Maybe they are further along than they let us believe? I was one to think lindows would be vaporware/betaware for years. But if they are really going to be releasing this to what many people would call the none to bright masses, they must have some ace up their sleave.
"Of course, that begs the question of why Yoda seemed to be straining to lift it."
Its called inconsistency, I think that's a Lucas trademark;), actualy quite a bit of the "movie makers" have it. Where book writers keep things very consist with themselves.
Its nice seeing Sun take the ball and run, even though some of their thigns arn't making sense. (like the new cost of Solaris) I do like how Sun creates cross platform/os/network things. I just hope they keep them open once all the MS monopolies are broken and they have the lead.
This is a really good stratigy to moving(breaking MS "other" monopoly) into business. Open source/free program that can do most things Staroffice can, staroffice being a more polished product with more features being charged a low amount, but giving free to all places that where people would be inclined to bring it into a place where it could make money.
I haven't used the new star office yet, but I do know that the old one had major flaws with office files.(saving) Also, it has some anoying features I have to fight with, and can't find the options to. But other than that, its a very nice product.
You got it wrong, MS doesn't want computers, MS wants set top boxes (or ones inside every tv). Well they want everything, but that is their ultimate goal, and has been at least since ~95.
And take a look at who is the new chip for the Xbox. And intel is almost being forced into making a chip compatiable to AMDs hammer.
"In the late 70s, IBM was under similar scrutiny, and signed a consent decree with the DoJ to end the investigation. Among other things, the consent decree required IBM to "unbundle" hardware, software and services."
That is the sole reason why OS/2 Warp failed so bad. But if it had secseeded, MS wouldn;t exist the way it does today, but we might of had worse than MS in IBM.
The only thing that can really setr things strait, is something that what java was suppose to be. Pure cross platform/os/whatever programs.
"It would at least require companies to obey their own privacy policies."
No it wouldn't, because you wouldn't have any legal action against them if they break it. And I never have heard much in the way of the FTC. We would be completly reliant that the FTC bears of this, and actualy doing something.
"Consumers would have no right to sue if their privacy was violated. Enforcement would be left in the hands of the Federal Trade Commission, which usually does not impose fines on a first offense."
What was wrong with the old themes.org? sure, do a rewrite, but keep it basicaly the same. Right now, I don't liek the freshmeat one for several reasons, 1, opening windows and taking away broswer compoments, like url bar?? grrr
Ya ya, I can easily enough get arround that. But still, what was wrong with the old site? It was painfully obvious no one liked the new, why couldn't they just reverted and used some brains on how to make that one better.
Is that they can have a lot more devices, and it isn't just limited to storage. MY personal system has 5 HD's, 1 cdrom, 1 zip, 1 scanner. All scsi. If it wasn't for that one thing, yea, ide would make scsi people stupid now days.
Not to mention, there is also the smartness of the scsi controller. I've used "good" usb scanners, and ittakes over you computer when scanner. With scsi, you can burn a cd, scan a picture, and play quake3 with out a hickup. Now, who would do all that? Well think enterprises. Think 14 15000 RPM scsi drives in a raid 5 (or what ever). Or think media people having to render imamges while saving to a file and other stuff.
Oh ya, and nothing like sending in an older (3 year old ) scsi drive for RMA, with no questions asks other than "how can I help you".
But I have to admit, these days I keep quesioning myself on my coninuation of buying scsi for home. The I just look at all the things I have in scsi, and think of how I would "try" to do it w/o it. And I can't.
Oh ya, somethign that you ide people can't do 1 10k rpm hd OS 1 10k rpm hd swap/tmp 1 10k rpm hd data 1 10k rpm hd applications/games 1 10k rpm hd mp3/downloads, etc
Unfortunately, most of the human race is little more than drones, and just follow along, and enjoy being little more than slaves. Err, maybe not enjoy, but don't care, they don't want to work anymore than they need to.
While, many of us, who don't watch TV to begin with, would find a book or other reading matterial, these people might whine at the most.
We really need to do something about this new form of slavery. In slavery I meam that we exist soley to pay taxes and be happy little customers. And anything that goes against that marks you as a theif.
