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US Customs Wants To Know Travelers' Social Media Account Names (helpnetsecurity.com)
Orome1 quotes a report from Help Net Security: The U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency has submitted a request to the Office of Management and Budget, asking for permission to collect travelers social media account names as they enter the country. The CBP, which is part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, proposes that the request "Please enter information associated with your online presence -- Provider/Platform -- Social media identifier" be added to the Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) and to the CBP Form I-94W (Nonimmigrant Visa Waiver Arrival/Departure). "It will be an optional field to request social media identifiers to be used for vetting purposes, as well as applicant contact information," the CBP noted. "Collecting social media data will enhance the existing investigative process and provide DHS greater clarity and visibility to possible nefarious activity and connections by providing an additional tool set which analysts and investigators may use to better analyze and investigate the case." The public and affected agencies are asked to comment on the request within 60 days of its publication. Commenters are asked to send their comments to this address.
Especially when a Slashdot type person goes "don't have one, don't need one, don't want one". Then you end up in the little room as a suspicious person.
Guess I'm not going to the US.
This will not end well for those without,or who refuse.
Expect "if you have nothing to hide" arguments.
Stay the fuck out of america unless you absolutely fucking have to go there
As a foreigner who lives outside of china and USA it is far easier to travel around China now than the USA. Also the chances of getting shot at while taking in the views are next to zero in china compared to the USA.
...extremists are busy creating new FB accounts and smothering them with cat pics and lolz.
FUCK YOU CBP.
Any real terrorist cell with two brain cells to put together will have a well maintained perfectly clean set of social media accounts. All I see is a huge jobs program requiring more CPB "investigators" to vet all this bullshit.
My username is TSAAreKnobGobblers69 (because 1 through 68 were already taken).
Which ones do they want?
On Fetlife I'm...
On Literotica I'm...
On MyFreeCams I'm...
On Google+ I'm... (of course you aren't in my circle, but I do share publicly about once a week)
On Twitter you won't see activity ever since Google+ came on the scene.
On Youtube, oh wait, you didn't like the Fetlife stuff; you can't see the private stuff on Youtube anyway, been years since I posted a public video...
Makes me wonder if anyone's kink is learning others' kinks?
And when I say I don't have any social media accounts, how long will it take for me to get out of the "suspicious person detention cage"?
I have no facebook, no twitter, no instagram, no pinterest, no linkedin, no nothin'. I'm screwed.
Guess it's time to make a bunch of accounts and fill them with pictures of adorable cats and cute puppy dogs.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
No one needs to know all my associates and random online links.
no one but a slave would answer that question.
People give out this information freely.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
What the fuck?!!!!
I mean, just pull us all into the back room and start the waterboarding already.
They don't learn, do they? L'il Bobby Tables & friends it is then. They're probably running some version of Oracle on the backend, so keep that in mind while you are registering your new completely legitimate social media account names expressly for this use.
My online presence is Anonymous Coward. You will notice from my history, that I have nothing to hide. In fact, you may not even see my posts, unless you click load all comments 1000 times.
"Slashdot.org" / "Anonymous Coward"
@gofuckyourself
sincerely,
AC
Umm...
So just have a seperate account you use to plan the destruction of Western Civilization, maybe? Just sayin'...
Or it could just be a pre-screening step to figure out which ones are stupid enough to get caught up in one of the FBI's entrapment schemes since that's the only way they actually catch any 'terrorists'.
If you don't have one, they won't believe you and you are suspicious...?
So - where is the personal freedom the US-folks are so proud of?
I think this goes along religious freedom - do you have to tell anyone what "religion", you belong to or none if you are agnostic?
Do you have to tell anyone what political party or flavor you belong to, find good?
On the same level believe in what's happening in Soc. Media or the purpose of it being beneficial or not.
- what books you read, like, find good or despise..
Mind control....
All this (Trump talk and direction of primitive thought) can severely backfire into something like 3rd Reich, where people were classified by some criteria and then the whole accumulated hatred in people not belonging to this "class" was ignited by some needy demagogue and has been directed to those classes.
Still happening all over, just look....
https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...
It's not just the United States, and it isn't against the citizens of the United States.
_ _ _ Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!
Thai Immigration is beginning to request the same information of foreigners entering or staying in the country. Thailand is under military junta at the moment.
