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Sea Rise Could Force Millions In Florida To Adapt Or Flee (miamiherald.com)
mdsolar writes: For the first time, a team of researchers looked at ongoing population growth in areas where the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has created flood maps that more accurately reflect local conditions. What they found was startling: projections that failed to factor in population growth in dense states like Florida hugely underestimated the number of people at risk and the cost of protecting them. Combined with the findings from a 2015 report, that means Florida can claim two titles: most property at risk, and now, most people.
Since most people in Florida don't plan on being around in 30 years, the problem may very well take care of itself. We just need to make sure we build a protective dike around The Villages in the meantime.
Yes but at a sea level rise rate of 2-4mm/year, I think that people will have time to adjust!!
Two Florida politicians that have not done well were running from this issue. Did that create a classic wimp factor that undercut them on all issues?
Really??
For the last 25-plus years, the rest of the world has been listening to America shouting at the top of their voice:
"There's no such thing as Global Warming"
Increase in hurricanes? = Statistical anomaly.
Severe drought? = Temporary inconvenience caused by el nino.
Extreme snowfall? = No problem - we're used to it!
Go away, and read the story of King Canute and the sea...
I'm sure that you can tell the climate that you're not completely f***ing things up for the rest of the planet.
(or you could try raising gas to $1.40 a litre, and putting the taxes raised into doing something useful...)
And make them pay for it, they will - trust me.
Get up!
They can evolve into alligators. Only those who do not believe in intelligent design
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But what if P=NP?
That's what the old Eskimo said about his ice flow.
And there was me thinking the place with the most to loose from rising sea levels by a large margin was Bangladesh. It certainly cannot hope to claim most people, the report cited claims six million people, which is a fraction compared to the 18-20 million people that could be submerged in Bangladesh.
I guess the value of the properties submerged is more in Florida. However to match Bangladesh everyone in Florida would have to be submerged which seems a bit unlikely even on worst case scenarios which of course would see more people in Bangladesh submerged too.
This is going to rock, people! This is why global warming has my full support. Mother Earth has been begging for this for eons and it's time for us to deliver and prove that we are truly badass on a planetary scale. Terraformers who can truly shape the atmospheres of entire planets. Planets the size of the earth are mere toys to us. Little blue marbles in our giant hands. My greatest fear is that it will take too long. I want to see this in my lifetime. This needs to happen NOW. Not in a hundred years. Not in a thousand years. Not even next year. RIGHT NOW. Let's make this happen people! And Mars you motherfucker. You're next. I'm already putting aside as much money as I can for the inevitable canal front property that will be selling at bargain prices in just a few months.
Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave.
It has been ruled unconstitutional for the sea levels to rise.
It is the job of the federal government to respect and enforce all laws enacted by a duly elected constitutional body of legislators. If Florida had outlawed sea level rise in 2012, it would be a federal government problem, and the state does not have to do anything. Now ordinary Floridians are having to pay for the mistakes committed by incompetent state legislatures.
It clearly shows government does not work, any government based solutions does not work. It is time to shrink the government small enough to be drowned in a tidal pool.
Whatever it is, I am in the west, and I don't want my tax dollars paying for dumb mistakes done by Floridians. It is time for people to take responsibility for their decision where to live. And I want the Federal government off my back, off my land, the Bureau of land management dismantled. The only role federal government can play here legally is to put out the wild fires using helicopters and airplanes.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Clearly 1% of the people are hogging 99% of the dirt! Those people in Denver dont need a *mile* of dirt under their feet when the deserving 99% in Florida with damp feet have almost nothing! It's time to redistribute the dirt!
VOTE SANDERS 2016
As usual, there is a relevent xkcd.
Are real estate people making a killing in buying/selling land on coasts or farm area that will supposedly be affected by global warming?
Future Florida inhabitants will be taller by a feet than now.
Thx
But what if P=NP?
You'd have a transistor?
