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NIH Spends $400K To Figure Out Why Men Don't Like Condoms
The National Institutes of Health has given $423,500 to researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute to figure out why men don't like to wear condoms. The institute will also study why men have trouble using condoms and investigate "penile erection and sensitivity during condom application." "The project aims to understand the relationship between condom application and loss of erections and decreased sensation, including the role of condom skills and performance anxiety, and to find new ways to improve condom use among those who experience such problems," reads the abstract from Drs. Erick Janssen and Stephanie Sanders, both of the Kinsey Institute.
Because the men who don't like condoms are dicks?
qed
It's because all men secretly want to pay child support.
Boy are you barking up the wrong tree!
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ummmm how about you just give me the cash and I'll tell you what will be in the report..... boot to da head as me and my friends used to always say.
For men with smaller or chopped foreskins, condoms interfere with sexual pleasure and frankly, when I'm in bed with a beautiful naked girl, the last thing I need is for a cock sock. Pretty naked girl overrides sanity, to the point where if the condom gets in the way, the logical answer is to rip it off and go without.
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Glad to see that the US has a big surplus in the budget that we can afford to fund this stuff.
Maybe because it feels like you're trying to mate with a garden hose.
Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.
Because it feels like picking your nose while wearing a latex glove....?
I will take that $400k now, thanks.
I'd volunteer to test the sensation part.
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I for one will volunteer heartily for this *ahem* study.
Hold up, wait a minute, let me put some pimpin in it
I'll just point out that in a steady relationship it's _the_ most reliable method of birth control and the cheapest and simplest to implement long-term.
"I bless every day that I continue to live, for every day is pure profit."
They smell bad, they distract from the spontenaity of the moment, they decrease sensitivity, they're never handy at the moment you want them, they're disgusting to take off, they're awkward to dispose of.
Despite that they're a good trade when weighed against the possibility of 18 years of child support, or your penis turning green and falling off.
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it can make your dick go limp
its the same as being in a sexually arousing situation and suddenly being asked to fill out form 1040A and pay your taxes right now
(with apologies to all of the IRS fetishists)
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Stimulus....package
Too easy. (not hard?)
STOP NOW!
Lurking at the bottom of the gravity well, getting old
Another $100,000 will be used to investigate why people don't like to wear wet socks
I'm sure they've heard all the reasons. Why not just ask them at a rate of $20 per hour.
Can you really call it "making love" if you have to put on plastic gloves like a freakin' subway sandwich artist? Really intimate...
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Another issue, and one might say more important, is that there are so few options for men for birth control. Let's see, we have... condoms or sterilization. Great. One isn't reliable and the other can have serious side effects. How about we put that money into researching new and improved methods that have fewer and less severe side effects? Personally I would absolutely take hormonal treatments if the side effects were reasonable. It drives me crazy that as a society we are complacent with half our population not having a reliable and effective means for preventing unwanted pregnancy. Better yet things like RISUG would be absolutely wonderful, yet they don't get researched in western bureaucracy because it wouldn't be profitable enough than having people constantly paying for condoms or hormones. The injustice that has befallen us males is absolutely cause for a revolution in how we conduct health care in our society.
If it's to study "why men don't like condoms", as it is being widely reported, then yes, the study is a waste of money. The reason is obvious to anybody that's ever used one.
However, if the study is "how can we FIX what men don't like about condoms", then the study becomes very important, and might benefit society immensely. If a condom could be constructed that didn't impede feeling at all, there would be huge benefits, a great reduction in unwanted pregnancies.
Also, if they made one that felt BETTER, we could eliminate women altogether.
the lifetime cost of treating an HIV-positive person exceeds $400,000 and can run as high as $648,000
(http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid19334.asp)
So, if only TWO PEOPLE on government health care (Medicaid, Medicare, Veterans or Prisoners) DON'T get AIDS as a result of this study, then it saved us money.
I'd say that's a pretty good investment.
Condoms are the biggest con around. You have to buy them in a three pack, you use one to test for fit, then you notice they have a use-by date only four years away!!
They whose government reduces their essential liberties for temporary security, receive neither liberty nor security.
"Come on baby, it's for science!"
Because they rip off half of my pubes during the money shot.
Because bareback is the way mother nature intended and it feels a hell of allot better. My first girlfriend at first insisted on using condoms each time and I had no problem with that. Then one night right in the heat of the moment my rubber broke while putting it on. She pretty much just said to hell with it and we did it with no condom. At that point we liked the feeling so much better that we stopped using condoms and I just pulled out every time. After a scare she decided to go on birth control which increased the fun as I could now finish the job without worrying about being a father. She put on some weight (like 7 pounds) and that was enough for her to quit the pill. We went out for three years and contraception was only used for a total of about 6 months of that with no pregnancy. Not too bad. Although after her I always use rubbers after learning a friend got his girlfriend pregnant even though he pulled out.
So its a big fucking no duh as to why men don't want to use rubbers. I still wish I could be that naive and uncaring but I have to be smart.
This money is part of the $1T Porkulus package. This is what happens when politicians fix things.
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Finally our tax dollars doing something useful :-P
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i could handle all of the griefers and lamers and the dupes
but the racism really bothers me
i thought nothing in that cesspool would get to me, but k5 just kept sinking and getting sleazier by the day. so now i know my limits: i can't handle racists, i have nothing for them except revulsion
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As soon as the lady friend looks at you as a serious boyfriend they want to get rid of the condom. So to keep the rika-rika going the man says sure. Why the lady says that? Get another $400,000.
