* Eye of Gnome seemed to work okay, but I got all sorts of weird redraw problems when I tried to resize the window.
* Gimp (2.1) says the JPEG is unsupported and couldn't be imported by the filter, then segfaults.
* Konqueror seems to work okay, but just shows a tall black rectangle, and its spinner is still chugging away, as if it's still busy loading something.
* Firefox 0.9.3 has no troubles at all; it just shows a nice white rectangle on a white background
These programs are not vulnerable to the the exploit in the same way that Windows machines are vulnerable. In fact, the issues you saw appear to be in no way related to the intended result of the virus. GIMP's segfault seems to be the most serious of these, and it is still a minor problem. I believe all of your results can be achieved by opening a mangled/corrupted.jpg; the exploit code is irrelevant.
Nutshell: One cannot conclude that graphics-related processes/apps on Linux machines are vulnerable to this virus.
PS Conclusions posited based on "unprofessional research and wild conjectures" are likely to cause much more harm than good. Is this really necessary? (not a flame - just an observation)
So, a high powered rifle at a distance is dangerous too and they let the ban on assault rifles run out contrary to campaign promises.
In your zeal and haste to invoke the 'assault rifle' bogeyman, you forgot one thing: the "high powered rifle at a distance" is called a hunting rifle with a scope. These firearms were not covered by the assault weapons ban, and were not restricted [any more than usual] during the ban period.
Assault rifles, OTOH, are generally used at shorter ranges where the target is visible without the need for optics (e.g. a scope).
To the rest of/.: apologies for the off-topicality.
Did you just stumble across this phrase or something???
In this thread you said and any true bearded terminal hacker would tell you as such. You then used the same phrase twice in the parent post:
All it takes is one bearded terminal hacker gone bad Can we allow bearded terminal hackers to become judge, jury, and executioner
I don't often notice this sort of thing, but having just left the 'Solaris vs Linux Continues' thread the additional instances of the phrase stood out.
When radio first became popular, I believe all stations were AM. When FM technology gained ground and passed AM, the AM market began to decrease. Currently talk radio is the primary reason for using AM, but since a lot of programs are available on AM and FM stations (often the AM will have an FM counterpart) there is a relatively small demand for AM these days. Adding parts/manufacturing expense - thus increasing the cost of the final product - to support AM is seen as a losing proposition (low to negative ROI for the PHBs in the audience).
I like AM. The signals propagate much further than FM, and late at night one can pull in AM stations from hundreds of miles away. However (for me) this is an amusing sidebar: the [lack of] support for AM wouldn't be a dealbreaker in the MP3 player purchase decisionmaking process.
One can already buy Compact Flash to ATA adapters to use CF cards as hard drives. There are two primary drawbacks to this approach at the moment:
CF cards tend to 'wear out' after a certain number of write cycles. Most estimates of lifespan range from 100K to 500K write cycles. (Working from memory - could be off a bit.)
CF cards cost more per MB than traditional magnetic/rotating media drives. The cost means that the largest currently available cards may not be practical for most applications. However, CF-to-ATA adapters are nifty options for single purpose systems and homebrew firewalls. PS Go RTFA. Actually go read the Compact Flash FAQ and then go RTFA.
People tend to get excited about new products like these; in a separate but equally relevant phenomenon, they tend not to RTFA.
From the article:
Both chips, however, are prototypes. Companies just began this year to make chips on the 90-nanometer process. (The nanometer measurement refers to average feature sizes on the chips). Eighty-nanometer chips may not come for at least another year, and 65-nanometer chips won't debut until at least the end of 2005.
In other words, 16GB flash MP3 players will not be available in time for Xmas.
My cousin, brother, both sisters, guy down the street, Old Man Jenkins at the haunted amusement park....all are planning their own music download service.
I think Old Man Jenkins had the best plan. He would have succeeded, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.
If something like a little WiFi+VoIP causes an piece of equipment to stop working then the equipment needs to be replaces/reengineered, because WiFi is here to stay and VoIP is gaining momentum, so it will have to be done sooner or later.
What you might not realize is that hospitals routinely use equipment for a very long time; a 20-30 year lifespan is not unusual for certain types of equipment. The mission of the hospital is to use what works, and they tend to rely on time-tested tools and technology. They will not toss everything because of some new (in their eyes) widget.
If you think wi-fi is necessary, I challenge you thusly: describe in ~25 words exactly which showstopping hospital problem will be solved by replacing/modifying any and all equipment that might be affected by 2.4GHz range RF. IOW, what benefits will they gain from wireless that will outweigh the expense of making the hospital wi-fi-friendly, particularly when their current equipment is still serviceable?
you might want to look at one of the phrase books, usually available in the pocket dictionary form factor. It sounds like you have learned some of the Grammatik already, so you will actually understand the sentences once you get the Vokabeln down. The phrase books I have seen/used have sections for travel, restaurants, etc. - everyday situations one might face while in-country. I believe the Berlitz phrase books (vice their dictionaries) are for people who don't speak the language at all, and may do more harm than good if the translations aren't precise.
