I agree this analogy doesn't really hold here. If anything, it appears that the OP's users were already crippled butterflies (no way to fly and all). Spending some (minimal) instruction time with guidance to places to learn more will save yourself time (and eye-gouging?) in the long run. Nadaka's point about saplings is also true.
You had me reading what I thought was a decent post until this:
If you take an iPod you want everyone accepts that as stealing but if you download a movie or song you want hey it's just 1s and 0s. No harm no foul. It's this perception that has changed. Unfortunately content takes money to produce just like iPods so it will affect what's out there.
I'm not going restate the argument that has been stated much better by others before me that copyright infringement stealing. It's just a fact. They are both currently illegal, but the legality of copyright infringement is certainly more difficult to assess from a layman's perspective. The issue you're trying to get at is lost sales, but that is a wacky area of economics to prove. Certainly even you (who seems to be very pro-copyright) can't believe what the **AA throws around as actual numbers.
Without studying the forces involved, the reality for the average citizen is: 1) Copyright is complicated and oppressive 2) Stealing is clearly wrong, but associating copyright infringement with car theft or mugging is ridiculous and serves to do nothing but insult the common man. 3) Works are made to be economically viable to support the creator while they are alive not to establish a family inherited revenue stream for future generations. 4) There are few if any good points to be made for the use of copyright in prosecution, DCMA, and extension of rights (Copyright will be extended to be as long as it needs to be to keep Mickey a cash cow) 5) Less and less is being made available to the citizenry as public domain while we pay an increasing cost for things we can't actually own - DRMed music and video.
Can some pro-copyright poster comment of the above and educate us on why those aren't valid observations?
The reports i saw gave the impression that the US simply refused to let the prostitution use the evidence the first time (but the evidence had already been collected).
Wow, I'd think they'd want the prostitution more involved!
A similar game that I enjoyed in my youth that was labeled as "educational" but played as a normal fun game was BannerCatch. A simplistic description:
Bannercatch is a five-level partnership game of strategy and skill. You and your partner compete on a 64sector playing field against a character named Max. The object of the game is to capture Max's flag with your robots and carry it back to your part of the playing field. Your side has four joystick-controlled, "humanoid" robots. Max also has four robots.
The game is quite involved and comes with a number of items including a detailed instruction manual, a reference card, a secret document marked "for robots only," a colorful bannercatch poster, bannercatch stickers, and playing field map.
The playfield is huge. Only a portion of each of the 64-sectors of the playfield is visible on the screen at once. The screen is split so each partner can view a different part of the field. To keep track of your location, you have to note the sector number you're in and then refer to the playing field map.
Defeating Max and his robots isn't easy. To do it you have to work with your partner and learn how to intercept and decode the secret messages he sends to his robots. That's where an added bonus comes in. Max and his robots communicate in binary code. By playing the game you learn to read binary numbers, an important skill to have if you're interested in computer programming.
Besides defeating Max, another goal is revealing his mysterious face. Each time you win a game, a bit more of Max's face will appear. A special sheet is provided so you can gradually sketch in his face as you win more and more games.
Interesting sound effects occur when you accidentally bump into something or when you cross the river dividing the playing field. Lively, well-written music helps announce the winner of each game. The action can be quite exciting as you try to elude Max's robots or chase them when they steal your flag. Careful though! I almost broke a joystick running from Tor, one of Max's robots.
I mean I couldn't make it past this gem:
The study also describes the first complete skull of a giant penguin, which provided a tantalizing glimpse into ancient penguin lifestyle. That's almost sig worthy.
Although not originally released for the Amiga, his game was one of the most influential I can think of. It was a little unexplored genre with you controlling the pinball directly (or marble in this case). Similar to the monkey balls of today, but way before their time.
It hasn't happened since, even with possibly more hours logged in WoW, but I used to recreate the battles in War2 over and over again in my dreams. It was horrible, not because of the content, but because of the endless repitition. Like Groundhog Day, but with nothing I could change!
I think this was because of the challenge of the game. Your save game point would be at a certain place where you might have a very difficult time micromanaging all the tasks you had to do to win. RPGs have a more varied challenge and I think that the repetition is what triggered my brain to go a bit crazy.
My guess is that is was trying to get money out of Kiwi publishing for their (excellent) paper collection of the 1st year. It is rather a shame that no more books have been discussed and I'm betting that the publisher screwing them over has something to do with it.
Features from the article: Wide screen with pen input Handwriting recognition HTML browser supports Flash 6 Up to 90 MB internal memory, 128 MB MMC card
**** Megapixel camera (1152x864 pixels)
Music player with stereo audio Audio and video playback and streaming FM/Visual Radio
Slashdot Mirror
Should be a good year for the Darwin Awards.
It's also buggy.
I agree this analogy doesn't really hold here. If anything, it appears that the OP's users were already crippled butterflies (no way to fly and all). Spending some (minimal) instruction time with guidance to places to learn more will save yourself time (and eye-gouging?) in the long run. Nadaka's point about saplings is also true.
Great, now I have "Isle Thing" stuck in my head. I know it's not nuclear, but still...coconuts.