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
We can offload that waterlogged, burdensome property. Just consult our offices about how to get the best bid for your seashore sunset view ,sea air, and waterlogged basement/first floor. Buyers are ready to pay as much as $40,000 dollars to buy your land out for redevelopment. Cut your million+ dollar loses from that property you invested your life in because you, like many other unfortunate people bought the industry by-line: Global warming was made up by fear mongering, panicky scientists.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
"It's time to redistribute the dirt!"
They're trying. Haven't you watched any of the debates?
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
You moved to a flood plain, and even if its not an official one, look around - the place is a giant, flat sandbar, in the middle of hurricane alley. Why not simply let people suffer the consequences of either their poor decision making or their calculated risks?
Why must there always be some kind of impending bailout?
All those poor people can become diving instructors in 1000 years when the houses are under water
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Then N = 1.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Florida legalized murder a while back, I thought they said that was going to solve the population-related problems. What happened?
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Sending out notices saying "move or risk living underwater" doesn't cost that much does it? Really, it's not the government's job to "protect" these people, if they are too stupid to get out of the path of the oncoming train, let natural selection take it's course...
I had a lot of fun with this simulator that give a taste of sea rising : http://geology.com/sea-level-r...
The lack of will to fight global warming let most of the scientist baffled toward the governments of the world. It's a little understandable, the global warming is so subtle (~2mm rise and 0.13 Celcius per year) that the frog analogy of Al Gore perfectly explain our lack of action. As of now, it's not possible to make a business case that, with X billions you'll save Y billions of natural disaster.
For me, money is the key of that fight and the sonner the better. And that map (see link above) showed me something interesting. A lof of huge and rich city are at sea level (Miami, New York, Tokyo etc.). Each of those city worth in the trillion : http://www.businessinsider.com...
I wonder what the speech will look like when water will start flooding Broadway. How will the fight again global warming will look like with a budget of 10 trillions?
Elok
It's really not a problem. Florida is built on drained swamps, and swamps float. The sea water can just be drained away and Florida will be safe again. So go down there and make your millions buying land.
Swamps (basically dirt and other bits of rotting vegetation, a few snakes and the occasional alien) may float. Multistory concrete buildings, not so much.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Let's just remember that this is the state where in 2015, Department of Environmental Protection employees were banned from usage of the term "climate change" or "global warming". .
The damage is done. You can play 'coulda woulda shoulda' and 'I told you so" if you want, but all that accomplishes is an increase of smugness, and a continuation of division.
It's time to stop with that bullshit, and actually do something about it. We have several decades before this becomes a problem, which can be used to mitigate the damage.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
It ia very easy to protect the cities... dome them and tunnel the highways.... Come on people this is not rocket science....
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
Soon to be head in the mud.
Articles like the Herald's are just the first step towards multi-billion dollar public works projects. Politicians and their mega-contractor cronies love these. I predict a lot of high-dollar dirt shuffling in Florida's future.
Any number multiplied by itself is zero.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
In 2124, after the Florida government gives up on trying to remove several cities built atop tall stilts, Miami and many other low lying areas succeeded and formed our 53rd state. Everyone commutes on electric busses and barges and loves thier new sea homes. You can fish off your porch and the ocean is never more than a block away from everyone, not just the 1%.
If you look carefully, you'll realize, the gloomy predictions tend to include non-committal words like "may" or "could":
This makes them non-falsifiable and thus unscientific...
Unscientific, but convenient... Years later, when the earlier peddled fears fail to materialize, the peddlers offer you new ones without having to blush about the past ones: we never said, it will stop snowing in Scotland, only that it could .
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Is it obstructionist? Where do bills originate? It's not the President's office...
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
You just told everyone you consider the mainstream media scientific literature. The only thing you're damaging with statements like this is your reputation, which luckily you have hidden.
I was actually referring to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
These people don't believe in climate change, so there's nothing to worry about.
Why is it anyone's responsibility to protect people who not only don't want to be protected, but refuse to acknowlege that a problem even exists?
And the sea will be held back with a wall, and THE SEA WILL BE FORCED TO PAY FOR IT!!!
They're trying. Haven't you watched any of the debates?