I am living in Thailand on a Non - Immigrant retirement visa and had thought I might leave, in part, due to this invasion of privacy. But I see the US junta has the same aspirations.
How about a checkbox:
Evil []
DHS: We would not post anything on your facebook
Fine script: by sharing your information, you agree to selling your account to 1000 affiliate fb spammers
Just warming the world up until the they're ready to make it mandatory.
Hmmm, travel to the USA anywhere else on the planet. Tough choice but I'll go with anywhere else on the planet. I've pretty much been up and down Asia, continental Europe, UK and the Middle East. The USA was on my todo list (just never got around to it, came close in 2010), looks like it's now off it.
Is this another case of we've got to get the suspect to agree so we can use the illegally gotten evidence?
If you care little enough about privacy to be on "social media" why would you care?
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Do you want to know mine or the ones I use? When you're in IT security, you get so many credentials to use...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
And good luck to them proving otherwise.
And in the next iteration, account names will be mandatory, together with the passwords for them (verified on the spot by your friendly customs people) and the PINs for your banking cards?
The PSA (Paranoid States of America) still shit their pants because of one terrorist incident a decade ago, while local yokels with guns (including the police) kill ten times that much people per year.
facebook login : 'nono yubiznass', password : 'soduff'
google+ login : 'sakmahi dik', password : 'faggot'
smartasses are going to love that!
I like Wikileaks on Facebook, they'll never let me in.
Looks like they just want to make it official.
Problem solved.
This is a request from a bureaucrat for permission. There's 60 days for the public to weigh in. If you don't like it, instead of bitching on /., call your congressman/submit an opinion through the proper channels.
Your ad here. Ask me how!
Perhaps the Staasi^H^H^H^HDHS would also like a copy of my library card? You know, just in case. I might be accessing forbidden knowledge, and remember citizens, unregulated knowledge is pornography.
Satire and hyperbole aside, they already have your CC details from the ESTA so they probably already have access your your Amazon purchasing history. Which in this day an age is almost the equivalent.
Orders of magnitude difference.
Lifetime odds:
1. Attacked by shark in Australia: ~300,000,000:1*
2. Shot at in US: ~7,944:1
*For the USA the most commonly quoted odds are: 11,500,000:1. So Oz is still safer for shark attacks.
Couldn't find data on death by Chinese road accident (in English or Spanish)
sooo what happens if you dont have any social media accounts because you dont have any friends? do they provide you with some friends? can you choose from a list or something? im interested in friends with boats, large boats, with hookers on top of them
After spending money on plane tickets, expensive VISA and a really expensive travel interview, they now want your help to search your digital footprint. Since it's all corporate 'owned' information, why can't the DHS just download it from the NSA? Is that data sharing law working in their fight against tourists, sorry, terrorists?
Last summer, for the first time, the USA was aggressively advertised as the 'go-to' destination. Tourism was stagnant for 2015 but the US expects normality in subsequent years. The USA thinks holiday-makers have to do what they say.
They already ask for your email. And have acess to major social media providers' logs and databases. And have the technology to join the dots. Why would they ask?
(And any fule kno that all major subversive business is done in dark corners of Club Penguin.)
... it points out that I've stopped visiting the US because I'm sick of being treated like a criminal by their border control staff.
There are so many nicer, cheaper places where I'm greeted with a welcome and a smile and if they want to lose tourist dollars to the competition then that's up to them.
It's "Commander Taco".
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Google created google+ accounts for every gmail user. People laughed at its pathetic attempt to ape facebook. Now who's laughing? Google was actually doing all gmail users a favor. There will be an useless google+ account that no one bothers to look at, but will qualify as the social media account for the purpose of filling out some damned form to TSA!
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
I'm known as "EatShitTSA" on most social networks....
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
It is the natural course of every government to expand indefinitely in terms of both revenue and power over the people. That's because coercive authority is a business, and like any business, total domination is the end goal.
Will this be in addition to the gang anal probing?
I am sure they already have the complete, private social media files on everyone, and are just looking for a way to legalize their unconstitutional possession of it.
We all know Mark Fuckerberg is a commie pinko globalist and happily turns over everyone's private profile data to the world government...
Modern Day Shakedown.
