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Re:Google Cache
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Google Cache
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Google CacheYou can try these links from google's cache:
- The Notebook
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Laj3GZ5gdWQJ
: www.funnyfox.org/thenotebook.htm+funnyfox+thenoteb ook&hl=en&client=firefox-a - The Mobile http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:j5pQBRUs-M8J
: funnyfox.org/themobile.htm+funnyfox+themobile&hl=e n&client=firefox-a - The Office http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:J9OMi60mnKAJ
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- The Notebook
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Google CacheYou can try these links from google's cache:
- The Notebook
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Laj3GZ5gdWQJ
: www.funnyfox.org/thenotebook.htm+funnyfox+thenoteb ook&hl=en&client=firefox-a - The Mobile http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:j5pQBRUs-M8J
: funnyfox.org/themobile.htm+funnyfox+themobile&hl=e n&client=firefox-a - The Office http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:J9OMi60mnKAJ
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- The Notebook
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Laj3GZ5gdWQJ
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Google CacheYou can try these links from google's cache:
- The Notebook
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:Laj3GZ5gdWQJ
: www.funnyfox.org/thenotebook.htm+funnyfox+thenoteb ook&hl=en&client=firefox-a - The Mobile http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:j5pQBRUs-M8J
: funnyfox.org/themobile.htm+funnyfox+themobile&hl=e n&client=firefox-a - The Office http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:J9OMi60mnKAJ
: funnyfox.org/+funnyfox+theoffice&hl=en&client=fire fox-a
- The Notebook
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Chinese Citizens: What Your Government Is HidingDear Citizens of China, Since your communist government is blocking access to Google, and assuming that you can read Slashdot, here are a few web pages that your government would probably prefer you not read:
- Here's a page which talks about Jasper becker's book Hungry Ghosts, which covers how farm collectivization during Mao's "Great Leap Forward" resulted in the death of some 30-60 million of your countrymen.
- Here's a page which discusses the genocide rsulting from China's invasion of Tibet, where "over 17 percent of the Tibetan people killed, and 6,000 monasteries ruined."
- Finally, here's a page discussing the practice of Falun Gong. Now I'm personally not a believer in Falun Gong, but since I live in a nation blessed with freedom of religion, and since your government would rather execute people rather than let them practice it, perhaps you should find out for yourself what it is they so desperately don't want you to hear.
- Finally, here's the profile of a true Chinese hero.
Freedom starts with you.
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Re:Hmm
There are a lot of fallacies in this post. Lets go down the list:
Actually, considering what Scaled Composites has done so far
Scaled has done almost nothing in terms of sending a craft to orbit.
Of course it would not include funds for running a huge NASA paperpusher army
NASA's "paperpushing" regulations are largely due to the private companies trying to take advantage of them. Trust me, I used to work for one company that did - Rockwell-Collins. They had a Space Shuttle contract, and started charging all of their other projects that were low on budget to the shuttle contract, then simply claimed that the project was running overbudget. Eventually they were caught and smacked down with fines and regulatory penalties, but far down the line.
The regulations are designed to make sure that the net result is A) what they asked for, B) safety corners haven't been cut, and C) . Can they be improved? You bet. Have they been improved already? You bet (as much as O'Keefe has done wrong, most will agree that he made NASA regulations a lot easier to deal with).
Every astronaut can themselves consider the risks and decide if they are happy with the launch vehicle.
I'll agree with that one.
Nobody was out there demanding stacks of paper and testing from the Wright brothers when they experimented.
Experimented on themselves. When they wanted to sell their airplane to the military, the military put it through the works.
In retrospect their contraption was highly unstable and unsafe.
