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Consumerist Says AT&T Site Won't Sell iPhone In NYC, Citing Network
cowp writes "A Consumerist tipster couldn't get AT&T's website to sell him an iPhone when he shopped using an NYC ZIP code, but could when he tried other cities' ZIPs. Consumerist asked an AT&T CSR and seems to have gotten confirmation that this is carrier policy: 'Yes, this is correct the phone is not offered to you because New York is not ready for the iPhone. You don't have enough towers to handle the phone.' Considering Apple's gadget is currently the most popular handset in the US, its exclusive carrier's inability/unwillingness to support the device in the country's largest market is pretty huge news. If this proves true, I'd expect curtains for AT&T's exclusivity deal when it comes up for renewal." If you're in NYC, can you confirm or deny this outlandish-sounding claim?
Updated 20091227 1:03 GMT by timothy: Headline, now corrected, inaccurately named Apple rather than AT&T. Mea culpa.
There's been a lot of coverage indicating problems with iPhones in New York, including one Gizmodo piece saying a 30% dropped call rate is apparently normal.
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Can we stop saying things like 'the most popular handset?' When we're talking about a market where no single handset has more than about 1-2% market share, saying 'the most popular' is entirely meaningless.
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I live in NYC under a 114xx zip code and had no problems buying one in person at an ATT store. I bought it the weekend after Thanksgiving so it was about a month ago. Maybe they changed it since then.
Verizon is going to have a field day with this haha..
I live 5 minutes from NYC, and used to have an IPhone which unfortunately I had to dispose of because of the dreadful service AT&T provides here. Try watching a YouTube video from 3-8PM any day of the week, and all you'll see is a slow slideshow.
Switched to VZW and bought a Tour, which I'm much happier with.
Hopefully for the next "Apple Phone" Verizon will be the network of choice, because I'm never going back to AT&T's shit.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits" - Albert Einstein
Are you sure the REAL reason isn't that New Yorkers are just not cool enough? That east coast vibe severely damps down on the cool, ya know.
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What are the exact implications of the iPhone's failure to make it there (NY) as opposed to making it anywhere else?
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Summary makes it clear it's AT&T that isn't selling the iPhone in New York City. Headline says it's Apple, who last time I checked have iPhones for sale in their New York City stores. :)
Village idiot in some extremely smart villages.
and even then its closest rivals are barely a tenth of a percentage point behind
Speaking of false, that's bullcrap. You could have at least tried a simple Google query for smart phone market share before wasting keystrokes here.
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Nope. It's the most popular phone in the US based on units sold. 4% of the market.
That's almost 10% better than the best BB. 75% better than the entire RAZR V3 line.
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New York City is by far the most densely populated area in the US, perhaps AT&T simply builds its towers too far apart (ie the cells would be too large) to serve so many people with adequate connection speeds. If this is the case then obviously AT&T is at fault for treating New York like any other area of the country in their planning.
As with any company hiring from the general public and paying very low wages to its CSRs, the information you get from a particular CSR is not necessarily reliable. I have no specific information as to whether or not this claim about the iPhone in NYC is true, but one CSR's answer isn't worth a damn.
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Apple has 12% world-wide marketshare, and the iPhone 3G, according to Nielsen, is the most popular handset in the US. Granted, the 3G model only has 4% marketshare, but overall Apple's suite of mobile devices are on an upward trend that will likely eclipse RIM soon enough.
is likely some small candybar phone with simple buttons and a basic display.
You had to call it a candy-bar... It's 1:30 AM here and it is raining outside.
Where the hell am I gonna get me a candy-bar at this our?
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... and both my phone (an at&t blackberry) and my coworker's iphone cannot make or receive calls indoors (despite having an allegedly strong signal of -80 or higher)
No iPhone for You!
...is that it is all up to New York, New York?
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There are tons of small electronics stores in Manhattan selling jailbroken iPhones. You don't even have to bother with first party retailers, as long as you're willing to dive into some shady shops.
