A big problem, Medical tech market stinks, monopolies, no real standards that work 100%, no open source, no real interconnectivity that works well. They still use fax in many places its so bad.
We got the big monopoly megacorp EPIC that uses its per user fee and dominance as a stranglehold on medical records. Not part of a network, ok, we can FAX you the information. WTF...
The reason the US pays so much, we have too many middle men that are charging for everything rising the costs, there's no low cost open source solutions for everything, but the companies use TONS of opensource middle themselves.
A leading cause for expensive software, government regulations have to be devloped into existing medical software. If you pass a bill, that costs is going somewhere, new revisions, some vendors own most of the market, book, expensive upgrades, end user is gonna pay for it with higher medical insurance paying for it.
Exactly, He didn't even need to be born in Hawaii, born to 1 American Parent is all it takes. Obama could have been born in Kenya but it wouldn't have mattered.
What made it weird was people didn't know what a short form birth certificate was, why it took weeks to be verified, should have been an open and shut news article.
RIght now, Paypal and even credit card processors block donations to charities in the middle east because they "might have" ties to terrorism. Even if the groups are not a formally reconginizted terorrist group by governments, businesses are free to block support for these groups. Blocking funds to these groups is a form of censorship. If they are not identified by a government agency as a terrorist organization, they should be allowed to operate and have due process.
Now you can donate directly to them with crypto currency, and bypass the censorship.
Cryptocurrency creates a way around both censorship and corruption.
Its crazy that 40 bux worth of bitcoins at the start could be worth millions today and the facebook twins are billionaries off their 11 million dollars of btc they bought. Its driving up litecoin and ethereum due to the trading frenzy.
But the exchanges are raking in the transaction fees right now. Can't imagine how much they are earning per day now.
Depends on what bots you use for what platforms, discord right now has an explosion with bots for adding services to discord. There's SMS bots so you can pull information from systems, etc. You use the system to fill a need or replace a current bot. The google digiaflow didn't have twitch or discord on there, but there are tons of sdk choices for almost every language it appears, so should be able to create one easily enough.
>>Lots of companies offer faster services, fast lanes does not equate to throttled or blocked traffic.
>Er what? That's like saying there's plenty of Google fiber in the country. Just not in my neighborhood or many other neighborhoods, but man, is Google Fiber fast.
No its not, I said companies offer faster services, its called priority services and its not just internet related. Saying ISP's can only offer faster services for medical, is the only one needing faster priority is a weak argument. Traders want faster service and built out their own networks.
>>With LTE 5 and ViaSat 2 that just went up, and Viasat 3 going up in 2019, Facebook & Google offering internet access, within 5 years, Intenet access will be even more accessible and global.
>Again what? Mobile isn't a replacement for broadband. Fiber that isn't in my neighborhood isn't a suitable replacement. Like many Americans, all we have limited broadband options. It isn't also about money. For example, broadband availability for 90210 [broadbandnow.com] shows 1 viable cable and 1 DSL provider (Time Warner Spectrum and AT&T) for most of the zip code. There are 4 broadband providers but 2 of them only service 3% of the area. There are 2 satellite services. There is no fiber option. I would say that 90210 is a pretty affluent zip code. And yet they can't get more than 2 choices.
Well actually it is. There are many communities that dont have high speed broadband, not everyone lives in the the cities, many live in rural america. Wanting things to be real vs what is real, I'm talking about is current and real. ViaSat 3 and LTE5 is a contender with terabyte speeds. Try doing some damn research on where the tech is going.
>>FCC is working on guidelines to communities to allow new community ISPs and new companies to run services to the pole.
>Are we talking about the same national ISPs that sued local municipal ISPs from providing service to towns that they themselves didn't service?
You jumped from FCC to ISPS, did you not even read the FCC's recommendation on "to the pole" and community ISP ideas?
>>The FCC deregulating ISP's so smaller ISP's dont have the same regulations as big carriers and can now evenly compete again.
