It's not about averting disaster. No one really cares about that after a point. What they want is a human to blame it on so everyone can feel better afterwards.
It has nothing to do with them being "black savages", but thanks for bringing race into it. It's funny, because it's absurd. Did you laugh at Pulp Fiction? Oh, you're an asshole. Or maybe you just don't appreciate dark comedy. "That's a movie!" ? I've laughed at situations that hurt me and almost got me killed due the situation's aburdity. That's because I have this thing some people refer to as a "sense of humor".
So, yes, it's funny. I'm still chuckling at some of these posts. And guess what, I'm in full agreeance with the people saying the monkies should be shot. They should be, beyond a doubt in my eyes. I'd have done it way before now were I in their position and had the means.
Wilziak was funny too, despite its naysayer. I'd be laughing my ass off as the whale began his doomed journey to the moon while I tried my damnedest to save him.
Anyhow, if it makes you feel good about yourself to be everyone's Jimminy Cricket knock yourself out, but here's your "wet blanket": your moral diatribe doesn't do a damn thing for the poor people you're referring to. Life sucks doesn't it? Feel better?
You can't escape the origin issue. Religion tosses it off by saying their god(s) are supernatural and outside of causality. Science doesn't solve the issue with abiogenesis. Further past organic life, you're still left with matter. Then you're left with energy.
Everyone suffers from the origin problem.
Calling someone a moron is over the top. However, it is annoying when you work in a Windows only world, and when something non-Windows of yours screws up, it's because it's not Windows. "I'm having trouble connecting to our VPN." "Must be a mac thing." " We don't support Apple." etc. It seems everywhere I go this is the pat answer I get, and they get annoyed when my response is: That's nice, but you see, I just tried in OS X on my laptop, Windows XP on my laptop, and Windows Mobile on my cell phone. Is there any configuration you do support?
I was discussing this with one of the ATT reps the other day actually. I think the lack of 3G is a calculated move on Apple's part. I have a 3G phone now with ATT, and the service is insanely bad. I don't think the lack of 3G is due to a lack of 3G coverage so much as the usability of 3G with ATT currently is awful enough to make you want to pull out your hair. (I'll blame my loss of hair on that.) The thing with 3G that I've noticed is: it can't hand off correctly. At least however ATT does it (I don't know how it's supposed to work). My phone switches back and forth from EDGE to 3G sitting at my desk at work. I take a call... it drops randomly (fewest dropped calls... gotta love it...). My signal bar goes to 0 and the phone switches networks. I wound up having to keep it on EDGE as standard and only switch to the 3G network when I wanted to use the phone as a modem. (And I needed a program that made that a reasonable solution.) You could tell me it's the phone, but then I'd just tell you it's a Cingular branded phone (an HTC).
I think Apple, if faced with bleeding edge or solid, is going to pick solid. That just seems to be their MO, and I don't blame them. I've been telling myself that I don't want the iPhone due to the lack of 3G, but in reality, 3G has been the biggest headache since I started using it. And God help you when you call ATT support about anything network/data related. They know less than I do (and that's saying something). They should read the Cingular wiki to get a better idea of what services they offer.
The day I can hook a baby up to my router for extra on the fly storage... well, that will one great day. Babies have a much greater WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) than electronics. It's a win/win!
You're so right! It makes so much sense!
I'm going to start making bombs that look like... lightbulbs, a vacuum cleaner, forks.... muffins!
Then you can go around with a police escort whenever you leave your little 10x10 padded cell yay!
Your logic has shown me the way. (Thank god you brought kids into it, because I had almost misse the point. You probably shouldn't let them leave the cell until their adults. It only sounds like an over-reaction until one of them explodes!)
