I am officially gone from
Great, now I know why summer this year was, well, pretty nonexistant really.
-- Cheers!
Conservatives are going to jump on this one quick to 'prove' that global warming isn't manmade. Don't say I didn't warn you!
We're all going to die...!
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I keep telling her those unsightly blemishes will clear up in time - now I have proof!
"As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
Anyone know if this means the Earth gets less solar energy? Will there be global cooling because the sun has less output?
"Sun Has First Spotless Month Since 1913"
... see, its not a black hole making machine, it actually washes whiter than white.
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Ok, who switched on the LHC!
Ha!, that'll stop the critics who think the earth will vanish in a instant... see nothing to worry ab.o.u..t... [KABOOOMMMMMM
There are 10 kinds of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.
When a big solar storm turns off GPS for a few hours or days. I know some people that have become dependent on their nav-computers.
A weak solar cycle may postpone this problem.
I can't wait to come back later and find out how this is caused by George W. Bush, the US, or Bush's failure to sign on to the Kyoto treaty (even though Clinton was president at the time).
Do you have ESP?
OH MY
So... CO2 causes global warming, apparently on Mars and Jupiter too. Yet when sunspot activity decreases, this whole global warming trend slows down (to the tune of no increase of global temperature in over 8 years). And in the 1990s when sunspot activity was some of the highest ever recorded, global temperatures rose. I wonder if this is a coincidence.... or is it?
So really... are you all still addicted to that theory? That it's all about the CO2?
...George W. Bush's fault.
* August 4 - In China, province of Chungking declares independence. Chinese Republican forces crush the rebellion in a couple of weeks
* August 10 - Division of Macedonia after the second Balkan War, according to the Treaty of Bucharest
* August 13 - Invention of stainless steel by Harry Brearley in Sheffield.
* August 15 - Start of Dublin Strike & Lockout, all trade union members dismissed
* August 20 - 700 feet above Buc, France, parachutist Adolphe Pegond jumps from an airplane and lands safely.
So let me get this straight.
This has happened before, we're on the low point of a cycle according to even the wikipedia information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sunspot_Numbers.png
Is there really any significance other than that? I don't mean that in a smartass way, genuinely wondering here.
It seems to show the sun has active sunspot cycles, and less active sunspot cycles. Thus, we are at one of the less active cycles.
This is George Bush's fault, of course. His failed environmental policies have damaged the Sun.
damage. so, eye gas we can consume away, just like yesterday. fear is unprecedented evile's primary weapon. that, along with greed, deception & coercion, helps most of us remain (unwittingly?) dependent on its' greed/fear/ego based hired goons' agenda. Most of yOUR dwindling resources are being squandered on the 'war', & continuation of the billionerrors stock markup FraUD/pyramid scheme. nobody ever mentions the real long term costs of those debacles in both life & the notion of prosperity, not to mention the abuse of the consciences of those of us who still have one. see you on the other side of it. the lights are coming up all over now. conspiracy theorists are being vindicated. some might choose a tin umbrella to go with their hats. the fairytail is winding down now. let your conscience be yOUR guide. you can be more helpful than you might have imagined. there are still some choices. if they do not suit you, consider the likely results of continuing to follow the corepirate nazi hypenosys story LIEn, whereas anything of relevance is replaced almost instantly with pr ?firm? scriptdead mindphuking propaganda or 'celebrity' trivia 'foam'. meanwhile; don't forget to get a little more oxygen on yOUR brain, & look up in the sky from time to time, starting early in the day. there's lots going on up there.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/31/opinion/31mon1.html?em&ex=1199336400&en=c4b5414371631707&ei=5087%0A
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/world/29amnesty.html?hp
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/02/nasa.global.warming.ap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/06/05/severe.weather.ap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/06/02/honore.preparedness/index.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/opinion/01dowd.html?em&ex=1212638400&en=744b7cebc86723e5&ei=5087%0A
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/05/senate.iraq/index.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/17/washington/17contractor.html?hp
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/world/middleeast/03kurdistan.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080708/cheney_climate.html
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080805/pl_politico/12308;_ylt=A0wNcxTPdJhILAYAVQms0NUE
is it time to get real yet? A LOT of energy is being squandered in attempts to keep US in the dark. in the end (give or take a few 1000 years), the creators will prevail (world without end, etc...), as it has always been. the process of gaining yOUR release from the current hostage situation may not be what you might think it is. butt of course, most of US don't know, or care what a precarious/fatal situation we're in. for example; the insidious attempts by the felonious corepirate nazi execrable to block the suns' light, interfering with a requirement (sunlight) for us to stay healthy/alive. it's likely not good for yOUR health/memories 'else they'd be bragging about it? we're intending for the whoreabully deceptive (they'll do ANYTHING for a bit more monIE/power) felons to give up/fail even further, in attempting to control the 'weather', as well as a # of other things/events.
