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Go Daddy Reverses Course On SOPA
An anonymous reader writes "Go Daddy has relented in the face of public pressure and will no longer support SOPA. 'Fighting online piracy is of the utmost importance, which is why Go Daddy has been working to help craft revisions to this legislation—but we can clearly do better,' Warren Adelman, Go Daddy's newly appointed CEO, said."
Go Daddy was put under a tremendous amount of pressure from around the internet; a boycott had been organized for Dec. 29th, and several major sites threatened to pull their domains from Go Daddy, including Stack Overflow and I Can Has Cheezburger. The U.S. House Judiciary committee posted a list of companies who support SOPA (PDF).
In an effort to eliminate any confusion about its reversal on SOPA though, Jones has removed blog postings that had outlined areas of the bill Go Daddy did support.
Busted!
The story of GoDaddy supporting SOPA is still on /.'s front page, and now this....
I've already transferred my domain and cancelled the auto renewal on another. Ha.
This is great, but their first response was less than endearing.
Yes, and now they're spamming Twitter with @ posts to people almost every 30 seconds.
"Not supporting SOPA" isn't the same as "taking a stand against SOPA."
I want to see them actively lobbying against it now, instead of just taking back what they said. Then maybe I'll have some respect for them. I still plan on transferring away from them as soon as I can.
Voting with your dollars works!
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GoDaddy and PeeDaddy are my favorite RAP stars! They say things that are so meaningful!
I'm cool - right?!
Already transferred my domains away today. Reversing their position doesn't really change anything at this point. They supported it and would've continued to if it hadn't been for the backlash.
And even besides that, their advertising schemes have been creepy from the start and Bob Parsons is now and always will be a cunt. SOPA support was just the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
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In GoDaddy's word there are no elephants and we all live in a police state
.... wait .... they were since 5-6 years ago ....
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GoDaddy has shown it's true colors. When they saw their business tanking they got scared and changed their mind, but we know where their heart lies now. I'm no longer going to support them.
~theCzar
First of all, it should say "a list of companies that support SOPA," because companies are not people. Second, why does the House Judiciary Committee, or anyone else, care what companies think? This is supposed to be government of, for, and by the people -- could we at least try to maintain that fiction, and have a list of PEOPLE who support or oppose the bill, rather than a list of companies?
What is really sad is the executives that made the decision to support SOPA, if they had any sense at all, should have known that it wouldn't work. They just wanted to have more power over domains. Domain owners and web sites are their bread and butter, no the entertainment industry. What annoys me, after such a crass and stupid decision those selfsame execs will still reap god knows how much in bonuses and salary.
Stack Overflow used GoDaddy?? WTF?
several major sites threatened to pull their domains from Go Daddy, including Stack Overflow and I Can Has Cheezburger
ICHC is a major site? By what measure?
Tic-Tac-Toe, Global Thermonuclear War, and relationships all have the same winning move.
Who is next on the list of companies that support SOPA? Should we carry on moving our business away from them?
How else would you expect a company to respond? How many times have people used the phrase "Vote With Your Dollars!"? This is exactly an example of that.
Go Daddy supported something. Its customers voted (or threatened to vote) with their dollars. Go Daddy re-evaluated what that meant and changed its stance.
Isn't that what you would want to see a corporate entity do?
Sony should be next.
They're on record as supporting SOPA and Protect-IP.
They're also the guys who dragged George Hotz to court for revealing their random number generator always returned 42
They're not as easy to boycott as Go Daddy is but a nice, polite email reminding them why you're not likely to buy, or recommend, their products wouldn't be amiss.
... who stand to profit from the implementation of SOPA.
(Referring to the list of supporters)
-- A change is as good as a reboot.
Don't let laziness prevent you from doing the right thing. In the long run, most of the anti-SOPA registrars offer even cheaper services, so it makes sense even financially, if your ethical sense is underdeveloped.
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I am not interested in doing business with a company sufficiently clueless about the Internet that they would ever have supported that bill.
If they are that unclear on what the Internet is or why it matters, they can go be clueless without me.
I think we've reached the point where it's time to remember that the purpose of copyright is not to ensure absolute and perfect control, it's to give good enough control that people can figure out a way to make money doing creative work. You know what? People are making money doing creative work. We're done. The "problem" of piracy isn't a problem, any more than the expiration of copyright was a problem.
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is how many law firms are listed.
Not really. I'd rather see them do the right thing in the first place. Instead of them being ass hats and only after they've pissed on enough customers make a superficial about face. Just so they can survive just long enough for most people to forget what they did and preform another ass hat move.