I thought that was PhD* program
*Piled Higher and Deeper
Time to offend someone
Ok ....
I submit!
That was funny.
Still holding my stomach after 2 minutes ... can barely type.
Likely an old joke, but nevertheless: you got me!
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That's all I had to add.
If it's old, I'd never heard of it before, it just occurred to me as I read it. It might actually be original content. If so, you're welcome to it and can take it with you wherever you go. Consider it yours.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Gills?
LOL I know... I know... I was still referring to the P=NP. If P is equal to N×P then N must be 1, i.e. basic algebra. I was solving for N.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
(bow) Khrab!
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
I've a sad suspicion that not many people got it. :/ Ah well... Math humor has a rather limited audience.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Well, I was in fact holding my stomach while typing the answer ... I did not really laugh out that loud ... but chuckled for minutes.
It is one of those jokes you have to let travel around in your mind.
E.g. I heard this one a few weeks ago:
A guy decides to become a monk. He goes hard core and joins a monastery with a swear to silence. Only every 6 years he is allowed to say two words, on the gathering of the monks.
After the first six years after the older monks had said their words, the abbot nods to him.
He says: "hard floor".
After further six years they have the same gathering again and every monk says his two words. When the abbot is nodding at him, he says: "bad food".
Another six years pass and again thy have the gathering to utter their two words, and he says: "I quit!"
The abbot nods and says: "We thought so. The last 18 years we had nothing except complains from you".
I don't remember where I caught that one, but I told it a friend of mine, and for an hour at random situations he started chuckling and said: har har, the longer it rolls in the mind the funnier it gets, the more "true" about "human nature" it gets, too.
There is a another one:
A customer sits in a french restaurant. The waiter comes and the customer interrupts him while he was asking for orders: "Do you have frog legs?" The waiter looks at him, not amused: "most certainly, Sir!"
"What are you waiting for? Hop hop into the kitchen and get me a Sandwich!" the customer replies.
Oki, that was a lame attempt to hijack the thread, but I liked the joke ... a british guy, old 70 year old, musician told it to me in an irish pub ... I liked it.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
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The first one resonates with me. I'm a secular Buddhist (sure as hell not a damned monk) and have been on refuge a few times. I've yet to meet a Buddhist would would not like that joke - and see wisdom in it. I'll be sure to convey that.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
I'm an atheist, but I like Buddhism. It is a part of my live as I do jap. martial arts. Probably I move into a Buddhist country, Thailand.
It is surprising how "religion" influences the live there in a positive way.
A friend of mine is working in a "catholic school" in Thailand as teacher. She is Buddhist, not sure how "tough" as in "going to the temple" or "going to the prayers". She says: all teachers are Buddhists, except for the Filipinos teaching english etc, they are catholics.
I live in Germany right now. Both christian Churches have a law exception that they are allowed only to hire people of their own confession. So if you want to work in an protestant's kindergarden, the "owner", "operator" or how ever you want to call it, can demand that only employes that are protestants are hired. In other words: if he rejects one with the note: "you are not a protestant", you can not sue him (successfully). Albeit by constitution you may not discriminate by sex, religion etc. As I said: an exceptional law ... no idea why the courts hold it up.
I like the Buddhist way of: we don't care about your religion as long as you leave us alone. And as a matter of fact, I never have seen muslims that were more sexy than there :D
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
I didn't think that was dirt they were slinging around.
Oh, I'm atheist - thus Secular Buddhist. I do not believe in a god, put it that way. It's a tough subject to discuss in public as most people feel compelled to either tell me what I believe or tell me how to believe. I'm not really sure why.
I believe that "reincarnation" is real - because I understand basic science. Reincarnation is, to me, my atoms will someday be among the stars. And, they will be. Maybe not stars but there's a good chance of that considering how long the galaxy is expected to last and the fact that atoms are always recycled. I am made of matter, I can neither be created nor destroyed. Err - I will not reassemble as a new human, that's really unlikely. Even if I *did* reassemble as a new human, in my entirety, I'd not actually have any memory, association, nor care that my atoms had belonged to a dead human. Chances are, some of my current atoms belong to some long-dead human. They are not a part of me.
