You don't really think your grandmother wants to spend weeks learning how to read her email on Linux do you? If they just want normal day-to-day tasks, like reading email or the latest news, go with Windows -- there's nothing wrong with that.
Why does it takes weeks to learn to read email? I put my Mother on Linux a few years ago after numerous crapware infections of her Windows machine. She uses it daily for web browsing, email and ICQ/MSN chat. She is not a tech-savvy user at all, and it took one session to show her how to accomplish her basic tasks. I installed the OS and set up her existing dialup, email and chat accounts for her.
Before you go me for setting up her machine, how does the Grandma you speak of install the OS, comnfigure her dialup connection, and get her email working? Either someone does it for her, or she uses the CD that the ISP sent her most likely. The OS your Grandma is using came pre-installed too, didn't it?
Putting the basic user (www, email, chat) on a windows desktop or a linux desktop makes no difference one it has been setup correctly.
BTW, her machine has not been hacked or had a single case of software being installed on her machine since using Linux. It just works. I cannot say the same thing for her previous Windows machine.
The trick is finding one that leaves the patient alive
Well, the crocodile is alive with it in its body, and it kills HIV so it could be a good place to start... much better than bleach! No, they won't be able to just inject crocodile serum into humans to kill HIV, but science may learn something from this. No learning, means no problems solved. Don't you find it the least but interesting?
You could look at it that way. I prefer to think about how much code Google have contributed back to Linux to help make it faster, more flexible and more stable. This in turn helps make Linux more attractive to purchase *preloaded* on a server a company may want to purchase.
Also, the $35bn figure is probably referring to the projected total spent on server sales that ship with Linux, not on the distro's and support alone. Do MS server sales with MS OSes on them only count the OS price? I think not.
It's just an indicator of how widespead it has become, not an exact number of users. What do you want, registered user downloads only? Would that make you happy?
BTW, congrats to the Firefox team on an excellent browser that works beautifully on all my Linux machines (that have a desktop) and my work PC:)
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Why?
1. You are locked into a single vendor
2. Want to upgrade your desktop? That'll cost you. Thanks very much
3. What if someone produces a better desktop GUI? I switch GUI's every few months as improvements are made. Sometimes I just want something small and sweet like Fluxbox, othertimes KDE for some eye candy
4. Not all development work requires a GUI. Even if it does, the logic should be seperate, not built into the GUI itself (Visual Basic anyone?). This allow the choice of GUI to become a seperate issue. You can use web, cli, GUI.... whatever:)
5. Your window manager won't start? Thats a tradgedy under MS Windows as well as a Mac (OK, not as bad on the Mac). Under Linux I can just choose another window manager until I sort my problem out.
6. Bah... thats enough for now.
I encouraged my Fiance to get an iBook as her latest machine, mainly so there wasn't a MS machine in the house. We still don't have *any* MS machines;) The Mac is quite pretty and quite nice to use, but whenever I use it I always find myself wishing I was back on one of my Linux machines.
You might like the Mac, thats fine by me. Choice is good thing as it helps drive improvement. Competition improves the breed. Myself... I like the flexibility to have my machines the way I want them, not the way some company wants them.
Why would a company not want to offer AMD as an option? I would put money on it that Intel are offering incredible deals to Dell as long as they don't ship Intel.
One company I work for wants AMD 64, so Dell are losing a rather large customer.
They could always have a go at invading us Aussies like they do with everyone else they get pissy at. I'll get more concerned when they accuse us of hosting WMD's and being an enemy of freedom.
Wah wah. Someone has hurt me. I'll sit right here and hope they don't do it again. John Law will be here to help me soon...
The law is a little way behind technology. On the few places it does seem to have a handle on it, the legal system is still too slow to respond. Ever seen a website DOS-ed out of existence..? Where was the law then?
You hit me, I'll hit you right back, plus a little extra.
"how do you define all of the costs associated with something that has never been done before and has extremely difficult engineering problems that have to be solved at various interim steps in your process."
Shouldn't the unknown issues be addressed as part of an R&D process? If you don't know how long it takes to solve a problem, as well as what resources (hardware, network etc) are needed, how can you possibly budget and estimate? Correct answer is you can't. These unknowns become major risks.
Part of the project should be investigating the unknowns, checking viability. Funding could be allocated to R&D to see if these problems can be solved. If the problem can't be solved (technology doesn't exist yet?) the project would be a failure to begin with (read entire budget down the toilet). If the problem can be solved, estimates can be made with some accuracy.