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dictator style micro management has never worked (for very long). it's an illness. tie that with life0cidal aggression & softwar gangster style bullying, & what do we have? a greed/fear/ego based recipe for disaster. meanwhile, you can help to stop the bleeding (loss of life & limb);
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/28/vermont.banning.bush.ap/index.html
the bleeding must be stopped before any healing can begin. jailing a couple of corepirate nazi hired goons would send a clear message to the rest of the world from US. any truthful look at the 'scorecard' would reveal that we are a society in decline/deep doo-doo, despite all of the scriptdead pr ?firm? generated drum beating & flag waving prop
Am I the only one who read the headline and thought "Sun Microsystems actually had a profitable month?" Doh!
Could this coincide with the upcoming Apocalypse on December 21st 2012?
... researching any connection with global warming.
is that our temps are at all time highs. Yes, it is down SLIGHTLY i.e. a very small local minima, not even close to an absolute minima. So, if there is a correlation to temps the way that ppl like you push, what happens when sunspots increase?
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Boy, I bet that left someone seeing black.
the Arctic ice refused to melt this summer. Does anyone remember the warning in June that the North Pole would be ice free?
Of course, their prediction was way off (as always). When someone realized how bad their prediction was, they fear monger some more with more dire warnings!
Remember that they have only been keeping sat. data for ice extent for a little over 3 decades, which of course is when the sun has been in a very active period.
If you have something that you dont want anyone to know, maybe you shouldnt be doing it in the first place -Eric Schmidt
Ah good - that gives me more time to get my HF antenna up. No sunspots - no HF radio propagation....now I can put off climbing up on the roof.
There is no God, and Dirac is his prophet.
Who cares about calendar months- have there ever been any other 30 day periods (say the 10th through the 9th) without spots?
As to how the Earth is heating up due to there being too few sun spots or birds are falling out of the sky and little children are being eaten by monsters at the worlds edge.
I'm really interested in stories about science but every one like this seems to be taken as an excuse for the uninformed to come up with todays hair brained theory to scare the masses. I wonder if we can link this to terrorism in some way.
I used to have a better sig but it broke.
Tokes for everyone !!
There are cooling trends, Vedic descriptions of the "Divine Day" and Easter calculations. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%2295+year+cycle%22&btnG=Search Ur Primitivz want theyr kalenderz back.
meh
Obviously caused by the people driving Hummers.
Read that as "The Sun has First Topless..", thought The Sun here in Toronto finally decided to spice up the Sunshine Girl.
History is not made by people, but by trends. The people who ride at the crest of the wave, and are in the spotlight, sometimes seem to be making history...but the only reason these people are in the position they are in, and the only reason their actions are effective, is because of the huge numbers of other people who empower them and obey them.
The current trends in America seem to be ignorance and pettiness tapered with sloth and fear. Bush and his antics are just a symptom of that, as will be Obama and his antics. I predict a lot of socialist posturing (because the majority of the American people today just want to be taken care of) and little that actually addresses any of the real problems of our day.
Eventually things will suck badly enough that the trends change. Until then, it will just be more of the same, no matter who is in office.
So,
I know sun spots are a different temp than the sun overall - has this had an effect on the energy output of the sun?
Clear, Dark Skies
I blame global warming.
Let me be the first to warn of impending global cooling. The increase of Arctic Ice by 30% in one year and the spotless sun, shows that the whole earth can be covered by ice sheets a mile thick in less than a decade. Everyone should run out and buy large SUVs to be able to negotiate the worsening road conditions for the few years we have left before glaciers destroy everything.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
(And moot now that the sunspeck appeared)
But presumably the sun is only spotless on the face that we can see, or do we know that the 'dark' side of the sun is also spotless. Given that it takes 25 days for the sun to rotate, a spot might flare up and we'd know nothing about it.
Or is there some solar observatory that I don't know about?
Genesis 1:32 And God typed
surely it must be so
I blame Bush. If he'd only signed the Kyoto Protocol everything would be just fine.
As a conservative I believe more power to the individual and local governments rather than federal, lower taxes, lower spending.