Unstable? Yes. Unsafe? Hardly. Early airplanes flew so low and so slow that even when you crashed, it was rarely a fatal event. The first fatality wasn't until 1908, despite several hundred (yes, hundred) teams around the world building their own airplanes in that time, many with dubious methods. If I recall the number correctly, the first cross-country flight attempt in order to win a cup involved about three dozen crashes *by the same contender*, who each time patched his airplane up and took off again. Even with all of the advances in speed (and increases in flying altitude), and with far more rugged terrain, of the dozen crashes in the first attempt to fly around the world in 1924, none were fatal. The first fatal commercial flight wasn't until two planes in (late 1920s, early 1930s? Don't recall the exact date) collided over the English Channel. I could keep going, but I think you get the picture. Early amateur airplanes were nothing like amateur rockets - their failure modes were far, far more gentle.
No need to bog it all down with 100M$s of paperwork and extra safety tests and checks that really won't improve safety.
You better believe that all of those "extra safety tests" increase safety. Take a look at the history of any rocket development program's tests. Often, you won't find burnthrough fuel/oxidizer leak, or other potentially fatal complication until you've mounted everything on the launch pad to each other and are doing your 20th or so static firing of the engines.
The law of diminishing returns applies - sure, you want to test and make sure the damn thing works, but beyond certain point extra testing and checking is not going to change the safety much
Quite true. But look at all of the public outcry (and even outcry on Slashdot) when a manned spacecraft fails. They have reasons other than pure logic to take into account: public reaction. If t-space wants to step into the public limelight as such, they better be prepared to take that on as well. -
Article in question
Read it for yourself at: this google cache, or at any of these pages.
Intresting, but I'm sure if you took all the odd things about anyone you could make them seem like a freak. -
link to "Who Is 'PJ' Pamela Jones of Groklaw.Net?"
Here's a link to the google cache of Maureen O'Gara's "Exclusive: Who Is 'PJ' Pamela Jones of Groklaw.Net?"
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Article text and Google cache linkI think this is the same article: google:www.coder.com
Google United - Google Patent ExaminedGoogle's newest patent application is lengthy. It is interesting in some places and enigmatic in others. Less colourful than most end user license agreements, the patent covers an enormous range of ranking analysis techniques Google wants to ensure are kept under their control.
Publication Date: 4/7/2005 7:41:24 AM
By Jim Hedger, StepForth News Editor, StepForth Placement Inc.
Thoughts on Google's patent... "Information retrieval based on historical data."
Google's newest patent application is lengthy. It is interesting in some places and enigmatic in others. Less colourful than most end user license agreements, the patent covers an enormous range of ranking analysis techniques Google wants to ensure are kept under their control. Some of the ideas and concepts covered in the document are almost certainly worked into the current algorithm running Google. Some are being worked in as this article is being written. Some may never see the blue-light of electrons but are pretty good ideas so it might have been considered wise to patent them. Google's not saying which is which. While not exactly War and Peace, it's a pretty complex document that gives readers a glimpse inside the minds of Google engineers. What it doesn't give is a 100% clear overview of how Google operates now and how the various ideas covered in the patent application will be integrated into Google's algorithms. One interesting section seems to confirm what SEOs have been saying for almost a year, Google does have a "sandbox" where it stores new links or sites for about a month before evaluation.
Google is in the midst of sweeping changes to the way it operates as a search engine. As a matter of fact, it isn't really a search engine in the fine sense of the word anymore. It isn't really a portal either. It is more of an institution, the ultimate private-public partnership. Calling itself a media-company, Google is now a multi-faceted information and multi-media delivery system that is accessed primarily through its well-known interface found at www.google.com.
Google is known for its from-the-hip style of innovation. While the face is familiar, the brains behind it are growing and changing rapidly. Four major factors (technology, revenue, user demand and competition) influence and drive these changes. Where Microsoft dithers and
.dll's over its software for years before introduction, Google encourages its staff to spend up to 20% of their time tripping their way up the stairs of invention. Sometimes they produce ideas that didn't work out as they expected, as was the case with Orkut, and sometimes they produce spectacular results as with Google News. The sum total of what works and what doesn't work has served to inform Google what its users want in a search engine. After all, where the users go, the advertising dollars must follow. Such is the way of the Internet.In its recent SEC filing, the first it has produced since going public in August 2004, Google said it was going to spend a lot of money to continue outpacing its rivals. This year they figure they will spend about $500 million to develop or enhance newer technologies. In 2004 and 2003, Google spent $319 million and $177 million respectively. The increase in innovation-spending corresponds with a doubling of Google's staff headcount which has jumped from 1628 employees in 2003 to 3021 by the end of 2004.
