You! Burger lord! How is it that this meat is so pure, so perfect?
Well, it all started in 1962... Utilizing advances in modern food synthesis, scientists at NASA began work on a germ hostile space meat-
Only recently has their hard work paid off. As even more advances in the field of space meat have been made and applied to what is now known as Operation Meat. Seeing this as a way to end their streak of being sued by angry costumers poisoned by their burgers, the Mac Meaties corporation decided to try this miraculous space meat.
Not having access to that technology, we make ours out of napkins.
This article is a joke. This guy seems to know very little about nothing.
THE end of the Microsoft trial is great news whatever you think of the defendant - because the trial was all about the past, and we in the technology world have no more time to waste on that topic.
The past? Idiot. Idiot! Fool. If we don't look at our past and learn from it, we are gonna repeat it, and make the same damn mistakes in the future. What MS did only affects everyone in computerdom out there. Ask Be Inc, or Netscape, OS/2 or Linux companies what they think of about this being something we should forget about? No, it was about our present, and future. XP wouldn't be the POS it is if there was more competition.
Meanwhile, operating systems are lapsing into senile irrelevance. An operating system connects the user (and the user's software) to the ensemble of machines we call a computer. But nowadays users no longer want to be connected to computers. They want to be connected to information, a claim that sounds vague but is clear and specific.
But wasn't that the goal of computers from the beginning? To enable a 'paperless world' where we could input and receive information from a centralized location. Um, mainframe, anyone? And how is the OS irrelevant? Maybe to him it is, and to the home user, but to developers, hardware makers, and administrators, the OS is very much the heart and soul of the computer. It determines whether the software will run- the software that obtains the information you demand.
This kind of information management is simpler, more powerful and more natural than the Steelcase-inspired software we've got today - the files, the folders, the desktops and all those other high-tech office accessories straight out of 1946.
You know, I still use a file cabinet. As far as I know, they are a great resource when the network goes down, or a hdd crashes. I support large companies that still use them. Just because it is old, does not mean it is no longer needed, wanted, or relevant.
We built our system on Microsoft Windows because Windows is a reliable, solid, reasonably priced, nearly universal platform....
Well, one out of 3 ain't bad. No comment on what everyone else will point out here.
Of course, another operating system, Linux, is also clamoring for attention. Linux and Windows are both children of the 70's: Linux grew out of Unix, invented by AT Windows is based on the revolutionary work of Xerox research. In technology years, these loyal and devoted operating systems are each approximately 4,820 years old. (Technology years are like dog years, only shorter.)
Anyone know what he is talking about here? So, Windows and Unix are almost 5000 dog years old. How is this little piece of info helping his argument. Can anyone help me out here. I don't see it. I think he is trying to make linux look like the old beast of the ancients, when it is actually newer than Windows is. I mean, Windows the OS didn't happen till 1993 with NT 3.1- linux was 'born' in 1990. Prior to 93, windows was an OE.
Anyway, the next battle isn't for people like you, it's for the business desktop...
I can't agree with this. I may use linux and support linux, but I know that the 'war on the desktop' isn't just about TCO or the server or just the Business Desktop. If that were true, then games wouldn't be the big issue that they are. I consider Desktop Linux to be finally getting to adolescence. Unfortunately, linux has to chase Windows and OSX for desktop friendliness and their definition of usability.
His delema is one we should be concerned with. Driver issues related to 'binary only drivers' and 4 mouse icons on a fubar X desktop and games that don't work unless you download such and such and multimedia that won't work unless you tweak this file and load this module and restart that service. These need to work for the home user. The home user is what the ultimate goal of Desktop Linux is. Server Linux is already mature. I am not worried about that. Business Desktop Linux? Damn close. Home User Linux? Nope. I wouldn't dare put it on my gf's parents' computers. No way. I barely trust them to use windows as it is. And this is still the majority of the people out there. Of course, driver issues occur on every OS. Of course bugs will be had by all, and security issues will occur. But home users don't give a shit about that (unless they are technically enclined). They want a box that will play WC3, run AOL, load up that neat site with all the pop ups, play the media files included in their emails. Linux is inching that direction. Yay. But it isn't there, yet.
That's a relief. I am glad to see IE go away, and with it, a large user base that is starting to see other options out there (did you know Netscape still carries meaning with a lot of people?)
So it isn't enough that MS has the OS desktop, web browser, Office Software, 1 of 3 commonly used media types out there....they still want more. damn. Someone needs to take out this 800 lb gorilla, and do it soon. But I get the feeling, only MS can take itself out. The government can't.
