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DC Cancels Comic Where Jesus Learns From Superhero After Outcry (theguardian.com)
AmiMoJo writes: A new comics series in which Jesus Christ is sent on "a most holy mission by God" to learn "what it takes to be the true messiah of mankind" from a superhero called Sun-Man, has been cancelled by DC Comics. The move follows a petition that called it "outrageous and blasphemous". The Second Coming series, from DC imprint Vertigo, was due to launch on 6 March. Written by Mark Russell and illustrated by Richard Pace, its story followed Jesus's return to Earth. "Shocked to discover what has become of his gospel," he teams up with a superhero, Sun-Man, who is more widely worshipped than him.
This sounds like something I would totally read.
and someone would get crucified if it were one that was less forgiving.
Ignore those touchy bigot Christians and just switch the book to use Muhammad and the religion of tolerance and peace. That works...right?
Well, if this is real, then it may finally be time for Norwegians to stand up and demand the halt of this blasphemous portrayal of Thor Odinson, the god of Thunder!
This is an april fools joke right? Who would greenlight this?
Or did Southpark acquire DC comics? Will Jesus defeat Santa Claus?
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
The Judge and my therapist says I shouldn't.
In the middle of the comic they were planning to have a connect-the-dots Mohamed image.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
hard to believe somebody would actually invest in this idea
"Outrageous and blasphemous"? Bring it on!
There's always going to be some people who are pissed off at something. If you always listen to them, you'll never put anything out at all.
They should have just doubled down and rolled with this.
Whether it is middle-eastern suicode bombers, Vatican boy rapists, or this kind of fake-victimhood terrorism.
Not being allowed to take the freedom of other people does not equal you having your freedom taken away, dear terrorists. It is not harm, to forbid somebody to harm you.
And free speech is one of he most fundamental guaranteed freedoms.
You even have the right to *say* you want to take the freedom of others.
But we are not obliged to comply. And we have the right to say you are morons and terrorists.
I know factual reality is not your thing, but in his case, such statements are not slander, as they are factually true.
Just like the Blues Brothers???
This isn't completely new territory. Miracleman was notable for its release from the 'superhero' concept once the main character realized his life was a simplistic morality play written for children - and then decided to ACTUALLY start making things better for everyone.
There's the usual beating someone with the same powers as them (basically superman), with horrific results, and then ... then they legitimately improve the world. Rebuilding, undoing death, creating a post-scarcity society, becoming part of the larger universe.
And they didn't ignore or shy away from the religious overtones.
Made for a really good exploration of concepts - shame that it was basically tied up in legal ownership muck for many, many years.
Think of it this way - if we got time travel, or the ability to re-create things/people from the past - woudln't one of the absolutely first things folks would do would be to visit/recreate Jesus of Nasareth? Even if just to see what that story really was?
This guy made a fictional story where the Jesus and God are lesser characters in a story. A certain self-proclaimed prophet Mohammad did the same thing, I suppose. There's a lot to learn as long as you don't take it as gospel, so to speak.
Long ago - late '60s or early '70s - among the counter culture comic books like Zap, there was Sun-O-God Comix that was pretty outrageous in a wacky way. So this is hardly new. Central character was a yeshiva student. It'd be considered wildly anti-Semitic now but I'm sure the Christian Right would be the most offended. After all, this was back in the '60s. The whole point was to offend people. Like long hair and beards and no bra. Shocking!
You can have a Norse superhero, you can have a black superhero but god forbid we get a Jewish superhero!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Then they truly do not believe.
I am religious, and have faith. But I also enjoy reading fiction that some would find blasphemy. What I read does not shake my faith. If these people are so offended, their faith has been brought into question. Then they are not as religious as they think they are.
Anonymous comments are as pathetic as the anonymous "sources" that contaminate gutless journalism from the New York Time
Jesus, Muhammad, Krishna, Xenu... same bull, other flavor.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I'm sad to see they buckled to a petition.
To me the comic sounds dumb and offensive and likely to lose money, but it's far better to let the market prove this out than to preemptively censor them via an outrage posse.
It looks like the story will get out, just that DC didn’t want the controversy.
CitizenGo claimed the decision as a victory, telling Syfy Wire that Second Coming “portrays a false view” of Jesus, who is “not a failure”. It added: “Most children grow up reading about iconic DC superheroes like Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman. It would be a shame to market this false view of Jesus as an equal read to these figures.”
Let me get his straight. Stories about mythical persons who die, come back, have evil twins, cavort with God figures and can have multiple conflicting story lines are iconic but don’t you dare touch Jesus because someone my think your version is the one true story? I wonder if Wonder Woman would be so iconic to CitizenGo if she were gay. Maybe, just don’t put her likeness on a bus.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
Jesus had the cooler story. And he was the better Copperfield.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
It's a film I really enjoyed.
