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DC Cancels Comic Where Jesus Learns From Superhero After Outcry (theguardian.com)
AmiMoJo writes: A new comics series in which Jesus Christ is sent on "a most holy mission by God" to learn "what it takes to be the true messiah of mankind" from a superhero called Sun-Man, has been cancelled by DC Comics. The move follows a petition that called it "outrageous and blasphemous". The Second Coming series, from DC imprint Vertigo, was due to launch on 6 March. Written by Mark Russell and illustrated by Richard Pace, its story followed Jesus's return to Earth. "Shocked to discover what has become of his gospel," he teams up with a superhero, Sun-Man, who is more widely worshipped than him.
This sounds like something I would totally read.
Think of the children!
and someone would get crucified if it were one that was less forgiving.
Ignore those touchy bigot Christians and just switch the book to use Muhammad and the religion of tolerance and peace. That works...right?
Those Muslim theocracies are all stuck in the Middle Age. It is as if Enlightenment never happened for them.
Oh, wait...
Well, if this is real, then it may finally be time for Norwegians to stand up and demand the halt of this blasphemous portrayal of Thor Odinson, the god of Thunder!
This is an april fools joke right? Who would greenlight this?
Or did Southpark acquire DC comics? Will Jesus defeat Santa Claus?
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
In the middle of the comic they were planning to have a connect-the-dots Mohamed image.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
hard to believe somebody would actually invest in this idea
"Outrageous and blasphemous"? Bring it on!
There's always going to be some people who are pissed off at something. If you always listen to them, you'll never put anything out at all.
They should have just doubled down and rolled with this.
Is an allegory of Western Capitalism.
Never heard of this before, but now I want it badly.
Thanks for the publicity, CitizenGo!
Whether it is middle-eastern suicode bombers, Vatican boy rapists, or this kind of fake-victimhood terrorism.
Not being allowed to take the freedom of other people does not equal you having your freedom taken away, dear terrorists. It is not harm, to forbid somebody to harm you.
And free speech is one of he most fundamental guaranteed freedoms.
You even have the right to *say* you want to take the freedom of others.
But we are not obliged to comply. And we have the right to say you are morons and terrorists.
I know factual reality is not your thing, but in his case, such statements are not slander, as they are factually true.
Just do it about that guy instead. I'm sure they wouldn't have to re-write much.
Just like the Blues Brothers???
This isn't completely new territory. Miracleman was notable for its release from the 'superhero' concept once the main character realized his life was a simplistic morality play written for children - and then decided to ACTUALLY start making things better for everyone.
There's the usual beating someone with the same powers as them (basically superman), with horrific results, and then ... then they legitimately improve the world. Rebuilding, undoing death, creating a post-scarcity society, becoming part of the larger universe.
And they didn't ignore or shy away from the religious overtones.
Made for a really good exploration of concepts - shame that it was basically tied up in legal ownership muck for many, many years.
Think of it this way - if we got time travel, or the ability to re-create things/people from the past - woudln't one of the absolutely first things folks would do would be to visit/recreate Jesus of Nasareth? Even if just to see what that story really was?
This guy made a fictional story where the Jesus and God are lesser characters in a story. A certain self-proclaimed prophet Mohammad did the same thing, I suppose. There's a lot to learn as long as you don't take it as gospel, so to speak.
The other white meat^W^Wmiddle-eastern strain of psychotic terrorists.
Not that there is a relevant difference. Just 500 years of age difference. In 500 years they will channel their inquisition amd witch burning urges int secretly raping children too. ;)
Long ago - late '60s or early '70s - among the counter culture comic books like Zap, there was Sun-O-God Comix that was pretty outrageous in a wacky way. So this is hardly new. Central character was a yeshiva student. It'd be considered wildly anti-Semitic now but I'm sure the Christian Right would be the most offended. After all, this was back in the '60s. The whole point was to offend people. Like long hair and beards and no bra. Shocking!
DC Comics announced this book 3 months ago. Protests happened then and were ignored. It was only this week, one day after the publisher received their pre-order data, did they decide to cancel. That's not a coincidence.
You can have a Norse superhero, you can have a black superhero but god forbid we get a Jewish superhero!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
If this was a Muhammad comic.
OH!! We don't have to imagine.. There was an example of this in France just a few years ago.
How did that work out?
Sounds just as good as this "gem" of a show from the 90's
get your cringe on:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bible+man
Then they truly do not believe.
