I'd rather run Solarix x86 then. The point is not that one OS is better than the other. It is that whan you run a large server farm, you'd rather admin all the boxes the same way. Differences are small, but cost a lot when for example you write a script that should run everywhere. And these cost have a way of biting you back every day. Solaris 9 x86 looks OK, and morever is just like Solaris sparc.
Yeah but the simple fact that it goes down is bad. Having, say, a Linux box with a 450 day uptime is totally useless if the DB goes down every other day. Start Flamebait
RedHat's latest sparc port is 6.2. Yeah 6.2 Since we have more and more suns running linux, we decided to switch to Debian (which is more lightweight anyway) for all our servers, including the x86 ones. If RedHat ported 7.3 to sparc, all the better, but Debian's commitment to sparc seems a tad more serious than RedHat's.
I resent that. I run a small company (and we actually run an ELIZA-based bot albeit for private use). In a case like this, there is no way we'd have enough money to fight; we'd just buy the farm since we couldn't afford to pay for the licence anyway. It's not only a matter of taking the long view; remember there are simple economic factors (like the paychecks, the office rent, the bandwidth...) that have a say in what companies do. And we're lucky, being small we have no "shareholder expecting their 15%" problem.
I'm not surprised at the answers - they are a perfect sampling of the slashdot crowd as I picture it. Appart from the troll part (I mean, the bnetd story in general and the idea to boycott Blizzard games generated a lot of talk here didn't they?).
Anyway, while I understand (not agree, just understand) that one could stand by the Blizzard policy of hammering bnetd into the ground, and thus buy the game with no remorse whatsoever, I have a hard time understanding those that resent Blizzard policy but nevertheless buy the game.
I have a feeling that at the time of the bnetd fisaco, a very large crowd was very offended by their tactics. And it is my firm belief that a large part of the very same crowd bought the game.
Which brings me to the conclusion that "getting a cool game" overrides any political or ethical issues in a few weeks. Some of the answers to my post clearly state that. And lead me to believe that this kind of thinking prevents (or hampers) any pressure we as a group of geeks may try to exert on a large corporation.
I'm at a loss here. WarCraft III? After the bnetd business? Hmm. Blizzard must be like Sony: we only boycott them between product releases. It's a bit sad. I guess this in some way shows how we will never win against corporations. The average person here seems to hold on to his principles until shown a new toy. I have little faith in humanity; so it's not like I am disapointed, but I can't help but being mad at those who can't seem to stick to their own principles for more than a few minutes...
It was nice, but the host didn't show up;-) We wend thru all the religious wars (distro, editors,...) and talked just about everything. Excellent evening.
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What's new since Warcraft II? Huh? Storytelling? A bunch of new units? A pinch of RPG (heroes with an inventory and levels)? It's the same game. Ah, no, I forgot, 3D! Yeah!
Honestly, if you remember the RTS genre timeline, after Warcraft II, Total Annihilation came out, and since then no game was ever a match for gameplay, and depth of strategy. Don't even talk about starcraft. If you do it means you never played TA.
Blizzard is just milking the Warcraft cow. And the buyers of the game that is. Huh.
> Why should GNU get so much credit for writing a compiler and few other tools.
Because if you were to remove the compiler and "few other tools" like glib you'd be left with a pile of neat source code. But hey, I guess you just like to translate the C into Asm, and then asm into machine opcodes. I for one do lack the time and appreciate the help. And then there are all those other tools that you surely can live without but do happen to be useful to the vast majority of us poor GNU tool users. Now maybe you do edit your files with a magnet;-)
Most/.ers have a big mouth, a large ego, and little in the way of actual courage.
It's always the same story. Sony does a nasty thing, boycott sony, Sony has a new toy, "I wish I had one".
Same goes for IE. I'm not into browser wars, I didn't try Opera, but I use Moz 0.9.9 everyday since it was released and it works. It's not "better" or anything, it just displays the sites I visit, and that's about all that matters to me. And when I hit a site that requires IE, then I skip it. Really. If I can't get to their site, they don't want my business. It's as simple. And yes I do this at work, and yes, I set the company policy, and we're doing quite OK without IE (nor a single windows as it is).
