Yeah, Google sells there phones everywhere. (Hint: they don't. I can't get a Google phone if I wanted). Google may support their phones a longer time, but other manufacturers don't. Even in the premium segment.
Besides, you talk about 2 years for a Pixel... I talk about over 4 years supported. So, liar? More like realistic vision on longevity of devices.
It's not a premium smartphone, if you don't get updates... So, let me fix that for you: cheaper smartphones. That's it, explains it all...
Even Google and Samsung suck at keeping updates going for longer than six months, which is why the user who expects longevity and supports shells out for Apple. Sad to say, but I expect my smartphones to last four years. Two, new as my wifes phone on a subsidized contract (with flat everything), and then two more years as a hand-me-down for me with a much cheaper plan.
It's not a separate country. It's a region of Belgium and Belgium has a very complicated federal system. In many cases, Belgium can only sign contracts, if all regions agree to said contract.
You have to do that regardless, every few years, when you get a new card. I use a Web-only Mastercard. It used to be valid for one year. (They seem to have changed it, it's now valid for two years). I have no problem doing that. Usually, I just bother updating the card when a system tells me that my current card stored isn't valid any more. It grows organically over time.
I wonder if when people move to 2 year or 3 year cycles with phones
Wait, what? People change phone more often than once per two years. Most people I know, keep them for about two years or longer.
I basically live on the hand-me-down phones from my wife. Why? Because she gets the "everything included" plan which comes with an iPhone (and when we renew each two year, we get a new iPhone). She gets the "everything included" plan because that way she doesn't have to think about anything when using it (Am I on wireless? How much volume do I still have this month? Roaming? Those kind of questions that are hard for non-tech users). When she gets a new phone, I get her two year old phone and continue to use that on my cheap-ass-phoneless-plan. At this point, I am using a iPhone 5 (just the number) and it works fine. I'm even pondering continuing on using it until Apple stops support, because I'm not keen on getting the bigger iPhone 6 (just the number) my wife currently uses. Refresh is in March next year.
Phones already have a long longevity... I do admit, I went to Mr Minit to get a new battery for the iPhone 5. Cost me something like 50€ and that was worth it.
Read again, they refused to make security patches for certain flaws because "it was deemed too much work". That is not "receiving security patches until EOL".
Given the iMac was released in 1998, and the lightning connector in 2012 (4 years ago), the correct question would be: "How many USB Mice were there in 2002?" and the answer to that is: quite a few! Windows XP came out in 2001, and I distinctly remember new computers being delivered with USB mice and USB keyboards. For the record, USB 2.0 was released in 2000, and it's really with USB 2.0, that USB took off.
More people need to be made aware of VueScan. Cross platform, acceptable price, unbeatable scanner support. My father has a SCSI Minolta Dimage with APS support. Drivers up to Windows 2000, XP worked with a bit of hacking. SANE doesn't want to know about it.
VueScan? Just works.
I have no stake in this. I am just a happy customer.
It's been a while since I did any Java programming. Actually, it's been over 7 years, but that does mean I was around the 1.5 days. I was one of the few who used Linux, and boy did I find bugs due to assumptions that you shouldn't make when working on cross platform applications. At typical one was using a hardcoded "\" as a path separator instead of the System.getProperty("file.separator") value.
Maybe the underlying libraries now catch these things, but back in the day it didn't. Even with Java, writing platform independent code does require some care.
Well, I was clearly looking at it from my consumer end view.
For corporations this changes any way: 5 year old gear is amortized and should be replaced, just because the beancounters say so.
However, I doubt you can totally offset the energy savings by purchasing new gear. Assume 500$ for a new machine (Business machines? Hell, you won't get them that cheap, but I'll run with it). I don't know how much my i7 rates, but I know it comes with a 90W powersupply. As such we can assume it uses that as a maximum. Assume a new i5 laptop will use half of that: 45W. So, you save 45W, which means you save 45*24*365 Wh = 394.2kWh over year. Let's assume you live in New York, which means you pay 18.1 cents per kWh (okay, values are from late 2011), which means you pay about 71$ less per year by the replacement. Assuming the 500$ investment, you need 7 years to break even. This is true regardless of scale (1 computer or 10000 computers)
So, yes, energy is a factor, but if it were the only factor, it wouldn't be cost effective. Do, also note that in every assumption I was very very friendly with the "replace" argument: cheap replacement cost, expensive electricity....
Of course, I might have miscalculated and you're right... who knows....
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Anything but a full blown holodeck isn't going to appeal to the masses.