I am on a path - the path is that of enlightenment. Enlightenment can be different for anyone and often is. In my case, I'm seeking being content and working my way towards it by walking the 8 fold path as I see fit. It is imperative to note: I am not a monk, I'm not even a good Buddhist. I like to say, "I'm a Buddhist, not a fucking monk." (It's good for getting some strange looks.)
I believe in karma. For the most part. I don't think it matters in a "next life." That's just silly talk for weak people. No, I think karma is accumulated by doing good things. This is not always the truth but it seems to be true in the vast majority of cases. Even as poor as almost any situation is, it's somehow better if you're doing things for the right reason.
For me, I seek logic, reason, and to be content. For the most part, I'm content. I don't dislike anyone - nor do I intentionally try to harm anyone. (That even includes people on Slashdot's "foe" list - I use that as a marker and not as a personal indication - you must have said something I thought was irreparably wrong at some point - presumably something that led to fewer liberties for the individual than is required for a safe and effective society.)
I think the change came to me after I'd had the misfortune to get the chance to participate in life-fire combat. I spent eight years enlisted as a Marine. It's how I paid for my degree - I used the GI Bill. I learned a lot. I learned a lot about people. I don't like harming anyone - that doesn't mean I haven't and that I won't. It's that I'd prefer to not do so.
Martial arts? What kinds?
I studied some Jiu-Jitsu and Akido as a kid and into my 20s. I took every available course in MCT (Marine Combat Training). In my opinion, it's a great way to keep or get in shape - physically and (ideally) mentally. Without the mental aspect, I'm unimpressed. Hopefully you've a good Sensei?
Have you studied for long? Preferences? Favorite instructor? Any competitions aside from certifications?
I do not try to convert people to my religion. You're right. Buddhists aren't really about telling other people how to live or what to believe in. Over the years (I've been practicing for about 20 years) I've figured out one word to describe most Buddhists that I know. That is: Pragmatic. I've gone to actual monasteries and stayed there for a while (that's called 'refuge') and they seem generally content with me. They give me wisdom and direction. They put me back on the path. Well, no... They help me find my own way back. Yeah, pragmatism is the best way to put it. The best way that I can think of. They're not even always peaceful - they can and will be violent. There's a reason that monks are bad-ass martial artists. (I am *not* one of those.)
As for the East? I'm not really fond of Japan. I've been. I'll leave my opinions out of it. Thailand is a good choice, so is Laos of Vietnam. China might be a good place -- if you can get out of the cities. Money, your typical retirement fund, should hold you over there for a long, long time. Parts of India are nice. Nepal is nice but ca
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
The only FL counties that were recounted were ones that voted for Bush.
Bush won the original FL vote and 1 recount. Gore only won 1 recount. That's when SCOTUS said you have to stop.
In a dystopian near-future America (is there any other kind in pulp SF?), psuedo-evangelical Christians have assumed power and made the USA a theocracy, of the Ayatollah sort. The populace is largely kept in line by a Brotherhood of brownshirts, who keep up with everyone via their "Personal Jesus" confessionals, which are nothing more than surveillance engines, and the elaborate, massive religious-themed productions (think 4th of July fireworks shows on the DC Mall) helped entertain the masses.
Anyway, one "cult" that even the theocracy knows not to mess with: The Elvii. The Elvis worship was strong...
States like Florida, plus the Federal government, seem intent on keeping as many people living in beachfront or oceanside or riverfront living as possible by subsidizing against *inevitable* flood losses. Some places have been flooded and restored multiple times at taxpayer expense. Take a hint!
If you can afford to build a $1M house on the beach, then you can afford to watch it float away on your own dime...
The question is, when does SCOTUS not have an opening to interfere? How much must be lost?
No! The foundation of my house isn't eroding into the ocean! That's just your imagination. Climate change isn't real! (What's this jellyfish doing in my yard?)
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Two questions:
1) When should SCOTUS stop interfering?
2) How many times can a candidate recount the counties they lost until they win?