I haven't studied German for quite a few years, and I find that the grammar still makes sense but I have forgotten a lot of the vocabulary. D'oh.
Langenscheidt, Oxford-Duden, and Berlitz (among others) publish small paperback Deutsche Worterbucher. The Langenscheidt version on Amazon.com is described as containing "55,000 references" while the Oxford-Duden has around 70,000 entries.
I was an exchange student in Germany *mumble* years ago and the Langenscheidt dictionary was extremely useful.
motorcycle racers began using something called "tear-offs". (This may be an Oakley trademark - I'm not sure.) These were goggles that were overlaid with multiple layers of clear plastic across the eye area. When the goggles became covered in dust/mud, the rider could grab a tab and pull off the top layer, revealing the clean strip beneath - repeat as needed or until all the strips are gone.
There was another version that used two spools, like a film camera (remember those?). The rider pushed a button and a predetermined length of clear plastic would be wound on to the empty spindle, pulling a clean strip into the rider's field of vision. I never found out if the motor simply turned the receiving spindle N times or if there were markers on the strips themselves to shut off the motor. It seems like the "N rotations" model would be flawed, since the covering of dirt (especially mud) would change the thickness of the plastic strip and thus the effective radius of the receiving spindle, unnecessarily increasing the amount of new material used. Hmmm.
Anyway, re: your patent question - I think there is prior art.:-)
and had been told as much by his record label. He did not receive a denial and go "ahead with it anyway". Read this and get your facts straight before sounding off.
In fact, I'll make it easy for you; here is the relevant excerpt from the FAQ:
What about Coolio? I heard that he was upset with Al about "Amish Paradise."
That was a very unfortunate case of misunderstanding between Al's people and Coolio's people. Short version of the story: Al recorded "Amish Paradise" after being told by his record label that Coolio had given his permission for the parody. When Al's album came out, Coolio publicly contended that he had never given his blessing, and that he was in fact very offended by the song. To this day we're not exactly sure who got their facts wrong, but Al sincerely apologizes to Coolio for the misunderstanding.
I hope it doesn't become a petulant and rebellious teenager - sleeping late, making people wait, grumbling about garbage collection, exploring promiscuous mode, ignoring quotas, etc.
/"Excuse me, I seem to have the plague" - E. Izzard
Douglas Adams described the Vogons as "not being above bribery and corruption in the same way that the sea is not above the clouds" (something like that - I'm working from memory).
For some odd reason that phrase popped into my head as I read the article.
Another interesting bit:
"...The results showed that IBM z900 mainframe running Linux is much less capable and vastly more expensive than Windows Server 2003 as a platform for server consolidation.*" The ASA said the asterisk linked to a footnote that said: "Results may vary outside the United States".
I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean: is Linux less capable in Abu Dhabi than it is in the US? Are the results are reversed in the southern hemisphere? One might think that - if the study were conducted properly (big if) - the figures would remain proportional even after pricing for markets and conversion of currency (exchange rates).
How exactly do you know it's a fairy tale? You don't. (Neither do I for that matter.)
I send OO docs saved as DOC files to my boss all the time. He has never once complained.
Your boss is not a statistically significant sample set. If all you do is send very basic Word docs - paragraphs, bullets, etc. - then it makes sense that there wouldn't be an issue. The problems arise in more complicated formatting efforts and sometimes in longer documents (or both).
What OSS zealots fail to realize:
The point is that quite often in the World of Work (WoW), customers expect their documents to be FULLY functional. The customer is concerned about the content of the RFP response, contract verbiage, schedule, etc; if the document is a mess in Word because Zealot Boy insisted on using OO the customer will not be mollified by enthusiastic claims of OSS goodness. The organization will appear unprofessional and the now-former customer will find a vendor who has its collective act together.
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The story charts the awesome path SunnComm took from being an Elvis impersonator company
Okay, stop right there. -10 points for using 'awesome' and 'Elvis impersonator' in the same sentence.
Re: awesome: I do not think it means what you think it means.
to store all these implementations - some kind of repository.
I propose we call it the Kwiki-Mart.
You make it sound like there's a possibilty this exploit might work under one of the afore mentioned softwares' image processing libraries.
How exactly did I do that??? What part of
One cannot conclude that graphics-related processes/apps on Linux machines are vulnerable to this virus
gave you that impression??