I am glad to see Opera available to yet another platform. Perhaps Opera is trying to become the netscape of Unix-land.
Opera is a lot faster than Mozilla, and I think it is a prime browser. I've been using it off and on for almost 2 years (I knew a guy who was from Norway, and was huge on this browser even back then).
This is awesome. Way to go Opera. Congrats FreeBSD.
No seriously....I don't know why either. What a joke. Is having the best group worth hurting a perfectly good and (arguably) noble program such as SETI? I can understand games - but this? Let me guess they are the same people who bitch that think they need a quad xeon box for a single web site with less than 300 hits a day.
They are mostly used to raise dirt and rocks. Sometimes scrubs, as they are worth a lot in the black market. But, we arizona farmers are after the ripe harvest of dirt. Good, clean dirt, too. None of this wet 'mud' stuff everyone else seems to prize. Sure, it doesn't grow much, but that's exactly what we want. We can then harvest it, and then lay it down in front of our houses for a wonderously rocky/sandy type of look. Oh, and don't forget, it brightens things up a bit, too.
I think that whatever state is chosen is in danger. If geeks flood the state and take over, won't they die out in 30-50 years? I mean, most geeks don't get any- much less procreate.
I am not sure that bringing a pc or the internet to the desktop of every person out there is a good idea. We talk about how it is great to share information and get everyone into the 21st century with email and web sites and online banking and blah blah blah. But really, I know many people who use a computer, and the internet, and I am not so sure they wouldn't be better off without it. They are not only clumsy and clueless, but they don't seem to want to know how to use the computer. It is almost as if just having one is a status symbol. But attach a file in email? Uh huh, riiiiight. Plus, the market of users has caused a flood of poor software out there. This doesn't help matters at all. But it leads me to the age old question: do you dumb down the computer, or educate the user?
Look at the automobile industry. While I admit that most have no clue how to work on one, they usually are reliable enough, and user friendly enough to get people where they need to go. But in order to use a car, they need to pass a test, and get certified. I don't suggest certifying computer users, but I think they should take some responsibility in learning about the computer that is so proudly sitting on that desk in the office or living room.
AOL and Microsoft are the 'bad guys' for 2 reasons: size- which leads to the 2nd: they think they can get away with shodding software and shodding business practices. And as long as they do these things, and we have users who don't give a crap, they will be on my list of 'shitty software to not recommend to the user'. Especially AOL.
I moved my girlfriend's parents from AOL to cable internet from COX.
sheesh, wrong move?
I can't tell. On the one hand, that puke of an app AOL is gone from the system, and they have a snappy connection. On the other hand, I have 2 people who call me when they click the wrong area, and the window goes behind Outlook Express, and they can't find it (yeah, I know, minimized, but they don't know that). Ruined my golf game on Sunday (miniture golf, that is;-) ).
On AOL, they knew what they were doing. I thought I was saving headaches when they moved over. I don't know about them, but my headaches have increased.
AOL is still needed. Painful, but true. AOL is nice for users who still don't know what a power button is. I hope it survives as an 'entrance' to the net, and nothing more.
I always imagined Katz doing this article on/., not some guest at El Reg.
Imagine:
Has the day of the geek gone the way of feelings of Security Americans feel on their home soil? As we survey the post-columbine waste land that is the New Order of the world, we find that more and more, geeks are losing touch with their roots. Gone are the days of vi versus emacs, while now we stand upon the precipice of disorder over the the likes of the DMCA and DRM. Why is our beloved order of geekdom crumbling around us? Has September 11th ripped our geek hearts and souls out, as Columbine did previously. Please read on as I follow the path of the Ruination of Geeks in HellMonth PI: Tragedy over X vs Windows.
I was one of those fans of the pre-movie Transformers. Granted, the animation was worse than after, but still, it was so bad, that Optimus had to come back to life.
Now, saying that, I loved the movie right up until HotRod became Rodimus. He was such a sucky leader. I wanted Galvetron to kill him. Plus the toy wasn't near as cool as Optimus.
Yes, I liked the show, and yes I had the toys. I don't think the Simpsons will go in the tubes because of a movie in the same way that Transformers did- I mean, the 2 best characters died in the first 10 minutes or so. If Homer and Bart die in the first 10 minutes, who is gonna replace them? Maggie-mus and Apu-tron?
Simpsons, to me, appears to be getting old, until, that is, I watch an episode I haven't seen, like a new one, or one from seasons 2-6 (I watched the original skits on The Tracy Ulman Show, too). I think the best way to keep the movie true to form, is for a lot of interlinking skits to be tied together following a bigger plot line. This would keep it true to its current successful form.