Whom are some good companies I can switch over to away from SOPA-Daddy?
Thanks!
What I'd like to see is a change in behavior. If you are constantly evil, an apology won't cut it. What can correct this is changing your behavior and not being constantly evil.
Did they undo all the support in the past? No, they can't. We want companies not to do such things in the first place and the only way to get that is to punish in excess of whatever benefit they expect from whatever crap. In cases like GoDaddy, who have shown themselves to be idiots, assholes and such over and over again, the only solution is to never, ever give them any money. They aren't a person, no need to feel sorry for a company.
Anyone notice that this reversal notice is soon enough that scrolling down the first page still has the article of GoDaddy's support of SOPA? As for moving my domains, I haven't done it yet and with this I'm tempted to see what happens first... most likely going to look elsewhere anyways
The man who cannot imagine a horse galloping on a tomato is an idiot - Andre Breton
And when a company announces that they support the indiscriminate slaughter of Atheists, I will vote with my.. er.. wait, why the HELL would a company support the indiscriminate slaughter of atheists?
Why the HELL is a technology company in support of legislation that will screw over the populace to the perceived benefit of a few large corporations?
Are you aware of the phrase, "too little too late" ?
Go Daddy re-evaluated what that meant and changed its stance.
Isn't that what you would want to see a corporate entity do?
It didn't change its stance. It dropped support for the bill, but still claimed that 'fighting online piracy is of the utmost importance'. So it's still not a company anyone should be dealing with.
Can someone chart this mass exodus?
We've seen the same thing with their treatment of spammer domains. It works like this:
We notice some spam. We report it to them. They ignore the reports.
We notice some more spam. We report it to them. They tell us it didn't come from their network/their customers/their affiliate/their anything.
We notice some more spam. We report it to them. They forward the reports to the spammers, who either list-wash us or send us more spam or send us nasty notes, sometimes with threats.
We notice some more spam. We report it more widely, and other people start taking notice. Eventually a number of people concur that yes, it's spam, and yes, it's GoDaddy's responsibility, and yes, they ought to do something.
When the chorus gets loud enough, GoDaddy finally does something -- like forcing the spammers to move their domains elsewhere. They announce this as a major blow against spam thanks to their own hard work and diligence. They trumpet their anti-abuse policies, pat themselves on the back, ignore the people who actually did the research, forget all about how long the abuse went on, and claim the whole thing as yet another win for themselves.
Process repeats.
So there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that this is just the latest variation of that scam. GoDaddy is only allegedly changing its mind because of the money involved. It's not on principle, because they have none. I guarantee you that -- behind the scenes -- they're still doing everything they can to support this bill.
So, please, everyone: don't be naive and stupid enough to fall for this scam. Remember: if GoDaddy was REALLY against this bill, they could have said so yesterday. Or last week. They didn't.
This will, hopefully, serve as an example to other corporate entities: do the right thing first, not as damage control
Go Daddy supported something. Its customers voted (or threatened to vote) with their dollars. Go Daddy re-evaluated what that meant and changed its stance.
Isn't that what you would want to see a corporate entity do?
It's not that I don't like that they've changed. It's just that they've lost my trust. I'm glad that people have voted with their dollars. But I can't trust them with my business anymore.
~theCzar
I think a difference in this situation versus other similar "vote with your dollars" situations is that enough ppl actually carried through with voting with their dollars. As pointed out by other posters, much of the time the only ppl in the know are "geeks/nerds" and in this situation happened to be in command of the voting dollars.
...aren't going to stop pulling this bullshit if they backpedal every time a threat is made. BoA, Netflix, and now GoDaddy seem to be playing these types of games pretty regularly. I've been looking for a decent replacement registrar since seeing the original article this morning and I think that, despite their backpedaling, I'm going to pull my account from them anyway. You know, there's a saying that "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission"...these assholes seem to want us to "forgive" them every time they threaten to take our rights away. It's abundantly clear that they aren't interested in preserving Freedom, so fuck them. Flame on...
No, it's not great. It's just damage control. Only a fool would believe that they really had a change of heart.
Go. Do it right now before you forget.
There is no reason at all to continue to do business with a shit scumbag company like godaddy.
Go switch right now. Before they screw YOU over.
this month's internet bitch! Congrats to the GoDaddy executives and Bobbby Peason for being such wussies. You follow quite well in the standard neocon's shoes....
Transferred my domain earlier today anyway.
