Prequel Trailer #2. Get it.

Say it with me - P-R-O-P-R-I-E-T-A-R-Y by Mike+Hicks · 1999-03-10 22:05 · Score: 1

Can you say that? Good..

Does anyone use MP3 (the best (mostly) open audio format)? Yeah, but there are _tons_ of people that are scared shitless about it.. Almost all other audio encoding routines are proprietary or suck.

For video, there's MPEG-1 and MPEG-2.. I really don't know why that's not being used more often..

When a QT3 player gets released for Linux, I'll quiet down. Until then, this is STUPID.

Also, just because MPEG-4 is _going_ to use QT as a base _sometime_in_the_future_, doesn't mean that it's going to help me at all _today_...

If these pages ever load, I'm going to e-mail the system admins.. I'm pissed that the files are in QT3 format..

MPEG and MOV versions of starwars trailer by Mike+Hicks · 1999-03-10 23:35 · Score: 1

Umm.. With the MPEG version, what player does it work with? I couldn't get it to display correctly in xanim (all blocky and chunky 'n' stuff) -- I had to get mpegtv (which sucks, IMO.. SHAREWARE - eww..)

just curious..

Grrr, I can't see it!!! by Brett+Viren · 1999-03-11 22:55 · Score: 1

There is a command line player, mtvp, which comes with mtv. It is not crippled.

What makes it good? Mythological context. by dmd · 1999-03-11 04:11 · Score: 1

Joseph Campbell talks about George Lucas a bit in his books. They were good friends.
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YAMS (Yet Another Mirror Site) by drwiii · 1999-03-10 22:18 · Score: 1

Here's a temporary mirror (few days or until i need disk space :P) with MPEG and MOV.. have phun.

Wrong URL by CyberOptic · 1999-03-11 04:44 · Score: 1

Guess what....It IS the correct URL.

Another extremely wierd AC comment. by jandrese · 1999-03-10 21:43 · Score: 1

Ok, Dark City I can kind of see, but StarS#!+ Troopers!?! (a.k.a. Melrose place goes on a bug hunt).

And what do you know of Wing commander? What you see in the trailers? I don't know about you, but I think a movie needs to be released before it can be considered the "defining movie" of an era.

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Federation by maelstrom · 1999-03-11 05:45 · Score: 1

Did anyone catch the underwater scenes?! Looks pretty good!

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yet another mirror by DrSpoo · 1999-03-10 19:04 · Score: 1

ftp://24.93.133.50/pub/starwars/ Snag it here if the big mirrors all go down *grin*.

Enjoy!

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...bad idea... by DrSpoo · 1999-03-10 19:40 · Score: 1

Theres...too many...of them! Okay guys, only the first few people got a full download. Now I'm completely out of bandwidth and people are timing out. I suggest trying another mirror for the time being. Sorry :(

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get the mpeg version by DrSpoo · 1999-03-11 00:34 · Score: 1

Get the mpeg version, its much less taxing on your system and looks nearly as good.

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FINALLY!!! by gavinhall · 1999-03-10 17:34 · Score: 1

Posted by Forward The Light Brigade:

I wonder what it is about Star Wars that makes it so good....

ah who cares, it is, I am up before all the rest of you, can DL those files before the /. hordes take down the subnet...

A mirror by gavinhall · 1999-03-10 20:53 · Score: 1

Posted by Forward The Light Brigade:

I am willing to mirror the trailer on my comp,
a 10BaseT connection...

ftp://sparky.student.umd.edu/incoming

if someone uploads it, that dir is world readable, you all can download it .....

A mirror by gavinhall · 1999-03-10 21:03 · Score: 1

Posted by Forward The Light Brigade:

it is up
it is here

Gen X by gavinhall · 1999-03-13 01:54 · Score: 1

Posted by The [not so] Little Hacker:

Boy...glad I'm part of the Generation right after Gen X...proud to be a part of Generation Y!

for this and other fine movies..... by soren.harward · 1999-03-11 03:11 · Score: 1

... look no further than http://movies.soren.cinternet.net/.

