I beg to differ, its just that games require a different set of finely honed skills in order to succeed.
Reaction speed is critical, as is trajectory prediction. An awareness bordering on 6th doesn't hurt either.
Calculation, prediction, and physical twitch are essential, as is the ability to rapidly assimilate and react to changing data.
I have more respect for a hardcore gamer than I do ANY baseball player because honestly, baseball strikes me as being such a low skill sport its not even funny. but thats just me.
Actually, you could nerve staple your population, but it counts as an atrocity....
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Actually, the disconnect between vampires and werewolves has been explored before...I remember an episode of Ghostbusters (the cartoon based on the movie characters) that explored a similar theme.
White Wolf does not have a monopoly on the supernatural.
Besides, the enimies in the two games were different...Vampires were mostly against themselves, and Werewolves were warriors of gaia fighting against its corruption.
I guess we'll have to see how the plot shakes out...
Actually, I had a similar situation....Verizon want a 75$ advance on the first bill and a 50$ deposit that they would keep for a year and NOT automatically send it back to me at the end of that year. When I asked about this, the rep said it was 'a state law', which immediately set off red flags. I let the rep set up the order, and proceeded to ask my friends and coworkers if they ever heard anything like this. Of course no one had, so a few days later, I ordered service through thier website and called to confirm the order with a different rep. Everything was set to go, with no deposit or advance required.
The moral of this story is that while these companies are huge and monolithic, there is also the weak underside of beauracracy and miscommunication that we can take advantage of.
This doesn't excuse such behavior on the part of Verizon, however.
Sorry, gotta disagree here, and the reason why are the weapon limitations. I mean, it just gets friggin BORING watching two wedge designs trying to flip each other. Start allowing team melees, projectile weapons, acid/flamethrower weaps and small explosives and lets see what happens.
I had a bot design in mind that involved launching drone bots forcible at the opponents with two swinging axe arms. it would get demolished by a little wedge, but whats more exciting - a 'mothership' bot with 4 ramming/piercer drones that launch forcibly with swinging axes or a little wedge with a lot of torque?
Very interesting that Pittsburgh is actually dong something like this...however, a few points...
1) No one actually -lives- in downtown Pittsburgh
2) The average age of Pittsburgh citizens is higher than that of florida
3) Aside from CMU and Pittsburgh's own efforts to be billed as 'the next silicon valley' and aggressive advertising campaigns extolling the virtues of Pittsburgh, it is still experiencing negative population growth
4) There just aren't any jobs there!
now, some wise ass is gonna ask for links to this info, to which I say:
Don't have 'em. Only lived there for 4 years and spent more time unemployed than employed. fortunately, the future is brighter in the DC metro area.
Funker Vogt, Club Laga, Pittsburgh - $15.00 Siouxsie and the Banshees, Nations, DC - $20.00 VnV Nation and Haujobb, Nations, DC - $18.00 KMFDM, 9:30 Club, DC - $22.00
You're just listenening to the wrong (RIAA backed) music, so don't whine if they are gouging you:)
Personally, I think DIY MMOGs are the way to go...basically you release a toolset that allows someone to make thier own world with a pre-existing framework of rules...then you can turn the players loose in them.
It's not massive, but it is multiplayer...and people can restrict access to thier worlds as they see fit...ending the days of l337 camper and catass man.
Oh yeah..that's Neverwinter Nights, and its coming out in June...
I think the MMOG 'industry' is about to get a nasty surprise.
Well, and I don't know how well this fits in the entire alien universe, but it was discovered during one of the comic series that Dark Horse Comics put out that the 'Alien' as we know it is actually a biological terraforming device for yet another alien race.
Some of the evidence in the movies also points toward this possibility, notably where they found them in the first place (i.e. the wrecked alien ship with allthose eggs in the hold.)
In Alien, what they thought was a distress signal was actually a warning that they didn't translate until it was too late. I think, unless i'm mixing up Alien with Event Horizon again.