Couldn't help but laugh when I clicked the list of supporters and the parent directory was named "Rouge Websites". Obviously this is a list of websites and companies that are Commie Red and support Big Brother controlling every part of your life, and the Judiciary Committee has been so kind as to identify them for us.
Thanks for being so helpful House!
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It'll take a week or two at least to go into effect (it's holidays!), but there you are.
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Way to dance around the issue GoDaddy, but we can clearly do better.
The legislation is not needed, I'm curious to why GoDaddy would have ever supported this... They surely wouldn't use their large number of patents (65; 200+ pending) in conjunction with SOPA-like bills to shut down competition!
If anything events like these are indicators of a need for a massive shift in draconian 'intellectual property' law and vulnerable-to-idiot-politicians-with-stretchy-pockets internet infrastructure.
Anyone else take the time to see what the PDF link was - it was for the list of those who supported rouge (not rogue) websites. Now I know why Revlon is on the list - they don't want anyone else horning in on their coveted cosmetics market!
The link in question: http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/Rouge%20Websites/SOPA%20Supporters.pdf.
That's why they have such undue pull. If you look at the American economy, tech companies are WAY bigger than media companies. Intel alone could practically buy and sell Hollywood. However they don't spend a whole lot on bribes. They give money, of course, all companies do, but not on the level media companies do. The media companies give tons and have lots of lobbyists. They are real big on trying to buy the laws they want.
GoDaddy is a company, best known for their bad service and lack of morals. GoDaddy are two-faced liars.
... time to switch to ... ... wait a minute... ... Visa, Inc is also in :-(
Isn't that what you would want to see a corporate entity do?
What most smart, knowledgeable people want to see this corporate entity do is crash and burn, and for its executives to be out begging on the street. The former probably won't happen, of course, and the latter definitely won't happen, but we can dream.
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
This is a must see, sad, true, and hilarious to boot. Hitler responds to SOPA: http://youtu.be/uvXo4sGB7zM
And when a company announces that they support the indiscriminate slaughter of Atheists, I will vote with my.. er.. wait, why the HELL would a company support the indiscriminate slaughter of atheists?
I'm not trying to be a dick, but can you provide more information on what GoDaddy is doing here?
Anyone else notice the full path to the list of SOPA Supporters. You think they meant "Rogue" rather than "Rouge"?
http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/Rouge%20Websites/SOPA%20Supporters.pdf
FTA
"Fighting online piracy is of the utmost importance, which is why Go Daddy has been working to help craft revisions to this legislation - but we can clearly do better," Warren Adelman, Go Daddy's newly appointed CEO, said. "It's very important that all Internet stakeholders work together on this. Getting it right is worth the wait. Go Daddy will support it when and if the Internet community supports it."
- Sucking up to the wealthy IP industry?
Check!
- sticking your tongue up two asses at the same time?
Check!
- Good usage of semantics that will convince the sheeple that you had a change of heart without offending future political donors? Check!
"I have downloaded hundreds and hundreds of records, why would I care if somebody downloads ours?" Robin Pecknold
http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/sopa-hearing-will-never-end.php/
From the article:
Polis pointed out that SOPA and Smith's amendment already excluded certain operators of sub-domains, such as GoDaddy.com, from being subject to shutdowns under SOPA.
"If companies like GoDaddy.com are exempt, why aren't non-commercial domain servers exempt?" Polis asked.
Indeed it is.
Maybe their competitors will think BEFORE they act.
Let GoDaddy be a lesson to their competitors.
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They should have stood in opposition of SOPA from the beginning. They're a fucking interwebs company, for fucks sake, whatever retraction they try to vomit at us now is just glaringly obvious lip-service. You know they still support SOPA, so you know that my 300+ domains live somewhere else now. Fuck them.
There are website owners who are for SOPA. Most of them are big corporations, and they're not in the market segment that's using GoDaddy for their DNS service.
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Is web.com any better?
It's not just corporations supporting SOPA - it's also a number of unions and union-like organizations. Some of them are less surprising (AFTRA and other actors' and musicians' groups), but I wouldn't have expected the IBEW to be one of the bad guys.
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"Isn't that what you would want to see a corporate entity do?"
Sure. When you're wrong, the best thing is to admit you're wrong and change course. Of course, it would have been nice if the folks at GoDaddy weren't such douche bags in the first place. They seem to consistently get these kinds of issues wrong. There's an uproar, they reverse course and pull their head out of their ass. How such idiots manage to stay in business is beyond me. Perhaps they figure there's no such thing as bad publicity. Certainly, unless people start moving their sites, their will never really be a penalty for being idiots.