In this case my question is (2). Your question might be (1).
Nope, when does Al Gore win by a 7 pt margin?
The Benevolent God made the Earth for mankind and gave man dominion over it. Except that He made it 75% salt water.
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
Soon to be head in the mud.
Mudhead? Where's Peorgie?
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
The damage is done. You can play 'coulda woulda shoulda' and 'I told you so" if you want, but all that accomplishes is an increase of smugness, and a continuation of division.
It's time to stop with that bullshit, and actually do something about it. We have several decades before this becomes a problem, which can be used to mitigate the damage.
longer snorkels for everyone
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
Any number multiplied by itself is zero.
say what?
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
Let's just remember that this is the state where in 2015, Department of Environmental Protection employees were banned from usage of the term "climate change" or "global warming". .
i don''t like the sound of that "blimate bange"
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
LOL Good catch. Any number multiplied by zero is zero - was what I meant. *sighs*
You want to know the worst part about that?
Yes, yes I do have my Ph.D in Applied Mathematics. *sighs again*
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
I'd never thought of it before then. I think I'm gonna save it for later use. Wait, no... I can't. I gave it away. Angel O' Sphere (/. user) liked it a bunch and I told 'em they could have it. So, I hope to see it again.
As I said to them (or someone else who replied - I think it was them), mathematics humor only goes so far.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
That was a long post.
Regarding Foe or Freak, I only mark people in a similar way you do. Basically people I don't want to read or respond to again. Funnily I have most of them (actually they are not many, perhaps 10) still on my radar and many of them have changed. Some of them simply wrote completely idiotic posts regarding computer science and claimed to be programmers/engineers etc. Funnily they are now posting stuff that contradicts their 5 year old posts. That is good imho.
So far I only was in Thailand. Whole February. I try to go there again ASAP. I'm working on acquiring a remote job opportunity. In that area I would like to see Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam and Burma. Probably Malaysia, have to investigate how strict the Muslim regions are. Obviously dream islands like Bali should be explored.
But that is mostly just for "traveling" and being at the beach and having nice food. To dig into the "culture" I plan for later. I would like to work with elephants e.g.
Nepal is basically the crown I like to reach, Tibet would be nice, too - but I doubt I have the nerves to tackle the Chinese bureaucracy.
Unfortunately I only started to travel around there just now. Retiring there is basically the goal. I don't mind the heat. Frankly, in summer my part of Germany is hotter than Thailand is right now. Much hotter. But temperature is going up there, lets see how it is in may (yes, I could look that up, but it would spoil the fun). E.g. I avoid places with air conditioning or to many fans. Ofc. AC in the sleeping room is fine ... getting it to like 25C or so.
Regarding religion, I have no deep opinion. Only kind of spirituality ... but probably not the right thing for /. to talk about. However - in my experience - the old saying: "You do not need to believe in Karma, to be bitten by it in the ass at the end." is very very true.
Modern religions have destroyed so much culture and knowledge, it just makes me sad. When I was in Thailand in February I met there a girl from the Philippines. She does not know _anything_ about ancient Philippine folklore, gods, fairy tales, deities etc. Perhaps she is an exception, no idea. My impression however is: the catholics made sure where ever they went, that nothing is left from old knowledge/gods etc.
I have no Sensei anymore. I'm practicing mainly Aikido, some Kenjutsu and to a lower extend Gojo Ryu Karate. Aikido since nearly 30 years, Kenjutsu since about 20 years and various Karate styles occasionally since 40 years (I'm more interested in traditions and "how to apply" techniques than "exercising" or "fighting"). When I'm in Thailand next time I will do Muay Boran (the Muay Thai analogon to Karate Kata) and Krabi Krabong (Muay Thai weapons). However I'm about once a month in Paris, sometimes a bit more sometimes a bit less for Aikido. Either giving classes (rarely) or studying with Bernard Palmier, Chrsitian Tissier, Endo Seishiro etc. The teacher who influenced me most is Frank Noel. Right now I'm mainly trying to catch old jap. teachers "that have not died yet" on seminars. E.g. Saotome Sensei (Washington DC), Yamada (Aikikai New York), or teachers from "the second tier". Like Yasuno Masatoshi, Ikeda Hiroshi or Miyamoto Tsuruzo.