I think Apple made a good decision with keeping out 3G actually. At least if they're rolling the phone out soon. I've had HORRIBLE exprerience with the 3G network of Cingular down here in south florida (boca raton area). Like... I can't make phones calls 75% of the time (being forgiving with that number... i actually expected my calls to not go through). The phone (Cing 8525... or tytn... or hermes... whatever you want to call it... it's an HTC...) would either beep at me thrice or I would get a "All lines are currently busy" message... all the time. I eventually installed a program that allows me to turn off 3G support... which allows me to make calls. When I want to use the internet, I turn it back on. Customers aren't going to want to do that, and they shouldn't be expected to. And when the phone has these problems, fingers are going to be pointed at Cingular and Apple... EDGE pretty much always works... at least as much as cell phone networks ever do.
Is it slow? Definitely. But, at least it isn't infuriatingly buggy. You can check email fine through EDGE, though I hated browsing the web for it. The only reason I haven't demanded my money back for my current phone is, quite frankly, I bought it more for the ability to use it as a modem than I did to have a phone... I'm not much for phones. However, phone works great on EDGE. iPhone will work great on EDGE. If Cingular ever fixes their 3G network, the new version of the iPhone will have 3G. Simple as that.
Slow news day indeed... this was brought quite some time ago earlier than November and talked about in a book recommended by a fellow slashdotter in the same article post: Parasite Rex (which I loved).
Thank you... I hear this all the time in political/religious discussions. "Well, X side spreads so many lies, we're at a disadvantage, so if we exaggerate from time to time, it's ok because it balances out!"
Balances out? How about instead of the world coming down to their side or your side, it comes down to what's true and what isn't true?? And if so, how is putting out even more false information balancing anything out?
And if that isn't working... quite frankly, if you're the underdog, participating in falsifying information is especially risky from a pragmatic point of view. Why break the status quo to adopt the thinking of someone you've caught repeatedly lying/exaggerating to you? Cynicism and the idea that you can't trust any side generally seems to eventually beat people down into just accepting the status quo: which is not you.
at least in south Florida (Boynton Beach / Boca Raton area). I rarely get dropped calls (if by rare you accept one a week...)
Of course, what they don't tell you is, they don't drop calls... aaaand... they don't let you make them to begin with! See?? That's not dropping a call... that's blocking a call... totally different:D
In my case, almost every single day when I get off of work I attempt to call family members and I either get a "all circuits are busy" message (seriously) or sometimes the computer generated voice gets lazy and I get an odd beep beep from my phone and nothing happens. This is regardless of my signal, and to be honest, my signal isn't exactly rock solid either. It comes and goes in waves... quite interesting.
I don't think most people are shocked at what the moderator action is to any one of their particular posts. This is why some people preface what they are about to say with, "Mod me as you will...", or "I know I'll burn karma for this but...". People know.
Yah, but how often to they actually wind up with the moderation they implied they'd get? The statements are made, because people know beforehand their opinions aren't taken well. It's a way of saying "I'm about to piss you off, but let m explain my point before you decide to e-castrate me." That's different than what the article is talking about which is just a total misinterpretation of tone.
As someone said, random statements demonstrate nothing. Tone is something you get better at as you get to know someone, and some people are naturally better at picking up on tone. It's also more easily determined when placed in context of other statements.
I'm not really sure becoming a "better writer" is going to help much here. Even good writers get their tones confused by others. I've heard many professor give previous writings as a justification of interpretation, because intent/tone couldn't be ascertained from the writing itself.
The only interesting thing I took from the article is that they actually thought 80% of the recipients would pick up on the correct tone of a single statement the sender didn't even come up with received from someone they might not even have known. *shrug*
I was told by... someone... can't even remember now (how's that for official?) that such earbuds can increase ear infections over time, and that can lead to hearing loss. I'd be more likely to buy that than volume level at least. Most people I know listen to their music on earbuds way to loud imo. I generally always have to turn it down when I listen to someone elses player.
Maybe I'm just apathetic... but it's college. If, at this stage in the game, they get all their opinions from their professors, it's too late for them. The news will do the same. As long as it doesn't get in the way of the course material (in the few classes on government I've had, I don't see how radical doctrine would even apply to the subject matter... how about getting teachers to stop wasting students' time?), I don't see the big deal.
By your argument, people murdering other people isn't news either. However, something being commonplace shouldn't necessarily make it unnewsworthy. Whether or not corporations lie, cheat, and steal is a common ho hum thing, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable for it. Your view makes it easier for them to get away with such things.