Instead of bashing M$ and using their products nonetheless, what about actually trying to live by your values?
Lo and behold, as the M$ bashers, bereft of the excuse of a high pricetag, drop all pretense of politiconomical involvement and rush to buy the former devil's instrument now perfecly acceptable since they can afford it. *sigh*
Actually, most people are morons. 50.1% would be enough for this statement to be democratically true, and I believe it's even worse than that. Every day I hear the news, and it's getting worse and worse. People suing companies or government because they weren't prevented from harming themselves. People voicing opinions so far removed from reality than it boggles the mind. We live in a time of mediocrity, and reward mediocrity and incompetence accordingly. Wake up. It's already happened.
Get real. Every now and then Sony does something that really pisses everyone (here at last). Then someone like you calls for a boycott and maybe two or three guys agree. A week later, Sony is out with a new slick gadget and the whole sheep pack drops all pretense of guts or political awareness and flocks back to Sony. Same goes for Windoze. Everyone here is M$ bashing, but I bet more than 50% of the hits on slashdot are MS IE. Bah. I'm boycotting Sony since one of their VP had his talk about stoping MP3 by all means (at the provider, at the PC,...). I really am. Even when they have their new Clié out. If you want to, just do it. Don't expect others to follow, and dont act only if they do, 'cause they won't.
I can't help but think about Benjamin Franklin. He is reputed to have said, "They who give up essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." Now, here we are. *sigh*
My Apple//e is also 17 years old, and still working. I sometimes hook it up to my TV and play an old game. I rigged the apple joystick to work on a PC, and guess what - it still works too. Probably the best joystick I ever had, still precise and never broke. The//e was probably the best computer I owned.
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I'd rather run Solarix x86 then. The point is not that one OS is better than the other. It is that whan you run a large server farm, you'd rather admin all the boxes the same way. Differences are small, but cost a lot when for example you write a script that should run everywhere. And these cost have a way of biting you back every day. Solaris 9 x86 looks OK, and morever is just like Solaris sparc.
Don't laugh; I did get one...
Start Flamebait
- DB? They don't have a DB, they use MySQL.
End FlamebaitYou married the wrong wife. Mine would let me (have the table, I'm not too sure about the killing although it might be worth a go too ;)
RedHat's latest sparc port is 6.2. Yeah 6.2
Since we have more and more suns running linux, we decided to switch to Debian (which is more lightweight anyway) for all our servers, including the x86 ones.
If RedHat ported 7.3 to sparc, all the better, but Debian's commitment to sparc seems a tad more serious than RedHat's.
I resent that. I run a small company (and we actually run an ELIZA-based bot albeit for private use). In a case like this, there is no way we'd have enough money to fight; we'd just buy the farm since we couldn't afford to pay for the licence anyway. It's not only a matter of taking the long view; remember there are simple economic factors (like the paychecks, the office rent, the bandwidth...) that have a say in what companies do. And we're lucky, being small we have no "shareholder expecting their 15%" problem.
I'm not surprised at the answers - they are a perfect sampling of the slashdot crowd as I picture it. Appart from the troll part (I mean, the bnetd story in general and the idea to boycott Blizzard games generated a lot of talk here didn't they?).
Anyway, while I understand (not agree, just understand) that one could stand by the Blizzard policy of hammering bnetd into the ground, and thus buy the game with no remorse whatsoever, I have a hard time understanding those that resent Blizzard policy but nevertheless buy the game.
I have a feeling that at the time of the bnetd fisaco, a very large crowd was very offended by their tactics. And it is my firm belief that a large part of the very same crowd bought the game.
Which brings me to the conclusion that "getting a cool game" overrides any political or ethical issues in a few weeks. Some of the answers to my post clearly state that. And lead me to believe that this kind of thinking prevents (or hampers) any pressure we as a group of geeks may try to exert on a large corporation.
You never did try to download anything at 9600 bps did you? I mean, anything bigger than a few K?
I'm at a loss here. WarCraft III? After the bnetd business? Hmm. Blizzard must be like Sony: we only boycott them between product releases.