* Eye of Gnome seemed to work okay, but I got all sorts of weird redraw problems when I tried to resize the window.
* Gimp (2.1) says the JPEG is unsupported and couldn't be imported by the filter, then segfaults.
* Konqueror seems to work okay, but just shows a tall black rectangle, and its spinner is still chugging away, as if it's still busy loading something.
* Firefox 0.9.3 has no troubles at all; it just shows a nice white rectangle on a white background
These programs are not vulnerable to the the exploit in the same way that Windows machines are vulnerable. In fact, the issues you saw appear to be in no way related to the intended result of the virus. GIMP's segfault seems to be the most serious of these, and it is still a minor problem. I believe all of your results can be achieved by opening a mangled/corrupted
Nutshell: One cannot conclude that graphics-related processes/apps on Linux machines are vulnerable to this virus.
PS Conclusions posited based on "unprofessional research and wild conjectures" are likely to cause much more harm than good. Is this really necessary? (not a flame - just an observation)
So, a high powered rifle at a distance is dangerous too and they let the ban on assault rifles run out contrary to campaign promises.
In your zeal and haste to invoke the 'assault rifle' bogeyman, you forgot one thing: the "high powered rifle at a distance" is called a hunting rifle with a scope. These firearms were not covered by the assault weapons ban, and were not restricted [any more than usual] during the ban period.
Assault rifles, OTOH, are generally used at shorter ranges where the target is visible without the need for optics (e.g. a scope).
To the rest of
Did you just stumble across this phrase or something???
In this thread you said and any true bearded terminal hacker would tell you as such. You then used the same phrase twice in the parent post:
All it takes is one bearded terminal hacker gone bad
Can we allow bearded terminal hackers to become judge, jury, and executioner
I don't often notice this sort of thing, but having just left the 'Solaris vs Linux Continues' thread the additional instances of the phrase stood out.
I do not think it means what you think it means.
When radio first became popular, I believe all stations were AM. When FM technology gained ground and passed AM, the AM market began to decrease. Currently talk radio is the primary reason for using AM, but since a lot of programs are available on AM and FM stations (often the AM will have an FM counterpart) there is a relatively small demand for AM these days. Adding parts/manufacturing expense - thus increasing the cost of the final product - to support AM is seen as a losing proposition (low to negative ROI for the PHBs in the audience).
I like AM. The signals propagate much further than FM, and late at night one can pull in AM stations from hundreds of miles away. However (for me) this is an amusing sidebar: the [lack of] support for AM wouldn't be a dealbreaker in the MP3 player purchase decisionmaking process.
One can already buy Compact Flash to ATA adapters to use CF cards as hard drives. There are two primary drawbacks to this approach at the moment:
CF cards tend to 'wear out' after a certain number of write cycles. Most estimates of lifespan range from 100K to 500K write cycles. (Working from memory - could be off a bit.)
CF cards cost more per MB than traditional magnetic/rotating media drives. The cost means that the largest currently available cards may not be practical for most applications. However, CF-to-ATA adapters are nifty options for single purpose systems and homebrew firewalls.
PS Go RTFA. Actually go read the Compact Flash FAQ and then go RTFA.
People tend to get excited about new products like these; in a separate but equally relevant phenomenon, they tend not to RTFA.
From the article:
Both chips, however, are prototypes. Companies just began this year to make chips on the 90-nanometer process. (The nanometer measurement refers to average feature sizes on the chips). Eighty-nanometer chips may not come for at least another year, and 65-nanometer chips won't debut until at least the end of 2005.
In other words, 16GB flash MP3 players will not be available in time for Xmas.
My cousin, brother, both sisters, guy down the street, Old Man Jenkins at the haunted amusement park....all are planning their own music download service.
I think Old Man Jenkins had the best plan. He would have succeeded, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids.
So for those who advocate the freedom to "see what I can see" take note of the small leap toward real criminal behavior....
Circumventing security measures (however weak) on someone else's system without permission is already real criminal behavior.
If something like a little WiFi+VoIP causes an piece of equipment to stop working then the equipment needs to be replaces/reengineered, because WiFi is here to stay and VoIP is gaining momentum, so it will have to be done sooner or later.
What you might not realize is that hospitals routinely use equipment for a very long time; a 20-30 year lifespan is not unusual for certain types of equipment. The mission of the hospital is to use what works, and they tend to rely on time-tested tools and technology. They will not toss everything because of some new (in their eyes) widget.
If you think wi-fi is necessary, I challenge you thusly: describe in ~25 words exactly which showstopping hospital problem will be solved by replacing/modifying any and all equipment that might be affected by 2.4GHz range RF. IOW, what benefits will they gain from wireless that will outweigh the expense of making the hospital wi-fi-friendly, particularly when their current equipment is still serviceable?