Over the past five years Google has produced a number of features that have proven popular enough to be included among its public-search offerings. On their front page, these features include Image Search, Google Groups, Google News, Froogle, Google Local, and Google Desktop. There are dozens of other features which can be accessed by cli
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Re:It doesn't matterThe info in question is on this page. The Google cache of the page currently shows the tables as they used to be before the changeover.
The table in question is the one headed "Level" and "Maximum Match." The old table started out with Levels 0-5 allowing +5 levels, Levels 6-10 akllowing +6 levels, and on up to Levels 36 and up allowing +10 levels. The new table shows the maximum match for Level 1 is +10 levels, Level 2 is +9 levels, on up to Level 6 being +5 levels, then the maximum match slowly increases from there, with the curve getting steeper as you hit Level 30.
However, the XP-to-level table also shows that the XP required per level has dropped, starting with Level 4 and becoming more pronounced as levels increase. (Old Level 50 = 44500 XP, new Level 50 = 10250 XP) The XP exchange table has also become less steep the way it slopes off as the level difference increases, and the "Loss Factor" handicap table for low-level players now doesn't cause you to lose full XP until you hit Level 29.
It's difficult to interpret the effect of all of these changes, but I suspect that I'll probably be able to get back my old level easily enough once the addicts start zooming up into the 30s and 40s, which I expect they will soon. (Someone's already hit Level 22 in Rumble Pit play, and this is just the day after the stats got reset...)
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more information from a security thread - cached
Look at this cached search I found.
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Re:No, no, no
That all sounds well and good, but I, for one, will be calling Old Glory before sending my tikes to preschool.
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Re:pre-emptive lawsuit
I haven't had any problems with TigerDirect either. One time I got a defective mobo, and they paid shipping both ways no questions asked. Their customer support has been excellent in my experience. I stay away from rebates, though, I hear those are trouble.
I actually have had a whole class of students buy from TigerDirect with no problems. One student ignored my advice and bought from NewEgg and had nothing but problems (they wouldn't accept his return and then double-billed him for the defective parts; it was bad...).
Before you call me an astroturfer, here
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:xQOTYo_JpcsJ: www2.imsa.edu/intersession2005/2005catalog.pdf+%22 Jonathan+Rockway%22+computer+intersession&hl=en&st art=2&client=safari
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Re:slashdotted
Yeah here ya go.
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Re:Truth in Advertising?
What I did in humour, you were an asshole about, so wrap your drug-addled, pea-brained, useless as goatse mind around this:
I've seen a retail box copy of Windows NT 3.01, you dumb shit.
If you're coherent enough to comprehend it, look at http://www.ekta.ee/html/e741.htm, which was the third result in my supposed "garbage" Google search. Under the System Software section, it references....how about that? Windows NT 3.01.
Next, check this tech reference from AMD (Google PDF-to-HTML version, since you're probably too useless to even know what to do with a .pdf file, scum-sucker):
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:mJgOcysWfHYJ: www.amd.com/epd/desiging/evalboards/14.elansc400/b ios/phoenix/manual/picobios.pdf+%22windows+nt+3.01 %22&hl=en&client=firefox-a
Read page 117. The function it's describing supports Big Memory under Windows NT 3.01.
Just because you've never heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Some of us have been around a little longer than you stupid fuck script kiddie assholes, and before you go spewing shit out your mouth as well as your ass, you might want to stop and consider that we know what we're talking about.
