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You should set up a local router for your local machines to use as an NTP server and tell your DHCP to tell your hosts which NTP server to use. Just watch out when the router reboots since it may have no idea what time it is.

5 years ago I wrote a script that does a traceroute and then finds out of the hosts support NTP.
Its the bottom of my text on NTP Info page

Bit reduction in hashes is vital for many of their uses and that will result in collisions.

There are lots of silly assumptions about crypto that just aren't true. For example thinking that there is a 1:1 mapping of keys. As far as I know, all public / private key crypto not 1:1 but is 1:N with where one private key can have more than one public key and it may be N:M. Since someone is going to argue the point... here is some RSA code

The Australian government likes to mess with the day light offset for sporting events and I think they gave everyone a whole 5 weeks advanced notice a few years back. You get to the point where you just tell computer clocks to keep a common offset and then go change it twice a year.

There are some master time zone files that can be found here:
ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/
On Unix like system you can run a command like # zic australasia (or whatever zone is messed up.. or just run them all).

Then things should work.
Here is a script I wrote up to test this sort of nonsense about half a decade ago....
http://www.abnormal.com/~thogard/timezone.shtml

RSA keys are not 1:1, they are 1:many, many:1 or maybe even many:many.

There is a demo program that does small (16 bit) keys here

The T1000 needs serious tuning to not be a bad machine under every load I've tried.
Its 39 times slower than a 1.25 GHz mini mac doing a single floating point process.
Its integer performance per core is on par with a 500 MHz G4 PPC.
Once its CPU bound, its a real dog but tuning can help some. Under heavy load its slower than a decade old SS1000.
Its RSA engine is fast but its integer performance is so bad that for a single connection, the mini-mac
is faster after 3k of compressed SSL (RSA+RC4) data.
The only thing I have seen that the T1000 is faster at is poorly written multi-threaded java apps. It may work well for programs that are just a mess of indirection to indirection to indirection that are multi process and multi thread.
My tests seem to show that a PPC Xserve cluster node should be faster than the T1000 for the loads that the T1 is best at and much faster for everything else for about the same amount of cash. The loads I looked at were MRTG, email, apache (w & w/o ssl), perl cgi programs.
The boss won't let me do an aerodynamic benchmark of the T1000.

I just love that open NBX system so much. Heres a rant

So why does her windows 3.1 control panel icon clearly show an early amiga complete with one of their early start up screens?
Its shown here.

Ah, thanks. The time I transitioned must have been more of a factor than the platform. The II+ came with the assembly, and the //c had it in the additional (~$50) technical reference manual. I still have both of mine, in the basement somewhere.

off topic... your name looks familiar... oh yeah, you hacked the old garmins - great work! I reverse-engineered the protocol too, but I wasn't on the web at the time so I didn't have a good way to get out the details. Things have changed since then! I didn't open up my gps45 and hack the rom like you did, but I've done that to plenty of other things.

RSA keys are 1 to many. This code shows it

Don't forget that RSA's security is also based on the concept that keys are 1:1 and they aren't.

You only found 2 issues with SPF?
How about a few more

I agree with most of the comments, but I don't quite understand the "No sane firewall is going to let TXT records through" one.

I don't know of any firewall that blocks a specific type of UDP packet.
To a firewall all DNS replies look alike.
Sure, it could parse the data part of a DNS packet in the firewall, but AFAIK no firewall actually does.

-- Should you question authority?

You only found 2 issues with SPF?
How about a few more

Since I wrote that, I've managed to come up with SPF rulesets that cause DOS on some of the common implementations, my dns has been scaned countless times looking for SPF records and I've had over 1000 spam messages with valid SPF records.

This is a really interesting concept. I searched around google for a bit but only came up with this http://web.abnormal.com/~thogard/products/pulsar.h tml, which doesn't take into account the point of the other reply (how do you tell which pulse is which?). If anyone has more info, please post links. As the the other poster's conjecture that one could use directions to do the trig, It'd probably be pretty difficult given how far away these things are - I suspect the accuracy required for any reasonably precise calculation would require antennas far to large to be portable. However, unfolding antennas on a spacecraft might be large enough to provide the accuracy neccesary.

Man I wish I had mod points today.

Their "Open" phone system that uses the H3 protocol which is published just where??? (rumor is at MIT -- anyone want to hunt for it?)

It also seems that all the version of the NBX software up to 4.1.21 have GPL code in them and you can prove it by just asking it. To upgrade to a version where 3com isn't illegally using GPLed code, you have to buy another license. Keep in mind that 3com was one of the few IT compaines that supported the DMCA. Maybe its because the DMCA helps hide the fact they are using open source software without following the terms of its licenses. Details are here.