It's a bit sad. I guess this in some way shows how we will never win against corporations. The average person here seems to hold on to his principles until shown a new toy.
I have little faith in humanity; so it's not like I am disapointed, but I can't help but being mad at those who can't seem to stick to their own principles for more than a few minutes...
It was nice, but the host didn't show up ;-) ...) and talked just about everything.
We wend thru all the religious wars (distro, editors,
Excellent evening.
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A+ Laurent
It's not coming - it's there
We're not bycotting the _evil_ sony anymore? Ha.
What's new since Warcraft II? Huh? Storytelling? A bunch of new units? A pinch of RPG (heroes with an inventory and levels)? It's the same game. Ah, no, I forgot, 3D! Yeah!
Honestly, if you remember the RTS genre timeline, after Warcraft II, Total Annihilation came out, and since then no game was ever a match for gameplay, and depth of strategy. Don't even talk about starcraft. If you do it means you never played TA.
Blizzard is just milking the Warcraft cow. And the buyers of the game that is. Huh.
> Why should GNU get so much credit for writing a compiler and few other tools.
;-)
Because if you were to remove the compiler and "few other tools" like glib you'd be left with a pile of neat source code. But hey, I guess you just like to translate the C into Asm, and then asm into machine opcodes. I for one do lack the time and appreciate the help.
And then there are all those other tools that you surely can live without but do happen to be useful to the vast majority of us poor GNU tool users.
Now maybe you do edit your files with a magnet
> "This isn't the company you're looking to sue"
> "move along lucas
Stupid Jedi mind tricks don't work on me. Only money works on me.
The computer is your friend.
Most /.ers have a big mouth, a large ego, and little in the way of actual courage.
It's always the same story. Sony does a nasty thing, boycott sony, Sony has a new toy, "I wish I had one".
Same goes for IE. I'm not into browser wars, I didn't try Opera, but I use Moz 0.9.9 everyday since it was released and it works. It's not "better" or anything, it just displays the sites I visit, and that's about all that matters to me. And when I hit a site that requires IE, then I skip it. Really. If I can't get to their site, they don't want my business. It's as simple. And yes I do this at work, and yes, I set the company policy, and we're doing quite OK without IE (nor a single windows as it is).
Instead of bashing M$ and using their products nonetheless, what about actually trying to live by your values?
It's been said already, but: Ender's Game. :-)
A must-read
It's a network (multi-user) install by default. You have to ask for a single user install explicitely (try ./install --help)
Lo and behold, as the M$ bashers, bereft of the excuse of a high pricetag, drop all pretense of politiconomical involvement and rush to buy the former devil's instrument now perfecly acceptable since they can afford it.
*sigh*
Actually, most people are morons. 50.1% would be enough for this statement to be democratically true, and I believe it's even worse than that.
Every day I hear the news, and it's getting worse and worse. People suing companies or government because they weren't prevented from harming themselves. People voicing opinions so far removed from reality than it boggles the mind.
We live in a time of mediocrity, and reward mediocrity and incompetence accordingly.
Wake up. It's already happened.
You are so right, and it is so late already...
Get real. Every now and then Sony does something that really pisses everyone (here at last). Then someone like you calls for a boycott and maybe two or three guys agree. A week later, Sony is out with a new slick gadget and the whole sheep pack drops all pretense of guts or political awareness and flocks back to Sony. ...). I really am. Even when they have their new Clié out.
Same goes for Windoze. Everyone here is M$ bashing, but I bet more than 50% of the hits on slashdot are MS IE. Bah.
I'm boycotting Sony since one of their VP had his talk about stoping MP3 by all means (at the provider, at the PC,
If you want to, just do it. Don't expect others to follow, and dont act only if they do, 'cause they won't.
I can't help but think about Benjamin Franklin. He is reputed to have said, "They who give up essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security."
Now, here we are.
*sigh*
My Apple //e is also 17 years old, and still working. I sometimes hook it up to my TV and play an old game. I rigged the apple joystick to work on a PC, and guess what - it still works too. Probably the best joystick I ever had, still precise and never broke. //e was probably the best computer I owned.
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