Go back to your porn collection, AC. (Yeah, I noticed you didn't even let anybody know who your stupid ass was.) -
Obligatory Google Cache / Mirror / Screenshots
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Google Cache
Here's the Google cache (text only):
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Godwin's law
Google cache of Wikipedia Godwin's Law explained (Wiki isn't working well at the moment)
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Link slashdotted, Google cache
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Would've posted anonymously, but apparently excessive bad posting has occured from my IP or Subnet. -
This ain't the first time
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That is closer to the truth than you thinkVote for Dick Cheney!
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[ ] Supreme Court SeatWith the internet, I can see money being raised in foriegn countries, then having websites promoting candidates unregulated on the internet. So what if there is a $1,000 maximum on individuals contributing to candidates. Who is going to stop China from helping Clinton get elected http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:1smXmfU5JwEJ
: www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000 /000/001/990axijx.asp+gore+china+fundraising+scand al&hl=en&ie=UTF-8.Everyone knows that money elects people, not idea's. Campaigns hire people to run advertising. They have buzz words, speeches filled with little phrases perfect for a 10 second soundbyte on the news. They make more negative attack ads than advertising about ideas. And often those negative attacks can be ridiculous lies, but they work.
Right now, China can't buy commercial space on TV for promoting a candidate in a USA election. Who is to say they won't do just that with the internet? Or Isreal. Who is to say that Isreal won't secretly fund a candidate, then in return have weapons secrets leaked to them?
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Re:Huh?
If you want to waste your life, courtrooms are normally open, so you're perfectly free to sit in the courtroom and make as many hand-written or -drawn recordings as you like. If you were good at shorthand, you could make your own transcript, then go home and type it out.
A quick google search revealed this. The reasoning seems to be to reduce the level of public spectacle and enhance the fairness of the trial. For example, if evidence is thrown out, the media will not refrain from reporting on the tainted evidence.
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Re:I've been testing it...
If you follow that link all you get is the directory listing.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:fXoSH2QjvcAJ: www.geocities.com/pierceive/adblock/2005-03-26a.tx t+&hl=en&client=firefox-a
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Reports on current slave labour in China"But back that up with facts that it is happening right now in China."
Here are views from different sides:
UAW report, from the left.
This report, from a fringe right-wing guy.
This report, from Jim Hightower, also on the left.
Cache of Bob Johnson campaign site, right-winger. Relevant quote: "in dealing with the slave labor camps in Red China, we have to rmember that about 5% of China is in slave labor camps, amounting to 50 million Chinese working"
Indian NGOs site. See part about Chinese slaves making footballs(soccer balls).
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Re:Remember...Hey, if you're really worried, just do like Arnie did in "Total Recall" - wrap a wet towel around it.
It turns out there's some truth in it after all - they're having a hard time using RFID in fruits because the high water content absorbs the signals.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:j7dhJE6hsjsJ: www.ebi.temple.edu/programs/RFID/RFIDSupplyChain.p df+rfid+fruits+absorb+signal&hl=en -
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Re:Who's still using mysql?Dark Age of Camelot a popular online RPG uses MySQL to run their game server DB.
"Because running Camelot would require a considerable amount of data management, we initially planned on using Oracle to store account and character information. However, Oracle's quoted license fee of more than $900,000 quickly removed them from contention. Once we got over our shock and amusement at Oracle's pricing, we turned to a Linux-based freeware solution, MySQL, to manage Camelot's data storage, which so far has worked admirably.
Everyone developing games should at least investigate open source solutions for their servers. It's saved us a pile of money and has been stable and reliable. In fact, prior to Camelot's launch, it was axiomatic that MMORPGs were unstable and prone to crashing during their first month or so." - Gamasutra -
Re:STAY OUT OF OUR PERSONAL LIVES!
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Here's Google's cache of the PezMP3 site
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Re:Video
That could be quite awkward. It's bad enough to send text messages to the wrong window.