One other nice thing about their new license scam is once your dealer goes under, your out of luck and when 3com can't find the prior license, you get to rebuy all them all over again. Too bad the best source for info on it NBX Group has given up on the product and is bailing out.

Their "Open" phone system that uses the H3 protocol which is published just where??? (rumor is at MIT -- anyone want to hunt for it?)

It also seems that all the version of the NBX software up to 4.1.21 have GPL code in them and you can prove it by just asking it. To upgrade to a version where 3com isn't illegally using GPLed code, you have to buy another license. Keep in mind that 3com was one of the few IT compaines that supported the DMCA. Maybe its because the DMCA helps hide the fact they are using open source software without following the terms of its licenses. Details are here.

One other nice thing about their new license scam is once your dealer goes under, your out of luck and when 3com can't find the prior license, you get to rebuy all them all over again. Too bad the best source for info on it NBX Group has given up on the product and is bailing out.

I get spam from people with valid SPF records. SPF has nothing to do with anti-spam.

As far as its protecting aginst bounces, thats only going to happen if a few million systems start using SPF which is not going to happen for at least a decade. SPF has too many problems to use in the real world.

Most viruses have a text line that start out:
TVqQAAMAAAAEAAA
since they are mime encoded .exe. Simple solution is to hunt for that tag when the message comes in and kill any message that has it. Should you have a real person sending an exe attachment, they will get the bounce if you reject it while the SMTP connection is still active and there is no siletnly lost real mail. A patch for sendmail can cope with a few hundred thousand messages an hour on pc class servers so its no big deal but I've got a faster hack when it matters.

The 1st spam message I got after I started logging SPF records had a valid SPF record. I've gotten viruses with vaild SPF records. My DNS has already been crawled looking for SPF records that someone else can use. SPF has too many problems to be useful. While it heads in the right direction, its the wrong solution.

I think that RSA's weakest link is the "Euclidian algorithm" which has a few a few other options.
RSA keys aren't 1:1 and while my math isn't good enough to prove it, they are 1:many as this code shows how it works.

I've found if you process the filters as you deal with the message, you can do it quickly but you have to be selective about what you filter aginst and keep it simple. The best way to filter aginst the virus of the week is as the data comes in since you can't bounce it anyway. In the past I even built a patch that simply looks for TVqQAAMAAAAEAAA in a line and blows away the connection. Its good for thousands of messages a minute too.

I keep running into people who have been doing web design since before Mosaic came out. I would say its very impressive to do that kind of prediction.

Has anyone called Canter and Siegel about this recently? You know I got the T-shirt but they still haven't sued me like they claimed they would.

November of 2000 I was in a plane flying from Tahiti to Auckland and the people sitting next to me had been there for a sales conference dealing with film. I was taking picture of the islands and coral heads we were flying over. The woman introduced herself and said she had just been to a conference and asked me how many rolls of film I used on my holiday. I told her I didn't use and and and pull the memory card out of the camera and said I it took like 300 pictures and I had six more. She wasn't happy with that answer.

The correct time to kill a message is when you know who is sending it. That means at the SMTP level. I've got a nice patch for sendmail that even kills messaeg before they are fully sent over the wire buts its not exactly RFC friendly.

I've got a sweet little patch for sendmail that looks for a line starting TVqQAAMAAAAE and simply drops the connection. No problem with viruses here.

A license is an implyed contract. My drivers license is a contract between the state and my self that I will follow the road traffic laws. My pilots license is a contract between my self and the govt where they give me a limimited ability to fly an air plane and I agree to not break their rules.

People get very confused about the term "License" mostly because we learn that our "Drivers license" is a bit of plastic with our picture on it. That isn't true. The "license" is simply an unwritten contract. The plastic bit is a "certificate of license".

I can not think of one case where a license doesn't meet the contract requirement of "exchange of obligations".

As far as how this goes with the GPL, if someone steals GPL code and it goes to court, the results will be 1) they pay for past damages and/or 2) they stop shipping the product or 3) some new agreement is forced. The court has to deal with 2 situations, one is the past violation and the 2nd is future issues. The second can be delt with by simply removing the offending code but that still means the 1st case was a copyright violation wich will result in fines.

I think the FSF should be dealing with violators in the terms of "we will sue you for $MAXCASH if you don't relase your source". They claim they want to make source code free but the actions I've seen so far with 3com's nbx don't seem to back that up. The court wouldn't force a 3rd party to release the code but if the violator has the choice of a cheap way out, they will take it.

Many people have lots of details about the internal structure of cisco IOS since it was common to get at that in the years that DARPA folded into DISA and Cisco was tring to gain market share from Novell. Most of those people no longer work for that group but how many still have source code sitting at home?

Not that it would matter much. Cisco IOS on an AGS+ was rock solid compared to most of the crud out there at the time (say fingerd and washu ftpd).