Conservatives are cautious about global warming because Liberals are trying to introduce legislation based on it. We are handcuffing business, raising taxes, and affecting our day-to-day lives because of "global warming."
If this is what has to be done, so be it. We have a federal government for a reason.
On the other hand there is plenty of evidence that Global Warming does not exist and it is being pushed by Liberals with an agenda. This is unacceptable. We should not be destroying our economy because of "maybes."
...my boyfriend panics.
it is well recorded that even a solitary volcano blasts disrupts global climate (see krakatoa)
why is it so hard for you to imagine the effects of over 6 billion humans burning fossil fuels, knocking down forests, etc, and dumping ever increasing amounts of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere?
i expect from you a litany of quibbling details
all of which fall secondary to the fucking obvious:
over 6 billion humans
slashing forest, burning fossil fuels
no effect at all in your mind?
hello?
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
After a bit of comment reading and Wikipedia reading, here's what has to be said to the global warning-related sarcasms. The sharp rise in temperatures is of course due to our activity, which is why we have nothing else like this rise in our long records of Earth temperatures dating back to hundreds of thousands of years ago (if I recall correctly). However, the high sun activity of the past century didn't help a bit, as it we reached at least 1,200 year activity high! Which means that if the downward trend is confirmed, this could be a God sent reprieve while we try to get hold of our gaseous emissions. In other words, yes it did contribute quite a bit to the problem, no it's not the sole root of the problem, or even the majority of it, and yes this is good news as the offset could be very beneficial to us. A fortunate coincidence of sorts.
I for one cannot wait until we can ice skate from New York City to London again!
You just got troll'd!
So many sign of the apocalypse to pick from this year!!!! lol
Since the sun rotates, the easiest it to just wait for it to turn around
wtf is with these posts in every thread? I'm not that new here, but I dont get it.
Why is everyone missing the obvious? The greenhouse gasses on earth are actually CAUSING the lack of sunspots! Don't you see? Not only will greenhouse gasses destroy our planet, they will destroy our solar system, our galaxy...and beyond. More proof of the terrible consequences of driving SUVs and using air conditioning.
Please don't use "umm" or "err" or "erm".
And I thought it was because I parked my SUT all month last month.
Is this going to be one of those "Look the tide just went out further than it's ever gone before!" things?
Could marveling at our wonderfully spotless sun be sort of like saying, "Let's all skip down on to the beach and pick up the pretty fish!"
Maybe I'm just a doom-and-gloom type, but when the source of all life on Earth suddenly changes it's behavior in some very perceptible way... I think that's maybe, you know... 'bad'.
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You unscientific clod! The is clearly yet another symptom of man made global warming!! Our population is now so big, and the number of cows we raise is so large, and the quantity of their flatulence is so great that the methane is reaching all the way to the sun!!
Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it.
So whether or not people could view small sun spots in the early 1900's aside. what does it all mean? Is there some sort of environmental changes (or otherwise) we can expect to see on the Earth as a result?
WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!
Has anyone asked Ken Shatten about this? For the latest weather on the sun -- http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/.
As for global warming, I was reminded by a friend that "the maximum temperature of Earth can be no higher than the maximum temperature of an equivalent black body, and the earth is approximately spherical and receives light from the sun on a cross-sectional area of a circle, but radiates thermal energy from the area of a sphere. The ratio of the spherical area to the circular area is four. Dividing the incoming energy flux by that gives the Earth an approximate maximum temperature of 285Kelvin. Again we have another inconsistency as this maximum temperature is below the widely reported global average temperature of 288Kelvin (17C). The maximum temperature found on the moon is approximately 390Kelvin." On Earth our maximum, like that of the moon, could be 117C. The official highest is around 57C, so we have another 60C possible increase!
The next solar sunspot peak was supposed to be around that time. Thats when there is the most solar storms and interference with satellites and electric grids.
It would either be "El Niño" or "La Niña", to match genders.
You were trying to refer to "La Niña", or a sustained sea surface temperature anomalies of magnitude greater than -0.5C across the central tropical Pacific Ocean.
(From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Ni%C3%B1o-Southern_Oscillation)
If I have nothing to hide, don't search me
blah blah yada yada global warming give me a break.
personally I blame solar warming and all the crap we're dumping in space
...how does it relate to the price of oil?
(That is the criteria for a news story these days, right?)
Best technique: Wait two weeks. The Sun's rotation is about 27 days.
I blame Windex and their new, improved glass polishing formula.