I applaud you, and wish for the best. They seam to back down "most" (not in bnetd's case yet) of the time when ever they use it against us when opposition is brought up. But we really need to get them in court on these shacky leagle tactics and bring the law down.
Oh ya, everyone sign up, and pay more than $25.00, 65 and you get a shirt. $65.00 and you get to help while not moving from your chair!
Is it posible to drop the 16 bit and lower, and only have the 32 bit with the new 64 bit?
Oh, and what happens with the bios/cmos and all that, those are all 8 bit arn't they?
I admit I haven;t read up, but I have always wondered about why not just dropping the older stuff and keep maybe 1 or 2 generations of this crap to lesson the lead while making it easier for people with backward compatiabilty.
It is about $200+ difference, not to mention, if they say it is 129, then that is what they sell it as. No false advertising you know.
Best buy has done stuff like this before, where they accidently show on the website a monorot for like 150$, and they fix the error when it comes to billing the customers credit card.
So now, it seams both sides are being a little more aggressive. And yes, I would be one of them had I seen that card going for that cheap.
This bill gives a little bit that what we want, but continues to take more away. Infact, it insures that those things would be leagle. And some idetifies of our personal information as non personal.
They will still be selling our infoarmion, it just insures they can sell it, and offers and opt out.
There should be a law that makes it completly illeagle to sell peoples information. Not the other way arround.
I have yet to see any such EULA that even asked for a signature. Until that happens, how can you even claim that the person who you claim is breaking the contract, was even the one who clicked on ok.
" but forcing the very nice web browsing pig into the file manager prom dress was dirt stupid when Windows did it, and it's even more dirt stupid in KDE"
"There's way too much clutter."
Here here!!! These two things is why linux gui SUCKS. (well that, and to many layers)
I don't want a web interface to my computer, I want a slitc and fast one. And there is to much garbarge. To many things on the "taskbar", and to many to complicated trees of menus.
I mean ya, kde is neat, but damn is the user interface garbage, it does a terriable job of what MS did. (web+ computer interface in one) and its cluttered.
If they fixed those two things, it would be on my desktop, and the desktop of many others.
Would have to be Eduora. I have tried many different version through out the years, and it has always sucked IMO.
Best, well, maybe Netscape mail (with navigator 4.5+) Oh, and I don't liek the newer mozilla email client.
I like to beable to view all headers with a push of a button and not destroy things. I need to be able to cut and paste from the headers or any part of the e-mail. Spell check Easy folder mantiance Easy rules and filters Support pop imap and so forth. Turn off javascript and viewing as webpage, but would like a button where it could view html mail on the fly.
AMD moved to slot for technical reasons, Intel moved for political reasons. I'm sure part of the reason why AMD went to slot was to use up the mass production of the slot 1 wich they made pin compatiable with their slot a. Also, I did read a lot on how AMD needed a new socket/bus and also how AMDs use of the slot was better engineered.
And to clarify, it was the really the k6-2 that made the "supper 7". k6's was out long before slot 1/a was out. 3dnow, higher buss speeds, higher clock speeds.
Dude, on a 486/66 with 12 ram, I coudl run doom2 in one dos box right next to heritic. You could see the whole thing but smaller, and it was real time, not paused when you was playign the other window.
This was on os/2 warp 3. Damn, I loved that OS. I could run anything, anyway I wanted too. Well, until DirectX came out. (32bit windows dlls put a damper on things for a while too)
But I had an easier time running dos games back then, remember the two major memory usages for games and having to reboot dependiong on the game or application playing? OS/2 didn't need any of that.
OS/2 problem was that IBM should have sold it to someone who could leagle push a major os w/o litigation about monopoly praticies.
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Maybe they are further along than they let us believe? I was one to think lindows would be vaporware/betaware for years. But if they are really going to be releasing this to what many people would call the none to bright masses, they must have some ace up their sleave.
"Of course, that begs the question of why Yoda seemed to be straining to lift it."
;), actualy quite a bit of the "movie makers" have it. Where book writers keep things very consist with themselves.
Its called inconsistency, I think that's a Lucas trademark
Its nice seeing Sun take the ball and run, even though some of their thigns arn't making sense. (like the new cost of Solaris) I do like how Sun creates cross platform/os/network things. I just hope they keep them open once all the MS monopolies are broken and they have the lead.