Besides if cisco joins up with linksys, it puts them in the same group as 3com and their GPL code theft. I reported this to GNU and 3com's latest "fix" has taken out GNU tar, GNU zip and other open source code but you can't get that without a new service contract. The result is 99% of all 3com NBX phone systems are running GNU code with no source. I was sold the device as it being "open" and it contained GPL code so I want source but as far as I can tell GNU backed down in a way that will keep me from ever supporting them or their projects ever again. Is anyone here listed in the GNU Tar files that doesn't like this situation? I've got the email address of 3com's attys.

Linux is made in most parts of the world. Many local goverments must consider locally made products before buying from outside of the county, state, country etc.

Anyone one want to dig up a list of countries where work on linux has been done and then find out how many of them have offical logos (like this or this) and then find out what rules apply and come up with a nice mixed image?

Linux is made in most parts of the world. Many local goverments must consider locally made products before buying from outside of the county, state, country etc.

Anyone one want to dig up a list of countries where work on linux has been done and then find out how many of them have offical logos (like this or this) and then find out what rules apply and come up with a nice mixed image?

Try blocking the right stuff.

I use these patches for sendmail and I haven't seen this virus at all in my mailbox.

It scans the body of the message for ^TVqQAAMAAAAEAAA and the kills the message if its found. It works great because thats the start of a base 64 encoded version of a .exe.

Canter & Siegel's spam. Been there, done that Even got the t-shirt (thats a picture I found on the net). Never got sued for wearing it though.

Why did the control panel icon from Win 3.0 look likes something ripped from from an Amiga? It had the Amiga's (original) logo colors, a large "A" and small computer with a built in keyboard.

Here's a picture

Will this be like the Internet phones I've got? They were such a smashing success when they cost nearly $1000 each! I know so because I saw the press release. Some people I know decided to get in this great business and ordered some of these things. They sold so well I've got nearly 200 left sitting in the warehouse and I would be happy to let them go $100 each. I think the initial order was for about 210 of the things :-)

There are many areas in the world that are having problems with GPS but its not due to jaming, its due to the fact that there isn't a full constilation up. PRN 22 went dead a while back and hasn't been replaced. The current plan is to spread out the sats in that orbital ring (the B plane) to help fill up the gap but that will result in more outages in more places for short times compared to the current 1/2 hour outages seen directly in the flight path. The NavCen are recomending that you change your mask angle to 5 degrees if its set higher (many people use 15 degrees).

Right now you can see the problems on this map (mirrored here). The black areas are where GPS isn't going to give a 3d position and the red areas are where it wont get a 4d (3d+time) fix. The dark blue will have issues if any part of the sky is blocked. I don't think I've seen the GPS status this bad for a long time. Maybe its time to launch a few new navstar sats.

RSA is a pain to decypher because the assumed 1:1 for public and private keys. That isn't true. Its 1:N where N is a very larage number and may be N:M.

this code shows a simple 10 bit RSA in perl (its too slow to do much more) and it will generage one public key and several private keys. Doing it for 1024 bit is left as an exercise for the reader.

RSA's 1:1 is based on a short cut of a nasty operation via the Euclidian algorithm and it turns out the math works quite well if you do things the hard way but it takes a long time even on a modern computer.

You can't use RSA to encrypt 6 if the both p and q are that small but your right 4 and 9 were a lame example. Its been years since I messed with this stuff...

However my mistake there doesn't go agisnt my point that a number thats not prime but somehow passes the prime tests will give other solutions to the RSA puzzle. A simple example is E=17, P=61, Q=123. That gives some interesting results even though q is 3*41.

If we take this:
This example we can see for P=61, Q=53 and E=17
we can generate a key tuple of (17,3233,2753) which will encrypt 123 as 855. The odd thing is that the key tuple of (17,3233,5873), (17,3233,8993), and (17,3233,124433) also decode (or encode) data the same way. A slow perl program to show this is here.

If you pick the wrong prime, there are other solutions. It appears if you pick the right prime, there also might be other solutions. The whole point of my original point is that you don't need to find one number in a 2^2048 haystack, you just have to find a number that also works.

Is it just another trend? I think people are buying these things because they are in the shops to replace their 1.5 yr old dead phone and its the "best model" so they think it will last longer. My top of the line Nokia 8310 has developed connection problems just weeks after its warranty expired. Peole keep asking me if I'm going to get a new Nokia phone since mine worked well for a year. My answer is that its a crap phone and next time I'll try a different brand. Its jsut like the last pair of junk Nikes I bought... they were over priced junk and I haven't even considered "their brand" in more than a 1/2 decade. Maybe its time some more of these compaines were visited (or run over) by the Clue Train

If anyone is interested in the web phones, I've got 130+ of them I would love to unload... Make an offer... they will display most pages that netscape 4 would display.