Lowering the expectations of the people you serve is an easy way to success. Thanks for helping make that possible:)
Down here it's the opposite. You walk out of a classroom (kept at about 68F going by feel alone), your glasses instantly fog in the humid 95F air, and a sheen of water collects over all your electronics.
Everyone knows all this stuff (or rather anyone with a half a brain). You're not educating people; you're showing them something they already know and they're realizing it's easier to look shocked and pat you on the back than to do anything else like say... ask about your current inability to vote.
You will always be objectified. There's nothing you can do about it, and your fellow women (since we're all teams now) tend to make that battle an uphill one for you. Hell, I've been objectified and that never ceases to amaze me. People think we're sex craved uncommuncative pigs who want no connection that doesn't involve the genitals. All because we're guys. Boo hoo.
As to work discrimination, I'd be right along side you fighting with you on that one. For anyone. It's definitely swung in the men's favor, but it would just easy be the opposite had things turned out differently earlier in our history. One of my teachers in college (the head of the department) was a female chauvanist pig. It was obvious and admitted by other female teachers. It's nice for people to think you're substandard just for your gender... oh... wait...
We got over it and fought it when it affected out schoolwork. (Well there was her yang that told her women should be in the kitchen getting his dinner ready... that was quite an interesting altercation:)
It's a study. One study. I'm sure it will have a ton of little issues than can be interrpreted in many different ways. There's no reason to make a huge deal about it other than express rational skepticism
I do agree with whoever pointed out that, had this been reversed, I wouldn't be shocked at all to find that men didn't argue yet the everyday man would never hear the end of it. I'd be even more shocked if there was an apologetic tone to the article.
Yah, I agree with this. I think it has less to do with crappy movies (cause lets face it, most movies are and have always been crap) and more to do with crappy theatres. Most of the people in my family have really good to moderately good home theatre systems. The picture at theatres has sucked for ages, and the sound isn't any better than most surround systems I've been around; it's just louder. That's easy to fix at home.
Then there's the other movie goers. They talk... younger teens like to laugh at inappropriate places to seem cool... cell phones... people sitting in front of you if you don't have stadium seating... people kicking your chair... people putting their feet on your chair or the chair next to yours...
I used to go to theatres alot back when I was with my ex, but that was just to do something different than sit at home all night (we sat somewhere else!) Now I have a love/hate relationship with the theatres. I want to go, but when I do, I tend to not enjoy myself for above reasons. All the people problems weren't as much as an issue when the sound was comparitively good and the picture was so big. Now, when I look at the picture, all I think about is all the scratches on it.
Forgot to add... even if it were cheaper and/or better quality, I still wouldn't go for anything with DRM. I make mix CDs all the time, and I don't like someone telling me where I can play my own damn music that I paid for. That's begging people to download music illegally, always has been, and always will be.
Provided you've got the cash means to do it, there's not really any excuse for not using "officially sanctioned", paid-for, download sources.
Yah there is. I still don't use things like iTunes for music, because I want lossless files. I'm paying more per song because I'm not getting all the extra crap (which I admittedly don't want) but also not getting the same quality. Crappy deal to those of us that care.
I generally buy used CDs. I keep a running list of about 20 pages on my Amazon wish list. When something goes down to $5 or lower and is in at least "very good" condition, I buy it.
Every now and then I'll get something from allofmp3, and when I do, it's always a lossless file. The online music business is moving forward, but it still has a good way to go.
I have yet to find a bluetooth mouse that actually works well. Apple's bluetooth mouse works decently. Macmice's The Mouse BT doesn't work very well at all. (I'm talking about simple tracking here.) The other bluetooth mouse I tried (bluetake I believe) worked pretty good but the left button broke after three days. I have yet to be impressed with a bluetooth mouse.
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Thanks for not reading my whole post :) *clap*
It's not about averting disaster. No one really cares about that after a point. What they want is a human to blame it on so everyone can feel better afterwards.