I am religious, and have faith. But I also enjoy reading fiction that some would find blasphemy. What I read does not shake my faith. If these people are so offended, their faith has been brought into question. Then they are not as religious as they think they are.
Anonymous comments are as pathetic as the anonymous "sources" that contaminate gutless journalism from the New York Time
Jesus, Muhammad, Krishna, Xenu... same bull, other flavor.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I'm sad to see they buckled to a petition.
To me the comic sounds dumb and offensive and likely to lose money, but it's far better to let the market prove this out than to preemptively censor them via an outrage posse.
... I'm wondering if there is any reason that this story is news here other than as fan service for readers that get satisfaction from bashing Christianity or other religions?
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
It looks like the story will get out, just that DC didn’t want the controversy.
CitizenGo claimed the decision as a victory, telling Syfy Wire that Second Coming “portrays a false view” of Jesus, who is “not a failure”. It added: “Most children grow up reading about iconic DC superheroes like Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman. It would be a shame to market this false view of Jesus as an equal read to these figures.”
Let me get his straight. Stories about mythical persons who die, come back, have evil twins, cavort with God figures and can have multiple conflicting story lines are iconic but don’t you dare touch Jesus because someone my think your version is the one true story? I wonder if Wonder Woman would be so iconic to CitizenGo if she were gay. Maybe, just don’t put her likeness on a bus.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
Jesus had the cooler story. And he was the better Copperfield.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
It's a film I really enjoyed.
It's about a high school theater production where Jesus comes back but has to be cool and he time travels to save characters from Hamlet. Super well made (it's a movie with an actual musical at the end).
"Rock me, rock me, rock me sexy Jesus!":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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Holy shitballs who thought this was a good idea.
Just as taste of how shitty this idea is I present to you.
BIBLE MAN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV3thXw-pso
I'm looking forward to see their version of capitalism.
Welcome the Theocracy of the United States. Where decisions are based in theology rather than capitalism, science or common sense. Sort of like those countries in the middle east the US has been at war with for almost 20 years.....
The Christians are acting as butthurt as the Muslims
I am sure this will matter more than censorship of right wing views.
Heroes die once, cowards live longer.
Seems more fitting storyline for the "religion of peace".
Makes up stories, claims to do AMAZING THINGS, lies about where he spent the weekend, then wants 10% of your income.
Offense culture inevitably leads to blasphemy culture and these are early signs of this phenomenon. If West ends up living in Theocracy, we can all thank SJWs for that.
Oh, the Christians might be upset about a trivialization of Jesus?
I thought they were worried the Aztecs would be upset of the representation of Nanahuatzin in a comic book. Boy, you sure don't want to piss off those Aztecs!
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
How about instead of distorting or conflating religion, you teach the truth. Truth about the sinful nature of man, truth that God loves His creation and wanted to save man from the destruction of sin, truth of how this story is about love because God is love. Oh yeah, because no one on DC knows anything about the greatest story and instead thinks theirs is the greatest story and God needs help somehow.
And who says we don't live in a theocracy...
They ditched when they saw it wasn't going to do well; otherwise, they'd pull crap like killing Superman just to sell some more tired old crap.
Hey, isn't Superman a SUN powered god? Didn't superman become a Jesus proxy? They didn't have the guts to use superman; it had to have crossed their mind.
As stupid as it sounds it could have been funny to see a make over Jesus in spandex and a cape multiplying food and being a preachy un-dead immortal trying to appeal to little boys -- who tend to resolve their emotions physically... in a comic book character fashion.
I sure hope somebody at South Park catches wind of this story! This could turn out so much better...
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Aren't the people getting bent out of shape about this the same people who go on and on about "free speech" when they have to demonize other religions?
"I'm a humble person really,
I'm actually much greater than I think I am"
Christians are basically super butthurt fanbois who freak out any time someone challenges (or tries to extend) their cannon. It's a shame DC cancelled their run to appeal to these idiots.
That would be on the first few weeks. Later it would be a "fold here" like they used to have in Mad Magazine a gazillion years ago. (80-ies?)
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
Clearly you've never offended a Scientologist.
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How dare they concoct a ridiculous fictional character and use it like this? I'm outraged. Also, the other character Sun-Man deserves a better story line.
Speaking of which, it's you that has fallen into that trap. "Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other!" - Luke 12:51
Or maybe the comic author is Christian and is just writing/drawing what they know? Also, most Muslims would not want to kill the author for this (and would claim those who do want to are bad Muslims), and that there are some Christians who would also want to kill the author.