But don't ask anyone on Slash/Virgin.
Two reasons: 1. I'm too drunk to know better 2. I'm usually by myself
I think guys are biologically programmed to want to cum as deep inside a girl as possible. (at least I am) It feels so much better and more fulfilling. Whenever I clear the pipes inside the condom (at least when the reservoir is small) it's always disappointing. I can feel it hit that latex barrier. Even with pulling out, you've always gotta go somewhere. The second best place is the mouth of course...
My girlfriend says that she finds it hott when I cum inside her.
Granted, condoms are definitely worth it for the risk-reducing factor. The new Durex Avanti synthetic latex are pretty nice. Reservoir stretches out pretty nicely. Also the natural-lamb but they are hella expensive and don't prevent stds...
The article is more FOX then news, as if focuses on the people complaining about it. This is the network who's only endorsed form of sex-ed is abstinence "education."
You might be quibling on the pricetag, but if this could increase condom use it could have incredible healthcare benefits. And you know what, ultra-right-wing pundits?, greater condom use = less abortions; pick your f-ing battles.
Such short sightedness, you gotta be a Repub.
I knew when I saw this news item that it would turn out to be dishonest. There is one very obvious reason why men don't like to wear condoms ("it doesn't feel as good...duh"). So I suspected immediately that this isn't actually what the study is about, and it's just a matter of a politician or lobbyist phrasing it this way to try to score a cheap shot at the expense of the public welfare. Because, of course, there is a huge public benefit to condoms: The reduce unwanted pregnancies, which often end up imposing a substantial financial and social burden on the public. And they reduce the spread of diseases that also end up costing the public money, not to mention placing those dear to us in peril--sometimes mortal peril.
And while men don't much like condoms, there are many reasons for them to want to use them--to protect themselves against disease, to protect themselves against unwanted financial obligations, and even out of consideration for their partner's well-being.
So any change that would shift that balance a bit to encourage correct usage of condoms, even by a small amount, could provide a huge public benefit.
But of course, there are always going to be some selfish people who don't care about protecting other people's health, or reducing the financial burden on the public from diseases and unwanted pregnancies. All they see is a chance to score a benefit for themselves or their own cause--and if it ultimately at the expense of the public, well, that's not their problem.
....every time I see the rubber it reminds me of her.
Man has sex 100 times, randomized half with condom, half without and he doesn't know which during the sex.
Rate each time and see if sex with condom isn't as good.
I volunteer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Men hate condoms because it's like cutting to comercials right before the end of a good movie. You're really into the story, you really want to find out who's the killer and then Bam! five minute break. Might as well go get a sandwich or something.
I always thought Japan was way ahead of N. America when it came to condom manufacturing. A lot of the Japanese condoms I've tried (Crown, Kimono, etc.) are very thin, yet strong. It almost feels like you are wearing nothing at all.
I discovered that housepaint is made from latex. Condoms are made from latex.
Now I keep a can of Sears Weather-beater next to my bed.
"The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." ~Plato (427-347 BC)
Being asked to wear a condom is like being offered a sumptuous feast prepared by your favorite chef and then being told you won't be able to taste it. Sure, you can eat the meal, feel somewhat sated afterward, but you've lost all the delicate and bold flavors, the textures and sensations. You've lost the joy of the experience, even if you aren't [as] hungry afterward.
If you have to pay researchers to study why men don't like condoms, then that says a LOT for the sexual lives of both parties.
Seriously, folks, this is why school isn't just about academics.
from Drs. Erick Janssen and Stephanie Sanders, both of the Kinsey Institute.
Erick: Hey Steph, I'll give you $100,000.00 if you sleep with me a few times.
Stephanie: How many times is a few?
Erick: Until we reach statistical significance.
Steph: Cash?
Erick: Sure.
Two weeks later, Erick pockets the other 300 Grand.
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A lot of women don't like for men to wear them also. And it doesn't matter what flavor they come in.
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i suppose its better than olfactory nerves
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Feels like masturbating with a pink pearl (TM)
If you must moderate, please moderate as irrelevent, not something bad, because I'm sure someone will find this interest
that has complaints about the false sense of security that condoms offer?
how many of us have experienced condoms breaking during intercourse? what about when they start rolling back just a little, and then come off during intercourse?
alternatively, i have also tried a few different types of condoms, and the ones that i thought were best were the sheepskin type and a micro-thin type. in all seriousness, they were not noticeable... but i still don't trust them enough.
From the NIH CRISP db:
http://crisp.cit.nih.gov/crisp/CRISP_LIB.getdoc?textkey=7619840&p_grant_num=1R21HD060447-01&p_query=(condom)&ticket=97286703&p_audit_session_id=473066379&p_audit_score=100&p_audit_numfound=1&p_keywords=condom
Abstract: DESCRIPTION (provided by applicant): Sexually transmitted infections (STI), including human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), pose significant health risks. About half of the new HIV infections in the US are among people under age 25 years with the majority infected through sexual behavior. About one in three new diagnoses with HIV/AIDS are attributed to heterosexual transmission. Men who have sex with women play a major role in HIV transmission to women who can also pass it on to offspring. Consistent and correct use of condoms can be a highly effective method of preventing the transmission of HIV and many STIs. Yet, studies show that problems with condom use are common and that these problems pose a barrier to consistent and complete condom use. This project aims to advance our understanding of, among other factors, the role of cognitive and affective processes and condom application skills in explaining problems with condom use in young, heterosexual adult men. A multi-method approach - consisting of two studies and involving questionnaires, observational, and psychophysiological methods - will be used in conjunction with a skill-based intervention. The knowledge gained from the proposed research can be used to inform the development of innovative, more effective, and targeted intervention and education strategies tailored to the needs of individuals who have trouble using condoms effectively. PUBLIC HEALTH RELEVANCE: Sexually transmitted infections (STI), including human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), pose significant health risks. Consistent and correct use of condoms can be a highly effective method of preventing the transmission of HIV and many STIs, yet studies show that problems with condom use are common. This project is one of the first to examine under controlled conditions the role of cognitive and affective factors and condom skills in explaining condom use problems in young, heterosexual adult men.