Must be April 1, as there are more places to buy the iPhone in NY than in just about any other place. Here in Rockland County (across the Hudson from Westchester), I'm close to the Apple retail stores in West Nyack, White Plains, Greenwich and Stamford, not to mention the 3 in Manhattan (including Apple's largest retail store). Every one chock full of iPhones. Oh, and I bought both my and my wife's iPhones on the internet without a hitch.
News outlets used to believe that outrageous claims required outrageous proof. Now, "some guy said" or the typical bad info of an outsourced customer service agent is considered golden.
Not because it's the best phone available, which it might or might not be depending on who you ask, but because there's a guy in Cupertino with a black turtleneck, a borrowed liver, and a really shitty attitude who owns the exact same phone I do, and who has the power to make it suck less.
Even if he has to stare down AT&T to do it.
What other phone manufacturer can go to bat for their customers like that?
Let's ignore the long lines in front of the Apple Store in New York when the iPhone was released - what about the fact that the first photo of the Hudson River landing was shot and Twittered with an iPhone? Okay, that could have been WiFi on the ferry...
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The title says Apple wont sell it (which is wrong they most certainly will) the ARTICLE has the real culprit, AT&T, which is really who wont sell it. My coworker couldnt get a iPhone for her girlfriend at all from AT&T in the NYC area, but had no problems with Apple selling it to her.
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Figures don't lie but liars figure. The iPhone is by far the most popular smartphone associated with Apple, I'm sure.
reading comprehension FTW!
Why is timothy asking us to confirm or deny this claim? I would think he could just check the AT&T site and put in a NYC zip code before even posting this article on slashdot.
But not better than all/I> the BB's. It looked like they combined the iPhone models, but not the rest. Lies, Damn lies, and all that...
Regardless of whether it is the top, or close to the top, it is indisputable that it's up there, and not providing the necessary service for it is simply inexcusable.
If brevity is the soul of wit, then how does one explain Twitter?
This is responsible -- they don't have enough towers, and they shouldn't be selling any more phones until they build more capacity.
It's not any different than not selling additional seats on an airplane that's already full. No one would blame an airline for not overbooking. I don't think we should blame AT&T for doing the right thing.
As a New Yorker with an iPhone, I hope Apple follows suit and stops selling iPhones to New Yorkers until the network is robust enough to provide decent service.
Failing that, I think they should waive early termination fees for NYC users.
My guess is that Apple has an agreement to supply phones to the NYC area. To buy a phone there, you have to go to the Apple store or website. In the areas far from Apple stores (90% of the country at least) AT&T will sell iPhones.
AT&T doesn't sell iPhones in Los Angeles, either.
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I work in downtown NYC, and I can attest that the iphone does get horrible service. Data transfer rates are very spotty, and cell phone calls will disconnect at a rather frequent rate. Outside the city, on Long Island, service is much better. So i can well believe that they are oversubscibed.
You can go to the Apple store and buy one, but NOT (apparently) on AT&T's website, at least not after typing in a NYC zip code.
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AT&T's choices:
Did they choose wisely? I think not.
Did you happen to try buying it online from the AT&T store? Because you would not have been able to. They aren't selling it.
The title was wrong, but the summary and story are both correct. It's getting bad if people can't even bother to read the whole summary.
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My phone will show 5 bars of reception but it will throw "no service" warnings when I try to make calls.
Not saying it isn't AT&T's fault but there is a highly non-zero chance the problem is with your phone instead. I've been an AT&T customer for over a decade (from back when they were AT&T Wireless before they became Cingular) so I'm pretty familiar with the good and bad about them. Whenever I've seen something like what you describe, a reboot of my phone has usually fixed the problem. I've also had cases where I couldn't get calls but other people with different phones could get calls standing right next to me. The problem turned out to be a wonky Nokia phone which I fixed by getting a new phone. Service didn't change but if the radio in the phone is broken (software or hardware) you can be standing next to a working tower and it won't matter.
You said you use basic phones so there is a good chance those phones are made as cheaply as possible. Wouldn't surprise me if a few corners got cut on the testing... Of course it could just be AT&T having crap service where you like too...