It has nothing to do with them being "black savages", but thanks for bringing race into it. It's funny, because it's absurd. Did you laugh at Pulp Fiction? Oh, you're an asshole. Or maybe you just don't appreciate dark comedy. "That's a movie!" ? I've laughed at situations that hurt me and almost got me killed due the situation's aburdity. That's because I have this thing some people refer to as a "sense of humor".
So, yes, it's funny. I'm still chuckling at some of these posts. And guess what, I'm in full agreeance with the people saying the monkies should be shot. They should be, beyond a doubt in my eyes. I'd have done it way before now were I in their position and had the means.
Wilziak was funny too, despite its naysayer. I'd be laughing my ass off as the whale began his doomed journey to the moon while I tried my damnedest to save him.
Anyhow, if it makes you feel good about yourself to be everyone's Jimminy Cricket knock yourself out, but here's your "wet blanket": your moral diatribe doesn't do a damn thing for the poor people you're referring to. Life sucks doesn't it? Feel better?
If we could only convince the luddites it's ALL porn... then it'd stand a chance.
You can't escape the origin issue. Religion tosses it off by saying their god(s) are supernatural and outside of causality. Science doesn't solve the issue with abiogenesis. Further past organic life, you're still left with matter. Then you're left with energy. Everyone suffers from the origin problem.
Calling someone a moron is over the top. However, it is annoying when you work in a Windows only world, and when something non-Windows of yours screws up, it's because it's not Windows. "I'm having trouble connecting to our VPN." "Must be a mac thing." " We don't support Apple." etc. It seems everywhere I go this is the pat answer I get, and they get annoyed when my response is: That's nice, but you see, I just tried in OS X on my laptop, Windows XP on my laptop, and Windows Mobile on my cell phone. Is there any configuration you do support?
I was discussing this with one of the ATT reps the other day actually. I think the lack of 3G is a calculated move on Apple's part. I have a 3G phone now with ATT, and the service is insanely bad. I don't think the lack of 3G is due to a lack of 3G coverage so much as the usability of 3G with ATT currently is awful enough to make you want to pull out your hair. (I'll blame my loss of hair on that.) The thing with 3G that I've noticed is: it can't hand off correctly. At least however ATT does it (I don't know how it's supposed to work). My phone switches back and forth from EDGE to 3G sitting at my desk at work. I take a call... it drops randomly (fewest dropped calls... gotta love it...). My signal bar goes to 0 and the phone switches networks. I wound up having to keep it on EDGE as standard and only switch to the 3G network when I wanted to use the phone as a modem. (And I needed a program that made that a reasonable solution.) You could tell me it's the phone, but then I'd just tell you it's a Cingular branded phone (an HTC).
I think Apple, if faced with bleeding edge or solid, is going to pick solid. That just seems to be their MO, and I don't blame them. I've been telling myself that I don't want the iPhone due to the lack of 3G, but in reality, 3G has been the biggest headache since I started using it. And God help you when you call ATT support about anything network/data related. They know less than I do (and that's saying something). They should read the Cingular wiki to get a better idea of what services they offer.
Don't you call those... babies?
The day I can hook a baby up to my router for extra on the fly storage... well, that will one great day. Babies have a much greater WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) than electronics. It's a win/win!
You're so right! It makes so much sense! I'm going to start making bombs that look like... lightbulbs, a vacuum cleaner, forks.... muffins! Then you can go around with a police escort whenever you leave your little 10x10 padded cell yay! Your logic has shown me the way. (Thank god you brought kids into it, because I had almost misse the point. You probably shouldn't let them leave the cell until their adults. It only sounds like an over-reaction until one of them explodes!)