Pretty naked girl overrides sanity
The savvy ones can use that power to order a guy to do anything. If they can keep you wondering, they can get you to agree to use one. The pretty ones with good self esteem also realize that they have other choices if you don't want to cooperate.
I went through about 8 years of unprotected sex before I started using condoms.
It always stressed me out a ton, and I tried to use them but I would lose my erection in less than 10 seconds every time..
So it was either no sex AT ALL, EVER. Or unprotected sex.
I talked about that problem, and asked for help, but all I got was a bunch of bullshit answers.
Try having the girl put the condom on.. etc lame stuff that like that, which had absolutely nothing to do with the issue.
The issue was that the condoms were too small (circumference), and they were cutting off my circulation!
When I moved up to the larger sized condoms, suddenly everything worked for me.
So I'd like to give a big f-you to our education system for failing me and exposing me to years of risk needlessly.
I went for help with this issue multiple times and nobody every told me the real problem.
It doesn't feel the same as raw - but my god condoms are a lot better now that they're the right size.
And no - this is not some "my penis is big" internet tough guy lame speech.
Unprotected sex is a pretty serious health risk, and I can't be the only guy that had this problem
Hold plastic bag over the head of the NIH director until he hands over the $400K.
Have gnu, will travel.
Because they don't let my penis touch the vagina (which is the whole idea). You can have that answer for 10% of the cost of the study.
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... and the study mentioned in the article makes perfect sense. The article is propaganda that intentionally misunderstands what the study is about in order to stir up their readership.
In one of our studies of (mostly queer) sexually active teenagers. One of the key things we look at is condom use knowledge and condom errors. Most people know that they should use a condom if they're having sex, but quite a large swath of the population doesn't know how to *properly* use them and what they do and do not protect against. Some people are perfectly willing to use condoms, but they get frustrated because they're using them wrong, and so the condoms break or come off, and they stop using them out of frustration.
One measure we give is we have 20 different "steps" for using a condom properly, and they're out of order, and some are not real steps. Out of ~250 teenagers, most of whom have taken sex ed, been exposed to safer sex info all their lives, only 6 got that exercise 100% correct (all real steps in proper order, all fake steps removed), and only 42 got all the real steps in the correct order (but kept some of the fake steps). The kids have been taught, but retention isn't so hot - we're coming up with better ways to teach this.
Another measure we have is taking an inventory of experiences with recent condom use, and most of our participants report some level of difficulty with condom use, with most of those reports coming along the lines of it being too confusing to remember all of the steps they were taught while in the heat of the moment etc. They want to use condoms, but they've learned all of that in a very "academic" environment - we're trying to develop interventions that will help teach people how to handle themselves when they're not at their most rational.
A final measure we give which is related to condom use is an HIV & STI knowledge quiz with true, false and "don't know" answers. Most of our participants score 70% or better, but certain segments average scores below 30%. By identifying the lagging segments and then examining what it is that is leading to this dearth of HIV & STI knowledge, we're able to come up with plans to get this information out to those groups because the current techniques clearly aren't working.
It's neither an obvious nor simple area of research, despite what some in this thread will say. $400k to potentially save quite a few lives (or protect the quality of many lives) is a bargain. If you're a wretched excuse for a human being and you think that people who get HIV "deserve" it, you probably don't care that a lifetime of treatment for a single case of HIV infection will run around $400-500k (minimum) so this kind of research is also cost effective from that standpoint.
Since I can't tell them apart, I treat all ACs as the same person.
Obama didn't waste one bit of our taxpayer money with his wishlist....I mean stimulus plan.
400 grand is less than a minute of military spending the United States. But no one is allowed to mention that fact in the "liberal" media.
Can anyone explain to me how killing a suspected terrorist and their neighbors with a few hundred thousand dollars of ammunition is a better investment than this study? Anyone?
Problem solved.
Women don't have to worry about losing (ahem) enthusiasm while putting on a condom. Also, they have more motivation to insure that they don't get pregnant.
I may not be a smart man, but I know what an inode is.
As a woman, I'm not keen on them either. They seem to increase friction and chafing, even with lube. Oddly, the ribbed ones seem better on this front - perhaps because the ribs break the seal.
$400k when any guy who's used one can give them the answer for free in a 5 minute phone call. Q: Why don't you wear a condom during sex? A: Because I can't feel a damn thing!