Well, the solution to this problem is actually quite simple:
DONT MAKE THE FREAKING GAME SO HARD OR TEDIOUS THAT IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO JUST PURCHASE THE ITEM/CHARACTER INSTEAD OF GETTING IT YOURSELF!
Honestly! If you make a leveling treadmill where item spawns are few and far between, thier scarcity gives them real world value. After looking at how long it took me to get to lvl 40 in everquest (7 months of hardcore play) I would much rather pay 600 dollars for a 40th lvl character with decent gear than play through the tedium and hell levels. That, to me, incdicates a broken game.
Of course, the Devs don't get this. UO was the greatest game of this genre ever made, simply because it wasn't a leveling treadmill (per se).
You would think so, but that is just not the case.
I cant think of any examples offhand, but I assure you, that 10.00/month isn't keeping ANYONE out.
I say this as a UO/EQ/AO/DAOC veteran, too.
Personally, I've given up on MMOGs merely because they take too much freaking time and the fact that these are games, not worlds. The only exception to the previous statement is ultima online, which has probably come closest to gaming goodness in the whole genre, yet everyone seems to be following EQ in design and function.
And don't quote sales statistics at me like they mean anything. People buy crap all the time, but just because a lot of people buy it doesn't mean its not crap.
I think we may be surprised when Neverwinter Nights comes out, it may change the landscape of MMOG gaming. Why play with boned3wd and plated3wd if you don't have to? kick em out and keep em out! The players regain control of thier player environment.
oooo, you make me wish I had mod points! excellent point!
I remember hearing the exact same thing when I was in college, but I figured that if the company was going to be swayed by some pretty paper, it probably wasn't somewhere I wanted to work.
Actually, The concepts set forth in neuromancer (which, in the copy I have, shows the earliest publishing date as 1984) were first introduced in his short story works, notably "Johnny Mnemonic" and "Burning Chrome", of which at least one was published in 1978 or 79. I cant find my copy of that particular collection, unfortunately, but I'm fairly certain that is the case.
Besides, the concepts set forth in Tron weren't exactly what we would call cyberspace...it was really just a personification of all those 0s and 1s (main character aside).
Well, for starters there's neuromancer by William Gibson, where he describes the Net as 'a concensual hallucination'. Only difference is, you can jack in directly to the net. Interesting social development too, as well as multinational corps, law enforcement, etc. that deal with advancing computer/AI technology.
In a similar vien, you can check out the Cyberpunk 2020 role-playing game books. Aside from cybernetic implants (and lots of em) there are also items/ides involving biological manipulation/modification (natural gills, tails, claws, etc.), Full cybernetic body replacement where the brain and a few organs are transplanted into a mechanical body, as well as small scale mecha/exoskeltal suits.
Starship troopers makes some mention of power armor, but warhammer 40k may be a better source...Starship Troopers had a more sociologic focus.
Hell, that's all I can think of off the top of my head...good luck!
That, or your totally off your rocker. Either way, you scare me. Could you please stop, for the children?
PS - next time, use Everquest in your example...its more believable in the 'addiction' role.
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just as a point:
Airport security has -nothing- to do with our civil liberties.
If you don't want to submit to a body cavity search to get on the plane, fine! Take the greyhound bus instead!
Private security measures are seperate from gov't security measures. Get that through your thick skull before you start advocating further erosion of citizen rights.
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God damn it, I just got my gamecube!
Same damn thing happened when I bought the dreamcast...
I beg to differ, its just that games require a different set of finely honed skills in order to succeed.
Reaction speed is critical, as is trajectory prediction. An awareness bordering on 6th doesn't hurt either.
Calculation, prediction, and physical twitch are essential, as is the ability to rapidly assimilate and react to changing data.
I have more respect for a hardcore gamer than I do ANY baseball player because honestly, baseball strikes me as being such a low skill sport its not even funny. but thats just me.
Actually, you could nerve staple your population, but it counts as an atrocity....
Actually, the disconnect between vampires and werewolves has been explored before...I remember an episode of Ghostbusters (the cartoon based on the movie characters) that explored a similar theme.
White Wolf does not have a monopoly on the supernatural.