>Again the history of ISPs shows that the big carriers will not tolerate smaller ones. This has the opposite effect of what you are saying.
Again, no, the history of ISPs show you are wrong. The history is many cities gave them monopoly because they had no IDEA what the Internet was. Some cities went the other way and put in dark fiber and even allowed community ISPs. There is no universal access. States are widely different.
>>All I see is so much hyperbole and chicken little "sky is falling" without any facts to back them up. Its all "What if" scenarios, for a bill that's only been in place for 2 years and didn't fix the monopoly issue.
>So your argument against net neutrality is that it was put into place for 2 whole years and it didn't break up monopolies that have been in place for decades besides the fact net neutrality was never meant to break up the monopolies. Ever. The regulations were in place to keep the monopolies from gaining an unfair advantage, not to break them up
My argument is what exactly I said it was. Deregulation and competition is a good thing, more choice is good. And your hyperbole of "the internet is gonna die!" is bullshit.
Lots of companies offer faster services, fast lanes does not equate to throttled or blocked traffic. With the FTC taking over, it deals with consumer protections better than the FCC. FCC only cares about nipples on tv and frequencies.
The real issue is a monopoly of ISP's and thats not a net neutrality issue, it's an access issue. With LTE 5 and ViaSat 2 that just went up, and Viasat 3 going up in 2019, Facebook & Google offering internet access, within 5 years, Intenet access will be even more accessible and global. FCC is working on guidelines to communities to allow new community ISPs and new companies to run services to the pole. The FCC deregulating ISP's so smaller ISP's dont have the same regulations as big carriers and can now evenly compete again. The LEC issues really screwed the mom/pop ISP's that exploded DSL back before the carriers gobbled them up.
All I see is so much hyperbole and chicken little "sky is falling" without any facts to back them up. Its all "What if" scenarios, for a bill that's only been in place for 2 years and didn't fix the monopoly issue.
FTC already said when they take over regulation from the FCC, they will keep net neutrality.
The difference is the switch from title-2 to title-1 reclassification, and the Information providers control, which would also regulate Facebook/Google, etc.
Lots of fud going around has people worked up and worried, just read what FCC Chairman has been saying and google ftc net neutrality.
With work and side projects, in my downtime, its some tv and games. (orville,scif-fi shows, world of tanks). So that leaves my commutes and headphones at work. Also I have a large drive every 2 months, so I finish an audio book right there.
Mostly politics and hard sci-fi audiobooks and podcasts. Just finished Scott Adams older book and picked up his new one. Right now in the middle of "Forbidden Thoughts" which is very interesting hugo style collection of sci-fi short.
First, they tried to say the advertisements promoted Potus Trump, now "Divisive" ads. Divisive is code for Hillary and Bernie.
And if we are only talking Divisive advertisements, what about ShareBlue or Correct the record? How many millions did these companies pay to change social media, 50 Million? 100 Million? How much did the DNC and related political pacs pay, 500 Million?
And 80k from Russians is a big issue vs a billion?
Wag the dog indeed. If you are still blaming Russia for Trumps win, you still haven't learned. Nobody liked Hillary and Bernie only ran as a Democrat to get on the stage.
This two party system is a problem with all the money is funneled into 2 people. WTF, All that money into 2 parties. When vary widely on so many issues, 2 parties don't cover everyone. I have no idea how, but wish we had a multiparty system to stop this "us vs them" tribal cultural war. We got Democrats voting Republican for financial issues, and Republicans voting democrat for social issues. Libertarians, Socialist, Communists, etc, its a clusterfuck.
Youtube, Facebook, twitter, and other social media companies are turning down advertising money because of politics.
Conservatives get the bland "purple bed" ads, and conservative groups get ads turned off or demonetized because these corporations are pushing a social idea over an economic one.
How about allowing the NRA, gun accessories, sport fishing, Christian services, ACLJ, right-wing news, etc to sell advertising. These people are who the advertisers really want and will pay extra for. So when I hear that "not advertiser-friendly" we know that's code for "not our kinda of people" and is just more tribalism in the silicon valley mindset.