If a New Yorker's iPhone service is shitty because of poor reception, they should be able to terminate because it AT&Ts fault for providing faulty coverage.
Zip Code - 10019. 50th Street and 8th Avenue. About as IN New York City as you can get. We have three iPhones. Got the third one from an AT&T store on the 22nd of this month. Sounds like total crap to me. Then again, it's a "consumerist tipster" reporting this...
I have owned 5 iPhone's including my current one and my development device, my wife has one too.
My data is usually ok but I do seem to drop calls on occasion even with a full signal. I also just tried entering my local zip code in NYC and it told me the iPhone was unavailable. I then edited and tried my dad's house in Suffolk County on Long Island the site says it's available. I then tried my uncle zip core Nassau County on Long Island and it's not available either.
It seems that if you are western LI near NYC, you iPhone from their site, but the further east you go, it's available?
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Umm, no, they did not combine models. TFL says quite clearly that it's the iPhone 3G in the top slot. Just because iPhones aren't named things like iPhone-MCJ27-3G-FOOBAR99i doesn't mean that they're not named at all.
I went to AT&T wireless and selected that I wanted to buy a phone. I simply put in 10116 as my zip code then selected Apple as the brand I wanted to buy. The screen said nothing met my criteria. Now... ..there are like 30+ Manhattan Zip codes so I don't know if this effects them all. I also did not dig for a reason or explanation from Apple
New York City is still among the most expensive real estate. Building owners probably ask for more money to lease sites. Rural farms love the extra income from their leases. So, ATT might put less 3G, or even basic GSM, cell towers in NYC, resulting in weak service.
Maybe that CSR just watched A Few Good Men.
AT&T: You want coverage?
Consumerist: I think I have the towers.
AT&T: You want coverage?
Consumerist: I want the iPhone!
AT&T: You can't handle the iPhone!!
That's it! It's over for AT&T! They're the epic fail. People are running for the Verizon store in massive numbers as we speak. I got my niece to switch to Verizon last week and she has no problem adapting to her new phone.
Weird. I live in Manhattan and lots of people have iPhones.
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According to an AT&T CSR questioned in The Consumerist comments.
Joseph W.: Welcome to AT&T online Sales support. How may I assist you with placing your order today?
Joseph W.: Which one, the 3gs?
Peter: Yes
Peter: It says "There are no phones and devices that match your search criteria."
Joseph W.: It is because you are in New York City.
Peter: What does that mean?
Joseph W.: Due to massive fraud in online ordering, iPhones are not available online only.
Joseph W.: They can be bought in stores only.
Peter: Oh, ok
You might be able to buy an iPhone in NYC, but you can't from AT&T's web site.
Try for yourself!
1. Go to http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/cell-phones.jsp
2. If you're outside of NYC, you'll see "Showing 69 standard phones or devices" and the iPhones listed immediately below.
3. Change your zip code to 10101 by clicking Update next to your location in the upper-right corner.
4. Now notice that it says "Showing 65 standard phones or devices." The iPhones are nowhere to be found.
Now, the reason that the CSR gave for iPhone being unavailable might not be correct, but you certainly can't buy an iPhone from the AT&T website in NYC.
Well, the Wikipedia page that is the first result of that search puts the iPhone in third behind the Symbian and Palm OS's. Of course, this is only a measure of operating system popularity, but it sure makes the iPhone look not-so-popular.
...this makes Apple look terrible, and it's AT&T's fault. The network can't handle the volume, which is generated by ACTUAL USE.
Apple needs to break away from its exclusivity with AT&T posthaste, because the iPhone will suffer from AT&T's network.
Had them all along, 11105 Astoria.
And when the iPhone was first released, the AT&T store on the corner of Broadway and about 26th or 27th in Manhattan had a big sign outside advertising that iPhones were available there, after months of marketing in the window.
Judging by the vast number of iPhones all over New York, I'd say that this story (or that CSR) is basically bullshit.
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
and Ditmars Boulevard in Queens.
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
Good job on bringing this out in the open. Maybe with enough visibility, AT&T will finally do something about this.