One major reason, (and as far as I know, there isn't any scientific evidence to support either the truth or the falsity of this argument,) is that even after having extensive condom-protected sex, the brain somehow thinks that you still haven't had sex. In my experience, one can get off in any number of ways that do not actually involve ejaculating inside a woman's vagina, and the grinding "need for sex" feeling never goes away. The pipes may be clean, relaxation may have set in, arousal may be difficult for a while, but I still feel like I haven't had sex, (the same result as having a wank.) I don't know how or why that occurs, but somehow, the brain *knows*. Maybe women have a substance in their vaginal secretions or something that gets absorbed by the tallywhacker thereby setting the "successfully mated" flag somewhere. I read an article a while ago that said something about the cervix secreting something that acts as a beacon for sperm so they know which way to go to find the egg. Perhaps the schlong needs to be exposed to that in order for satisfaction to be achieved?
The other thing that I don't hear talked about that effects me with regard to condoms is that after going at it for a while, (usually not that long,) I start getting significant peehole irritation. Once that starts to set in, I know I've got only a minute or two more before I'm not going to be able to stand it anymore -- it hurts like hell. The minute or two being contingent upon any pleasurable feelings overriding the discomfort enough that the discomfort doesn't cause rapid boner deflation. I wonder if that is caused by the lubricant that comes with the condom being of poor quality. That lubricant always feels very different from any other sex lube; the lube on "lubricated for someone's hypothetical pleasure" condoms usually feels kind of gritty.
Disclosure: I am circumsized. I once asked why my folks had me circumsized, and it was reported that the hospital just did it automatically. I wonder if they lied to me -- that the hospital would do it without asking first seems so ridiculous as to be implausible, but then again, I was born in the late 70s in America where circumcision was supposedly the norm. Messed up, that is. I'm glad American society seems to at least not be doing that automatically any more.
That you can get funding for most anything if you make it sound scientific.
Where is my cut of the pie? "Why do people like to breathe air"
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You and anyone who moderates you up are seriously poor thinkers.
Condoms are used to stop sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies. They have costs to the population, and they are certainly greater than $400,000.
Also increased sales of condoms are good for business.
I presume you believe that would be "a good thing"?
It must be because The Market (blessings and peace be upon its holy name and works) says so.
Please learn to use your brain. Or at least realise that you are talking to adults who can see through your disingenuous talking points.
unless you don't mind having kids
WOOT!
As long as you (the tax payer) is providing... the more the merrier.
If I have 50 tax payer supported kids now, sure, their life may suck, but in 100 years, my offspring will OWN your offspring, in sheer numbers if nothing else!
This issue is a bit more complicated than you think.
I did not read every single pots, just most of them but i don't mind wearing condoms. aside from the cheep deli condom brand there are plenty of condoms that not only don't prevent sensation but sometime enhance it.
beside i much prefer having used one when, after a while i want to go for a conilingus (how do you spell it anyway??), it prevents me from getting that white salty taste into my mouth.
It's like taking a shower with a raincoat on.
I'd rather not have sex than have it with a condom eliminating the thrill.
I read the script, and I think it would help my character's motivation if he was on fire. -Bender
...recent findings indicate that it may actually increase a person's risk of contracting STDs, especially if used frequently. This is because the chemical causes tiny abrasions inside the sensitive vaginal and anal walls. These abrasions may make transmission more likely especially if condoms are not used.
from Wikipedia
The fact of some men use condoms all the time, some not, is meaningless. It is irrelevant. Condoms are unpleasant and often painful. Some men will do the right thing and just be happy enough to be getting action while using a condom, while others find the insensitivity/discomfort/pain to be intolerable. That's not the point.
The point is that condoms *are* uncomfortable, reduce stimulation, and are often painful for the larger gents out there. There are not reliable size measurements and selections for condoms, which means that guys who are well endowed end up being shrink-wrapped like a damn hoagie. The end 'ring' of the condom is even tighter and less elastic than the rest of the device, which means that you get a rather painful crushing feeling where that ring comes to rest, which can (and does) result in a *bruise*. So when you factor in the fact that even when it isn't painful, it feels like you're not so much having sex as rubbing up against a deflated balloon, it's easy to see why condoms don't get used anywhere near as often as they should.
Condoms aren't good enough. A better way must be found.
(have been with my woman for almost a decade - condoms are a distant memory for me. :D )
Invariably, your lady-friend will depart to go to the bathroom at some point during foreplay. In her absense, slip it on and no harm done.
Failing the bathroom scenario, it's easy enough to slip it on while making out. Multi-task, gentlemen!
You mean it isn't what happens if you masturbate too much with both hands?
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Here's a tag for this story:
"One of many ways to waste $423,500"
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I am circumcised and I get off fine with a condom on. Once I'm doing the deed, it feels great.
For me, the problems are before and after:
Thoughts? Any other reasons why condoms aren't fun?
It may just be my wife, but after getting married and actually trying for children, my wife reports a much better general health and hormone balance. That's been going on for over half a year now, and while she isn't pregnant yet, she feels a lot better overall than during the time I didn't... deliver... the package... into the house... (maybe better a car analogy?)
Anyone with similar observations?
Having problems holding-back before pleasing your partner? Put a condom on and fuck her brains out. After she's come several times, pull it off and jack off all over her tits.
She'll think you're the best thing since her Rabbit and you'll feel like a pr0n star.
People wonder where our tax money is wasted?
Another fine effort from the Thundering Herd of Dumbass formerly known as Congress.
Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
A wise man does not make chasing after pleasure a priority but makes avoiding pain one. I view sex from a utilitarian perspective a practical Aristotelianism. Sex is to reproduce from a evolutionary and biological point of view therefore having sex with a condom is trivial and hedonism. I'm pretty anti-sensual in general. Don't want kids or STDs ? Simply don't have sex instead of using a condom. Using a condom just isn't as pleasurable so the only reason I can see for doing it is perhaps to get to an intimidate level with a female partner but players that go around sleeping with lots of people with condoms and have no significant relationships with their partners make no sense to me. So I choose celibacy over sex with a condom (yes I really can practice self-restraint even with a beautiful woman).
It's far from clear why men don't like to wear condoms and women don't like for men to wear condoms. The former is probably more likely, but the latter isn't unheard of. Sensitivity issues enter in, but there is certainly a psychological issue involved as well. You aren't skin on skin, not really. With the adult products now, some situations I'm not even sure a lot of people could pass a double-blind. However, there is also correct use, being able to get people to use it correctly (both for effectiveness and for not messing it up). You won't be in your right mind at the time. Or, at least that's what we're all hoping you won't be. So it kind of matters how much is what here and you won't get answers out of humans (yes, I'm one) because it doesn't work like that. Take out ten edge cases of people who would have otherwise not used rubber and you've easily paid for yourself (in actual cash, they have to be raised/treated). Not sure if that's the states job, but at least it's pretty likely to not be a waste. If, oddly, it produces nothing then at least we know a little more about the matter which would be handy.
Of course Fox News is reporting things even across the board, rather than engaging in yellow journalism. Their reputation is such that they don't need to research the grant itself or the ongoing project it stems from.
NIH has been funding AIDS related research for over 25 years. This includes behavioral research regarding risky behaviors such as unprotected sex. That's going to produce results long before any research into vaccines or cures.
The first question that comes to mind is how many saved lives would be worth US$432,500? The second is how much is the Kinsey Institute's time worth, keeping in mind it's going to pay the salaries of researchers, technicians and assistants for the duration? Along with that, consider that any research done under any academic umbrella ends up paying a significant cut off the top to the university. The amount varies, but I've had one university try to take 70% off the top.
Anyone that thinks they could do such things better for less are free to submit proposals to NIH. They make it very clear how to go about it. In order to be able to judge whether the amount quoted is unreasonable one would have to be able to evaluate such a proposal in its own terms, if not be qualified to put one together. I find it hard to believe that the person that Fox News calls "government watchdogs" (pluralizing being a perfectly allowable journalistic technique) is qualified to evaluate the text of the grant proposal to point out just what parts of it are wasteful, what parts are just overpriced, and what parts are reasonable, rather than pointing at the whole thing without reading any of it and making a sweeping claim.
"I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
I'd have to agree on the Trojans. Way too damn tight, and nothing sucks quite as much as having your little friend being squeezed and chaffed. I've found that Durex tend to fit a little better in that regard though, and besides, who the heck decided to name a condom Trojan... you know, like the group who supposedly snuck their little soldiers secretly into the enemy fortress.
Rain-slicker in a massage parlor. ( $100,000 )
"I thought you would have one" ( $50,000 )
Barrier to entry ( $200,000 )
"but there are two of you" ( $50,000 )
Short sheeted. ( $100,000 )
( hooker expenses needed to derive these results: $23,500 ).
I think you underestimate just how much I just dont care.
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There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.
I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.
You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
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Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.
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Damn, my RAM is full of cats. MEOW!!
I am uncircumcised and have never been able to successfully use a condom.
If I put the condom on while the skin is rolled up, the skin remains rolled up and I feel *absolutely* nothing.
If I roll it down and then put the condom on, it feels good for about 10 seconds before it starts to feel like I am making love to sandpaper and just gets worse and worse.
I have tried different condoms, latex, non-latex, all with the same results.
Anyone else with similar experiences? Any ideas?
Geez, what a waste of money.
I coulda told them why for only $100,000!
Please learn to use your brain. Or at least realise that you are talking to adults who can see through your disingenuous talking points.
If we had a budget surplus, this wouldn't be such an issue. We're charging this on the gov't VISA. Spending future taxpayer's money should be scrutinized vigorously.
Seriously, it'll improve the relationship. She has a phobia that she can get you pregnant, and getting-out of the closet more will eventually lead her to a psychotherapist.
Honestly, I'm not hung like a horse or anything - but I've got massive girth - I'd have better luck with a freezer bag!
It's all fun and games till my cock goes numb and turns blue...
I've looked for larger ones, perhaps it's just Australia or the crap town I live in, but I've found 3 sizes larger then "regular" and not only are they all too small, the larger ones are completely without variety - no 'extra sensitive' no 'ribbed for her pleasure' just plain old 'you'd have more fun wearing an innertube'
*edit: great captcha - springs*
Pour two glasses of warm water. In the first glass stick your finger in, notice your finger now feels warm and wet. In the second glass place your finger in again, this time covered with a plastic bag, you will notice it feels similar, warm but not wet. That will be $423,500 please.
It's one thing for men to not like condoms, and it's quite another for them to not use them altogether even when they're aware it's needed. Most everybody knows they can be uncomfortable, reduce sensitivity, smelly, and all that, not to mention they kill the mood when you're aroused. However, they're necessary! So why be ignorant?