I am all for a standardized look, but it seems that RedHat has not quite gotten a look or feel down right.
Look, I love KDE. I use it at home. I love gnome, I use it at work. But I think RedHat should choose just one to focus the corporate desktop on. If they take Gnome, great, if they take KDE, great too. If they take Blackbox, fine.
I remember being directed to this site back in December of 1997, or January of 1997. I wondered why I should consider registering, so I didn't for a year. I then decided to, why not, go for it. I signed on, promptly switched jobs, and lost the login and password (still have the login, I think).
I am not sure when I created this login ID. I remember, however, when the first post was original. I remember when a decent word processor was what was needed for linux to have prime time. I remember discussing that as an AC in the beginning. Word Perfect 7, I think.
While Tolkien doesn't come right out and say it, he pretty much makes it clear that Gollum was of some sort of creature related to the hobbit. Gandalf speaks of this during the Fellowship, I believe. And in The Two Towers, while he is watching Gollum sleep, Sam Frodo thinks of how hobbit-like the creature looks.
So....guess we don't know, but there are clues, iirc, that he probably was one, at one time.
The unemployment rate is calculated from all the unemployed people who have registered with the government, either for welfare, unemployment, or other means to show they do not have a job. It does not show those who do not have a job from voluntarily leaving, or whose unemployment status has gone beyond the 6 months of unemployment benefits.
I think the number of 6 or 7% is too low. Kick that up to around 9 or perhaps 10% and you have the real numbers.
If you add in students that don't work, it would be higher. I think the government is playing with numbers here. I know too many people who are without a job, as compared to 18 months ago. And this is between Texas and Arizona.
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You! Burger lord! How is it that this meat is so pure, so perfect?
Well, it all started in 1962... Utilizing advances in modern food synthesis, scientists at NASA began work on a germ hostile space meat-
Only recently has their hard work paid off. As even more advances in the field of space meat have been made and applied to what is now known as Operation Meat.
Seeing this as a way to end their streak of being sued by angry costumers poisoned by their burgers, the Mac Meaties corporation decided to try this miraculous space meat.
Not having access to that technology, we make ours out of napkins.
This article is a joke. This guy seems to know very little about nothing.
THE end of the Microsoft trial is great news whatever you think of the defendant - because the trial was all about the past, and we in the technology world have no more time to waste on that topic.
The past? Idiot. Idiot! Fool. If we don't look at our past and learn from it, we are gonna repeat it, and make the same damn mistakes in the future. What MS did only affects everyone in computerdom out there. Ask Be Inc, or Netscape, OS/2 or Linux companies what they think of about this being something we should forget about? No, it was about our present, and future. XP wouldn't be the POS it is if there was more competition.
Meanwhile, operating systems are lapsing into senile irrelevance. An operating system connects the user (and the user's software) to the ensemble of machines we call a computer. But nowadays users no longer want to be connected to computers. They want to be connected to information, a claim that sounds vague but is clear and specific.
But wasn't that the goal of computers from the beginning? To enable a 'paperless world' where we could input and receive information from a centralized location. Um, mainframe, anyone? And how is the OS irrelevant? Maybe to him it is, and to the home user, but to developers, hardware makers, and administrators, the OS is very much the heart and soul of the computer. It determines whether the software will run- the software that obtains the information you demand.
This kind of information management is simpler, more powerful and more natural than the Steelcase-inspired software we've got today - the files, the folders, the desktops and all those other high-tech office accessories straight out of 1946.
You know, I still use a file cabinet. As far as I know, they are a great resource when the network goes down, or a hdd crashes. I support large companies that still use them. Just because it is old, does not mean it is no longer needed, wanted, or relevant.
We built our system on Microsoft Windows because Windows is a reliable, solid, reasonably priced, nearly universal platform....
Well, one out of 3 ain't bad. No comment on what everyone else will point out here.
Of course, another operating system, Linux, is also clamoring for attention. Linux and Windows are both children of the 70's: Linux grew out of Unix, invented by AT Windows is based on the revolutionary work of Xerox research. In technology years, these loyal and devoted operating systems are each approximately 4,820 years old. (Technology years are like dog years, only shorter.)
Anyone know what he is talking about here? So, Windows and Unix are almost 5000 dog years old. How is this little piece of info helping his argument. Can anyone help me out here. I don't see it. I think he is trying to make linux look like the old beast of the ancients, when it is actually newer than Windows is. I mean, Windows the OS didn't happen till 1993 with NT 3.1- linux was 'born' in 1990. Prior to 93, windows was an OE.
Anyway, the next battle isn't for people like you, it's for the business desktop...