This is literally Christians acting like Muslim fundamentalists... and you're still trying to make it look like you/we are so much better.
Just have a bit of patience. They'll probably "progress" from holy wars to child rape quicker than we Christians did.
At least, that's what they told me in religion class.
Thus, those who call it blasphemy to show the Son of God taking a lesson from someone his Father created have told us that God wouldn't do that.
Like us in all things but sin; unlike us in $act; therefore $act is sinful.
I see their unspoken position--taking a lesson from you means I'm less than you; to show God as "less than" would be blasphemy.
For them, hubris is a virtue (they call it being "righteous")
In this case I can't fault them for hypocrisy; they are self-consistent here.
I dispute their fundamental premise--that letting someone teach you something makes you "less than".
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick
If someone made a Mohammed comic, and then couldn't understand why their office was cleansed with an AK-47.
I think the religious fundamentalists and critics who are trying to stop Second Coming aren't interested in protecting Christ so much as their ability to control his narrative... They probably (correctly) suspect that it's not Christ who's being parodied, but themselves and how they've twisted his teachings of mercy for the powerless into a self-serving tool of the powerful. - Comic's Author Mark Russell
breath of fresh air that.
- js.
For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie.
Mystery Red of the Great American Eclipse
It has blood on it!
ABCNews: Eclipse makes pendulum wander
Sound of Silence
Whatever you do, don't show these petitioners a copy of Preacher. Their heads would explode.
On second thought, do. Do show them copies.
Happy people make bad consumers.
(80-ies?)
So, eighty-ies? I think you meant the 80s, or perhaps the eighties.
Just imagine if this guy wrote about Mohammed.
I'm sure the folks who petitioned against this were thrilled to have something else to deflect away attention from their own blasphemies and sins.
When reading the title i was expecting non religious people to be miffed by the intrusion of religious fanfiction in their stuff. Well, it was the other way around. But i know next to nothing to seperheroes and the public interested in them.
Isn't all sort of advert a good advert ? Coudln't they sell the comic surfing over a wave of comical christfags whining ? For the fun of it ?
So, he was here before?
Oy vey!
Have gnu, will travel.
If we don't extend permanent copyright protection to the bible and derived works, then its authors will retroactively lose all their incentive to have created the work.
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The Sun-Man is clearly a reference to a sun worship cult very popular among Roman soldiers of the time. They had almost identical rituals to those of early church and considered vine as blood as well. The early church took offense due to this similarity and considered Mithraism as worship of Satan. This similarity is considered to have made it easier for the Roman military to organically convert to early Christianity. The comic is probably a commentary of these curious events and facts.
Hey there Mr. 666, as an aside, did you know there was a Son of Satan comic? Marvel ran it in the mid-seventies.
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This new Vertigo lineup has been a mockery of what the old Vertigo series were. In the past, they had people who were pros with a history and skill. The new lineup is being written by a bunch of SJW political hacks that literally don't care if the series fail or not. Zoe Quinn, really? There are no editors actually working on it. The plots of these new series are god awful extremist political garbage. I can't really stress how messed up all of this is. I don't know what they were thinking when they approved this relaunch. This isn't Vertigo. Ironically, the Jesus parody was the only one that didn't look like complete trash. If you don't believe me, download the comics and read them. I guess they feel a need to compete with Marvel in the SJW demographic and that was a complete disaster of Marvel Comics.
In the comic version, Thor is the hammer. Jesus is the nail.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
perhaps they could do a one pager where Sun-Man says 'look I am more popular than you', and Buddha replies 'Is that so?', smiles, and goes back to Nirvana.
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Jesus is the third rail of popular culture - you touch it and you die - as John Lennon famously discovered.
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I say the community because the point keeps coming up: Christianity is just farther along than Islam.
The Bible really only has 1 punishment: Death. And several of the Commandments folks like to ignore make it so that images of God are a huge no-no. Historically the reason for this was to keep power concentrated with the priesthood (folks who know their history know that government & religion were often the same thing for a very long time).
This comes up when folks ask a YouTube skeptic "why so many videos on Christianity when Islam will kill you for drawing their prophet?". The answer is Christianity has a more immediate impact on their lives because of the countries they live in, and that they're more afraid of their country regressing back to the point where Christians have the same power to forcefully enact their will as many Muslims wield.
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Delicate conservatives who can't handle being offended.
until zealots burn your house down.
https://comixjoint.com/jesusco...