I just thought it was what they referred to the whole windows update process as. It sure feels like you need to be immortal to make it through that :-/
I think Apple made a good decision with keeping out 3G actually. At least if they're rolling the phone out soon. I've had HORRIBLE exprerience with the 3G network of Cingular down here in south florida (boca raton area). Like... I can't make phones calls 75% of the time (being forgiving with that number... i actually expected my calls to not go through). The phone (Cing 8525... or tytn... or hermes... whatever you want to call it... it's an HTC...) would either beep at me thrice or I would get a "All lines are currently busy" message... all the time. I eventually installed a program that allows me to turn off 3G support... which allows me to make calls. When I want to use the internet, I turn it back on. Customers aren't going to want to do that, and they shouldn't be expected to. And when the phone has these problems, fingers are going to be pointed at Cingular and Apple... EDGE pretty much always works... at least as much as cell phone networks ever do.
Is it slow? Definitely. But, at least it isn't infuriatingly buggy. You can check email fine through EDGE, though I hated browsing the web for it. The only reason I haven't demanded my money back for my current phone is, quite frankly, I bought it more for the ability to use it as a modem than I did to have a phone... I'm not much for phones. However, phone works great on EDGE. iPhone will work great on EDGE. If Cingular ever fixes their 3G network, the new version of the iPhone will have 3G. Simple as that.
Slow news day indeed... this was brought quite some time ago earlier than November and talked about in a book recommended by a fellow slashdotter in the same article post: Parasite Rex (which I loved).
Thank you... I hear this all the time in political/religious discussions. "Well, X side spreads so many lies, we're at a disadvantage, so if we exaggerate from time to time, it's ok because it balances out!"
Balances out? How about instead of the world coming down to their side or your side, it comes down to what's true and what isn't true?? And if so, how is putting out even more false information balancing anything out?
And if that isn't working... quite frankly, if you're the underdog, participating in falsifying information is especially risky from a pragmatic point of view. Why break the status quo to adopt the thinking of someone you've caught repeatedly lying/exaggerating to you? Cynicism and the idea that you can't trust any side generally seems to eventually beat people down into just accepting the status quo: which is not you.
at least in south Florida (Boynton Beach / Boca Raton area). I rarely get dropped calls (if by rare you accept one a week...)
Of course, what they don't tell you is, they don't drop calls... aaaand... they don't let you make them to begin with! See?? That's not dropping a call... that's blocking a call... totally different :D
In my case, almost every single day when I get off of work I attempt to call family members and I either get a "all circuits are busy" message (seriously) or sometimes the computer generated voice gets lazy and I get an odd beep beep from my phone and nothing happens. This is regardless of my signal, and to be honest, my signal isn't exactly rock solid either. It comes and goes in waves... quite interesting.
Is it just me or is calling something "religion" becoming the new calling something "nazi"?
I don't think most people are shocked at what the moderator action is to any one of their particular posts. This is why some people preface what they are about to say with, "Mod me as you will...", or "I know I'll burn karma for this but...". People know.
Yah, but how often to they actually wind up with the moderation they implied they'd get? The statements are made, because people know beforehand their opinions aren't taken well. It's a way of saying "I'm about to piss you off, but let m explain my point before you decide to e-castrate me." That's different than what the article is talking about which is just a total misinterpretation of tone.
As someone said, random statements demonstrate nothing. Tone is something you get better at as you get to know someone, and some people are naturally better at picking up on tone. It's also more easily determined when placed in context of other statements.
I'm not really sure becoming a "better writer" is going to help much here. Even good writers get their tones confused by others. I've heard many professor give previous writings as a justification of interpretation, because intent/tone couldn't be ascertained from the writing itself.
The only interesting thing I took from the article is that they actually thought 80% of the recipients would pick up on the correct tone of a single statement the sender didn't even come up with received from someone they might not even have known. *shrug*
I was told by... someone... can't even remember now (how's that for official?) that such earbuds can increase ear infections over time, and that can lead to hearing loss. I'd be more likely to buy that than volume level at least. Most people I know listen to their music on earbuds way to loud imo. I generally always have to turn it down when I listen to someone elses player.
Maybe I'm just apathetic... but it's college. If, at this stage in the game, they get all their opinions from their professors, it's too late for them. The news will do the same. As long as it doesn't get in the way of the course material (in the few classes on government I've had, I don't see how radical doctrine would even apply to the subject matter... how about getting teachers to stop wasting students' time?), I don't see the big deal.