I can't agree with this. I may use linux and support linux, but I know that the 'war on the desktop' isn't just about TCO or the server or just the Business Desktop. If that were true, then games wouldn't be the big issue that they are. I consider Desktop Linux to be finally getting to adolescence. Unfortunately, linux has to chase Windows and OSX for desktop friendliness and their definition of usability.
His delema is one we should be concerned with. Driver issues related to 'binary only drivers' and 4 mouse icons on a fubar X desktop and games that don't work unless you download such and such and multimedia that won't work unless you tweak this file and load this module and restart that service. These need to work for the home user. The home user is what the ultimate goal of Desktop Linux is.
Server Linux is already mature. I am not worried about that. Business Desktop Linux? Damn close. Home User Linux? Nope. I wouldn't dare put it on my gf's parents' computers. No way. I barely trust them to use windows as it is. And this is still the majority of the people out there.
Of course, driver issues occur on every OS. Of course bugs will be had by all, and security issues will occur. But home users don't give a shit about that (unless they are technically enclined). They want a box that will play WC3, run AOL, load up that neat site with all the pop ups, play the media files included in their emails. Linux is inching that direction. Yay. But it isn't there, yet.
yet.
Damn it....3mhz?? well, here's hoping I can run it on my 1.2GHZ box.
whew. That was close. Now where did I put that 386sx33 at any ways....
That's a relief. I am glad to see IE go away, and with it, a large user base that is starting to see other options out there (did you know Netscape still carries meaning with a lot of people?)
So it isn't enough that MS has the OS desktop, web browser, Office Software, 1 of 3 commonly used media types out there....they still want more. damn. Someone needs to take out this 800 lb gorilla, and do it soon. But I get the feeling, only MS can take itself out. The government can't.
Oh man, I thought we learned from the Trickle Down Theory in the 80s.
I am glad to see Opera available to yet another platform. Perhaps Opera is trying to become the netscape of Unix-land.
Opera is a lot faster than Mozilla, and I think it is a prime browser. I've been using it off and on for almost 2 years (I knew a guy who was from Norway, and was huge on this browser even back then).
This is awesome. Way to go Opera. Congrats FreeBSD.
1. Cheat on SETI
....
2.
3. PROFIT!!
No seriously....I don't know why either. What a joke. Is having the best group worth hurting a perfectly good and (arguably) noble program such as SETI? I can understand games - but this? Let me guess they are the same people who bitch that think they need a quad xeon box for a single web site with less than 300 hits a day.
-sigh-
How many of us really didn't know what a blog was? I know I didn't.
So, basically, an online journal site was hacked. Not sure this is big news, or news that mattered. But it does qualify as news for nerds.
Thanks, taco
Let me tell you about arizona farms.
They are mostly used to raise dirt and rocks. Sometimes scrubs, as they are worth a lot in the black market. But, we arizona farmers are after the ripe harvest of dirt. Good, clean dirt, too. None of this wet 'mud' stuff everyone else seems to prize. Sure, it doesn't grow much, but that's exactly what we want. We can then harvest it, and then lay it down in front of our houses for a wonderously rocky/sandy type of look. Oh, and don't forget, it brightens things up a bit, too.
Jesse Helms? I never would have thought a High Ranking Republican would get involved like this- and on the side of the smaller guy.
I am glad the legislation is 'dead' for a few weeks. I hope when they reconviene, it stays dead.
I think that whatever state is chosen is in danger. If geeks flood the state and take over, won't they die out in 30-50 years? I mean, most geeks don't get any- much less procreate.
I am not sure that bringing a pc or the internet to the desktop of every person out there is a good idea. We talk about how it is great to share information and get everyone into the 21st century with email and web sites and online banking and blah blah blah. But really, I know many people who use a computer, and the internet, and I am not so sure they wouldn't be better off without it. They are not only clumsy and clueless, but they don't seem to want to know how to use the computer. It is almost as if just having one is a status symbol. But attach a file in email? Uh huh, riiiiight. Plus, the market of users has caused a flood of poor software out there. This doesn't help matters at all. But it leads me to the age old question: do you dumb down the computer, or educate the user?
Look at the automobile industry. While I admit that most have no clue how to work on one, they usually are reliable enough, and user friendly enough to get people where they need to go. But in order to use a car, they need to pass a test, and get certified. I don't suggest certifying computer users, but I think they should take some responsibility in learning about the computer that is so proudly sitting on that desk in the office or living room.