I'm currently living in Brazil and it's consensus here that condoms must be worn. I'd wager a bet it has something to do with the openness with which we talk about sex. Condoms are distributed by the government at health centers and schools. Plenty of government ads promote the usage of condoms (especially during february). This seems to affect mostly younger people (up to 24 years), but the results are reasonable: 68% of the people between 15 and 24 years old used a condom during their last sexual relation with a non-fixed partner.
Also, I think porn plays a role on this. It's actually common to see condoms in brazilian porn! Not so on american porn.
the good, thin and reliable
I'd say pick two. Hell, most of the time it's pick one !
I've yet to find a type of condom that I couldn't break just by having sex.
Yes, even the 'extra strong' types. It's one of the downsides of having a much thicker than average member. And 'thin' and 'reliable' tend to be mutually exclusive.
I've yet to find a non-latex condom that's big enough.
Their added durability may allow for thinner condoms but they're of no use if I can't even put them on! (Damn euro standard size condoms) At least the normal condoms can be stretched a little if they're not big enough to just roll on....
Plus the non-latex condoms tend to be a bit too costly for constant use anyway.
Strangely, in my experience it is women who don't like condoms. I like the impression of safety they give me and don't mind the slightly different sensation during intercourse. It's a price I gladly pay.
But many women I know much prefer to go without condoms. Some will actually use condoms for safety, but others really insist on not using a condom. I've always found that odd. They have various reasons: prefer the feeling without condom, feel more connected with their partner without a condom, allergic to rubber or the spermicides or the lubricant, religious objection and, a distant last, actually want to get pregnant.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
When Pronto condoms (or the rights/designs for them) make it to Europe and the USA it will be a Good Day.
These things can be applied in less than one second
We are driven to do stuff because of the make up of our brain. Natural selection inevitably dictates that those practices which tend to result in more offspring will be favoured over those that do not.
That's why men who want to f*** women without having an intervening layer of latex are more common that those who prefer it.Those that use them, usually do so under sufferance. It's not a rational decision to attain an end; it isn't an illness; it's just something which is hard wired into the brain.
For what it's worth, that's also why homosexuals are a minority (meaning no judgement there), It's also why men who are attracted to old age pensioners are few in number, why paedophiles do not dominate society and so on. Those practices just don't result in offspring. The latter also happens to provoke a strong reaction from parents - another drive hard coded into our brains, which serves to maximise the likelihood that our children will survive.
There is no dysfunction; that's just a bit of jargon used by members of the majority persuasion to make their rivals outcasts - another natural tendency driven by natural selection.
If you ever wonder why you like something or dislike something or why you favour a political party even, just think about what it means for your offspring and you'll likely as not understand what is driving you. You don't have any choice in it.
One last point. Begin a slave to our drives is not to say that we have no control over them.
Can't agree more. After 12 years married we still have sex marathon all days every once in a while, while I have friends who ask me what it's like to [insert fav sexual fetish] because they've never even dared to ask their wife. And to go back to the discussion, anal sex beats condoms way over when it matters with avoiding pregnancies... C;-) Some statistics say it's simply the most efficient way of birth control. I say it's simply the most pleasurable !!! Of course I don't have to worry about STD being married and way too satisfied to go look around.
Why don't men like condoms?
BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE PUTTING YOUR DICK IN A VISE!
(This answer provided free of charge)
Knowing Google's lust for data collection, the Soviet Union is still alive and well inside the psyche of Sergey Brin....
strange this hasn't been mentioned yet (over i overlooked it)..
when using a condom the foreskin cannot move freely. the foreskin is (in my opinion, and by just counting the nerve ends) more important than the head of the penis for sex. it also (in my opinion) helps keeping the vagina lubricated nicely, and naturally.
so when using a condom the foreskin doesn't move: missing that pleasure and have to use some artificial lube. no problem for me: i keeps some lube with my condoms and beeing a litte less sensitive can have its advantages (as the foreskin-less amoung us often advocate).
i rather have the sexual freedom that condoms bring me.
so solution: sell each condom with a small package of lube (preferable high quality like durex sensilube), that, to me, would solve half of the problems associated with condoms.
good luck with the research!
(ohh.. just to mention: several girls have told me that the condoms+lube thing also made the sex better for them, especially in the end of a session)
Im with everyone else, in that theyre moment killers if you fumble getting the packet open (although find a girl who can put one on with her mouth and that goes away very rapidly once its open), and they kill the sensation. Sometimes thats good (read delay spray without the aerosols) but by and large its very not. And Ive tried the sensitive brands too.
Now here's where I differ to your average slashdotter, Im in a very long term relationship, in fact Ive been married for 9 years and have two children by my wife. Even now we don't like condoms and the pill messes with her liver so she cant use it. So rather than have to use condoms I had a sterilization (and the old fashioned way, 2cm took out of each vas deferen for analysis, since where I am its illegal to have yourself "mutilated" without it being for cancer testing, damn catholic meddling) and then contracted adult chicken pox post op. And let me tell you it was a very very unpleasent combo...
However, do it again? damn right I would. Guilt free pleasure.
Of course if I ever were in a situation that I was going to be having sex with someone else, the old bin liner would have to come back out until I was sure she was std free.
There? can I have the money now. I promise to spend it on some terminal servers for the racks...
I can't believe no one has brought up polyurethane condoms (Avanti is the only brand I know of in the US).
They are much thinner than latex or any other material.
They feel damn close to like nothing at all.
Stick a pencil in a latex condom until it breaks.
Do the same with a polyurethane. 'nuff said. Shit is the bomb.