This is really a case of character revelation. There's no reversing course when it is revealed you have bad character. Any claim of reversal is now tainted by the knowledge of your bad character, and will be for many years, until contrary actions convince the public of your change. So if GoDaddy wants this business back, they need not only state a reversal of course, they need to be seen actively lobbying and spending significant money fighting SOPA and similar laws. For years.
"Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
I think a lot of people are pulling their domains. It's taking forever to get my exportable list.
Nothing's changed. Not one goddammed thing.
From the statement. "Go Daddy and its General Counsel, Christine Jones, have worked with federal lawmakers for months to help craft revisions to legislation". They liked the state of SOPA enough to support it two days ago - hell...they helped craft it! The only difference between "We're for it" to "we're not for it" is "hey - why are you all deserting us??". They may not be listing themselves as in favour any more, but they're sure as hell not coming out against it.
I'm still voting with my feet, pocket and registration transfers. Screw them.
There been some shrinking of the "Judiciary Committee’s list of SOPA supporters", perhaps due to cold water? Compare this list (439 entries, dec 21) with the 'official' list (142 entries, dec 23).
Beyond the law firms that have complained, I can't help but note that Electronic Arts aren't in the PDF.
Also, every time some actor tweets anti-SOPA sentiment, make sure to point out to them that the Screen Actors Guild are official SOPA supporters according to the judiciary.
Belief is the currency of delusion.
You can add Wikipedia to that list. [cite]
Go daddy is still a bunch of aholes with questionable hosting practices and one of the worst customer portals focused on upselling rather than delivering services. I moved all my domains from them quite some time ago. Recently they were acquired and they have created artificial dns brownouts to sites experiencing additional queries because they have a boost in traffic. They are using this to sell additional services. If you value your internet service you will move away from them even if they no longer support sopa.
"Go Daddy has been working to help craft revisions to this legislation"
This means they only have a problem with "some" things about SOPA. It should be understood that everything about SOPA is against freedom of the internet. Let the corporations fight piracy another way. The government should have no involvement in fighting piracy what so ever. This is a corporate matter, and should be left to them. Lower prices, offer better deals then piracy. It can be done without taking away our internet.
Corporations can't live with the fact that the only way to fight piracy is to lower prices, or offer a better product.
This is good to see. Minor victories like this are something to be cherished. I see people here talking about the enormity of the MAFIAA and how they own Congress, but things like this are the first step in pushing things back in the right direction. I'm well aware of the enormity of the MAFIAA forces, and how this victory is minor, but it shows that when we get together to protect our industry, and do the right thing, we can win. The MAFIAA *wants* us to think it is completely hopeless, that there is nothing we can do.
There are a lot of rotten MAFIAA things, but when they talk about artists needing to be paid (although aside from the like of Metallica, most artists talk about how they hate the MAFIAA too, and how it rips them off...Louis CK's recent experiment comes to mind - he didn't bite the hand that had fed him that hard in his comments on the whole matter, but he did a little bit) I have to laugh. One of the most galling to me is the Copyright Term Extension Act when they decided to extend the copyright of works of corporate authorship to 120 years (and life of author plus 50 years for other things). Something written on January 1st, 1923 will be in copyright for another 8 years. This is stuff written back when Lenin was still leading Russia, but we have to wait 8 years for copyright to expire. Even worse - some opponents said they'd compromise - any company like Disney could renew whatever they wanted, but let stuff not put up for renewal not go under copyright. But the MAFIAA had even that quashed.
Interesting how Disney, ABC, and ESPN were listed as separate companies. I'm sure there were more examples, I just didn't look for any other Disney subsidiaries or other owners. Perhaps the House Judiciary Committee is being a little misleading. It's like offering three signatures, John Smith, J. Smith, and John F. Smith, from the same person, and listing him as three.
When they saw their business tanking they got scared and changed their mind,
I'm surprised that apparently it had a big enough effect that it did change their mind. Can anyone guess how many domains might have left them over this? Or make a guess how many that would need to be? How big is GoDaddy?
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Is all it proves.
Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
The PDF list is by far the most interesting thing of this article and you'd expect it to be all media/software companies (since it's online piracy that the bill is concerned with). Surprisingly, there's a fair number of non-media/sofware companies who don't seem to have anything to do with online piracy at all - here's some:
Concerned Women for America (is there a Concerned Men for America too?)
Congressional Fire Services Institute
Coty / Estee Lauder Companies / L'Oreal / Revlon (why so many cosmetics companies?!)