By your argument, people murdering other people isn't news either. However, something being commonplace shouldn't necessarily make it unnewsworthy. Whether or not corporations lie, cheat, and steal is a common ho hum thing, it doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable for it. Your view makes it easier for them to get away with such things.
Lowering the expectations of the people you serve is an easy way to success. Thanks for helping make that possible :)
Down here it's the opposite. You walk out of a classroom (kept at about 68F going by feel alone), your glasses instantly fog in the humid 95F air, and a sheen of water collects over all your electronics.
Everyone knows all this stuff (or rather anyone with a half a brain). You're not educating people; you're showing them something they already know and they're realizing it's easier to look shocked and pat you on the back than to do anything else like say... ask about your current inability to vote.
You will always be objectified. There's nothing you can do about it, and your fellow women (since we're all teams now) tend to make that battle an uphill one for you. Hell, I've been objectified and that never ceases to amaze me. People think we're sex craved uncommuncative pigs who want no connection that doesn't involve the genitals. All because we're guys. Boo hoo.
As to work discrimination, I'd be right along side you fighting with you on that one. For anyone. It's definitely swung in the men's favor, but it would just easy be the opposite had things turned out differently earlier in our history. One of my teachers in college (the head of the department) was a female chauvanist pig. It was obvious and admitted by other female teachers. It's nice for people to think you're substandard just for your gender... oh... wait...
We got over it and fought it when it affected out schoolwork. (Well there was her yang that told her women should be in the kitchen getting his dinner ready... that was quite an interesting altercation :)
It's a study. One study. I'm sure it will have a ton of little issues than can be interrpreted in many different ways. There's no reason to make a huge deal about it other than express rational skepticism
I do agree with whoever pointed out that, had this been reversed, I wouldn't be shocked at all to find that men didn't argue yet the everyday man would never hear the end of it. I'd be even more shocked if there was an apologetic tone to the article.
Yah, I agree with this. I think it has less to do with crappy movies (cause lets face it, most movies are and have always been crap) and more to do with crappy theatres. Most of the people in my family have really good to moderately good home theatre systems. The picture at theatres has sucked for ages, and the sound isn't any better than most surround systems I've been around; it's just louder. That's easy to fix at home.
Then there's the other movie goers. They talk... younger teens like to laugh at inappropriate places to seem cool... cell phones... people sitting in front of you if you don't have stadium seating... people kicking your chair... people putting their feet on your chair or the chair next to yours...
I used to go to theatres alot back when I was with my ex, but that was just to do something different than sit at home all night (we sat somewhere else!) Now I have a love/hate relationship with the theatres. I want to go, but when I do, I tend to not enjoy myself for above reasons. All the people problems weren't as much as an issue when the sound was comparitively good and the picture was so big. Now, when I look at the picture, all I think about is all the scratches on it.
Forgot to add... even if it were cheaper and/or better quality, I still wouldn't go for anything with DRM. I make mix CDs all the time, and I don't like someone telling me where I can play my own damn music that I paid for. That's begging people to download music illegally, always has been, and always will be.
Provided you've got the cash means to do it, there's not really any excuse for not using "officially sanctioned", paid-for, download sources.
Yah there is. I still don't use things like iTunes for music, because I want lossless files. I'm paying more per song because I'm not getting all the extra crap (which I admittedly don't want) but also not getting the same quality. Crappy deal to those of us that care.
I generally buy used CDs. I keep a running list of about 20 pages on my Amazon wish list. When something goes down to $5 or lower and is in at least "very good" condition, I buy it.
Every now and then I'll get something from allofmp3, and when I do, it's always a lossless file. The online music business is moving forward, but it still has a good way to go.
I have yet to find a bluetooth mouse that actually works well. Apple's bluetooth mouse works decently. Macmice's The Mouse BT doesn't work very well at all. (I'm talking about simple tracking here.) The other bluetooth mouse I tried (bluetake I believe) worked pretty good but the left button broke after three days. I have yet to be impressed with a bluetooth mouse.
Any recommendations?