AOL and Microsoft are the 'bad guys' for 2 reasons: size- which leads to the 2nd: they think they can get away with shodding software and shodding business practices. And as long as they do these things, and we have users who don't give a crap, they will be on my list of 'shitty software to not recommend to the user'. Especially AOL.
my 2 cents.....out
Um, ages? Dude, how old are you anyways? 10 months?
One word: SELAND!
Um, you mean SEALAND, right?
The link goes to Sealandgov.org.
Just thought I'd help you out here...
I had no idea.....
46. Contraceptive device.
I moved my girlfriend's parents from AOL to cable internet from COX.
;-) ).
sheesh, wrong move?
I can't tell. On the one hand, that puke of an app AOL is gone from the system, and they have a snappy connection.
On the other hand, I have 2 people who call me when they click the wrong area, and the window goes behind Outlook Express, and they can't find it (yeah, I know, minimized, but they don't know that). Ruined my golf game on Sunday (miniture golf, that is
On AOL, they knew what they were doing. I thought I was saving headaches when they moved over. I don't know about them, but my headaches have increased.
AOL is still needed. Painful, but true. AOL is nice for users who still don't know what a power button is. I hope it survives as an 'entrance' to the net, and nothing more.
Prot was right! I knew it!
Now I know he was really an alien!
I always imagined Katz doing this article on /., not some guest at El Reg.
Imagine:
Has the day of the geek gone the way of feelings of Security Americans feel on their home soil? As we survey the post-columbine waste land that is the New Order of the world, we find that more and more, geeks are losing touch with their roots. Gone are the days of vi versus emacs, while now we stand upon the precipice of disorder over the the likes of the DMCA and DRM. Why is our beloved order of geekdom crumbling around us? Has September 11th ripped our geek hearts and souls out, as Columbine did previously. Please read on as I follow the path of the Ruination of Geeks in HellMonth PI: Tragedy over X vs Windows.
sigh, I miss Katz.
I was one of those fans of the pre-movie Transformers. Granted, the animation was worse than after, but still, it was so bad, that Optimus had to come back to life.
Now, saying that, I loved the movie right up until HotRod became Rodimus. He was such a sucky leader. I wanted Galvetron to kill him. Plus the toy wasn't near as cool as Optimus.
Yes, I liked the show, and yes I had the toys. I don't think the Simpsons will go in the tubes because of a movie in the same way that Transformers did- I mean, the 2 best characters died in the first 10 minutes or so. If Homer and Bart die in the first 10 minutes, who is gonna replace them? Maggie-mus and Apu-tron?
Simpsons, to me, appears to be getting old, until, that is, I watch an episode I haven't seen, like a new one, or one from seasons 2-6 (I watched the original skits on The Tracy Ulman Show, too). I think the best way to keep the movie true to form, is for a lot of interlinking skits to be tied together following a bigger plot line. This would keep it true to its current successful form.
my 2 cents is free....
I am all for a standardized look, but it seems that RedHat has not quite gotten a look or feel down right.
Look, I love KDE. I use it at home. I love gnome, I use it at work. But I think RedHat should choose just one to focus the corporate desktop on. If they take Gnome, great, if they take KDE, great too. If they take Blackbox, fine.
I know who still uses meta-tags!
www.se.....oh wait, you said besides pr0n sites....
well, never mind, then.
I remember being directed to this site back in December of 1997, or January of 1997. I wondered why I should consider registering, so I didn't for a year.
I then decided to, why not, go for it. I signed on, promptly switched jobs, and lost the login and password (still have the login, I think).
I am not sure when I created this login ID. I remember, however, when the first post was original. I remember when a decent word processor was what was needed for linux to have prime time. I remember discussing that as an AC in the beginning. Word Perfect 7, I think.
Anyways. I have enjoyed the site. Thanks guys!
While Tolkien doesn't come right out and say it, he pretty much makes it clear that Gollum was of some sort of creature related to the hobbit. Gandalf speaks of this during the Fellowship, I believe. And in The Two Towers, while he is watching Gollum sleep, Sam Frodo thinks of how hobbit-like the creature looks.
So....guess we don't know, but there are clues, iirc, that he probably was one, at one time.
The unemployment rate is calculated from all the unemployed people who have registered with the government, either for welfare, unemployment, or other means to show they do not have a job. It does not show those who do not have a job from voluntarily leaving, or whose unemployment status has gone beyond the 6 months of unemployment benefits.
I think the number of 6 or 7% is too low. Kick that up to around 9 or perhaps 10% and you have the real numbers.
If you add in students that don't work, it would be higher. I think the government is playing with numbers here. I know too many people who are without a job, as compared to 18 months ago. And this is between Texas and Arizona.