This is a really good stratigy to moving(breaking MS "other" monopoly) into business. Open source/free program that can do most things Staroffice can, staroffice being a more polished product with more features being charged a low amount, but giving free to all places that where people would be inclined to bring it into a place where it could make money.
I haven't used the new star office yet, but I do know that the old one had major flaws with office files.(saving) Also, it has some anoying features I have to fight with, and can't find the options to. But other than that, its a very nice product.
The latest version ;)
Well all jokes aside, its the latest version that comes with the a new OS. Next would prob be the "betas".
You got me thinking now. I will look.
You got it wrong, MS doesn't want computers, MS wants set top boxes (or ones inside every tv). Well they want everything, but that is their ultimate goal, and has been at least since ~95.
And take a look at who is the new chip for the Xbox. And intel is almost being forced into making a chip compatiable to AMDs hammer.
"In the late 70s, IBM was under similar scrutiny, and signed a consent decree with the DoJ to end the investigation. Among other things, the consent decree required IBM to "unbundle" hardware, software and services."
That is the sole reason why OS/2 Warp failed so bad. But if it had secseeded, MS wouldn;t exist the way it does today, but we might of had worse than MS in IBM.
The only thing that can really setr things strait, is something that what java was suppose to be. Pure cross platform/os/whatever programs.
So lets hope.
Or maybe they think they are paying intel to much, and know they can get it cheaper.
And they might think why bother with a contract for older parts.
"It would at least require companies to obey their own privacy policies."
No it wouldn't, because you wouldn't have any legal action against them if they break it. And I never have heard much in the way of the FTC. We would be completly reliant that the FTC bears of this, and actualy doing something.
"Consumers would have no right to sue if their privacy was violated. Enforcement would be left in the hands of the Federal Trade Commission, which usually does not impose fines on a first offense."
Or the reverse could happen, could have some people competing to do the most. Of course I doubt it would be things of illeagle nature . . .
What was wrong with the old themes.org? sure, do a rewrite, but keep it basicaly the same. Right now, I don't liek the freshmeat one for several reasons, 1, opening windows and taking away broswer compoments, like url bar?? grrr
Ya ya, I can easily enough get arround that. But still, what was wrong with the old site? It was painfully obvious no one liked the new, why couldn't they just reverted and used some brains on how to make that one better.
Is that they can have a lot more devices, and it isn't just limited to storage. MY personal system has 5 HD's, 1 cdrom, 1 zip, 1 scanner. All scsi. If it wasn't for that one thing, yea, ide would make scsi people stupid now days.
Not to mention, there is also the smartness of the scsi controller. I've used "good" usb scanners, and ittakes over you computer when scanner. With scsi, you can burn a cd, scan a picture, and play quake3 with out a hickup. Now, who would do all that? Well think enterprises. Think 14 15000 RPM scsi drives in a raid 5 (or what ever). Or think media people having to render imamges while saving to a file and other stuff.
Oh ya, and nothing like sending in an older (3 year old ) scsi drive for RMA, with no questions asks other than "how can I help you".
But I have to admit, these days I keep quesioning myself on my coninuation of buying scsi for home. The I just look at all the things I have in scsi, and think of how I would "try" to do it w/o it. And I can't.
Oh ya, somethign that you ide people can't do
1 10k rpm hd OS
1 10k rpm hd swap/tmp
1 10k rpm hd data
1 10k rpm hd applications/games
1 10k rpm hd mp3/downloads, etc
Unfortunately, most of the human race is little more than drones, and just follow along, and enjoy being little more than slaves. Err, maybe not enjoy, but don't care, they don't want to work anymore than they need to.
While, many of us, who don't watch TV to begin with, would find a book or other reading matterial, these people might whine at the most.
We really need to do something about this new form of slavery. In slavery I meam that we exist soley to pay taxes and be happy little customers. And anything that goes against that marks you as a theif.
I applaud you, and wish for the best. They seam to back down "most" (not in bnetd's case yet) of the time when ever they use it against us when opposition is brought up. But we really need to get them in court on these shacky leagle tactics and bring the law down.
Oh ya, everyone sign up, and pay more than $25.00, 65 and you get a shirt. $65.00 and you get to help while not moving from your chair!