Besides, you talk about 2 years for a Pixel... I talk about over 4 years supported. So, liar? More like realistic vision on longevity of devices.
It's not a premium smartphone, if you don't get updates... So, let me fix that for you: cheaper smartphones. That's it, explains it all...
Even Google and Samsung suck at keeping updates going for longer than six months, which is why the user who expects longevity and supports shells out for Apple. Sad to say, but I expect my smartphones to last four years. Two, new as my wifes phone on a subsidized contract (with flat everything), and then two more years as a hand-me-down for me with a much cheaper plan.
OpenVPN port tcp/443. How are you going to stop that? I have one of those for... reasons, I keep bandwidth usage low to avoid volume based detectors.
Glad to hear all my surfing won't be counted towards my cellphone download limits then...
Last job, we tended to run a youporn video fullscreen on unlocked machines.
Unless downloading means something else to marketing people than it means to me...
No 5S, no 5S => No 5C, no 5S
It's not a separate country. It's a region of Belgium and Belgium has a very complicated federal system. In many cases, Belgium can only sign contracts, if all regions agree to said contract.
Source? That would be very surprising..
The engines are good. Try Tesseract some day. There are others. It's the GUIs that are horrible.
You have to do that regardless, every few years, when you get a new card. I use a Web-only Mastercard. It used to be valid for one year. (They seem to have changed it, it's now valid for two years). I have no problem doing that. Usually, I just bother updating the card when a system tells me that my current card stored isn't valid any more. It grows organically over time.
Wait, what? People change phone more often than once per two years. Most people I know, keep them for about two years or longer.
I basically live on the hand-me-down phones from my wife. Why? Because she gets the "everything included" plan which comes with an iPhone (and when we renew each two year, we get a new iPhone). She gets the "everything included" plan because that way she doesn't have to think about anything when using it (Am I on wireless? How much volume do I still have this month? Roaming? Those kind of questions that are hard for non-tech users).
When she gets a new phone, I get her two year old phone and continue to use that on my cheap-ass-phoneless-plan. At this point, I am using a iPhone 5 (just the number) and it works fine. I'm even pondering continuing on using it until Apple stops support, because I'm not keen on getting the bigger iPhone 6 (just the number) my wife currently uses. Refresh is in March next year.
Phones already have a long longevity... I do admit, I went to Mr Minit to get a new battery for the iPhone 5. Cost me something like 50€ and that was worth it.
Yahoo? Before Google, there was AltaVista. Yahoo was a rather lame index.
Read again, they refused to make security patches for certain flaws because "it was deemed too much work". That is not "receiving security patches until EOL".
You'd think so, but in reality, that's not quite true: Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000, both stopped getting security patches before their EOL.
Really? You might even be able to run them in your browser...
Given the iMac was released in 1998, and the lightning connector in 2012 (4 years ago), the correct question would be: "How many USB Mice were there in 2002?" and the answer to that is: quite a few! Windows XP came out in 2001, and I distinctly remember new computers being delivered with USB mice and USB keyboards. For the record, USB 2.0 was released in 2000, and it's really with USB 2.0, that USB took off.
I'd suggest, that you make a disk image about once a month for easy rollback in case of catastrophic breakage.
VueScan? Just works.
I have no stake in this. I am just a happy customer.
... on battery life, mostly ;-)
It's not suicide, if they didn't have a choice.
Maybe the underlying libraries now catch these things, but back in the day it didn't. Even with Java, writing platform independent code does require some care.
Wrong, you only install Linux and tell it to overwrite what's there. FORMAT C: is totally redundant.
For corporations this changes any way: 5 year old gear is amortized and should be replaced, just because the beancounters say so.
However, I doubt you can totally offset the energy savings by purchasing new gear. Assume 500$ for a new machine (Business machines? Hell, you won't get them that cheap, but I'll run with it). I don't know how much my i7 rates, but I know it comes with a 90W powersupply. As such we can assume it uses that as a maximum. Assume a new i5 laptop will use half of that: 45W. So, you save 45W, which means you save 45*24*365 Wh = 394.2kWh over year. Let's assume you live in New York, which means you pay 18.1 cents per kWh (okay, values are from late 2011), which means you pay about 71$ less per year by the replacement. Assuming the 500$ investment, you need 7 years to break even. This is true regardless of scale (1 computer or 10000 computers)
So, yes, energy is a factor, but if it were the only factor, it wouldn't be cost effective. Do, also note that in every assumption I was very very friendly with the "replace" argument: cheap replacement cost, expensive electricity....
Of course, I might have miscalculated and you're right... who knows....