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wearing a condom whilst having sex is like having a shower with your socks on
Latex sucks cause you have to compile every time to see the result.
It sounds like you believe that the benefits of work like this cannot possibly outweight the costs. Is that what you think? It strikes me as very likely indeed that benefits will outweigh costs
What I consider very unlikely is that Citizens Against Government Waste have a genuine belief that this research will not be useful. They are simply shouting loudly about a research project that many ignorant and prejudiced people (for example, those who get their news from Fox) will hate by reflex.
I will make good use of this 'research'
I'm a rabbit startled by the headlights of life
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2007/pr10/en/index.html
Can't see the problem here. Decreasing sensitivity means a longer time to orgasm, and thus increased pleasure duration for both partners.
I think the answer is pretty simple...
We have a biological urge to pro-create. No offense, but I always get off on the idea that I could get a woman pregnant... until i'm finished that is. The heat of the moment carries me away and gives me a buzz... I can't believe i'm alone in this department.
Btw, one other poster said you're better off shagging an average woman rather than a better looking woman? I say that you're better off with someone who you're personally and sexually compatible with - regardless of how they look. My ex was a bomb shell - but a nut job. My wife is good looking, but not a bomb shell. I preferred the physical side with my ex - but I just couldn't stand the high maintenance personality and constant mood swings.
AC
Confucius say, "if it floats, flies or fucks, it's cheaper to rent."
I don't have any preconceptions whether the quoted is true or false (though I bet on false), but where/when did he say that? Can someone give some (at least plausible) link?
Maybe with enough studies like this circumcision rates in the US will continue to drop. If they're looking for it I'm sure they'll find a correlation between condom use and circumcision with complaints of sensitivity.
Here's a decent link to circumcision rates by region: http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/USA/ Combined, 73% - 81% are still being cut in the USA. In 1932 around 30% of the USA populations was circumcised. It seems to have peaked in 1965 and will hopefully continue to drop. But it's studies like this that get things going.
They were able to test about only 400 times the reason why they do not like condoms while fornicating....
unless they went in further then the price drops to about 100$ per...making it more like 4000 times....
Still, not enough times spent because you have a 1 in 5000 chance of catching something without wearing a condom...
or so the commercial goes....!
Also that second link does not even consider what you says it does - look at the note attached to the figures and you will see it is most definitely NOT cunnilingus. It's possibly a transmission method for something but that link you quoted has nothing at all to do with it.
Good point about breakage.
Couldn't it be just as simple as:
A: It's in conflict with the basic instinct of breeding
B: It's an additional expense
C: It's a physical barrier
D: We are lazy
$400k to study this? Hell I just saved us at least $800k since when has anything the government done in the last 40 years been on or under budget?
-=[ Who Is John Galt? ]=-
You are correct to disagree. The two terms are not asymptotically equal in n or anywhere close to it. They diverge quite significantly for large n. The proof is straightforward.
Since p is a probability 0<p<1. Let a=1-p/2 and let b=1-p. Then, 1>a>b>0. Therefore a/b > 1 .
Since a/b > 1, (a/b)^n=K grows without bound as n increases.
So (1-p/2)^n/(1-p)^n = K
=> (1-p/2)^n = K (1-p)^n
So (1-p/2)^n is K times (1-p)^n. And K grows without bound as n increases. The two terms are not asymptotic as n goes to infinity. In fact, the two terms are wildly divergent.
p/2 can be replaced by r*p for any 0r1, and this proof will still hold. Reducing the probability of an event even slightly, pays off as the number of events rises.
It should be noted, this mathematical proof makes no mention of the ethical or practical rationals for interfering with infants genitals.
May the Maths Be with you!
Solution to article => http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/06/22/1616239 i.e. Why don't you real men like condoms? Seeing as how I prefer earning my Gravity Wheel invention seed money (last pgh) and not gov't handout money extorted from your paychecks by Hussein Obama just send the $4.23-$423,000.00 consultant fee for solving these pressing sexual dysfunction issues to Member One Federal Credit Union #162895 in Roanoke Virginia please => the answer to this "Why men don't like condoms?" question is that men sense they are being poisoned by the biphenyl baby bottle plastic poison contained in rubber condoms. The male brain has a high flow of blood + the male penis having also the high flow of blood equals
THE BRAIN DETECTS INCOMING POISON FROM THE CONDOM ENCLOSED PENIS
FOLLOWING PLACEMENT & SUBSEQUENT INTENSE HOT HEAVY-SEX-HEAT
AND SWEAT-RELEASED CONDOM CHEMICAL POISON INTO BRAIN-BOUND BLOOD
RESPONSIBLE FOR AMERICAN MEN NEEDING VIAGRA & CIALIS TO RECOVER LOST PENIS FUNCTION.
The human brain
#1 recognizes the condom-released chemical poison coming its way &
#2 makes the man feel uncomfortable using condoms because
#3 MALES ARE BEING POISON-CASTRATED WITH CONDOM-DELIVERED BIPHENYL PLASTIC
developed primarily to placate women ditto vasectomies.
This solution will be added to my web sites for the record how I solved the worldwide male poisoning-by-condom by our present male-is-only-a-sperm donor despising society but no, Woodrow Riley isn't so brain dead stupid he thinks a "consultant fee" will be deposited in my bank account above. No one else does it. I could however stop receiving monthly disability checks with enough small donations of thanks were received so I could buy a tractor-trailer rig and get back to work or get to work completing the design of my Gravity Wheel that will power each person's home by a gravity-run generator => http://www.newpath4.com/firefox_best_links.htm. PayPal any help you feel motivated to send for me alerting you YOUR RUBBER IS KILLING YOU to riley101 at cox dot net. See also http://tinyurl.com/GravityWheelOne and, thanks for the help; it will come back to you many times over and likely your children,
especially your MALE children who should be
spared chemicals doused on their penis.