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Pharmeceutical Research and Manufacturers of America
Pfizer, Inc.
Tiffany & Co.
Not to mention a slew of slimebag lawyers who might stand to profit from any future legal action taken as a result of SOPA. About a third of the list includes conpanies that don't produce anything online to pirate and therefore, should never have been on the list on the first place (their presence is simply lobbying and not actually justified). I wonder how many boycotts we're going to see other than the frankly awful Go Daddy (who were terrible even before supposedly briefly supporting SOPA).
Being based in the UK, I wonder if a UK version of SOPA would result in a list of companies being released that supported the act - I don't know if companies in the UK publicly admit their support for legislation (or at least admitted in a way that a Freedom of Information Act request could reveal).
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"Sucks to be an american"
[Verse]
If tomorrow all my posts were gone I'd created all my life,
And I had to start again under a lawsuit filled with strife.
I'd curse my karma to be living here today,
'Cause congress sold the flag of freedom
And the coprorations took it away.
[Chorus]
It sucks to be an American
Where we have Fox News on TV
My girl can't sing a cover of Brittney Spears
Because SOPA's censored she,
They issued a take down, and sued my family
For 15 million bucks,
Cause there ain't no doubt congress sold this land,
And SOPAs just one way.
[Verse]
From the Sony lakes of Minnesota, to the Disney hills of Tennessee
Across the plains of RCA Texas, from company to company.
From multinational owned Detroit and Houston and L.A,
There's fear in every American heart
And it's time we stand and say:
[Chorus]
It sucks to be an American
Where we have Fox News on TV
My girl can't sing a cover of Brittney Spears
Because SOPA's censored she,
They issued a take down, and sued my family
For 15 million bucks,
Cause there ain't no doubt congress sold this land,
And SOPAs just one way.
If we allowed them to back peddle now, there would be no incentive for others to not start down that path.
We do not forgive, we do not forget.
Is a blog post enough to know that they really changed their mind? Is their private support of SOPA the same as their public support?
'Fighting online piracy is of the utmost importance
No, it isn't. Fighting online piracy is a nice-to-have, not a mission-critical.
The ability to transmit information quickly and reliably around the world -- that is of utmost importance. Promoting the progress of science and the useful arts is of utmost importance. Protecting this one particular, possibly outmoded, approach to funding science and the arts is something that we should do if there is a cost effective way to make it happen.
We have not found a cost effective way to do so. The past 15 years of copyright law have cost us far more than they have paid, even in the short run, and their long-run impact in denying or delaying new forms of art, let alone new means of information distribution, is impossible to measure. It is time for us to stop defending and losing ground. This little industry that represents less than 5% of the U.S. GDP is taking far too much away from the other 95% that is absolutely dependent on information distribution. It is time to roll back these hasty and flawed laws that hinder information distribution to protect one small sector of our economy. We need to find ways to enable creators to profit that do not damage the entire rest of the economy. We need to challenge the unsubstantiated belief that this one archaic mode of funding is "of utmost importance."
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Backing out of supporting SOPA is a start, but as long as they continue to support censorship and unreasonable copypriviledges, I will be boycotting them.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/23/godaddy-ceo-there-has-to-be-consensus-about-the-leadership-of-the-internet-community/
Especially this piece:
Adelman couldn’t commit to changing its position on the record in Congress when asked about that, but said “I’ll take that back to our legislative guys, but I agree that’s an important step.” But when pressed, he said “We’re going to step back and let others take leadership roles.” He felt that the public statement removing their support would be sufficient for now, though further steps would be considered.
It's clear that they just want to hide in the shadow instead of taking "leadership" role in supporting SOPA now. Surprise!
AC here,
To quote the actual post on GoDaddy:
"Go Daddy has always fought to preserve the intellectual property rights of third parties, and will continue to do so in the future," Jones said.
They haven't changed their stance on SOPA at all. All they've done is apologize for being so outwardly proud of it. I sincerely hope Wikipedia and Cheezburger hold true to their stance and deal a blow to these people.
Public opinion trumps corporate greed in boardrooms while dollars trumps private votes in the Capitol.
A Corporate Democracy or Capitol Hypocrisy?
I did not recognize many of the names on the list... but most of the ones I did recognize read like a who's who of who to avoid doing business with. I would say roughly 90% of them are companies that have already shown themselves to be worthless scum that should be avoided. At least they are all compiled on one list now for easy viewing.
Bunch of useless pricks, all of them.