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When our choices are less important than their marketing plan, one has to wonder who thought of that idea. I love my iPhone and am happy with AT&T where I live and travel. That could change. I might move. I wonder what they were thinking.
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Bought an iPhone 3G at the Apple Store last year in Manhattan and a 3GS at an AT&T store here in Brooklyn a few months ago. Works well enough for me - certainly not 20% dropped calls.
I live in New York, and I can say from personal experience that the AT&T store here definitely lets you buy IPhones. Or at least they did last June when I friggin' ***stood in line*** with a bunch of other people who were also buying IPhones.
I can also say from personal experience that while the AT&T network in new york isn't perfect, I've been on all the major carrier over the past six years (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile) and judging by the number of dropped calls I get and the number of times I can't make a call, AT&T is at least as good as Verizon, maybe even better. That only applies to New York and other big cities though -- I will admit that when I travel to rural areas, AT&T service is much shoddier there than Verizon.
The only way this article could possibly be true is that maybe the guy's particular zip code was in a section of New York that doesn't yet have good service -- like maybe one of the "still developing" neighbors in the Bronx or something. But as for New York city as a whole? They are definitely selling Iphones here.
I bought an iPhone sunday afternoon in astoria (NYC) in an AT&T store, no problem at all...
In late January, when every pundit expects an Apple Tablet rollout, what will be rolled out is another Apple phone - perhaps not called an iPhone - which is not tied to the AT&T network.
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How much proof do you need?
Just call AT&T and try to buy an iphone in NY.
You can't.
Not all AT&T phone reps are equally versed in what's going on, as Consumerist later admits on their site. AT&T will sell you the iPhone in their stores throughout NYC. They won't sell you the phone online within NYC. Apparently this is because of fraudulent resales as people order the phones online, take delivery and then ship them overseas. Skipping out on the contracts in the process, as they never intended to honor them in the first place.
I wonder why NYC has more of a problem with this than other locations. Large transient international population I suppose...
Do all AT&T Wireless phones drop calls in New York City or just iPhones? What about an unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile?
I wonder what Apple will say when they find out AT&T is helping to *REDUCE* the sale of more iphones.
Not good.
TFL actually mentions that it didn't differentiate between the 3g and 3gs. Since the BB Curve series is only .3% behind, if they didn't combine them then the iPhone wouldn't be #1. Hence the "Lies, damn lies, and statistics" bit.
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Okay, I get it, the iPhone is really, really, really popular... it's like this shiny toy and everybody wantses it. Good for them.
But why isn't the real story that apparently AT&T feels they can't sell any further iPhones with presumably the lack of coverage/network bandwidth as their argument, but *every other phone* is just fine?
If it's a coverage issue - this should affect every phone, unless the iPhone were to have notoriously bad reception in the first place.
If it's a bandwidth issue - this should affect every phone, period. Maybe iPhone users tend to browse the interwebs more often but if they're having actual bandwidth issues then this should affect even the lowliest of use on any other 3G phone.
Top that off with the Apple Stores still selling the things - even though presumably they should be aware of their *exclusive partner*'s potential issues actually supporting the things, and I see far more interesting stories than "can't buy the iPhone from the AT&T website if I enter a NY zip code :("
iPhone owners should get the app Mark the Spot for reporting dropped calls, failed calls, coverage failures, data failures, and lousy voice quality when and where it happens. (That is, when you are able to next connect.)
It is as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
Last one I saw had a bunch of customers in a merchandise return line with the AT&T 3G coverage maps above their heads. I'd love to see how Verizon can spin the "even if it's 3G covered by AT&T, that's only for phones which can't use full 3G speeds". LOL
Says the man who repeats the mantra of the liberal, pinning all their problems on some abstract idea of a colaborative and archetypal villain named "the mass media". There is no collaboration amongst them, they are not trying to brainwash you, or anyone else, instead they are trying to appeal to you, to watch them. In this way, they are a reflection of you. When you understand that there are no super villain's, nobody cares about you, and it's extremely hard to organize a group to do ANYTHING in even the best of situations, then you will come to the realization that these abstract concepts you create to define your super smart group compared to the other super stupid group, are extremely arbitrary and do not reflect reality in the least bit.