After a while, these conservative groups will have to start companies to compete against silicon valleys attempt to exclude them. Same goes for customers, after a while. A certain customer base will realize they are being actively targeted or even avoided for political reasons.
So while I think its nice Facebook is trying to have disclosure in advertising, I find it dubious with their history of promoting their social agendas. This is just to appease the public and politicians with the ongoing facebook/Russia advertising investigation.
And proves how far WAPO fell, this reads more like a 4chan shit post. Timeline includes tweets, he said she said arguments, innuendo, then tries to rope in wikileaks and guccifier.
Proof need more than "he spoke to someone". I read the whole thing looking for an actual crime, other than a list of unrelated events.
Milk was just skinned slacker radio, with radio only feature. I was a heavy slacker user but switched to Spotify when I could use spotibot, but now spotibot seems to no longer work. Slacker had offline radio which was great for the commute, so I could cache music. Spotify lets me do this with playlists, so thats comparable.
Pandora and Slackrr didn't have a music catalog back then, just related music, which is good for discovery of related types of music, but very limiting on new artist browsing. Spotify allowed me to play related songs, then listen to the entire music catalog for artists that I have not heard before, thats a big win. I was able to find so many new artists, and yes, even buy their albums off amazon.
Now Shazam saves my music in spotify as a playlsts.
Spotify just kicks ass. But kinda pissed off GM showed Spotify app in the car play, but never deployed it. Just a pandora and sticher apps installed. In fact GM has let the music apps die in its infotainment system. Thank god for bluetooth with metadata.
They had a cool jet engine 1 man flying machine, standing up. Made in the 60's for the military, but the shorter fly time and 1 person cargo, wasn't as useful as a chopper. Imagine the technology in 50 years could update this flying machine.
So many lawsuits, class action on age discrimination, class action on sex discrimination for women, soon a class action on sex discrimination from men fired by James and people he's contacting, multiple lawsuits for interfering with businesses on videos, advertising, search engine ranking in the EU, etc.
It's almost like instead of focusing on business, Googles views are causing all these lawsuits. Crazy how that karma comes back.
Nothing could save Juicero bad pricing model. They tried to make money on a 400$ juicer and not the juice, then on top of that, be a super niche market for the rich.
Yeah, 1 week off isn't going to make a difference when a company that already failed.
Eric Columbus who worked under Obama on DACA and how it effects POTUS Trump had a good overview on twitter. He really explains how DACA and DAPA are illegal, and how DACA would fail under same court scrunity.
THREAD: As a lawyer who worked for Obama on DACA issues, I’d like to explain what’s on Trump’s plate, how it got there, and what may happen.
2. DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) was created in 2012 to protect “Dreamers” – who came to US as kids but aren't here legally. 3. Essentially, DACA enables DHS to notify Dreamers formally – via a two-year permit – that they won’t be removed from the US. 4. Just as importantly, it renders them eligible to work legally and be eligible for certain benefits. 5. Candidate Trump promised to “immediately terminate” DACA. But he hasn’t, and in January he said DACA folks “shouldn’t be very worried.” 6. But on 6/29, ten state AGs wrote DOJ threatening to sue to kill DACA unless Trump agrees by 9/5 to phase it out. 7. Sad to say, I agree with the Trump administration that such a challenge to DACA is very likely to succeed. 8. The legal issues are *identical* to a suit that 26 states filed in 2014 to prevent us from implementing a new program called DAPA. 9. DAPA would have provided deferred action, and work authorization, to parents of US-born kids. 10. The 2014 suit also challenged an *expansion* of DACA announced at same time as DAPA. But it didn't challenge the original DACA program. 11. States won in district court and by a 2-1 vote on appeal. SCOTUS, after Scalia died, split 4-4, so the court of appeals decision stood. 12. We can presume the 4 who voted to invalidate were Thomas/Alito/Roberts/Kennedy. I'd bet a large sum that Gorsuch would join them. 13. It’s theoretically possible, of course, that someone – most likely Kennedy – could have a change of heart and save DACA. 14. Because SCOTUS doesn't bother writing opinions in tie votes, Kennedy’s slate is clean. He’s famously changed his mind in other cases. 15. But this is a slim reed on which to stake the hopes of the 780,000 people who benefit from DACA. 16. If the issues are identical, why didn’t the states try to kill DACA entirely in 2014? Probably because the Dreamers are too sympathetic. 17. They came here as kids, most brought by their parents. For many, the US is the only place they’ve ever considered home. 18. This may explain why, of the 26 states that sued in 2014, only 10 signed on to this letter. 19. Alas, the apparent opposition of 40 other states is legally irrelevant to whether DACA is valid exercise of federal executive authority. 20. What happens now? Oddly, the states’ threat isn’t consistent w/their request. They ask Trump to stop issuing DACA permits/renewals. 21. They’re *not* asking to rescind existing permits. So DACA folks would still be able to work legally until their 2-year permit expires.