Even as a US Citizen it is fucking absurd. I had one flight into Boston that took longer to get through immigration that flight itself - AS A US CITIZEN!
My wife never wants to come back. I don't blame her. It's a straight up humiliating process.
Foreigners coming into the US might be more willing to give up their social media, since they don't live here, but I'd be damn if a US native leaving the border gives it up. It is a complete waste of time and money.
There's about $300M cost to the public estimated in relation to the change.
1) McDonald's keeps burgers in hotboxes for hours in America too.
2) They don't eat beef in India, so their burgers probably taste like shit because they're water buffalo.
The questions are so that after you commit a crime they can charge you with additional crimes such as 'lying on a federal form'. They are not really interested in preventing crime, they are interested in being able to incarcerate you after you commit it. Brilliant, isn't it?
Not versus users of ESTA, who have very little to no legal standing in the first place.
"Put a small-minded man in a position of power, and you can guarantee he will find a way to use it."
No matter how petty, no matter how unfair, he WILL find a way to use his pawn power to punish you -- and his fellow pawns will applaud him for it.
Keep that in mind whenever you find yourself on a pawn's watch: he's just waiting for a reason to exercise his power, licking his chops at the mere thought. He WANTS you to challenge him.
So we are supposed to write comments, and send them to: Written comments may be mailed to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Attn: Paperwork Reduction Act Officer, Regulations and Rulings, Office of Trade, 90 K Street NE., 10th Floor, Washington, DC 20229-1177. Does anyone else find that amusing?
Newsflash, TSA! There are multiple people with the same name on FB (and other social media). How does one indicate which of hundreds of John Smith's one is?
Its optional.... I wouldn't give it to them and I hope nobody else would either.
This Fatherland Security expansionism needs a swift kick in the nuts. Its time to start rolling it back severely and sending these security theater jokers to the unemployment line where they belong.
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
what happens when you give them an icq number and they think it's a phone number?
lose != loose
These days it's probably a good idea to have a facebook account. Even if you just add a few people, and like a few cat pictures a year and log off again.
Website Just Down For Me? Find out
The US government already has access to their computers via Microsoft built-in backdoors.
How did you get that data mrs. spy? Oh.. huh huhuhuuhhh Customs is permitted to attain that data and our agency cooperates with theirs.
Whereas right now it is just "don't tell how you got it".
If they start to check the comments I have posted they would arrest me for treason
"Go ask the NSA".
Or, alternatively, search my name in Facebook.
Otherwise, fuck off. Arrest me if you must, but - with few exceptions and this is not one of them - you must must admit U.S. citizens.
1. National ID numer other than passport (er ... wth?). Mandatory.
2. Parents' names (wtbh??). Mandatory.
3. Current employer (wtgdbh!?). Mandatory.
4. Additional citizienships/nationalities.
5. Past national ID documents of any other country.
So ... what's the big deal with asking for social media stuff? That's just a drop in the ocean compared to the questions above.
My favourite thing to enter into required fields of obnoxious web forms is "unrequired". Language. It's a beautiful tool for escaping the box.
Now I just need to sign up to a social media account on unrequired.com and I'll be all set.
Unfortunately, it's presently a blank page hosted at godaddy.
I would tell them to go Fuck themselves and that I'm an American and I'm coming home they they can go fly. If they want that information they need to get a search warrant. I plead the 5th. I can sort of understand why these guys want to search your electronic equipment for possibly child porn or other illegal activities you might have done while out of the country. But access to my social media accounts? I'm sorry you have my answer, I plead the 5th and you can go fuck yourselves.....
Paul E. Bahre
Does the DHS think terrorists are dumb or is this not a plan to monitor terrorist as they claim. Terrorists know that every phone call and social media account they have are subject to snooping by the US government and probably avoid raising eyebrows by not having social networking accounts and avoiding calling other terrorists or sending emails to them. If they have a social networking account chances are the government will be monitoring this account even if they don't indicate that they have such an account.
If you make a claim that you don't have any social network but it turns out your Facebook account you supposedly deleted years ago suddenly reappears can you get into trouble for perjury even though you had no idea that your Facebook account from years ago was reactivated? I deleted mine years ago and sometimes it returns with all the privacy settings changed to the default settings. I have to change the privacy settings to what they were before and delete my account again but it will return again sometime.