Mirror by Kabby · 1999-03-11 00:00 · Score: 1

haven't had any problems with this mirror

Can someone convert this? by mangino · 1999-03-10 18:07 · Score: 1

If somebody can convert this to something usable on linux I can post it on a big mirror. Send me email.

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Another mirror by mangino · 1999-03-10 19:09 · Score: 1

Thanks, I'm getting 190k/sec In the next few minutes I'll post it to http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~ mangino/menacs_480.mov

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QuickTime "specs" already available by Chris+Hanson · 1999-03-11 12:16 · Score: 1

Yes, that's fine if I wanted to know how a quicktime file is structured, but it has no technical details or algorithms to reproduce the codecs. With this information, I could build a mean-ass QT file parser, but I wouldn't know how to decode the infomation contained in it. Those codecs are closly guarded corporate secrets. I'm sure that Qualcomm, Apple, Sorenson and other will let you look at them, if you gave them a few million bucks.. :-)

You can use the information in that and other publicly-available documents to start reimplementing the QuickTime API. Once you have the right portions of the QuickTime API reimplemented you can call Sorenson and Qualcomm and everyone else and say "Hey, wanna port your CODEC to Linux? It'll be simple if you already have it working with QuickTime!"

This does mean that a lot of CODECs would probably be distributed as closed-source shared libraries, but to me that's not a big deal at all. And all but the most unreasonable Open Source purists will prefer such a situation to having no advanced CODECs.

Really, I don't see why Sorenson or Qualcomm or Intel or anyone else would object to porting their CODEC if it wasn't too much work. (Particularly if Linux starts to gain significant desktop share.) But right now, there's no single solid multimedia target at all for Linux, so telling Sorenson that you want their CODEC on Linux would likely just garner you a confused look.

(Incidentally, this same issue applied to widget sets and window managers is likely holding up a lot of commercial application development. Commercial developers with Mac and Windows products don't want to decide which of { Qt, GTK, Athena, Motif, GNUstep, ... } to use for their product. We want a single API for building applications with graphical human interfaces, and we want all of those applications to look and behave the same. In other words, we want a solid target.)

Mirror by asmussen · 1999-03-10 20:33 · Score: 1

Wow, this site either has incredible bandwidth, or just hasn't got /.'d yet. I'm getting 100+K/sec download rates. I love my cablemodem.

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DSL download in San Francisco by ciurana · 1999-03-11 06:04 · Score: 1

Greetings!

I just wanted to let you know that you can now download the Star Wars: Episode I "The Phantom Menace" trailer from our FTP site.

Get the files from:

ftp://lavender.cime.net/pub/star_wars

Please read the readme.txt and readme.AOL.txt files for updates and instructions for download.

The latest trailer is much better than the first one, both in content and in video/audio quality. The trailer is in QuickTime version 3 format, widescreen. YOU MUST HAVE QUICK-TIME 3.0 to play it. I put a copy of the QuickTime installation program in case you want to download it from here as well. We also recommend that you use FTP instead of a browser because we're only allowing 128 simultaneous HTTP connections due to the demand we experienced already. Go to http://www.countingdown.com for other HTTP download sites. Besides, FTP is more reliable. We strongly suggest using the WS_FTP client. If you manage to get an HTTP connection, download WS_FTP from the same directory where the trailer is, then download the trailer with WS_FTP.

Take care, and talk to you later!

Eugene

CIME Software Labs, LLC

http://cime.net

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Mirror by KrON · 1999-03-10 20:19 · Score: 1

ftp://pong.csh.rit.edu/pub/starwars/ has it :)

Re: stuff by KrON · 1999-03-11 00:18 · Score: 1

So far bout 7 gigs worth of movie has been moved
off the one machine since 9 am and i havnt had any complaints.. My friends were able to watch it fine (i didn't watch it myself because i dont run windows) but if anyone who has any probs feel free to mail me..

p.s. tahoes rox :)
p.p.s if ya need me you can find me on EFnet

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Why not CinePak? by Malichus · 1999-03-11 09:27 · Score: 1

What's wrong with older versions of Quicktime (e.g., the Cinepak CODEC) that played fine on a low-end Pentium or less, running Unix, Linux, Win3.*, Win9*, WinNT, or MacOS? Why pick a newer version of Quicktime that only works on two OSes?