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With 2k 144hz freesync monitors hitting 299, the 200-300 dollars more for a gsync monitor, is a nice savings.
A big problem, Medical tech market stinks, monopolies, no real standards that work 100%, no open source, no real interconnectivity that works well.
They still use fax in many places its so bad.
We got the big monopoly megacorp EPIC that uses its per user fee and dominance as a stranglehold on medical records. Not part of a network, ok, we can FAX you the information. WTF...
The reason the US pays so much, we have too many middle men that are charging for everything rising the costs, there's no low cost open source solutions for everything, but the companies use TONS of opensource middle themselves.
A leading cause for expensive software, government regulations have to be devloped into existing medical software. If you pass a bill, that costs is going somewhere, new revisions, some vendors own most of the market, book, expensive upgrades, end user is gonna pay for it with higher medical insurance paying for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
TIL, Medical IT is a shitshow of closed source, over regulation and monopolies that are making everything expensive thats driving up costs.
Exactly, He didn't even need to be born in Hawaii, born to 1 American Parent is all it takes. Obama could have been born in Kenya but it wouldn't have mattered.
What made it weird was people didn't know what a short form birth certificate was, why it took weeks to be verified, should have been an open and shut news article.
RIght now, Paypal and even credit card processors block donations to charities in the middle east because they "might have" ties to terrorism. Even if the groups are not a formally reconginizted terorrist group by governments, businesses are free to block support for these groups. Blocking funds to these groups is a form of censorship. If they are not identified by a government agency as a terrorist organization, they should be allowed to operate and have due process.
Now you can donate directly to them with crypto currency, and bypass the censorship.
Cryptocurrency creates a way around both censorship and corruption.
Its crazy that 40 bux worth of bitcoins at the start could be worth millions today and the facebook twins are billionaries off their 11 million dollars of btc they bought. Its driving up litecoin and ethereum due to the trading frenzy.
But the exchanges are raking in the transaction fees right now. Can't imagine how much they are earning per day now.
Depends on what bots you use for what platforms, discord right now has an explosion with bots for adding services to discord. There's SMS bots so you can pull information from systems, etc. You use the system to fill a need or replace a current bot. The google digiaflow didn't have twitch or discord on there, but there are tons of sdk choices for almost every language it appears, so should be able to create one easily enough.
Thats cool, didn't know that's the name for VR+AR is XR and not MR.
Was disappointed the Mixed Reality MR headsets that came out, is just a branding name and not really a AR+VR set, its VR only.
>>Lots of companies offer faster services, fast lanes does not equate to throttled or blocked traffic.
>Er what? That's like saying there's plenty of Google fiber in the country. Just not in my neighborhood or many other neighborhoods, but man, is Google Fiber fast.