As far as how much processing power is needed to simulate the brain, I've met quite a few people for whom a C64 and a tape drive would be more than sufficient... and maybe some duct tape.
Now, if only they would add "jerking off" and "reading slashdot instead of actually working" to the job descriptions, imagine the flood of applications?
Good guess huh? Don't worry, it wasn't that difficult. Your self centered view of the world gave it away regarding where you are from:)
And now, to top it all off, you have the front to call anyone with a negative response to your post "insensitive fucking clods"
Yep, the USA has traditionally had more internet uses than anywhere else. But guess what? You're not the only ones out there. The GST issue might not interest you at all. I'm an Aussie and it barely interests me to tell you the truth. But if I find an article that grabs my interest in some way, I might just be willing to search for more detail if needed.
Methinks that the international nature of the/. audience needs to be considered before posting new items
Pff.. the rest of the world should only post comments that relate to the good old USA maybe? What about if someone posts about VAT? Do all Aussies naturally know about the xth Ammendment?
To you and I, they are very impressive multimillion dollar pretty pictures.
To the scientists that will study these pictures, I am sure there is much that can be learned from these pictures. And if not from these pics then maybe then next ones...
I didn't say it was a good thing, just putting their statement in perspective. MS are saying their customers are indemnified, not that they don't infringe on patents, which is entirely different.
I don't use MS personally, so I couldn't care less what happens to them.
By indemnified, I believe they mean that their customers will not be sued by other companies for using MS products. MS would be sued, and be required to pay up or make the required changes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no MS fanboy, but lets be clear about it. I don't think any company can safely claim to be 100% in the clear when it comes to patents. Not in the world we live in...
Slashdot Mirror
It doesn't run Linux, it only trundles along at 1km/h.
;)
Wonder how long until it will be before some pervert tries to get root on it though?
Seriously though, this is quite cool. Maybe not totally useful (it's just a big PDA!), but still cool.
You don't really think your grandmother wants to spend weeks learning how to read her email on Linux do you? If they just want normal day-to-day tasks, like reading email or the latest news, go with Windows -- there's nothing wrong with that.
Why does it takes weeks to learn to read email? I put my Mother on Linux a few years ago after numerous crapware infections of her Windows machine. She uses it daily for web browsing, email and ICQ/MSN chat. She is not a tech-savvy user at all, and it took one session to show her how to accomplish her basic tasks. I installed the OS and set up her existing dialup, email and chat accounts for her.
Before you go me for setting up her machine, how does the Grandma you speak of install the OS, comnfigure her dialup connection, and get her email working? Either someone does it for her, or she uses the CD that the ISP sent her most likely. The OS your Grandma is using came pre-installed too, didn't it?
Putting the basic user (www, email, chat) on a windows desktop or a linux desktop makes no difference one it has been setup correctly.
BTW, her machine has not been hacked or had a single case of software being installed on her machine since using Linux. It just works. I cannot say the same thing for her previous Windows machine.
The trick is finding one that leaves the patient alive
Well, the crocodile is alive with it in its body, and it kills HIV so it could be a good place to start... much better than bleach! No, they won't be able to just inject crocodile serum into humans to kill HIV, but science may learn something from this. No learning, means no problems solved. Don't you find it the least but interesting?
You could look at it that way. I prefer to think about how much code Google have contributed back to Linux to help make it faster, more flexible and more stable. This in turn helps make Linux more attractive to purchase *preloaded* on a server a company may want to purchase.
Also, the $35bn figure is probably referring to the projected total spent on server sales that ship with Linux, not on the distro's and support alone. Do MS server sales with MS OSes on them only count the OS price? I think not.
Sounds like a profile problem, maybe due to a broken plugin.
p s.html#manage
http://users.tns.net/~skingery/firefox/firefox_ti
You can copy the bookmarks.html file back later...
It's just an indicator of how widespead it has become, not an exact number of users. What do you want, registered user downloads only? Would that make you happy?
:)
BTW, congrats to the Firefox team on an excellent browser that works beautifully on all my Linux machines (that have a desktop) and my work PC
Why?
:)
;) The Mac is quite pretty and quite nice to use, but whenever I use it I always find myself wishing I was back on one of my Linux machines.