The focus is on CO2 because that's the variable we can most control to a degree that would make a difference. We can quantify the impact of other natural phenomena such as sunspots and, in fact, need to do so carefully in order to separate out human influence from nature. This is already being done, however, and is a core part of climate research.
As it turns out, change in solar output or in sunspots is not enough to account for the climate change trend. The former is very minor (the sun is quite stable) and the latter affects us in a minor way by blowing away (reducing) cloud cover and thus reducing the amount of energy that these clouds reflect back into space. A sunspot minimum thus ought to lead to cooling and yet our present average global temperature is higher than would be expected in the presence of this cooling despite being cooler than the past few years have been. That is, subtract out the known effects (which are cyclical and temporary)and you're left with a clear warming trend.
Of course the CO2 emissions have been almost flat under the environment friendly Bush administration versus the vicious Earth-rapers Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Look at this speadsheat.
Great, now I know why summer this year was, well, pretty nonexistant really.
It was just a cooler than normal summer. That's natural. It happens. The climate is not a static model that never changes, and frankly some of it's workings we don't understand yet, and may not for many years. But having the occasional cooler summer is no more worrisome than the occasional warmer summer. Frankly, living in the deep south, I appreciated the break this year, although it probably means we're in for a bitter winter.
Kinda funny though, how we had a mild summer, and yet in spring, you had all those people predicting that the arctic would be ice-free by July.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
I guess this had to happen eventually - the Sun, mother to our own Mother Earth, is having a "spotless" month - the great change is upon her. It can be a difficult adjustment - but it is, after all, a part of life...
Bow-ties are cool.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't UTC analogous to GMT? In that UTC == +0 GMT? That would put it at 4PM PST (-8 GMT). I suspect the poster/editor meant to say 5PM PDT (-7 GMT).
Until Netcraft confirms this, it hasn't happened.
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Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
Yup, completely unbiased there. No Problem. We'll just go with what you said.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
> All joking aside, does anyone else get the feeling they're changing the definition of a sunspot just so they can claim it was a spotless month?
Actually my thought was more the opposite. I have made spaceweather.com one of my daily visits. When it looked like a sunspot MIGHT be forming the official sunspot number went from zero to three. Eh? Don't you actually have to have a spot to count it? Then the area of interest went away and they put the number back at zero. Looks like somebody decided somebody jumped the gun and corrected the records.
Now why might this have happened? Why do papers predicting a period of low solar activity fail to be published (see the full articles)? Could it be the same reason scientific papers questioning global warming end careers without ever seeing the light of day? And of couse the refrain from the warmers is "all peer reviewed science supports man made Global Warming!" Science isn't becoming politicized, it IS politicized. Global Warming is the vehicle whereby "Scientific Socialism" is to bring untold political power to the 'elite educated and wise' few, and a rational planned and controlled world to the poor miserable peasants who would otherwise revert to cannibalism (or worse, a life of free markets without the elites) without their enlightened rule. Thus whether it is true or just a fairy tale is a question that must not be permitted to be entertained by 'serious people.' And the quickest way to ensure that is to define the phrase 'serious people' such that it excludes all who disagree with the official party policy.
Democrat delenda est
All, Interesting story but the official numbers are in and there were two days with spots for August (21,22). You can follow all the action at our http://spidr.ngdc.noaa.gov/ website which has SSN back to 1610 (among other indices). No doubt this cycle is unusual in its delayed start though. Regards, Eric
Isn't sun a bsd unix? Well, it's dying. This is further proof.
... Global Warmi... uh, Climate Change predicts this.
If DailyTech's nutter (Michael Asher / "masher2") says something is true, there's a pretty good chance that it isn't. That guy makes Fox News and Steven Milloy seem respectable. As such, it's safe to assume that, in reality, last month the Sun looked like a dalmatian.
Where is your evidence of valid "scientific papers questioning global warming ending careers without ever seeing the light of day"?
We have lots of real evidence of oil corporations funding fake science to deny climate change. Do you have real evidence of your conspiracy theory claims?
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STEREO A and B are more than 70 degrees apart, so you'd only need to wait 8.25 days from when it leaves the sight of STEREO A 'til it's seen by STEREO B. In a few years, we'll have real-time view of the far side of the sun. (until they come back around near Earth again)
Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
I can't believe all these science geniuses can't think to include precipitation into the predictions!
Last year was a very dry summer. This year was very very wet. So it would figure that more precipitation, or at least water vapour in the air would help keep the ice mass. Rain on ice in sub-zero temperature = more ice.