Is it posible to drop the 16 bit and lower, and only have the 32 bit with the new 64 bit?
Oh, and what happens with the bios/cmos and all that, those are all 8 bit arn't they?
I admit I haven;t read up, but I have always wondered about why not just dropping the older stuff and keep maybe 1 or 2 generations of this crap to lesson the lead while making it easier for people with backward compatiabilty.
It is about $200+ difference, not to mention, if they say it is 129, then that is what they sell it as. No false advertising you know.
Best buy has done stuff like this before, where they accidently show on the website a monorot for like 150$, and they fix the error when it comes to billing the customers credit card.
So now, it seams both sides are being a little more aggressive. And yes, I would be one of them had I seen that card going for that cheap.
I don't care about the adds, so why should I pay?
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Now, lets begin with how they can get my money.
1. Offer services that I can use to intergrate their news. They can and should beable to expand on this.
2. Discounts on other "sister" company services and products. (Like thinkgeek)
3. Allow users with paid perscriptions to post things with an easier/nicer "lameness" filter.
I am sure there are other things that you can charge for with out devauling
Not to be making ms look better, but to give some people a way to fix it. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb; en-us;Q259922
This bill gives a little bit that what we want, but continues to take more away. Infact, it insures that those things would be leagle. And some idetifies of our personal information as non personal.
They will still be selling our infoarmion, it just insures they can sell it, and offers and opt out.
There should be a law that makes it completly illeagle to sell peoples information. Not the other way arround.
ok, I'll stop now before I get to mad . .
Contacts need to be signed.
I have yet to see any such EULA that even asked for a signature. Until that happens, how can you even claim that the person who you claim is breaking the contract, was even the one who clicked on ok.
" but forcing the very nice web browsing pig into the file manager prom dress was dirt stupid when Windows did it, and it's even more dirt stupid in KDE"
"There's way too much clutter."
Here here!!! These two things is why linux gui SUCKS. (well that, and to many layers)
I don't want a web interface to my computer, I want a slitc and fast one. And there is to much garbarge. To many things on the "taskbar", and to many to complicated trees of menus.
I mean ya, kde is neat, but damn is the user interface garbage, it does a terriable job of what MS did. (web+ computer interface in one) and its cluttered.
If they fixed those two things, it would be on my desktop, and the desktop of many others.
Would have to be Eduora. I have tried many different version through out the years, and it has always sucked IMO.
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Best, well, maybe Netscape mail (with navigator 4.5+)
Oh, and I don't liek the newer mozilla email client.
I like to beable to view all headers with a push of a button and not destroy things.
I need to be able to cut and paste from the headers or any part of the e-mail.
Spell check
Easy folder mantiance
Easy rules and filters
Support pop imap and so forth.
Turn off javascript and viewing as webpage, but would like a button where it could view html mail on the fly.
anyways, just my
AMD moved to slot for technical reasons, Intel moved for political reasons. I'm sure part of the reason why AMD went to slot was to use up the mass production of the slot 1 wich they made pin compatiable with their slot a. Also, I did read a lot on how AMD needed a new socket/bus and also how AMDs use of the slot was better engineered.
And to clarify, it was the really the k6-2 that made the "supper 7". k6's was out long before slot 1/a was out. 3dnow, higher buss speeds, higher clock speeds.
"Most programmers have oversized egos as it is, and going on about how 'code is art' doesn't help the matter."
This makes programming even sound more like art.
Dude, on a 486/66 with 12 ram, I coudl run doom2 in one dos box right next to heritic. You could see the whole thing but smaller, and it was real time, not paused when you was playign the other window.
This was on os/2 warp 3. Damn, I loved that OS. I could run anything, anyway I wanted too. Well, until DirectX came out. (32bit windows dlls put a damper on things for a while too)
But I had an easier time running dos games back then, remember the two major memory usages for games and having to reboot dependiong on the game or application playing? OS/2 didn't need any of that.
OS/2 problem was that IBM should have sold it to someone who could leagle push a major os w/o litigation about monopoly praticies.
activeX is one of the reasons not to be using IE.
Sure it has soem thigns that could be good in a very controled enviorment. But we are dealing with the internet.