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Sometime soon, Adobe is will let PS and the rest of their software either go subscription or the way of Flash...They don't really care much. Adobe is very much a (scary) data analytics company from now into the foreseeable future...

Helvetica is everywhere for a reason. So is Times Roman. Classic typefaces, what type is supposed to look like.

The last time I did serious font research was designing maps for a GPS-based asset-tracking system. I wanted a font that was distinctive, but not too distinctive. After some looking through Adobe's font catalog I settled on Myriad. It worked fine until word came from On High that we must emulate the visual appearance of Google Maps. So be it.

I use Souvenir for my resume, BTW.

...laura

There's also the Creative Cloud Photography plan, which includes Photoshop CC for $9.99/mo.

https://www.adobe.com/creative...

https://helpx.adobe.com/creati...

Not exactly freeware.

The update changes the behavior of the media cache deletion. With 11.1.1, only files that are within the Media Cache folder’s subdirectories will be deleted. Files that sit next to it will no longer be affected. However, we still strongly recommend keeping the Media Cache folder separate from your original media.

https://theblog.adobe.com/prem...

I believe Premiere Elements is still available as a one-time purchase.

https://www.adobe.com/products...

As another poster mentioned, the DaVinci product is free (and it's a famn good product), but the best thing about the licenced Adobe products is access to the forums.

But from a fiscal point of view, Software was always a subscription, as long as you got your patches and updates. You just never got the bill split up into the initial payment for the software and the subsequent payment for the software assurance subscription, as you had to pay for it all at once.

Technically, anything you buy which wears out is a subscription (rent). If you buy a washing machine for $500, which dies after 5 years (on average) and needs to be replaced with a new $500 washing machine, you are paying $100/year for the washing machine. If you buy a car (new or used) for $20k, use it for 5 years, and sell it for $10k, your car ownership is basically the same as renting for $2k/year.

The resistance to a rental model is mainly because most people ignore maintenance and upkeep costs in their purchase decisions. You'll notice I left out the maintenance costs of the car in the above example and it probably never crossed your mind. So people's cursory fiscal analysis of renting vs buying tends to be skewed against renting, because they leave the maintenance and upkeep costs out on the buying side, but which are included as the norm in renting..

Software is the exception however. Software doesn't wear out. If Office 2003 worked and had all the features you ever needed in 2003, then it still works and has all the features you ever needed in 2018. And your one-time payment for it in 2003 could be stretched out to 15+ years. The only issue with software is security patches. Which for an app really should never be an issue if the system were designed properly (require root/admin privileges for an app to do something which modifies the system, don't run third party scripts by default like Office likes to do).

Adobe's Creative Cloud subscription prices are actually pretty reasonable. $120/year for Photoshop and Lightroom. Those used to have an upgrade cost of $150 and $120 respectively, with a new version coming out about every 1.5 years. So effectively their subscription price is the same as ($150 + $120) / ($120) = upgrading every 2.25 years. So cheaper than if you upgraded every version, more expensive than if you upgraded every other version. Back when I did a lot of photography I used to upgrade every other version, but overall I consider it priced pretty fairly. Except now that I do much less photography, the existing one-time-purchase copies of Photoshop and Lightroom I've still got are more than pulling their weight since I can still run them without needing to pay a subscription fee (they don't try to modify the system or run third party scripts, so security updates are unnecessary).

Likewise, Office 365 is priced pretty reasonably too if you planned to stay current with updates. Purchasing Home and Student outright is $150. A one-seat subscription to Office 365 is $70/yr. So about the same as upgrading every 2 years. 6-seat license is $100/yr, which is equivalent to upgrading every 9 years. But is probably more realistically priced since most home users who bought Office illegally installed it on more than one computer at home. (Microsoft wasn't as nice as Adobe. Adobe allowed you to install Photoshop on multiple computers, as long as you only used one copy at a time. A realistic concession to many people having a laptop for travel, and a home PC which was more powerful for doing "real work.")