I re-reply to your comment in a more professional tone. This time I will grade your paper as I would have one of my students responding to an AGW question on one of my exams. Ahem.
Mars: correct — atmospheric CO2 causes global warming. Your supposition between a causal link between sunspot activity and the temperature of Mars is simplistic, in light of the fact that a) the Martian orbit is highly elliptical, changing the solar input over a factor of about 1.5 over the Martian year, resulting in b) CO2 does not remain in a gaseous state over the course of this year.
Grade: D
Jupiter's atmosphere contains almost no CO2; thus it cannot be used as a greenhouse gas. Also, Jupiter gives off twice as much energy as it receives, due to ongoing differentiation in its interior. The effects of this energy input into the atmosphere is complicated, and unlikely to causally affected by sunspot activity. Grade: F.
You attempt to prove your assertion that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas by begging the question. I've taught you better than that. Grade: F.
See you next semester. Or you could drop the class altogether and take up cleaning out horse stables. You seem familiar with the basics.
"I guess the moral of the story is, don't paint your airship with rocket fuel." -- Addison Bain
Al Gore was right. We will burn.
The sun has finally gotten a good monthly review. We were *this* close to firing it.
It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
Maybe the sun is pregnant!
Decreased sunspots results in reduced solar output according to the article. Reduced solar output might very well mean...COLD. Serious cold. A major planetary climate change to much colder winters and shorter summers might be only a year or two away. What might this mean? Some areas of Europe and North America would become uninhabitable. Shelters and transportation would need to be provided for migration from those areas. There would be a worldwide shortage of food due to crop failure in the newly-cold areas. Other areas that are currently poor for agriculture due to limited precipitation and excessive heat would improve and become new fertile areas, provided that equipment and resources can be sent there quickly. Global cooling would be a much bigger problem than global warming because it would happen relatively quickly giving us little time to prepare.
I bet those pesky Hydrogues are at it again. First they blow up our fleet at Jupiter and now they want to wreck our sun. How big of a deal is it to just let a few ekti harvesters float around in the planetary atmosphere?
The lazy ass Verdani remind me of the apathetic American society. Get off your ass and don't be such a burn out. Step into the the ring and swing and put the lights out on these mofo's.
ZERO ZERO ONE ZERO ONE ZERO ONE ONE! Just brushing up for my next big invention: Ethernet over Voice (EoV)
Just wait until she begins having hot flashes. Then we're in trouble...
Smell that? You smell that? Burning karma, son. Nothing in the world smells like that...
Tell her to reread the part about being 'good stewards' of the Earth. Most Christians are pretty sure that means we have responsibility towards the environment.
Yes, there are some people so mired in politics that they can't separate the good from the bad. But I don't think most Christians want that, whatever others say of them.
But point out the part in Revelation about, "[...] and that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, and those who fear Your name, small and great, and should destroy those who destroy the earth." Not to mention all the talk about 'stewardship'. All normal churches say that it applies to the environment and that we have a duty to care for it.
Even fringe groups like RaptureReady say they're only against liberal environmental politics, not against saving the environment. Of course, they're one of the groups too tied to politics so it's hard for them to separate the two.
Most of us are more normal than that. Most of us don't give a damn about the politics and just want to do what makes sense to protect our environment.
But you don't hear about most of us, because we don't make the news by doing idiotic things like protesting funerals, praying for storms to rain on our political enemies, or whatever other mean-spirited nonsense those "Christians" are doing today.
Obviously, you don't make the news by being normal.
holly cow, it must be pregnant.
we most likely will die out, does not mean that we MUST hasten the process along. That is why we need to get off this rock.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
In the 95 years since 1913, we've had quite an active sun
Could the active Sun and not mankind be the reason for global warming? Discuss
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Actually you're very wrong on all 3 counts.
Muslims don't believe they're stewards of the earth, they don't believe they have any control at all (given their average government, that may be a truth however). Muslims have predatory farming practices. Only Jews really believe in their stewardship of the earth, and Christians believe they're stewards, not of the earth, but of Gods people, for them earth is a tool to grow humanity. Sure, abuse is to be prevented, and it must remain possible to keep doing that in the long term, but that's it. If that means covering the planet in solar panels, eradicating all but token forests, then that should be fine with Christian theology. The main difference between muslim views and christian ones is that Christians believe they can change the earth to do their bidding. So do Jews, but they try to change the earth only insofar necessary to protect what is already there.