1. You are locked into a single vendor
2. Want to upgrade your desktop? That'll cost you. Thanks very much
3. What if someone produces a better desktop GUI? I switch GUI's every few months as improvements are made. Sometimes I just want something small and sweet like Fluxbox, othertimes KDE for some eye candy
4. Not all development work requires a GUI. Even if it does, the logic should be seperate, not built into the GUI itself (Visual Basic anyone?). This allow the choice of GUI to become a seperate issue. You can use web, cli, GUI.... whatever
5. Your window manager won't start? Thats a tradgedy under MS Windows as well as a Mac (OK, not as bad on the Mac). Under Linux I can just choose another window manager until I sort my problem out.
6. Bah... thats enough for now.
I encouraged my Fiance to get an iBook as her latest machine, mainly so there wasn't a MS machine in the house. We still don't have *any* MS machines
You might like the Mac, thats fine by me. Choice is good thing as it helps drive improvement. Competition improves the breed. Myself... I like the flexibility to have my machines the way I want them, not the way some company wants them.
Anyone that claims open source is entirely free of bugs is dreaming and/or misinformed.
The beautiful part is the speed at which critical bugs in OSS are corrected after being discovered.
Why would a company not want to offer AMD as an option? I would put money on it that Intel are offering incredible deals to Dell as long as they don't ship Intel.
One company I work for wants AMD 64, so Dell are losing a rather large customer.
They could always have a go at invading us Aussies like they do with everyone else they get pissy at. I'll get more concerned when they accuse us of hosting WMD's and being an enemy of freedom.
Wah wah. Someone has hurt me. I'll sit right here and hope they don't do it again. John Law will be here to help me soon...
The law is a little way behind technology. On the few places it does seem to have a handle on it, the legal system is still too slow to respond. Ever seen a website DOS-ed out of existence..? Where was the law then?
You hit me, I'll hit you right back, plus a little extra.
I bet you drive a red sports car as well
"how do you define all of the costs associated with something that has never been done before and has extremely difficult engineering problems that have to be solved at various interim steps in your process."
Shouldn't the unknown issues be addressed as part of an R&D process? If you don't know how long it takes to solve a problem, as well as what resources (hardware, network etc) are needed, how can you possibly budget and estimate? Correct answer is you can't. These unknowns become major risks.
Part of the project should be investigating the unknowns, checking viability. Funding could be allocated to R&D to see if these problems can be solved. If the problem can't be solved (technology doesn't exist yet?) the project would be a failure to begin with (read entire budget down the toilet). If the problem can be solved, estimates can be made with some accuracy.
As far as how much processing power is needed to simulate the brain, I've met quite a few people for whom a C64 and a tape drive would be more than sufficient... and maybe some duct tape.
Now, if only they would add "jerking off" and "reading slashdot instead of actually working" to the job descriptions, imagine the flood of applications?
:)
Sorry, I just could not resist
"It's dead Jim..."
Good guess huh? Don't worry, it wasn't that difficult. Your self centered view of the world gave it away regarding where you are from :)
And now, to top it all off, you have the front to call anyone with a negative response to your post "insensitive fucking clods"
Yep, the USA has traditionally had more internet uses than anywhere else. But guess what? You're not the only ones out there. The GST issue might not interest you at all. I'm an Aussie and it barely interests me to tell you the truth. But if I find an article that grabs my interest in some way, I might just be willing to search for more detail if needed.
Insensitive clods indeed...
Methinks that the international nature of the /. audience needs to be considered before posting new items
Pff.. the rest of the world should only post comments that relate to the good old USA maybe? What about if someone posts about VAT? Do all Aussies naturally know about the xth Ammendment?
MS Word being able to open and save as OO.org format would truly suck...
:)
MS would change it just enough so that OO.org couldn't open it correctly, AKA embracing and extending the format
Wow, you're right...
:)
It does sound crazy
mplayer :)
To you and I, they are very impressive multimillion dollar pretty pictures.
To the scientists that will study these pictures, I am sure there is much that can be learned from these pictures. And if not from these pics then maybe then next ones...
This works on my Gentoo box as well
I didn't say it was a good thing, just putting their statement in perspective. MS are saying their customers are indemnified, not that they don't infringe on patents, which is entirely different.
I don't use MS personally, so I couldn't care less what happens to them.
By indemnified, I believe they mean that their customers will not be sued by other companies for using MS products. MS would be sued, and be required to pay up or make the required changes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no MS fanboy, but lets be clear about it. I don't think any company can safely claim to be 100% in the clear when it comes to patents. Not in the world we live in...