Besides, the enimies in the two games were different...Vampires were mostly against themselves, and Werewolves were warriors of gaia fighting against its corruption.
I guess we'll have to see how the plot shakes out...
christ, ever see SMS? Patching the OS on 10k MS machines is easy...patching office is a PITA...
man, you guys...
whew! I read about it earlier at penny arcade...even thought of submitting this one.
Glad its just a joke, though considering how the world is, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if this was real.
Actually, I had a similar situation....Verizon want a 75$ advance on the first bill and a 50$ deposit that they would keep for a year and NOT automatically send it back to me at the end of that year. When I asked about this, the rep said it was 'a state law', which immediately set off red flags.
I let the rep set up the order, and proceeded to ask my friends and coworkers if they ever heard anything like this. Of course no one had, so a few days later, I ordered service through thier website and called to confirm the order with a different rep. Everything was set to go, with no deposit or advance required.
The moral of this story is that while these companies are huge and monolithic, there is also the weak underside of beauracracy and miscommunication that we can take advantage of.
This doesn't excuse such behavior on the part of Verizon, however.
Sorry, gotta disagree here, and the reason why are the weapon limitations.
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I mean, it just gets friggin BORING watching two wedge designs trying to flip each other. Start allowing team melees, projectile weapons, acid/flamethrower weaps and small explosives and lets see what happens.
I had a bot design in mind that involved launching drone bots forcible at the opponents with two swinging axe arms. it would get demolished by a little wedge, but whats more exciting - a 'mothership' bot with 4 ramming/piercer drones that launch forcibly with swinging axes or a little wedge with a lot of torque?
That's what I thought
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get it while its hot! you too can be a PR teacher from algeria making less than 20k!
I just went out and took a spin on kazaa lite to check out just what was out there...
:)
Man! stock reports, semester schedules, scads of phone lists...phone extension lists...business documents...
Wow! I'm gonna have to call the GF tommorrow and run some tests just to be absolutely sure and run the same tests on her sharing connections.
This is so neat
Very interesting that Pittsburgh is actually dong something like this...however, a few points...
1) No one actually -lives- in downtown Pittsburgh
2) The average age of Pittsburgh citizens is higher than that of florida
3) Aside from CMU and Pittsburgh's own efforts to be billed as 'the next silicon valley' and aggressive advertising campaigns extolling the virtues of Pittsburgh, it is still experiencing negative population growth
4) There just aren't any jobs there!
now, some wise ass is gonna ask for links to this info, to which I say:
Don't have 'em. Only lived there for 4 years and spent more time unemployed than employed. fortunately, the future is brighter in the DC metro area.
Sure, if you want to see crap....
:)
Compare with this:
Funker Vogt, Club Laga, Pittsburgh - $15.00
Siouxsie and the Banshees, Nations, DC - $20.00
VnV Nation and Haujobb, Nations, DC - $18.00
KMFDM, 9:30 Club, DC - $22.00
You're just listenening to the wrong (RIAA backed) music, so don't whine if they are gouging you
Actually, not all of clear channel's stations sound exactly the same...
I'm not advocating them or anything, but the alternative station in DC is MUCH better than the one in Pittsburgh.
Of course, neither of them play anything I really want to listen to, just stuff that doesn't make me want to switch the station in the car.
Personally, I think DIY MMOGs are the way to go...basically you release a toolset that allows someone to make thier own world with a pre-existing framework of rules...then you can turn the players loose in them.
It's not massive, but it is multiplayer...and people can restrict access to thier worlds as they see fit...ending the days of l337 camper and catass man.
Oh yeah..that's Neverwinter Nights, and its coming out in June...
I think the MMOG 'industry' is about to get a nasty surprise.
Well, and I don't know how well this fits in the entire alien universe, but it was discovered during one of the comic series that Dark Horse Comics put out that the 'Alien' as we know it is actually a biological terraforming device for yet another alien race.
Some of the evidence in the movies also points toward this possibility, notably where they found them in the first place (i.e. the wrecked alien ship with allthose eggs in the hold.)