I like the professor
He always saves their butts
He could build a nuclear reactor
From a couple of coconuts
You had me reading what I thought was a decent post until this:
If you take an iPod you want everyone accepts that as stealing but if you download a movie or song you want hey it's just 1s and 0s. No harm no foul. It's this perception that has changed. Unfortunately content takes money to produce just like iPods so it will affect what's out there.
I'm not going restate the argument that has been stated much better by others before me that copyright infringement stealing. It's just a fact. They are both currently illegal, but the legality of copyright infringement is certainly more difficult to assess from a layman's perspective. The issue you're trying to get at is lost sales, but that is a wacky area of economics to prove. Certainly even you (who seems to be very pro-copyright) can't believe what the **AA throws around as actual numbers.
Without studying the forces involved, the reality for the average citizen is:
1) Copyright is complicated and oppressive
2) Stealing is clearly wrong, but associating copyright infringement with car theft or mugging is ridiculous and serves to do nothing but insult the common man.
3) Works are made to be economically viable to support the creator while they are alive not to establish a family inherited revenue stream for future generations.
4) There are few if any good points to be made for the use of copyright in prosecution, DCMA, and extension of rights (Copyright will be extended to be as long as it needs to be to keep Mickey a cash cow)
5) Less and less is being made available to the citizenry as public domain while we pay an increasing cost for things we can't actually own - DRMed music and video.
Can some pro-copyright poster comment of the above and educate us on why those aren't valid observations?
The reports i saw gave the impression that the US simply refused to let the prostitution use the evidence the first time (but the evidence had already been collected).
Wow, I'd think they'd want the prostitution more involved!
A similar game that I enjoyed in my youth that was labeled as "educational" but played as a normal fun game was BannerCatch.
A simplistic description:
Bannercatch is a five-level partnership game of strategy and skill. You and your partner compete on a 64sector playing field against a character named Max. The object of the game is to capture Max's flag with your robots and carry it back to your part of the playing field. Your side has four joystick-controlled, "humanoid" robots. Max also has four robots.
The game is quite involved and comes with a number of items including a detailed instruction manual, a reference card, a secret document marked "for robots only," a colorful bannercatch poster, bannercatch stickers, and playing field map.
The playfield is huge. Only a portion of each of the 64-sectors of the playfield is visible on the screen at once. The screen is split so each partner can view a different part of the field. To keep track of your location, you have to note the sector number you're in and then refer to the playing field map.
Defeating Max and his robots isn't easy. To do it you have to work with your partner and learn how to intercept and decode the secret messages he sends to his robots. That's where an added bonus comes in. Max and his robots communicate in binary code. By playing the game you learn to read binary numbers, an important skill to have if you're interested in computer programming.
Besides defeating Max, another goal is revealing his mysterious face. Each time you win a game, a bit more of Max's face will appear. A special sheet is provided so you can gradually sketch in his face as you win more and more games.
Interesting sound effects occur when you accidentally bump into something or when you cross the river dividing the playing field. Lively, well-written music helps announce the winner of each game. The action can be quite exciting as you try to elude Max's robots or chase them when they steal your flag. Careful though! I almost broke a joystick running from Tor, one of Max's robots.
Parties and Women right? Oh.. forgot this was /.
Time to get the bats out again.
I think Ender's Game is more compelling evidence that the 3rds are where it's at!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Madness
Although not originally released for the Amiga, his game was one of the most influential I can think of. It was a little unexplored genre with you controlling the pinball directly (or marble in this case). Similar to the monkey balls of today, but way before their time.
Feel free to have a good time with monkey balls.
I think most people would be hardpressed to be bored with that big a vibrator.
These stories never end up being about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_Reality
Plattery will get you everywhere!
OW! My freaking ears....
I have to keep surfing or else I will cease to exist.
The real problem is that the childen are "pointing it out" by kicking the emperor in the balls.
Can't condone violence.
He's really just using Slashdot to break his server farm so he won't have to get spam anymore.
It hasn't happened since, even with possibly more hours logged in WoW, but I used to recreate the battles in War2 over and over again in my dreams. It was horrible, not because of the content, but because of the endless repitition. Like Groundhog Day, but with nothing I could change!
I think this was because of the challenge of the game. Your save game point would be at a certain place where you might have a very difficult time micromanaging all the tasks you had to do to win. RPGs have a more varied challenge and I think that the repetition is what triggered my brain to go a bit crazy.
I for one welcome our insect (eating) overlords.
I've had the exact same experience. Ebay is a spam harvesters dream.
I see the advance listed. Is it possible they would release something to the other major platforms and the advance, but not the cube?
My guess is that is was trying to get money out of Kiwi publishing for their (excellent) paper collection of the 1st year. It is rather a shame that no more books have been discussed and I'm betting that the publisher screwing them over has something to do with it.
Features from the article:
Wide screen with pen input
Handwriting recognition
HTML browser supports Flash 6
Up to 90 MB internal memory, 128 MB MMC card
**** Megapixel camera (1152x864 pixels)
Music player with stereo audio
Audio and video playback and streaming
FM/Visual Radio