No its not, I said companies offer faster services, its called priority services and its not just internet related. Saying ISP's can only offer faster services for medical, is the only one needing faster priority is a weak argument. Traders want faster service and built out their own networks.
>>With LTE 5 and ViaSat 2 that just went up, and Viasat 3 going up in 2019, Facebook & Google offering internet access, within 5 years, Intenet access will be even more accessible and global.
>Again what? Mobile isn't a replacement for broadband. Fiber that isn't in my neighborhood isn't a suitable replacement. Like many Americans, all we have limited broadband options. It isn't also about money. For example, broadband availability for 90210 [broadbandnow.com] shows 1 viable cable and 1 DSL provider (Time Warner Spectrum and AT&T) for most of the zip code. There are 4 broadband providers but 2 of them only service 3% of the area. There are 2 satellite services. There is no fiber option. I would say that 90210 is a pretty affluent zip code. And yet they can't get more than 2 choices.
Well actually it is. There are many communities that dont have high speed broadband, not everyone lives in the the cities, many live in rural america. Wanting things to be real vs what is real, I'm talking about is current and real. ViaSat 3 and LTE5 is a contender with terabyte speeds. Try doing some damn research on where the tech is going.
>>FCC is working on guidelines to communities to allow new community ISPs and new companies to run services to the pole.
>Are we talking about the same national ISPs that sued local municipal ISPs from providing service to towns that they themselves didn't service?
You jumped from FCC to ISPS, did you not even read the FCC's recommendation on "to the pole" and community ISP ideas?
>>The FCC deregulating ISP's so smaller ISP's dont have the same regulations as big carriers and can now evenly compete again.
>Again the history of ISPs shows that the big carriers will not tolerate smaller ones. This has the opposite effect of what you are saying.
Again, no, the history of ISPs show you are wrong. The history is many cities gave them monopoly because they had no IDEA what the Internet was. Some cities went the other way and put in dark fiber and even allowed community ISPs. There is no universal access. States are widely different.
>>All I see is so much hyperbole and chicken little "sky is falling" without any facts to back them up. Its all "What if" scenarios, for a bill that's only been in place for 2 years and didn't fix the monopoly issue.
>So your argument against net neutrality is that it was put into place for 2 whole years and it didn't break up monopolies that have been in place for decades besides the fact net neutrality was never meant to break up the monopolies. Ever. The regulations were in place to keep the monopolies from gaining an unfair advantage, not to break them up
My argument is what exactly I said it was. Deregulation and competition is a good thing, more choice is good. And your hyperbole of "the internet is gonna die!" is bullshit.
Lots of companies offer faster services, fast lanes does not equate to throttled or blocked traffic. With the FTC taking over, it deals with consumer protections better than the FCC. FCC only cares about nipples on tv and frequencies.
The real issue is a monopoly of ISP's and thats not a net neutrality issue, it's an access issue. With LTE 5 and ViaSat 2 that just went up, and Viasat 3 going up in 2019, Facebook & Google offering internet access, within 5 years, Intenet access will be even more accessible and global. FCC is working on guidelines to communities to allow new community ISPs and new companies to run services to the pole. The FCC deregulating ISP's so smaller ISP's dont have the same regulations as big carriers and can now evenly compete again. The LEC issues really screwed the mom/pop ISP's that exploded DSL back before the carriers gobbled them up.
All I see is so much hyperbole and chicken little "sky is falling" without any facts to back them up. Its all "What if" scenarios, for a bill that's only been in place for 2 years and didn't fix the monopoly issue.
Why did you leave out the DNC paid for that report or Natlia got her entry into the US approved by Obama administration.
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/d...
FTC already said when they take over regulation from the FCC, they will keep net neutrality.
The difference is the switch from title-2 to title-1 reclassification, and the Information providers control, which would also regulate Facebook/Google, etc.
Lots of fud going around has people worked up and worried, just read what FCC Chairman has been saying and google ftc net neutrality.
Way overreaction from media getting people upset.
What happened to Internet2? Remember all the press announcements of them breaking speed records all the time.