In Alien, what they thought was a distress signal was actually a warning that they didn't translate until it was too late. I think, unless i'm mixing up Alien with Event Horizon again.
OK, I just stopped feeling bad about downloading TV programs of the net.
Yer not gonna use -my- money to buy/sell your ridiculous laws!
Well, the solution to this problem is actually quite simple:
DONT MAKE THE FREAKING GAME SO HARD OR TEDIOUS THAT IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO JUST PURCHASE THE ITEM/CHARACTER INSTEAD OF GETTING IT YOURSELF!
Honestly! If you make a leveling treadmill where item spawns are few and far between, thier scarcity gives them real world value. After looking at how long it took me to get to lvl 40 in everquest (7 months of hardcore play) I would much rather pay 600 dollars for a 40th lvl character with decent gear than play through the tedium and hell levels. That, to me, incdicates a broken game.
Of course, the Devs don't get this. UO was the greatest game of this genre ever made, simply because it wasn't a leveling treadmill (per se).
Too bad everyone's copying everquest. Phaugh.
You would think so, but that is just not the case.
I cant think of any examples offhand, but I assure you, that 10.00/month isn't keeping ANYONE out.
I say this as a UO/EQ/AO/DAOC veteran, too.
Personally, I've given up on MMOGs merely because they take too much freaking time and the fact that these are games, not worlds. The only exception to the previous statement is ultima online, which has probably come closest to gaming goodness in the whole genre, yet everyone seems to be following EQ in design and function.
And don't quote sales statistics at me like they mean anything. People buy crap all the time, but just because a lot of people buy it doesn't mean its not crap.
I think we may be surprised when Neverwinter Nights comes out, it may change the landscape of MMOG gaming. Why play with boned3wd and plated3wd if you don't have to? kick em out and keep em out! The players regain control of thier player environment.
oooo, you make me wish I had mod points! excellent point!
I remember hearing the exact same thing when I was in college, but I figured that if the company was going to be swayed by some pretty paper, it probably wasn't somewhere I wanted to work.
Actually, The concepts set forth in neuromancer (which, in the copy I have, shows the earliest publishing date as 1984) were first introduced in his short story works, notably "Johnny Mnemonic" and "Burning Chrome", of which at least one was published in 1978 or 79. I cant find my copy of that particular collection, unfortunately, but I'm fairly certain that is the case.
Besides, the concepts set forth in Tron weren't exactly what we would call cyberspace...it was really just a personification of all those 0s and 1s (main character aside).
Thanks for the link to thier channel listing.
Unfortunately, they don't have any channels for the music I listen to, so I will have to stick with MP3 and mix tapes/CDs
No industrial, no gothic, no deal. I'm not gonna pay for more music I don't listen to.
Well, for starters there's neuromancer by William Gibson, where he describes the Net as 'a concensual hallucination'. Only difference is, you can jack in directly to the net. Interesting social development too, as well as multinational corps, law enforcement, etc. that deal with advancing computer/AI technology.
In a similar vien, you can check out the Cyberpunk 2020 role-playing game books. Aside from cybernetic implants (and lots of em) there are also items/ides involving biological manipulation/modification (natural gills, tails, claws, etc.), Full cybernetic body replacement where the brain and a few organs are transplanted into a mechanical body, as well as small scale mecha/exoskeltal suits.
Starship troopers makes some mention of power armor, but warhammer 40k may be a better source...Starship Troopers had a more sociologic focus.
Hell, that's all I can think of off the top of my head...good luck!
yeah you can.
'course, best I can do is 40 - 50% of thier prices, but still, it can be done.
Wow, nice troll.
That, or your totally off your rocker. Either way, you scare me. Could you please stop, for the children?
PS - next time, use Everquest in your example...its more believable in the 'addiction' role.
just as a point:
Airport security has -nothing- to do with our civil liberties.
If you don't want to submit to a body cavity search to get on the plane, fine! Take the greyhound bus instead!
Private security measures are seperate from gov't security measures. Get that through your thick skull before you start advocating further erosion of citizen rights.