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Re:PrecedentAnd, she's kinda cute, too.
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Re:MS needs to change windows fundamentally
I think MS could learn a lot from Apple, as they always have, and should look into utilizing something like BSD to start over.
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ImawhoreGoogle cache of the main page: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:QecdG73oJ2cJ: www.ioccc.org/main.html+The+International+Obfuscat ed+C+Code+Contest&hl=en&client=firefox-a
Full text of rules.txt18th International Obfuscated C Code Contest Rules
Copyright (C) 2005 Leonid A. Broukhis, Simon Cooper, Landon Curt Noll and
Peter Seebach.
All Rights Reserved. Permission for personal, education or non-profit use is
granted provided this this copyright and notice are included in its entirety
and remains unaltered. All other uses must receive prior permission in
writing from the contest judges.
Obfuscate: tr.v. -cated, -cating, -cates. 1. a. To render obscure.
b. To darken. 2. To confuse: his emotions obfuscated his
judgment. [LLat. obfuscare, to darken : ob(intensive) +
Lat. fuscare, to darken < fuscus, dark.] -obfuscation n.
obfuscatory adj.
GOALS OF THE CONTEST:
* To write the most Obscure/Obfuscated C program under the rules below.
* To show the importance of programming style, in an ironic way.
* To stress C compilers with unusual code.
* To illustrate some of the subtleties of the C language.
* To provide a safe forum for poor C code. :-)
The 18th IOCCC contest window is:
| 21-Mar-2005 00:00 UTC to 22-May-2005 23:59:59 UTC
RULES:
To help us with the volume of entries, we ask that you follow these rules:
1) Your entry must be a complete program.
2) The size of your program source must be <= 4096 bytes in length.
The number of characters excluding whitespace (tab, space,
newline, formfeed, return), and excluding any ; { or } immediately
followed by whitespace or end of file, must be <= 2048.
3) Submissions should be performed using the instructions outlined at,
| http://www.ioccc.org/2005/submit
4) If your entry is selected as a winner, it will be modified as follows:
Your 'build' instructions will be incorporated into a
makefile. If your build instructions *is* a makefile then
it should be portable and usable from within a master
makefile.
Your program source will be renamed using an identifier of
our choice (usually your family name or anonymous) followed
by an optional digit, followed by '.c'
Your entry will be compiled into a file with the above name
minus the '.c'.
If your entry requires that a build file exist, state so in
your entry's remark section. The makefile will be arranged to
execute a build shell script containing the 'build'
information. The name of this build shell script will be your
entry's title, possibly followed by a digit, followed by '.sh'.
If needed, your entry's remarks should indicate how your entry
must be changed in order to deal with the new filenames.
5) The build file, the source and the resulting executable should be
treated as read-only files. If your entry needs to modify these files,
it should make and modify a copy of the appropriate file. If this
occurs, state so in your entry's remarks.
6) Your program source must be able to be compiled cleanly by an ANSI C
compiler, or if there are any compile errors, they must be documented
in the "remarks" section of your submission.
7) The program must be of original work. All submitted programs are
are thereby put in the public domain. All explic -
DS can do movies and music too.
You need a $40 3rd party cartridge, but you can play divx movies, mp3s and read text on the GBA and DS off a flash card. It's an import called Movie Advance There is a good review on Lik Sang but that site seems to be having troubles so here is a Google cache. Another review is at PlanetGC. The good thing about this is that it isn't controlled by Sony like their fucking UMD that no one else can use. Anyone with a flash card reader can use the DS for movies. The downside is that it's another item to carry with you which is bad for those without big pockets or bags. Given that the old GBA roms are a known format, I'm guessing that there will be a lot more third party apps for the DS than with the PSP. Particularly when someone figures out how to get the DS to play games over WiFi without a physical disk. This is a known feature of the DS, but it's not a public spec yet.
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Want a free iPod?