Industrial Age 2 + How-to Stop Malignant Cancers.
As a circumsized man I have never had any desensitization, I have only once had any issue with going all the way, and I think that had more to do with my emotional and inhebriated state.
One thing I will say though, is make sure you are using an appropriately sized condom. I used to have a much more challenging go at it until I switched to a "large" size condom (Trojan Magnum is my current cover of choice) and I have have had much few issues with application and protection.
If you are experiencing desensitization and having difficult reaching a climax, see your doctor!
-Rick
"Most people in the U.S. wouldn't know they live in a tyrannical state if it walked up and grabbed their junk." - MyFirs
due to the whole avoiding chlamydia and child support thing
but i suppose you can look deeply into someone's eyes and tell if they have an STD
zzz
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
>One measure we give is we have 20 different "steps" for using a condom properly, and they're out
>of order, and some are not real steps. Out of ~250 teenagers, most of whom have taken sex ed,
>been exposed to safer sex info all their lives, only 6 got that exercise 100% correct (all real
>steps in proper order, all fake steps removed), and only 42 got all the real steps in the correct
>order (but kept some of the fake steps). The kids have been taught, but retention isn't so hot -
>we're coming up with better ways to teach this.
This is pretty fucking pathetic. But partly, I blame you guys for coming up with TWENTY steps for putting on a condom.
This is not rocket science. You take it out of the foil, figure out which way the thing rolls, stick it on your penis, and roll it on down until it doesn't roll anymore. Give it a couple tugs on the tip to make a place for the sperm to go and you're ready for battle, soldier. I count FIVE steps.
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Cause it dampens the sensory inputs to your willie - DOH !!!
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What a waste of taxpayers money. Everyone knows why men don't like to wear condoms. Now we need a study to determine why women are unbearable once a month.
... that it's immoral to cut off bits of infant's bodies to protect them against a disease that could be more effectively prevented by using condoms. What's next - will we start cutting off the breasts of infant girls? After all, it's even more effective against breast cancer than circumcision is against HIV.
If grown men want to get circumcised to help prevent STDs, that's their right (although they should understand they'd be better off with a condom). But doing so to infant boys, who can't consent to the procedure, is barbaric.
What is that? Sometimes, between my science projects and working on my toys in my parent's basement, I need more context when talking about such topics
When a thief sees a saint, all he sees are his pockets!
In my experience, it's always been the women who don't want it. Naturally, I hate using them, but it has always been my girlfriend who has chosen to throw caution in to the wind.
"...who search the reason of things
Are those who bring the most sorrow on themselves." --Euripides, The Medea
Sex is in the mind. People like to "feel" close... If you put something between them, then the degree of contact is being restricted... If they don't know this is happening, I doubt they'd be bothered. But since they do know, it's a factor in the equation in their mind. That's all there is to it.
I can think of so many better things to spend $400,000 dollars of my tax money on during an economic crisis.
Can we stop ignoring the 900 pound gorilla in the room? We (men) want to ejaculate inside “her” to cause pregnancy. Wearing condoms eliminates that; we become consciously aware that we are defeating the process and that will diminish the biological urge.
You gotta be kidding me right? 20 Steps? You can knock that down to FOUR and then "stupid teens" wouldn't get frustrated or make mistakes:
1. Tear open package.
2. Figure out which end is "up"
3. Place on tip, roll down as far as possible.
4. If the hole ain't lubed (either naturally or otherwise), it's not time to stick it in.
Doesn't get any more complicated than this!
Recently, we ran out of doctor-provided condoms and had to go into the shops and buy new ones. I bought a new brand, "Trojans". My god they were terrible. The were too thick, smelled terrible, and reacted poorly inside my partner. Apparently they stung. And they cost about 70c per condom, the cheapest in the store. We went to Condomdepot and bought Durex thin ones and they arrived in a couple days, cost about 25c per condom. They have better sensitivity, smell fine, and were cheaper. They are excellent. I don't know what people are complaining about. Get a better condom for crying out loud.
.. conducted this research are either men who have never had sex without a condom, or women.
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These are just my gripes: they're expensive (five dollars a dozen?!) and always expire before I get to use them.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! --Longbottle
I buy in bundles of 200.
Needless to say I know which one suits me best.
It takes me less than 10 seconds to fit one, also you would benefit from the pleasures of holding your urges, your amorous session will last longer and the final outcome would be more memorable.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
... mine does.
I get plenty of sex and drinks , but sex only happens when I am sober.
Don't blame your brain for what is clearly just lack of discipline.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
... you should get back to action in short time after further foreplay.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Because it shows respect and caring for your partner.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
... that there are people out there that still think that coitus interruptus is an effective birth control method....
For all of you reading: once there is unprotected penetrative sex, all the bets are off.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
8 years of pulling out w/ 0 pregnancies. And we're both perfectly fertile. Just got to have a little self-control...
Abortion is safe and legal, all STD's are treatable, and welfare is available. Sex and responsibility are like church and state. These must remain separate in an modern enlightened society.
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