"If you liked the New Testament, you'll love this new, improved testament"
Alternatively: Even the grave couldn't stop him - he's coming after you and he WANTS YOUR SOUL!
The SJWs (Super Jesus Warriors) strike again.
I can't believe they canceled a comic with such marketing potential.
If I were in charge of DC I would not only have NOT canceled this comic, I would have made a special edition cover with sun-man in gold foil, Jesus in silver foil, and in big letters proclaimed it to be the "Blasphemous Solarity Edition". Probably only 500k run at first just to be a bit safe, charging $20 a pop. You'd sell 100k copies just to the people who wanted to burn a copy on YouTube alone!
In fact that brings to mind ANOTHER brilliant idea, an even more limited edition that contained strontium nitrate particles embedded in the cover that would cause the whole thing to burn with a brilliant red flame! Those would go for $50 and would look AMAZING being burnt in disgust on YouTube, and you could save on production costs by not even printing the insides.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
We've come full circle almost. Rest assured by now the catholic church is already thinking about the next inquisition and recruiting candidates. We also might see a new wave of witch hunting if we continue on this totally absurd path.
The characters are "Sun-Man" and "The Son of Man" *facepalm*
Sound more thought provoking than the Bible.
torture, witch burning, rape, and the lot.
You can stop acting like you did not get that I meant Christianity 500 years ago being exactly like Islam today, and Islam getting there too some day.
(Frankly, Islam would first have to get even worst to match wath Christianity did back then.)
I'm sane (what you call "atheism", but without a concept of "belief" at all,and instead basing my views on experienced reality) by the way.
What no Muhammad?
A hero we COULD believe in.
But then the Catholic Church would sue for portraying them as Satanic child sex predators who run the darkweb for childporn. Truth.. but speak truth and suffer!
No one likes your stupid Chix tracts. Eat a cock you whiney faggit.
The last time a DC writer wanted to use Jesus resulted in the creator quitting.
https://ohdannyboy.blogspot.com/2011/10/morning-of-magician-swamp-thing-meets.html
Nail him to the cross again assholes
it's about _control_. You want to be the exclusive source for comment and truth about your God so that folks have to get to God through _you_. Then you can charge them for the privilege.
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most Muslims would not want to kill the author for this
Probably correct.
(and would claim those who do want to are bad Muslims)
Absolutely incorrect.
I don't want ISIS or their brothers fundie christians(with whom they share near identical social values) near my comics or politics.
Hooray blasphemy!
Then see if theyâ(TM)ll publish that.
That being said, as Jesus is big on the prophet list in the Quran, I am continually surprised that someone from Islam hasnâ(TM)t gone jihadist on folk that mock Jesus.
A comic about a religious n1gg3r faggot who fucks stupid white people in the ass.
https://www.blueletterbible.or... John 1:1 KJV - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ...is still better than anything written by mankind, before or since.
If any of you would be interested in a good overall introduction to the Bible, I can't recommend Dr. Chuck Missler's work highly enough for "nerds"--> https://www.youtube.com/playli...
He comes from an Information Technology background, and presents some insight into the authenticity of the Bible that I had not seen in my 35+ years of study. He doesn't "preach", he just teaches according to what he has found over many decades of Bible study. Could be the best 24 hours you'll ever invest in anything in your life....
When the king heard the words of the Book of the Law he tore his robes.2Kings22:11
There are a lot of aspects to comics. Concept, story, art, characters, history, regularity, etc.
While the concept might have been interesting, the actual story was less so, and the artwork was bleh. None of the characters had an active history and following in the comics, so there is a big hurdle to acceptance. Individual comics nowadays cost like half a regular movie ticket price or more and comics devotees are already shelling out for comics with concepts, stories, artist and writers they already know and love with a long history of delivering on a regular basis.
Publishers cast new comics out all the time. Few make it. Sometimes a creator had a personal interest and will keep injecting characters in mainline comics hoping they will catch on. Sometimes they do, often they don't. Just like the movies. From some of the early Marvel outings you might not expect the current billion dollar blockbusters were going to happen, but they did. If they knew the right formula for a real hit, we wouldn't see quite so much dreck.
But at least they keep trying and we love them for that.
Have you seen him? A stiff wind and he's be airborne in a minute flat.
And if getting America to talk seriously about single payer healthcare in 2019 isn't a super power I don't know what is.
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A comic where they draw the prophet and market it to Iran and UAE?
go look up Specter. The don't call him "God", he's The Presence. So this is hardly a stretch.
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