Or try a free Nintendo DS, GC, PS2, Xbox. (you only need 4 referrals)
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Re:Google Cache Version
Google only cache text, not images.
So when using the Google cache link, your browser will often start waiting for images to load before displaying the text. And since these images are Slashdotted, it can take a while. :-p
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try the google cache speaking of google maybe they could get some 'best work-place' competitions going between the two
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Re:At Least they are talking about it
"Any type of attack nowadays will be labeled terroristic."
You mean like Republican Majority Leader Tom DeLay calling removing brain-dead Terry Schiavo's feeding tube medical terrorism?
(The link is to Delay's own site: he's proud of invoking the spectre of terrorism to justify unprecedented government intrusion into personal medical decisions. DeLay also threatened to hold a judge in contempt of Congress for quashing a Congressional subpoena issued to compel the brain dead woman to testify. (Since removed form a conservative web site).
Now, before some winger decides to mod this off-topic, let me spell out what has this to do with IT security.
Very simple: our current "leaders" have shown they'll label anything -- even the legally uncontroversial, medically backed decisions of US judges -- as "terrorism", just in order to win points with their core fundamentalist Christian constituency.
If they'll do it about the private medical decisions of a family, they'll sure as hell do it about IT, if they think they can gain something by so doing. And they've shown that even if that "terrorism" label is obviously bunkum of the first order, they'll go ahead and use it.
Hey, it worked to get us into a pointless war in Iraq: remember when we were told about WMDs and Saddams "ties" to terrorists?
Like the boy who cried wolf, it should be clear by now that when a leading politician (and Delay is only one step away from being Speaker of the House of Representatives, the third in line of presidential succession, he's no fringe politician ) calls something "terrorism", we need to understand he's doing it to whip up our fears -- not to make us safer, but to get what he wants. -
The first link in the Post goes to their HomepageThe first link in the Post goes to their Homepage
Here is the google cache: google cache
Here is the blurb from their page, good luck trying to get the PDF though.President's Information Technology Advisory Committee The President's Information Technology Advisory Committee (PITAC) was chartered by Congress under the High-Performance Computing Act of 1991 (P. L. 102-194) and the Next Generation Internet Act of 1998 (P. L. 105-305) as a Federal Advisory Committee. The Committee provides the President, Congress, and the Federal agencies involved in information technology research and development (IT R&D) with expert, independent advice on maintaining America's preeminence in advanced information technologies, including such critical elements of the national infrastructure as high performance computing, large-scale networking, and high assurance software and systems design. As part of this assessment, the PITAC reviews the Federal Networking and IT R&D Program. Comprising leading IT experts from industry and academia, the Committee helps guide the Administration's efforts to accelerate the development and adoption of information technologies vital for American prosperity in the 21st century. PITAC is formally renewed through Presidential Executive Orders. The current Executive Order is due to expire June 1, 2005.
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Re:DVDjon is my hero
With a name like DVDjon, it's not like he had much career choice.
It's the same as Lou Gehrig dying of Lou Gehrig's Disease. You would have thought that he would have seen that one coming. -
Re:Not surprised
Google to its own rescue
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Re:Let me get this straight:
It sounds to me more like somebody lying to inflate her ego.
But that chip is weird.
Hey, they're "inglorious in plagiarizing"
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Sad to reply to self; here's the MMX dispute of 96
I can't find much information. Is Goodle purging all the cache? I could almost swear that Intel was livid with the AMD k6 architecture using "MMX", as well as Cyrix using its own mimic/derivative or different media extentions.
reported by vnunet.com, and here's the case documents when Intel tried to sue AMD to stop using the 386 microcode.
I can't find it. There's somthing on the tip of my tongue that occured way back in 1999 or a year or two earlier that I can't seem to pronounce. It couldn't be the DEC Alpha IP purchases plit between Intel and AMD or was that such? The DEC Alpha ev6 bus was used by the earliest AMD Athlons, but I don't think that was the dispute.