Palmyra Atoll is a thousand miles south of Hawaii, an untold distance from civilization.
I think you just told us.
you might want to look at one of the phrase books, usually available in the pocket dictionary form factor. It sounds like you have learned some of the Grammatik already, so you will actually understand the sentences once you get the Vokabeln down. The phrase books I have seen/used have sections for travel, restaurants, etc. - everyday situations one might face while in-country. I believe the Berlitz phrase books (vice their dictionaries) are for people who don't speak the language at all, and may do more harm than good if the translations aren't precise.
I haven't studied German for quite a few years, and I find that the grammar still makes sense but I have forgotten a lot of the vocabulary. D'oh.
Viel Glueck and viel Spass!
Langenscheidt, Oxford-Duden, and Berlitz (among others) publish small paperback Deutsche Worterbucher. The Langenscheidt version on Amazon.com is described as containing "55,000 references" while the Oxford-Duden has around 70,000 entries.
I was an exchange student in Germany *mumble* years ago and the Langenscheidt dictionary was extremely useful.
No, money down!
/I move for a bad... court... thingy.
Does he just throw his mother-in-law overboard with some sort of tether?
Why does he need the tether?
/ very lucky, has a great mother in law
He's plainly nuts, but I salute his cojones.
For some reason I got a chuckle out of this sentence.
motorcycle racers began using something called "tear-offs". (This may be an Oakley trademark - I'm not sure.) These were goggles that were overlaid with multiple layers of clear plastic across the eye area. When the goggles became covered in dust/mud, the rider could grab a tab and pull off the top layer, revealing the clean strip beneath - repeat as needed or until all the strips are gone.
There was another version that used two spools, like a film camera (remember those?). The rider pushed a button and a predetermined length of clear plastic would be wound on to the empty spindle, pulling a clean strip into the rider's field of vision. I never found out if the motor simply turned the receiving spindle N times or if there were markers on the strips themselves to shut off the motor. It seems like the "N rotations" model would be flawed, since the covering of dirt (especially mud) would change the thickness of the plastic strip and thus the effective radius of the receiving spindle, unnecessarily increasing the amount of new material used. Hmmm.
Anyway, re: your patent question - I think there is prior art.
e-had - a purely electronic holy war
i-had - much like an e-had, but it's portable
and had been told as much by his record label. He did not receive a denial and go "ahead with it anyway". Read this and get your facts straight before sounding off.
In fact, I'll make it easy for you; here is the relevant excerpt from the FAQ:
What about Coolio? I heard that he was upset with Al about "Amish Paradise."
That was a very unfortunate case of misunderstanding between Al's people and Coolio's people. Short version of the story: Al recorded "Amish Paradise" after being told by his record label that Coolio had given his permission for the parody. When Al's album came out, Coolio publicly contended that he had never given his blessing, and that he was in fact very offended by the song. To this day we're not exactly sure who got their facts wrong, but Al sincerely apologizes to Coolio for the misunderstanding.
You can read more about the organization here.
(Disclaimer - I was one of the early members of the organization.)
I hope it doesn't become a petulant and rebellious teenager - sleeping late, making people wait, grumbling about garbage collection, exploring promiscuous mode, ignoring quotas, etc.
Douglas Adams described the Vogons as "not being above bribery and corruption in the same way that the sea is not above the clouds" (something like that - I'm working from memory). For some odd reason that phrase popped into my head as I read the article.
Another interesting bit:
"...The results showed that IBM z900 mainframe running Linux is much less capable and vastly more expensive than Windows Server 2003 as a platform for server consolidation.*" The ASA said the asterisk linked to a footnote that said: "Results may vary outside the United States".
I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean: is Linux less capable in Abu Dhabi than it is in the US? Are the results are reversed in the southern hemisphere? One might think that - if the study were conducted properly (big if) - the figures would remain proportional even after pricing for markets and conversion of currency (exchange rates).
How exactly do you know it's a fairy tale? You don't. (Neither do I for that matter.)
I send OO docs saved as DOC files to my boss all the time. He has never once complained.
Your boss is not a statistically significant sample set. If all you do is send very basic Word docs - paragraphs, bullets, etc. - then it makes sense that there wouldn't be an issue. The problems arise in more complicated formatting efforts and sometimes in longer documents (or both).
What OSS zealots fail to realize:
The point is that quite often in the World of Work (WoW), customers expect their documents to be FULLY functional. The customer is concerned about the content of the RFP response, contract verbiage, schedule, etc; if the document is a mess in Word because Zealot Boy insisted on using OO the customer will not be mollified by enthusiastic claims of OSS goodness. The organization will appear unprofessional and the now-former customer will find a vendor who has its collective act together.