I can't even remember an internet speed record announcement.
Mines wireless, just auto updates to my insurance, yet they still stiff me on paying it or supplies. ACA really messed up my insurance.
With work and side projects, in my downtime, its some tv and games. (orville,scif-fi shows, world of tanks). So that leaves my commutes and headphones at work. Also I have a large drive every 2 months, so I finish an audio book right there.
Mostly politics and hard sci-fi audiobooks and podcasts. Just finished Scott Adams older book and picked up his new one. Right now in the middle of "Forbidden Thoughts" which is very interesting hugo style collection of sci-fi short.
This was petty payback by the CBS legal department because the guy sued CBS for using his copyright photos without approval.
So the lawyer at CBS is suing him for using screenshots. Very petty since everyone shares screenshots and screenshots are not photos.
So fucking petty, and this should be a SLAP lawsuit and the Judge should bitch slap the CBS lawyer for abusing the courts.
First, they tried to say the advertisements promoted Potus Trump, now "Divisive" ads. Divisive is code for Hillary and Bernie.
And if we are only talking Divisive advertisements, what about ShareBlue or Correct the record? How many millions did these companies pay to change social media, 50 Million? 100 Million? How much did the DNC and related political pacs pay, 500 Million?
And 80k from Russians is a big issue vs a billion?
Wag the dog indeed. If you are still blaming Russia for Trumps win, you still haven't learned. Nobody liked Hillary and Bernie only ran as a Democrat to get on the stage.
This two party system is a problem with all the money is funneled into 2 people. WTF, All that money into 2 parties. When vary widely on so many issues, 2 parties don't cover everyone. I have no idea how, but wish we had a multiparty system to stop this "us vs them" tribal cultural war. We got Democrats voting Republican for financial issues, and Republicans voting democrat for social issues. Libertarians, Socialist, Communists, etc, its a clusterfuck.
Youtube, Facebook, twitter, and other social media companies are turning down advertising money because of politics.
Conservatives get the bland "purple bed" ads, and conservative groups get ads turned off or demonetized because these corporations are pushing a social idea over an economic one.
How about allowing the NRA, gun accessories, sport fishing, Christian services, ACLJ, right-wing news, etc to sell advertising. These people are who the advertisers really want and will pay extra for. So when I hear that "not advertiser-friendly" we know that's code for "not our kinda of people" and is just more tribalism in the silicon valley mindset.
After a while, these conservative groups will have to start companies to compete against silicon valleys attempt to exclude them. Same goes for customers, after a while. A certain customer base will realize they are being actively targeted or even avoided for political reasons.
So while I think its nice Facebook is trying to have disclosure in advertising, I find it dubious with their history of promoting their social agendas. This is just to appease the public and politicians with the ongoing facebook/Russia advertising investigation.
>citation provided [washingtonpost.com]
And proves how far WAPO fell, this reads more like a 4chan shit post.
Timeline includes tweets, he said she said arguments, innuendo, then tries to rope in wikileaks and guccifier.
Proof need more than "he spoke to someone". I read the whole thing looking for an actual crime, other than a list of unrelated events.
Check list.
* Favorable weather
* Well-maintained streets
* Lack of pedestrians.
* Everyone driving slow golf carts
* Shopping malls don't always work.
Sounds like not really ready for prime time, just cherry picked locations.
Milk was just skinned slacker radio, with radio only feature. I was a heavy slacker user but switched to Spotify when I could use spotibot, but now spotibot seems to no longer work. Slacker had offline radio which was great for the commute, so I could cache music. Spotify lets me do this with playlists, so thats comparable.
Pandora and Slackrr didn't have a music catalog back then, just related music, which is good for discovery of related types of music, but very limiting on new artist browsing. Spotify allowed me to play related songs, then listen to the entire music catalog for artists that I have not heard before, thats a big win.
I was able to find so many new artists, and yes, even buy their albums off amazon.