I think you'll find "many" citizens think their country is the best and most advanced in the world, given you don't come from an third world country. This is called patriotism, it's not particularly good, however suggesting that some out group ("Americans") are somehow worse than your ingroup, means you're doing the exact same thing.
Basically, what I'm saying is, you're an idiot, and are displaying the very biases and failures in logic that you're so pissed off at in others.
with the AT&T reps manner of presenting this, trying to make it sound as if the problems is the caller/potential customer's fault.
Its not that "you (the caller, or New York residents) doesn't have enough towers", its that "We (AT&T) don't have enough towers (in New York)"
My suggestion to the caller, would be to make their next question something along the lines of "So when will AT&T be putting up more towers then?" I mean heck, its not like they even have to build actual *towers* - there are skyscrapers all over the place to stick cells on top of or out the windows at lower floors.
Verizon should give up since their 3G network is about the same speed in actual use as AT&Ts edge network,
A good majority of the posts here seem to say "it's expected to have drop's... give AT&T a break for not selling phones when coverage is bad.. it's normal business"... etc.. All basically excuses.
It is really shocking that customers or fan's feel like they need to make excuses for poor service by their phone carrier. Call it what it is, poor service. I own a US Cellular blackberry in the Kenosha Wisconsin market near Chicago IL. I barely ever get a drop, always have good signal and even while driving I rarely get drop's. Many of my friend's who have AT&T complain about drop's.
Stop making excuses for a poor company. AT&T should be left on the side of the road called "poor service".
on a FABULOUS astroturfing campaign here at Slashdot that has convinced everyone that your major competitor is woefully bad (despite massive market share) and that you are the only real alternative.
To read Slashdot these days, you'd think that there are only seven iPhones in New York, all of them unlocked and brought in from Jersey and Conneticut (since they clearly don't sell them here because the signal is too poor, so don't bother going to the AT&T Store/Apple Store to try to get one) and that they don't work anyway, as indicated by the random shouts of "MY GOD, DAMNED DROPPED CALLS!" every other block as you walk through Manhattan.
In fact, nothing could be farther from the truth. Spend a week in NYC and you'll come away with the clear impression that the iPhone is one of the most popular, if not the most popular, phone(s) in the city, there aren't violent ant-AT&T screams from angry customers bursting forth on every street corner, and you can walk into any AT&T Store or Apple Store and pick one up tomorrow.
I have one, I live in Queens and work in Manhattan, most of my friends have one, they all live in the boroughs and work in Manhattan, we all got them at AT&T stores in the city, and every one of us agrees its the best phone, by a large margin, we've ever owned.
But don't take our word for it, definitely believe these weird front-page anti-Apple-fanboi-fests that tout the advantages of the clearly flawless Verizon network (good luck with that) and the truly superior phones that Verizon offers (despite the fact that the iPhone has the largest market share on the market) that don't work outside the United States.
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
I went to the AT&T store on Lexington Avenue and approx 61st Street in midtown last Monday (one week ago today) and had no problem adding a second iPhone to my account (for my wife).
This story seems like some kind of mistake.
If you add only the top 3 classes of Crackberry the iphone drops to second...
iphone 4.0%
Crackberry ( 3.7 + 1.5 + 1.2 ) 6.7%
I work at a printing press in NY (Outside of the city in Nassau on Long Island) and my boss has an iphone. A co-worker of mine also had an iphone for a while before he gave it up for a cheaper plan. Maybe the refusal to sell only applies in the city proper?
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I've had my iPhone 3G since release day. I've generally been very happy with the service that I get from AT&T.
The first few months, I kept 3G service off and kept to the edge network because there were major issues with the 3G service bouncing on and off. The constant switching from 3G to Edge would severely drain the phone's battery. After that first period of time, there was a marked improvement in signal strength throughout the city. Within Manhattan, I have no problems with 3G service for making phone calls. I can't even remember the last time I lost a call.