It appears that many of the companies on the list are not very happy at appearing on there, as all they did was comment on the legal implications of the bill (in the case of the law firms) or respond to a white paper on anti-counterfeiting (presumably the cosmetic companies fall into this group). It was the Judiciary Committee who decided that this counted as 'supporting' SOPA.
How else would you expect a company to respond?
This is not a case of a company failing to understand something that was not particularly relevant to them. This is a company supporting a law that is in direct conflict with their ability to provide their customers the product that they claim they are selling. They are saying that they think a fundamentally technically flawed law to protect copyright is more important than providing the service that they sell. That displays an intrinsic, cultural disdain for the best interests of their customers.
They can apologize, but they can't change the fact that they have already shown that either they do not know how the Internet works, or they do not think things through, or they are serving someone other than the paying registry customer. Which of those three things is OK for a company you intend to do business with? For me, all three disqualify them from receiving my dollars until they show that their culture has changed -- not just their public statement on one example-case issue.
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Well all have the list of SOPA supporters now. Boycott if your lazy, hack hack hack happy holidays.
The companies like L'Oreal and Pfizer support SOPA because they want to be able to take down sites advertising counterfeit versions of their product.
Some of the others aren't as readily obvious but I'm sure silver has crossed palms at IBEW.
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This just saved me from finding a new registrar. Well, maybe it's time to do that anyway.
It must have been because I transferred my domains today to Namecheap. That's **$40 a year** of pure revenue that Godaddy lost out on. No wonder they changed their minds!
Sorry, but screw you. I'm already mid way through transferring 3000+ domains anyway. Your customer service has always sucked and now days, people offer better prices for bulk then you anyway. Oh, and your interface is horrible.
Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.
They say the first thing to go is your penis. Well, it's either that or your brain. I forget which...
Cosmetics companies are in it due to the clause regarding counterfeit goods. Likely CWFA is in it to support them in this. Pharma is in it for the same reason, as are Tiffany & Co.
They post a list of companies that support the bill... I would like to see a list of people with slightly above average and above knowledge of how computers work that support this bill.
And barring that, I'd like to see them do the right thing now... which, given the visibility they have with congress, is NOT to quietly sit in the back row and remove their blatant pro-SOPA propaganda... it's to go in and tell congress "We're losing all our business just on the THREAT of SOPA passing. I think we may want to kill this thing and come up with something that doesn't negatively affect everyone who uses web sites." Then to start lobbying in that direction, and start speaking out against the ways SOPA is harmful.
This isn't how I expect GoDaddy to respond, but this is the only way they'd gain my respect.
MasterCard is on the SOPA list. Use another credit card. Get the word out.
MasterCard is a SOPA supporter - see the list. Use another credit card. Get the word out.
FYI, the reason for things like medicinal, cosmetics, and jewelry companies is because SOPA includes the ability to take down sites selling things that infringe (or are alleged to) on patents, and trademarks. Basically, it's a way to get knock-offs and counterfeits taken down. Outside the US, a lot of people can't really afford name-brand cosmetics, and therefore buy cheap knock-offs that are advertised to be the same thing (though $DEITY only knows what's actually in them).
This isn't anywhere near a good enough excuse to support SOPA if you understand how the Internet works, but it's a pretty good reason to support it if you don't. *All* companies with stakes in IP - be it copyrights, patents, or trademarks - which is to say, essentially every company anywhere - can be sold on that aspect of the bill, especially if there are a lot of knock-offs or couterfeits online. Of course, most of them don't understand enough to oppose the bill based on how broken it is; the bill's supporters are not trying to sell L'Oreal's IT staff on SOPA, they're trying to sell its executives in exchange for more funding.
There's no place I could be, since I've found Serenity...
How big? They're the largest registrar in the world. (or at least they were up until yesterday)
The difference was that in the beginning, they supported SOPA (+1 activity). Now they are just going to be neutral but they still believe SOPA is right.
To reserve it they would have to protest SOPA actively, just like they did when they supported it actively. That is not going to happen so this is all a public stunt.
"Vote with your dollars" is, almost always, something companies can't undo without lots of work. GoDaddy is expecting this is easy to do.
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Interesting, the list of companies that support SOPA seems to have vanished from the website hosting it.
Anyone got another URI?
And it always beat me why anyone would even consider doing business with a company called "GoDaddy". Of all the puerile names I have ever seen for companies, this must probably be the silliest.