Plenty of youtube videos available on them.
In case someone reads this: no, Aikidoka don't compete in cage fights. Your idea if Aikido "works" or does not, is your own thing. I live in a country where the streets are safe, so I don't "do it" for "self defense". I practice the martial arts mentioned above: because it is fun ... that was simplified.
The only guy who once challenged me was a well known Kung Fu practitioner. It started basically like always. He said my technique is bad. And I was to proud to listen and think (as he was an asshole anyway). So first he tried to explain me "how I could improve". Then when he attacked and I did my "Sankyo" I dislocated his shoulder. Obviously my technique worked. Coming back t
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
All those buildings that flood and need to be re-located will cost $$$. Wno is going to pay? Not me.
I wanted to wait to give this a reply that it deserves. Thus it is delayed longer than it would normally have been. I had to make sure I set aside time and mindset to reply. I almost said something but I realized if I'd said something then I'd never get back to reply. So, I left it unread until now.
If anyone doesn't think Akido is effective then they're really dumb. Much of my training was MCT. I'm going to skip the official martial arts and just resort to this, it's for the sake of brevity. MCT is Marine Corps Combat training. There are varied levels. This was a lot of years ago and the program has changed. Wow has it changed.
The program has changed a lot...
MCT was actually changed and is now taught differently. Why? It's too rough, seriously. They toned it down because it's not very useful in situations where you don't necessarily want to cause serious bodily injury or death. I'm thinking English is not your native language and I'm not sure what you know but it's a bit like you'd see the USSR Spetzna use or like you might see the Israeli special forces would use. I don't know what words you'd know so that's the best way to describe it.
Here's what it is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
It's a bit nicer. I was in before they toned it down the first time. The first time they toned it down, it went to the LINE system in the late 1980s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
However, it was also a bit like Okinawan Karate, Judo, Akido and Jiu-Jitsu. Avoid, grab, break, kill. There are multiple levels that you go up in and the training is very rough. It's rougher than anything I faced in the civilian world. It expands, as you go up, into a variety of weapons, weapons techniques, and things like that. We carry a small fold-out shovel. It's called an entrenching tool or an e-tool. It's kept sharp on one side for a reason. There is no competition fighting.
If I I had to put it on a civilian term - I'd say that, with a fairly good civilian instructor, say in Jui-Jitsu, just your first level MCT would put you at about a brown-belt level assuming it's the Western-style 5 belt system. If they use strikes/stripes then it's probably in the first strike category. After five full courses, I'd probably say, depending on the student, a good 4 to 6th degree in black. But, that's going to vary a whole lot depending on the instructor. I don't know any of the people you mentioned.
I only played around a bit after the Marines and for the four years while I was between the two enlistments. Other than that, I really don't consider the civilian stuff very similar at all - at least not as instructed here in the West. There are some good dojos out there - some great masters and instructors. They're fairly rare. For example, if I were about 20 years younger - I'd go get in the ring with that new silly televised fighting - UFC and MMA? Yeah, I'd go play there but they have rules.
I don't think I'd do well with rules. I'm big enough that I can take a hit, just come in past it, and take out the throat, sweep, and then stomp on their sternum with my heel. I'm not really sure how to fight another way - nor am I sure why I'd want to? So, I'd go get in the ring but I don't think they'd let me. Even if they're bigger than I am, I'm certainly faster - even at my age. I do stay in shape.
I've also had special protection detail and escort training - including asset protection driving school. LOL It's what I did in the military. I'm not some bad ass or anything. I'm pretty harmless. Someone would really have to piss me off to make me fight them. I'm not fond of it. Someone always ends up getting hurt, often times it's both of you - even if it's just a broken hand.