Unfortunately, for me the iPhone is a lot less about having a phone, and more about having a little internet device that's always connected. Having full signal strength does not equate to being able to use 3G data, or fast 3G data speeds. There are many times that I've got full signal strength, but can not use the internet because of the poor signal to noise ratio. Poor SnR is something that anyone, on any carrier will experience within a heavily populated, dense, and electrified city.
Do some Google searches on every carrier in every major city and you will find that there are a LOT of unhappy people regardless of the service they have.
AT&T is now telling everyone that it's because of online fraud from that area. See TUAW and other sites for the story.
Get off my launchpad!
This problem must vary a lot depending on where you are. I live in a small town in Virginia (although along I-95) and get good coverage pretty much everywhere I go, including my very rural workplace. What's more, the service has been steadily getting better - at first, I only got EDGE service everywhere, but they lit up 3G in my hometown about a year ago, and in the workplace town a month or two ago.
What's always been inexplicable to me is that the two places that seem to have the worst reception on AT&T are New York and San Francisco. If you were to pick the two places in all of the US that would result in the worst publicity when your network failed, it would have to be those two. Why AT&T has let this go on is inexplicable - I'd be concentrating all my resources on the places that make the most easily heard complaints.
I get a LOT of dropped calls in with > 3 bars in LA. On bad days, we're talking 5 drops throughout a 1 hour conversation. at&t should stop selling the iPhone *everywhere*, unless they can do so with service from another wireless company. I call nearly every month and demand a discount for terrible service, with a call log listing recent call drops in hand.
Everyone who has this problem should do this, and keep the evidence. Always escalate to a supervisor if the lower person won't give a discount.
I can't wait until their contract with Apple is used up. This partnership with at&t is the worst mistake Apple has made since they forced Steve Jobs out in 1985. I'll be more than happy to buy new hardware to switch networks away from at&t, I only wish there were some way to make at&t pay more for their incompetence. Maybe when half their mobile base leaves themonce there is some other option, they'll wise up and provide decent service.
But from what I've already endured because of the lack of decent service, I'd prefer if they would just go out of business.
No, it's half of BB. And it's 62% of the LG line up.
You can love your iPhone all you want, but just because Apple makes only one iPhone doesn't mean that you should compare that one iPhone against the RAZR v3 only. Compare it against Motorola - or LG - or RIM.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/12/16/iphone-leapfrogs-winmo-market-share/
How naive. You forget the inevitable conclusion of this trend, the zombie kitty apocalypse!
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I am a network tech at an IT company and we deal with ATT with their DSL for some of our clients. They have horrible service that seems to be getting worse. You always get transferred to 5-6 people before someone will help you. There has also been incidents of them terminating clients DSL randomly with no reason. They told me specifically "we don’t have any reason this dsl account was terminated". Then they conveniently want you to sign up for 2 years. This has happened multiple times with different people in my company. I am not sure what is going on with ATT but this article does not surprise me. They are not the ATT that was founded years ago.
News flash: The overwhelming majority of people, and perhaps event the overwhelming majority of geeks/nerds/technically adept people give a ratfuck about buying an iPhone.
Oh, the enormity! (captcha: enormity)
Slashdot recently discussed the Gizmodo 3G speed test where Verizon was the fastest in 4 of the 12 cities[http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/09/12/23/2140213/ATampT-Wins-Gizmodo-3G-Bandwidth-Test]. If what you are saying is true (and yes, technically EVDO is slower than 3G, closer to EDGE (not necessary AT&T EDGE though)), that is still no reason for Verizon to give up - evidently AT&T can't even even deploy its 3G to beat the inferior
"EDGE equivalent" performance (as per your own assesment) in 33% of the tested cities. If my competition can't win races with superior technology, that definitely is no reason to give up.
Does it seem to anyone else that AT&T may be seeking a non-renewal of the contract with Apple?
What costs more money: The contract, or upgrading their infrastructure so that it can sustain all the iPhone customers?
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