A copy of it is Here

It would reduce the load on my server. The regex filters in sendmail can be triggered before the body is read. All the spam headers a week still aren't even as big as just one of the bodies from marketing I bounce because of its size.

I've got patches for sendmail that let you filter the message body as well but you have to let it in first but you can bounce the messages at the SMTP transport level.

You understand that some of us edit live binaries don't you?

For example I've got a 3com nbx 100 system. Its closed source (mostly, 'cept for a few things that got linked in). They won't tell me what I want to know so I find out. For example, its password decryption stuff. I need to be able to have an automated program go tell me how much voice mail everyone has and the easy way is use IMAP and their password. Thats kept in a file that I can grab and now I can decode it. Some of the dealers don't like calling 3com to find out how to reset a master password so I wrote up some script kiddie like instructions. They only work if you have physical access to the device and a way to talk to a serial port so it won't compromise the security of the device. If you were going to crack this thing, you would most likly brute force the password since the user id is forced to be "administrator" and the default password can be entered on a phone. A 4 line perl program calling lynx will open it quite nicely.

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No use blowing some small Aussie ISP out of the water.

mirror will be here for a few days

You know places like Fiji, Floridia Keys, Tahiti, Red Sea...
I'm still looking for a nice tech job where I can dive ever other day and will pay for toys.

Most of the Marine Biologist I've meet seem to have fun like Paddy who gives daily lectures to scuba divers at Reef Teach. If your going diving off the Great Barrier Reef, you should see his show first.

If anyone cares, I've got a list of places I've been diving here. BTW, I learned to dive in Missouri...

So how are the african critters that must have water at the right times for there breeding cycles going to compete with the roos that have the ability to put their babies "on hold" for up to two years in different embrotic states when the water goes away? Marsupials in the wild are better at plainning their offspring than a suit wearing business women.

I've seen dogs go after kangaroos and I don't think that the large african preditors would have much better luck than the large native crocks. Big cats are about the same speed and adgility but they are built to take down hooved hearding animals.

Besides when critters escape, then Packer and his buddies can go out and hunt them down.

I'm so close to simply rejecting anything that has 1618 and the word Senate or Bill in the same line. I have patches for sendmail with regex matching in the body but I don't want to reject the email, I just want to hang the connection forever and my patches don't do that. the patches are here but please seend feedback.

Part of the real problem is spamers computers are told to go away nicly and not delt with properly. Most spaming programs are multi-threaded but if 1 out of 100 boxes they touched just held the connections open, it would quickly bog down their efforts.

Powerhouse has a trs-80 model one display thats running an apple program. I wonder how that happned.

The new butt ugly Melbourne Museum isn't fully open yet. Their sci/tech section is still closed but admission is 1/2 price for the 1/3 that is open.

If you have a need to be close to the oldest surving computer, I've got a room for rent across the street from the butt ugly building.

Powerhouse has a trs-80 model one display thats running an apple program. I wonder how that happned.

The new butt ugly Melbourne Museum isn't fully open yet. Their sci/tech section is still closed but admission is 1/2 price for the 1/3 that is open.

If you have a need to be close to the oldest surving computer, I've got a room for rent across the street from the butt ugly building.

Sendmail has a bad habit if not being able to scan the message body so you have to use an external filter.

I've got a patch to fix this for 8.11.1 that uses the built in regex map to allow sendmail to look for a regex in the body of the message.

Theres one way to be sure. We need a penguin-cam.

In an unrelated note if anyone happens to have a camera they want to get rid of that can display decent pictures at 3 to 10 lux, I know someone that has a place to put a camera that a number of penguins walk by every day.

I suspect there are several things that would help classify a computer as vintage.

I'm guessing the most importaint factor is that it has been abaondoned by its maker. Things like a Sun 3 are vintage while a sparcstation 1 isn't (yet). A PDP-11 and most vaxen are but the Microvax isn't yet at least till the end of the month.

I also expect that a minium of 5 years (or should it be 10) is needed. My web server is running on a Sparcstation 1 that is now over 11 years old and its not vintage yet so maybe 10 years should be the cut-off.

I do know the the first computer to do music that they are installing accross the street from my house counts as vintage since its now 50 years old.

Trolling or not, Metallica is marketed to that group.

I haven't seen Jazz marketed towards any group. Same goes with Classical & Gsopel.

Your right about Heavy metal. How many pimple cream ads do you see scaatterd about the videos?
Sure they aren't part of culture but their money still puts coke on the table in LA.

Get a clue. Modern music is about big payoffs and the musicians are just discardable pawns in the game.

If you want to hear bands that play in pubs near where I live, check out my web site