The links above give some information about what it looked like. I didn't find anything (I didn't look for long) really good otherwise. It was pretty dynamic and changed a bit depending o
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
If the Gulf Stream is interrupted, the net effect would be a rise of sea level along the entire US eastern seaboard - about 3 feet at Chesapeake Bay - _without_ changing global average sea level at all.
This is because the Gulf stream acts like a gradient, pulling water away from the US coastline.
This is a more likely near-term scenario than a 6 foot sea level rise (which would take at least a century) as all it takes is a decent size freshwater plume entering the northeast Atlantic ocean from Greenland glacier melt and the amount of freshwater coming in from this direction is increasing.
Freshwater in these volumes sits as a layer on top of salt and could force the Gulf Stream to "dive" or stall. There are a number of academic papers analysing this possibility and they all agree it's quite likely to occur if enough glacial melt occurs. The other effect would be a mini-ice age in northern europe (which is 5-8C warmer than it would be without the Gulf Stream transporting heat to the area) and it's been hypothesised that the middle ages cold period was due to a combination of volcanic eruptions and gulf stream effects.
A 6 foot sea level rise over a century doesn't need evacuations. Populations shift in faster cycles than this anyway. The bigger issue is large infrastructure planning to ensure things like major roads and power plants aren't going to be flooded before the end of their planned lifecycles.
I know about those fighting systems. But never met one who was trained in them. Would be cool to "role" a bit around see what the core is.
I guess it is focused on very close distances.
Besides Muay Boran etc. in Thailand and Burma I'm also interested in the Filipino arts like Escrima, Arnis, Kali etc.
Or when I once settle down: Maori fighting techniques. I don't know how their martial arts are called, but I prefer to work with weapons from a certain culture and educate my body with them instead of doing "self defense".
When you are in Asia, drop me a note :D
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I am familiar with Escrima. I had a friend who's father was a ranked master. I guess you could say my father and he were friends. They were both Marines. His son never joined the Marines and I've long since lost track. I once got to see his father spar with a master of Kenpo and that was exciting - it was also exceedingly fast. They were, truly, a blur.
I have been sitting here trying to think of ways to articulate this. I've probably spent about fifteen minutes pondering. I've typed, erased, and typed again. I'm going to guess that you've done some competitions or have been to competitions and that you've done a lot of sparring? If so, you notice how many martial artists will circle and seek a weakness?
I do not do that. I do not circle - nor do animals, more often than not. Only when animals are trained do they circle each other - usually. Normally, they go in straight. I depend on quick and precise, as opposed to brute force. It's actually graceful. It is finesse but sudden and exact. I will do something stupid (seeming) like take an easy strike and hit my opponent in the nose. I won't do that because I expect it to cause damage. I'm trained to do that because it blinds them for a moment, they will reach accordingly, and it then opens them up to other vulnerabilities such as taking out a knee.
I never, ever, kick higher than my waist - with one notable exception. If the opponent happens to be on the ground, I may kick as high as I possibly can so that I can slam my heel down on their sternum or throat.
I do not know what words you're used to but it's akin to Systema (Spetsnaz' martial art, sometimes called Systema Spetsnaz) and Krav Maga (Israeli martial art used by Mossad and IDF). They made the conscious choice to tame it quite a bit because it was considered too rough for use in Afghanistan and Iraq. No, that's not bragging or anything. They really did tame it just for that reason.
So, if you and I were in a fight then you'd probably beat me up. However, if you didn't beat me up then you'd be in a whole bunch of trouble. You're presumably younger, stronger, and faster than I. You've also probably dedicated many more hours to training than I have. That's okay, my ego isn't frail. You'd almost certainly kick my ass. If you did not kick my ass then you'd be in a spot of trouble.
Anyhow, the same goes to you. If you happen to get into the States then make sure you let me know ahead of time and I'll show you around. I know some people who are very heavily into martial arts - as in really into them and not into them as a fad or as a way to be tough. I'd be happy to show you around, introduce you, and even let you hang out at my house while doing so. I've got a guest house with plenty of room and it sits empty the vast majority of the time.