I'd like to point out that Dreamhost appears to have been against SOPA from the very beginning. Here's a post on their official blog from November
For anyone looking for GoDaddy alternatives, there's plenty of options, but as a happy customer I'd personally like to direct your attention to Dreamhost. I don't host anything busy, so my personal sites are happy on their shared hosting platform for which I pay a whopping $1.95/month [$48 total to pre-pay 2 years]. Again, without any crazy high traffic, their shared hosting is plenty fast for me. In addition, I get to host unlimited domains, unlimited space/bandwidth [until it affects the shared server of course] including mysql database. And the account comes with one free domain registration. Additional domains are price pretty typically, $9.95 for com/net/org domains. On top of all that, you get a debian shell account [non-root of course] which has worked out great for me. Obviously if you've got busy sites you might want some dedicated or VPS servers or something but they have those too.
Today I transferred my 3 domains over there and everything went smoothly. Even on GoDaddy's end, amazingly. The transfers were all fully complete within about 1.5 hours.
I don't work for them or anything. I'm just a happy customer.
Nothing to see here
Eventually a law stating that TC (trusted computing) chips are mandatory in every device will be passed. Then piracy will be gone,(because if you have to spend 2 hours to crack a software that won't work again after restarting and needs to be cracked again will be unfeasible).
Netsol for me since 1996. Tits to sell domains, never made much sense to me. *
LINK.
I'll do a diff in a few minutes.
Mission: To provide products that consume time and energy as entertainingly as permitted by the laws of thermodynamics.
Added to the list:
American Bankers Association (ABA)
Creative America
Entertainment Software Association (ESA)
MasterCard Worldwide
True Religion Brand Jeans
United States Olympic Committee
Visa Inc.
Wallace Bajjali Development Partners, L.P.
Removed from the list:
Baker & Hostetler LLP
Covington & Burling LLP
Cowan, DeBaets, Abrahams & Sheppard LLP
Cowan, Liebowitz & Latman, P.C.
Davis Wright Tremaine LL
Go Daddy
Irell & Manella LLP
Jenner & Block LLP
Kelley Drye & Warren LLP
Kendall Brill & Klieger LLP
Kinsella Weitzman Iser Kump & Aldisert LLP
Lathrop & Gage LLP
Loeb & Loeb LLP
Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp LLP
Morrison & Foerster LLP
Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler LLP
Phillips Nizer, LLP
Proskauer Rose LLP
Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi LLP
Shearman & Sterling LLP
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP
White & Case LLP
Mission: To provide products that consume time and energy as entertainingly as permitted by the laws of thermodynamics.
GoDaddy showed their true colors the first time. I've pulled all my domains, and won't be back.
Parson's elephant and jaguar killing wasn't enough for icanhascheezburger to have bailed?!? They decided to wait to see what else he'd come up with? :/
On Slashdot's Daily Digest e-mail, the messages appeared as such:
Classic stuff.
I am not devoid of humor.
I used to support SOPA, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Never liked them. Never used them... and I have never and would never recommend that company to anyone... especially now. They stand for nothing and have proven so. I never liked their network performance when I've had to work within it. I look out for my customers... and I require three things from my host: 1. Fair pricing (I am perfectly willing to pay more for value) Go Daddy has no special value and in my opinion, offers nothing ground breaking for anything other than Domain Parking - but even that is a rip-off.! 2. Performance - need I say more? 3. An occasional but well-informed and focused support and administration. Now Go Daddy is just covering their %$^&. and has sealed their fate as a waffling entity stuck in 1999 Yeah - I know, that's a harsh review... but you know what? " to whom much is given, MUCH is expected" and that's the end of it. -LIA
I've been tweeting about this GoDaddy shit since I saw it, and I'm so chuffed that it's actually panning out! As a Canadian webmaster, we up here don't have any means of affecting the vote for SOPA or Protect IP... we're just zombies waiting for the impact of the U.S. bomb that will take away or rights on the 'net. No say, no means of influence. So what do we do? We get YOU, the American public, to show that YOU ACTUALLY GIVE A SHIT. Again, I'm so relieved that this whole GoDaddy thing has elevated itself to the level of grassroots involvement. I KNEW there was something that would start the ball rolling to show these house- and senate-assholes that there are people out here that know they're backing legislation that is harmful and diseased. Lets not stop, people! Find the next GoDaddy. Show the gov't that we won't put up with their mal-formed attempts to subjugate us! And kudos, folks. Nice job, and well done!
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. ~~ Hunter S. Thompson
All right, time to change to FIOS. :/ fi
After years of not using a signature, I am going to make one to say the following: Fuck Beta
"So this is how Liberty dies. To the sound of rapturous applause."