It's about a high school theater production where Jesus comes back but has to be cool and he time travels to save characters from Hamlet. Super well made (it's a movie with an actual musical at the end).
"Rock me, rock me, rock me sexy Jesus!":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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Holy shitballs who thought this was a good idea.
Just as taste of how shitty this idea is I present to you.
BIBLE MAN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV3thXw-pso
The Christians are acting as butthurt as the Muslims
I am sure this will matter more than censorship of right wing views.
Heroes die once, cowards live longer.
Makes up stories, claims to do AMAZING THINGS, lies about where he spent the weekend, then wants 10% of your income.
Offense culture inevitably leads to blasphemy culture and these are early signs of this phenomenon. If West ends up living in Theocracy, we can all thank SJWs for that.
I've seen hundreds of Mohammed cartoons since the Charlie Hebdo massacre. In general, publishing a Mohammed cartoon isn't a problem.
No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness.
--Sheikh Abd-Al-Kadir, 1587
Oh, the Christians might be upset about a trivialization of Jesus?
I thought they were worried the Aztecs would be upset of the representation of Nanahuatzin in a comic book. Boy, you sure don't want to piss off those Aztecs!
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
And who says we don't live in a theocracy...
They ditched when they saw it wasn't going to do well; otherwise, they'd pull crap like killing Superman just to sell some more tired old crap.
Hey, isn't Superman a SUN powered god? Didn't superman become a Jesus proxy? They didn't have the guts to use superman; it had to have crossed their mind.
As stupid as it sounds it could have been funny to see a make over Jesus in spandex and a cape multiplying food and being a preachy un-dead immortal trying to appeal to little boys -- who tend to resolve their emotions physically... in a comic book character fashion.
I sure hope somebody at South Park catches wind of this story! This could turn out so much better...
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Aren't the people getting bent out of shape about this the same people who go on and on about "free speech" when they have to demonize other religions?
"I'm a humble person really,
I'm actually much greater than I think I am"
That would be on the first few weeks. Later it would be a "fold here" like they used to have in Mad Magazine a gazillion years ago. (80-ies?)
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
Clearly you've never offended a Scientologist.
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How dare they concoct a ridiculous fictional character and use it like this? I'm outraged. Also, the other character Sun-Man deserves a better story line.
At least, that's what they told me in religion class.
Thus, those who call it blasphemy to show the Son of God taking a lesson from someone his Father created have told us that God wouldn't do that.
Like us in all things but sin; unlike us in $act; therefore $act is sinful.
I see their unspoken position--taking a lesson from you means I'm less than you; to show God as "less than" would be blasphemy.
For them, hubris is a virtue (they call it being "righteous")
In this case I can't fault them for hypocrisy; they are self-consistent here.
I dispute their fundamental premise--that letting someone teach you something makes you "less than".
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick
I think the religious fundamentalists and critics who are trying to stop Second Coming aren't interested in protecting Christ so much as their ability to control his narrative... They probably (correctly) suspect that it's not Christ who's being parodied, but themselves and how they've twisted his teachings of mercy for the powerless into a self-serving tool of the powerful. - Comic's Author Mark Russell
breath of fresh air that.
- js.
"News for Nerds, Stuff that matters" I seem to have heard that around here once upon a time. Stereotypical nerds are interested in comics.
On a different front, these guys probably didn't want the competition.
Tthe R. Crumb book of Genesis came too late for poor little Sheldon Cooper.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
And who says we don't live in a theocracy...
Is the government threatening DC with fines/jail time/threat of life if they publish it?
Is there any county, state, or federal law preventing DC from publishing it?
Is there any county, state, or federal law preventing retailers from selling it?
If DC were to publish it and retailers were to sell it, and people were to cause quantifiable harm to either of them as a result, would the government fail to arrest those who caused that harm?
No, no, no, and no. Therefore, I can conclude that we do not, in fact, live in a theocracy.
What we have is DC making a decision about what they want to publish. Exercising their right to the freedom of the press as they are choosing to not-publish something is basically the antithesis of what a theocratic government would do.
Whatever you do, don't show these petitioners a copy of Preacher. Their heads would explode.
On second thought, do. Do show them copies.
Happy people make bad consumers.
When reading the title i was expecting non religious people to be miffed by the intrusion of religious fanfiction in their stuff. Well, it was the other way around. But i know next to nothing to seperheroes and the public interested in them.
Isn't all sort of advert a good advert ? Coudln't they sell the comic surfing over a wave of comical christfags whining ? For the fun of it ?