I hate calling it a guest house. It's just an old farmhouse that was here when I bought the place. I was going to have it torn down but it's from the 1840s, post and beam construction, and was in beautiful shape. So, instead of having it demolished and the basement filled in, I hired a company to come in and do a rehab and a restitution so that it's near original condition in a lot of ways. I've had a variety of people who used it for various purposes. It seems pompous to call it a guest house, though it technically is, and is disingenuous in that it implies more to it than there really is.
Ah well... At any rate, hit me up via email if you want. This thread is going to expire soon. The site is *not* up and running just yet but I'm working on a project. I'm getting https://kgiii.gq/ up and running and seeing what one can accomplish using nothing but free tools and their own labor. It does appear that the site is having some technical difficulties - it's at the server level. That's to be expected for a free hosting company but I was pleased to see that the outage was expected to happen and was announced. They're actually in the process of replacing some hardware.
Seriously, feel free to visit or to
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Arg, all the nice stuff I wrote is gone ... needed to restart my laptop.
Yeah, many interesting points you raise. I will only rarely quote something, as many points I make fit to different parts of your post.
I have been sitting here trying to think of ways to articulate this. I've probably spent about fifteen minutes pondering.
Understandable, fragments of "what to answer" are wandering in my mind since more than a week.
I visited your web page, thanx for the invitation, as soon as we can not talk here anymore or if you wish right now, we can switch to your site.
Beating you up :D So if we had a sparring, I guess you would be winning. However I occasionally spar with some BJJ guys, usually they win in the end, but it is quite fun as it takes them quite long to get me down/to submission. Well, rules, you know, I can not simply kick them in the throat when they jump for my legs, and who would harm a "friend" in a friendly sparring just "to show off"? ... we used gloves like in boxing but smaller. This refers to "the rules". I found it incredible difficult to even see my opponent!! And consider in Boxing you are not allowed (rules) to "block" attacks but have to dodge them or "accept" them with the gloves/fists.
Most seriously not, my main martial art is Aikido, we don't have competitions, hence I'm rather slow and likely don't have the eye for tricky moves. I'm quite confident with swords, so
Ah, I did some "sparring" last year in a "street fight club" (yeah, long story)
Circle (dancing) (Or rules as in scoring points) ... rough estimate. After the war most were forbidden but would be practiced secretly. Soon competitions during "grading" became common especially in the sword or traditional weapon related arts, like Kashima Shin Ryu. Plenty of serious injuries and even death were common. Until all "competitions" in "gradings" with weapons (wooden swords usually) were forbidden. What remained are Kendo, sword fighting with bamboo swords and armor that protects the "point zones", you are only allowed to strike the zones with armor, and only with certain kinds of strikes. In the early 90th it had two fatalities because a thrust leaded to a broken bamboo sword and the splinters went through the mask and killed the victims. Two such cases happened in so short order, that the attack "thrust" was forbidden from the "rules" of legal strikes. Later it got introduced again, the Kendo masks have now a plexi glas armor in the inside and only a hole for breathing.
Yes, I neither would circle one. If one would circle me, I would just turn on the spot. With swords, depending on distance, I would perhaps not move at all, does not really matter if he is behind me as long as he is a bit more than 2 yards away. Standard Aikido is about dodging the attack and using the force of the attacker in a more or less circular movement. However to come to the point where both bodies collide you simply advance straight forward. (And turn at the latest moment) Advanced Aikido is very different, you stay on the line and try to anticipate the attack in a way that you can deflect it and break the balance of the partner in the moment of contact. And as Aikido is mainly about educating your body and not about fighting, most Aikidoka that needed to fight simply went straight into the enemy.
I picked this line of yours because of some history I like to share. 90% of jap. martial arts have no competitions. Before the war it was about 75%
Most Karate styles had no competition. But around the war time and later some styles introduced competition. In the end most (all?) Karate styles followed.
The point of this chapter is: rules and dancing and circling. In old school Karate during competition you had only three rules: (1) a technique needs to be applied in a way that from the outside view of a judge it is deadly or maiming. However, you had to "stop" the attack, depending on school millimeters before hitt
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.