Natalie Portman might have said it, but George Lucas wrote it - did he know something we didn't?
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
Sorry GoDaddy, I already switched all my domains and hosting accounts away from you yesterday and I will continue to advise on alternative services.
A shame really, considering I used to recommend them to people asking me where to register a domain and start a website.
I know, redundant, but I absolutely agree. I would go one step further than that even and say that EVERY company that is losing business because of the *threat* of SOPA should do a public about-face and denounce SOPA to Congress. If one or two large corporations die because of the *threat* of SOPA, that should be enough to tell Congress that it is a bad BAD idea to fuck with those who pay your salaries!
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
Not competitors. Replacements.
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
GoDaddy has a long-standing reputation for basically telling boycotters to fuck off. This is the first time they've ever caved to public pressure AFAIK. Maybe the collective damage of the boycotts that happened over the years has finally weakened them.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
You can deal with that as if there was only one incidend and one corporation involved: Corporation X did Y, that is bad! We get outraged and vote with our wallet telling that Y is bad. Corporation X undoes Y (what GD didn't do yet, by the way). Great, everything is fine.
Alternatively, you can deal with it like if there were plenty of corporations and plenty of issues: Corporation X did Y, that is bad! We get outraged and vote with our wallet telling that everybody that does something that bad will sufer. Corporation X goes from market leader to just another player. Great, no other corporation will try something like that for a while.
On the two visions above the problem is solved. The only difference is what the problem is. None of them are the right way to look at it, as there is no such thing. Everybody chooses the viewpoint that they think is right, depending on the specifics of each situation.
Rethinking email
The fourth link went to a non-connect message.
When I changed "Rouge" which means "red" to Rogue, it worked.
Rogue is another word for "pirate".
This "anonymous coward" is Jerome from Layton, UT.
By the way, Senator Orrin Hatch is a sponsor of the Senate companion bill.
We need more lists,
Obama: Pro-SOPA? Neutral? Against?
Ron Paul: Against?
L'Oreal will be for counterfits.
Pfizer is for non-license-paying generics. (they don't label them "Pfizer viagra" they label the "generic viagra"
I think this is the second time GoDaddy has lost customers over something obnoxious they did. Anyone remember what the first time was?
But what happened to a Government of the People, Of the People, and For the People?
Seems to me this is the golden opportunity to Take back out country. If we ALL vote AGAINST ALL the incumbents, it seems to me we can make a difference as THE People.
I know its a fantasy, but seems to me this is a call to action.
GoDaddy has NOT withdrawn its official congressional support for SOPA
The Christian religion has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world. -- Bertrand Russell
They moved the list...
http://judiciary.house.gov/issues/issues_RogueWebsites.html
Wow, I'm impressed that people were able to affect Godaddy's support of Sopa. I see Sopa as a way that the US government will start censoring all sites, eroding our freedom.
Most of the lawyers on there are not actually supporters of the bill but law firms representing companies who do support it or legal scholars who have written an opinion on the constitutionality of the bill (it's probably constitutional but still really stupid). Most of them are upset because they actually included disclaimers that their legal analysis did NOT constitute support or opposition to the bill.
Sometimes the best way for an industry to learn a lesson is for one of the competitors to make a bonehead move and get run out of business. In this particular case I am quite sure that the lesson has been learned. Hosting companies and registrars aren't going to want to have even the slightest exposure to SOPA. What's more, the sharper ones are probably firing up marketing campaigns designed specifically to appeal to GoDaddy customers that are uneasy about SOPA. After all, GoDaddy's repentance might well just be skin deep.
GoDaddy has plenty of money and influence, and a whole pile of talented employees. If the company is *truly* committed to its new course surely it can find a way to demonstrate their commitment that is more tangible than just a web page. If it can't come up with a way to show its newfound wisdom, or if it wants to sit on the fence for a bit then its customers should continue to jump ship. That will *certainly* get the message across.
"Voting with your dollars" implies running companies out of business. That's the whole point.
From the comments I've seen so far, nobody is reading the actual article. Quoting from the article:
"While 21,054 domains transferred out Friday of Domaincontrol.com--which is managed by Go Daddy--it is only fair to note that 20,034 transferred in the same day, according to domain tracker Dailychanges.com"
Thus the actual decline on Friday was just 980 domains.
How did this get missed when the article was submitted to /.? Who vets these submissions before posting? Aren't you supposed to read the whole (source) article, and not just the headline?