So, he was here before?
Oy vey!
Have gnu, will travel.
If we don't extend permanent copyright protection to the bible and derived works, then its authors will retroactively lose all their incentive to have created the work.
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
Hey there Mr. 666, as an aside, did you know there was a Son of Satan comic? Marvel ran it in the mid-seventies.
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In the comic version, Thor is the hammer. Jesus is the nail.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
perhaps they could do a one pager where Sun-Man says 'look I am more popular than you', and Buddha replies 'Is that so?', smiles, and goes back to Nirvana.
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Jesus is the third rail of popular culture - you touch it and you die - as John Lennon famously discovered.
Hey, Windows users, there is no such thing as "forward" slash, there is only slash and backslash.
I say the community because the point keeps coming up: Christianity is just farther along than Islam.
The Bible really only has 1 punishment: Death. And several of the Commandments folks like to ignore make it so that images of God are a huge no-no. Historically the reason for this was to keep power concentrated with the priesthood (folks who know their history know that government & religion were often the same thing for a very long time).
This comes up when folks ask a YouTube skeptic "why so many videos on Christianity when Islam will kill you for drawing their prophet?". The answer is Christianity has a more immediate impact on their lives because of the countries they live in, and that they're more afraid of their country regressing back to the point where Christians have the same power to forcefully enact their will as many Muslims wield.
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This is literally Christians acting like Muslim fundamentalists...
Wait, did the studio receive multiple credible death threats after announcing it?
until zealots burn your house down.
https://comixjoint.com/jesusco...
"If you liked the New Testament, you'll love this new, improved testament"
Alternatively: Even the grave couldn't stop him - he's coming after you and he WANTS YOUR SOUL!
The SJWs (Super Jesus Warriors) strike again.
I can't believe they canceled a comic with such marketing potential.
If I were in charge of DC I would not only have NOT canceled this comic, I would have made a special edition cover with sun-man in gold foil, Jesus in silver foil, and in big letters proclaimed it to be the "Blasphemous Solarity Edition". Probably only 500k run at first just to be a bit safe, charging $20 a pop. You'd sell 100k copies just to the people who wanted to burn a copy on YouTube alone!
In fact that brings to mind ANOTHER brilliant idea, an even more limited edition that contained strontium nitrate particles embedded in the cover that would cause the whole thing to burn with a brilliant red flame! Those would go for $50 and would look AMAZING being burnt in disgust on YouTube, and you could save on production costs by not even printing the insides.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It's already been described in Dune.
Women breeders chained forever (like the latest Mad Max movie)... and they also made the most popular meat in the Empire. Crosbreed between slugs and swines if memory serves. Oh, and facedancers...
The characters are "Sun-Man" and "The Son of Man" *facepalm*
Hush. There's an agenda at foot.
it's about _control_. You want to be the exclusive source for comment and truth about your God so that folks have to get to God through _you_. Then you can charge them for the privilege.
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Probably, but those death threats were from good American Christians and thus probably not news worthy. Or were you under the impression that there aren't any religious nut jobs in the ranks of the Christian Fundamentalists.
Seriously, the publication was cancelled not because they received death threats, but because the Christian group promised to bring the death threats by making them a target. It was most definitely cancelled because they were afraid of violence from Christian nut jobs, not because they feared this group of people would continue not buying the comics that DC publishes, they even said as much near the end of the article.
Fanatically anti-fanatical
We do.
Just go outside and yell "the n word".
Just try to say you don't want to participate in someones wedding ceremony or do anything that says you condone their lifestyle.
Just try to say that people with a penis are boys, and people with a vagina are girls.
The theocracy is real.
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
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He comes from an Information Technology background, and presents some insight into the authenticity of the Bible that I had not seen in my 35+ years of study. He doesn't "preach", he just teaches according to what he has found over many decades of Bible study. Could be the best 24 hours you'll ever invest in anything in your life....
When the king heard the words of the Book of the Law he tore his robes.2Kings22:11
Depending GREATLY on what country you live in...
When the king heard the words of the Book of the Law he tore his robes.2Kings22:11
You got issues.
Have you seen him? A stiff wind and he's be airborne in a minute flat.
And if getting America to talk seriously about single payer healthcare in 2019 isn't a super power I don't know what is.
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Do we need any other reason than making fun of people who believe in things that aren't real? This is News For Nerds.
It's OK Bender, there's no such thing as 2.
Like I said, I was just curious... it seemed like a lot of posts were pointing in that direction when I commented, which is why I asked.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
go look up Specter. The don't call him "God", he's The Presence. So this is hardly a stretch.
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