Because CinePak blows goats. Hard. Really hard.

Sorenson Video acheives comparable quality with about a tenth of the bandwidth. A CinePak movie that looks as good as a Sorenson Video with a moderate data rate requires a data rate about as high as the actual decompressed video does.

On the upside, CinePak compresses well with our lossless compression and archival formats (.sit, .zip, .tar.gz, .bz, etc.).

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Quicktime documentation by Malichus · 1999-03-11 09:44 · Score: 1

I don't feel like finding the specific article to reply to, but someone complains about QuickTime not being documented in this thread. Nothing could be further from the truth; there are thousands of pages of documentation.

http://deve loper.apple.com/techpubs/quicktime/qtdevdocs/RM/fr ameset.htm

However, no, the modern codecs are not documented there. Those are proprietary software that Apple licensed from Sorenson (Sorenson Video), Intel (Indeo), QDesign (QDesign Music), Qualcomm (PureVoice), and Roland (GS MIDI).

Anyone hoping to make a QuickTime player not supported by Apple that would play those modern codecs would have to negotiate licenses with those companies.

And, yes, they would sue if you reverse engineered the formats.

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Mirror by tgd · 1999-03-10 21:52 · Score: 1

Uuuhhhh... that's all I needed, a reminder of CSH -- just enough to trigger a craving for a Nicks plate... damn seven hour drives.

*grumble*

Tahoe by tgd · 1999-03-10 22:19 · Score: 1

I asked them about fedex overnight once... they looked at me like I was smokin' crack.

But you're right, 24 hours is too long. (Although a mistimed nicks run during a blizard turned a 6 1/2 hour each way nicks run with far too many people jammed into my car into a 20 hour roundtrip fiasco a few years ago... but I got my plate...)

Tahoe by tgd · 1999-03-10 22:20 · Score: 1

There's a good slashdot question:

"Nicks?"

1) Yes
2) No
3) Huh?

:)

Nick Tahoe - Vote 1 YES by tgd · 1999-03-11 02:21 · Score: 1

I thought they closed the downtown one entirely... As long as one is open, I don't even care. :)

Aw man, now I really want one. *grrr* Too bad I'm goin snowboarding this weekend or a road trip would be in order. :)

I ran into someone in switzerland once who knew what Nicks was though -- you you never know. And anyone who doesn't know, should know. Stack of nicks plates, big bottle of Devils Springs, pile of misidentified DEC boards... its the makings of... um... well the old jake and elwood actually.

Ah the good ol' days...

Argggh! by aheitner · 1999-03-10 18:26 · Score: 1

Up at 7:10 am and the frikkin fileserver "206.251.0.167" is /.'d! It responds to pings, and there's a service listning on port 80. but I can't get _anywhere_ with it.

If someone can tell me where/how to get a copy I can mirror it 10mbit...

No, actually by aheitner · 1999-03-10 18:41 · Score: 1

I'm here in Pittsburgh :)

I got it from countingdown.com at ~500 kps (not kilobit) and am about to post a mirror.

Another mirror by aheitner · 1999-03-10 18:43 · Score: 1

ftp://templestowe.res.cmu.edu/pub/swtrailer/menace _480.mov

Pittsburgh, 10mbit.

I'm not dead yet! by aheitner · 1999-03-10 19:10 · Score: 1

"You soon will be"
"I feel fine!"
"You're not fooling anyone!"

hehehe.

Seriously folks I am getting 50 kps internally here. I should be okay for a while. CMU has a better cnnection than this but I only get 10mit to the dorms....

I think by aheitner · 1999-03-10 20:35 · Score: 1

That you're the minority of 1 in this.

Everybody on the frikkin _planet_ will want to see the trailer. That's why Lucas can make so bloody much money with these films. If it was only a couple of hundred dweebs, he'd be a poor man.

Yet another mirror by Avenger · 1999-03-10 20:08 · Score: 1

A big Thankyou goes out to you who ever you are at RIT. Me and my friends at "The big X" thank you. Oh yeah and I love your tag line at the end.