In the Dharmic faiths certainly the Sikh, but they're not alone in this don't believe they steward the earth.
And Taoic religions don't even believe the earth exists, never mind that it is to be cared for. Their "average" principle is that the earth will die anyway - a millenia earlier or later doesn't really change things. Neither does a million years earlier. Every last Taoic faith agrees with Christianity in that it considers human concern superior to nature's concerns.
Even your "not being wiped off the planet" stuff is ridiculous. In an extremely broad sense you're perhaps right, but then you'd have to include the hindu ideal, put somewhat disrespectfully : to pursue money, sex and enlightenment (which used to be in practice equivalent to holding political power, even if not in theory).
That's how a Hindu prevents himself from being "wiped off the earth" : money, sex and power. Christians would advise abstention from same (esp. power) in order to prevent being wiped off the earth. Sorry if I offend anyone's sensibilities, but I am trying to make the point that there are differences between religions, that can often spill over, esp. with a certain religion, into the political realm, GW policy being part of that.
So really you're only right for a single, tiny religion, Judaism.
No. The sun has shown a slight cooling trend over the last 3 decades. Not only is the sun not contributing to global warming, it has had a slight, long term cooling effect.
Determining the long term solar trend
(There are numerous peer reviewed science journal papers referenced in that link.)
(Sorry, I wasn't paying attention, this should be further on. I was agreeing with the GP but placed the post wrong. Mod offtopic?)
While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease. - Genesis 8:22
None of the prophecies in Scripture describe anything like global warming or climate change as a sign of the "end times."
So, is it because of Global Warming or is it all Dubya's fault?
We have seen many spotless months in the last year. See http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ http://www.solarcycle24.com/ and various parts of the propagation reports and predictions at http://www.arrl.org./
Typical Slashdot- publishing crap without verifying a shred of it.
because "if the entire east coast.." doesn't sound like a prophesy to me. It sounds like, oh, I dunno, an EXAMPLE.
But I suppose your sky fairy fantasy is being attacked in your mind.
I may have missed a few, but this is the first post that mentioned that sunspots are associated with higher solar output. I expected more like this.
Perhaps for now, but prom season is coming up.
No, that is NOT true. We have gobs of evidence the water will rise. In fact it is rising.
There is on evidence a god exists.
Of course, if this women has evidence there is a god, then that would changed thing. Thousands of years with no evidence, some how I doubt she has something new.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
144,000 disappear.
"You non-christians are left to fend for yourselves. "
I wish.
Also it is mentioned happening at three different times. Each counterdicting the other.
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
There's no malice on the part of one willing to wreck the world economy to fight global warming and starving millions of people to do it??
So was it the only 31-day (for the sake of argument) period that was spotless during all those years or was it the only such period that lined up with the idea of time that we call month?
Oh, and of course I didn't RTFA.
Wow. I'm glad I'm not a Christian anymore.
if ratpure wipes out all Christians, where is the disadvantage?
(sarcasm) A US govt without Christians might have been a good thing. Perhaps rapture will solve the rest of the world's problems. (/sarcasm)
Did you actually read the article, including clarification at the end?
""it is clear that the NSIDC graph is correct, and that 2008 Arctic ice is barely 10% above last year - just as NSIDC had stated.""
So the register did an article to refute the NSIDC, then at the end said they were correct.
And quoting the register? seriously? It's horrible with it's data 'interpretation'
The Kruger Dunning explains most post on
There's some cheap land next to me, here in central Georgia (the one that wasn't attacked by Russia), that would make nice beachfront property...
Impetuous! Homeric!
Begs the question: How many of 'em were available in 1913?
Orwell: "In a Time of Universal Deceit, telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act"
Apparently he likes the NYTimes and CNN. Of course reading and listening to those guys can make ya a little loopy.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
The rapture is an idea that came up in the 1800s so it's not like Christians have been predicting it for centuries.
- Peace
Free as in "the Truth shall set you..."
Everybody knows it's full of spots on the back side.
Claiming to be pedantic on Slashdot is asking for trouble
So if the Sun is female, maybe she's pregnant?
We had 3.3% (annual rate) growth last quarter. After 9/11, two wars, Katrina, subprime meltdown, housing slump, and rising petroleum prices that's better than Jimmy Carter could have done!
...where too much is still not enough.
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Nothing to look backward to with pride, and nothing to look forward to in hope.
The Soviets and the Chinese managed to starve millions of people just with central planning alone. They weren't even worried about pollution. Imagine the combination of the two.