Now Shazam saves my music in spotify as a playlsts.
Spotify just kicks ass. But kinda pissed off GM showed Spotify app in the car play, but never deployed it. Just a pandora and sticher apps installed. In fact GM has let the music apps die in its infotainment system. Thank god for bluetooth with metadata.
They had a cool jet engine 1 man flying machine, standing up. Made in the 60's for the military, but the shorter fly time and 1 person cargo, wasn't as useful as a chopper. Imagine the technology in 50 years could update this flying machine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
So many lawsuits, class action on age discrimination, class action on sex discrimination for women, soon a class action on sex discrimination from men fired by James and people he's contacting, multiple lawsuits for interfering with businesses on videos, advertising, search engine ranking in the EU, etc.
It's almost like instead of focusing on business, Googles views are causing all these lawsuits. Crazy how that karma comes back.
I thought it was the low-rez pixelated lcd screens, and motion sickness due to low refresh.
Valve's demo for VR is amazing, the portal repair is a great teaser. HD 360 full immersive movies is awesome to watch.
But those pixels...
Nothing could save Juicero bad pricing model. They tried to make money on a 400$ juicer and not the juice, then on top of that, be a super niche market for the rich.
Yeah, 1 week off isn't going to make a difference when a company that already failed.
Eric Columbus who worked under Obama on DACA and how it effects POTUS Trump had a good overview on twitter.
He really explains how DACA and DAPA are illegal, and how DACA would fail under same court scrunity.
https://twitter.com/EricColumb...
THREAD: As a lawyer who worked for Obama on DACA issues, I’d like to explain what’s on Trump’s plate, how it got there, and what may happen.
2. DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) was created in 2012 to protect “Dreamers” – who came to US as kids but aren't here legally.
3. Essentially, DACA enables DHS to notify Dreamers formally – via a two-year permit – that they won’t be removed from the US.
4. Just as importantly, it renders them eligible to work legally and be eligible for certain benefits.
5. Candidate Trump promised to “immediately terminate” DACA. But he hasn’t, and in January he said DACA folks “shouldn’t be very worried.”
6. But on 6/29, ten state AGs wrote DOJ threatening to sue to kill DACA unless Trump agrees by 9/5 to phase it out.
7. Sad to say, I agree with the Trump administration that such a challenge to DACA is very likely to succeed.
8. The legal issues are *identical* to a suit that 26 states filed in 2014 to prevent us from implementing a new program called DAPA.
9. DAPA would have provided deferred action, and work authorization, to parents of US-born kids.
10. The 2014 suit also challenged an *expansion* of DACA announced at same time as DAPA. But it didn't challenge the original DACA program.
11. States won in district court and by a 2-1 vote on appeal. SCOTUS, after Scalia died, split 4-4, so the court of appeals decision stood.
12. We can presume the 4 who voted to invalidate were Thomas/Alito/Roberts/Kennedy. I'd bet a large sum that Gorsuch would join them.
13. It’s theoretically possible, of course, that someone – most likely Kennedy – could have a change of heart and save DACA.
14. Because SCOTUS doesn't bother writing opinions in tie votes, Kennedy’s slate is clean. He’s famously changed his mind in other cases.
15. But this is a slim reed on which to stake the hopes of the 780,000 people who benefit from DACA.
16. If the issues are identical, why didn’t the states try to kill DACA entirely in 2014? Probably because the Dreamers are too sympathetic.
17. They came here as kids, most brought by their parents. For many, the US is the only place they’ve ever considered home.
18. This may explain why, of the 26 states that sued in 2014, only 10 signed on to this letter.
19. Alas, the apparent opposition of 40 other states is legally irrelevant to whether DACA is valid exercise of federal executive authority.
20. What happens now? Oddly, the states’ threat isn’t consistent w/their request. They ask Trump to stop issuing DACA permits/renewals.
21. They’re *not* asking to rescind existing permits. So DACA folks would still be able to work legally until their 2-year permit expires.