I don't consider a subscription model valid for an OS though. The OS should work as long as the hardware works, because the two are useless without each other. The only way I'd consider a subscription model reasonable for an OS is if the seller also rents you the hardware for the same term as the OS subscription,. And takes care of any required software and hardware maintenance and fixes during that period.

you have no idea what Adobe is doing?

The last one shows the Ai Selection and as cool as it seems at first, somehow they show an example where the all magical Ai clearly fucked up on the lady's other arm selection. It does make one wonder what's the "fuck up frequency" of the tool, given that a article made to put the tool in the best light possible is showing a problem.

The main reason to use the full-blown version of Photoshop over other cheap/free photo editing tools is its handling of layers and selections. Seems like it would be painful and time-consuming to use those functions on a touch device. They make extensive use of modifiers like ctrl, shift, and alt/command to rapidly make click and click-drag do different things, avoiding constantly having to change menu options.

I've no doubt the iPad's hardware can handle it (my phone is about 50x faster and has more than a hundred times more RAM than the first computer I used Photoshop on). But simpler is not always better.

Definitely. Because it is Neural.

Are you really so ignorant of image and video editing that you have no idea what Adobe is doing?

Do you even listen to yourself?

No I don't talk to myself, I just post informative information based on what I actually know, from reading, developing, and actually using real world applications.

Maybe you should get out more. Or maybe you are out too much, and that's why the modern digital world is eluding you so badly? I mean, Jesus Christ buddy, your response makes you look like you have Alzheimers or something.

I'll let you have the last response out of pity.

Please review the blog posts by Adobe here: http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlsp... and here: https://theblog.adobe.com/upco... Note that Windows 7 x64 SP1 continues to be supported for the next release of Adobe products.

Please review the blog posts by Adobe here: http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlsp... and here: https://theblog.adobe.com/upco... Note that Windows 7 x64 SP1 continues to be supported for the next release of Adobe products.

Reading through to the original blog post, they are making pretty much the same announcement that many other ISVs make -- when the underlying OS is no longer maintained by the OS vendor, or is in the process of being depricated, they don't make new software on it. To quote the blog:

Microsoft discontinued mainstream support for Windows 8.1 in January 2018. Mainstream support for Windows 7 support ended in 2015. For more information on Windows support, visit the Windows lifecycle fact sheet. Apple has announced macOS 10.14 (Mojave) for the fall of 2018 — and we will continue our policy of supporting the three most recent versions of MacOS.

From my career working at an ISV, these choices are perfectly reasonable, as attempting to support the old OS becomes something of a boat anchor on your ability to develop new features that rely on new features (or security constraints) in the more modern operating system. There's also the matter of dependencies -- if you are dependent upon other software, drivers, etc to make your product, if one of those vendors drops support for the OS, then all the features that depend on that in your product have to gracefully degrade, and have the code added to make it do so, which requires not only the writing of the code, but also documenting, testing and then explaining to customers. Any bug found and filed with the vendor is also very likely to be closed or fixed only in the currently supported operating systems, if it exists there at all. Only very rarely and after a lot of effort will an OS vendor fix something for an OS in the "extended support" (or whatever they call it) phase.

This isn't just an Adobe thing, or a Mac OSX thing or a Windows thing. It happens in Open Source all the time. Projects take advantage of new features that require a certain version of a library or other dependency and then "support is removed" for older versions of Linux. Do people complain about projects not supporting RHEL 5, which ended regular support in early 2017? Or RHEL 4, which ended entirely around the same time? Look at DistroWatch and see how various distros claim support for only certain versions of packages.

Adobe products are pile of shit. Bloated memory hungry and slow. Even on 'fully' supported OSX you can't install Adobe when using HFS that is case sensitive. Straight from the horses mouth.

In Adobe CS5 Extended edition, video editing is comprehensive and efficient with a broad compatibility of video file formats such as MOV, AVI and MPEG-4 formats and easy workflow. Using simple combinations of keys video layers can easily be modified, with other features such as adding text and creating animations using single images.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop#Video_editing

Here's an Adobe video on video editing in Photoshop.

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/how-to/video-editing.html

My Black Friday @ Apple Park Visitor Center was put together in Photoshop because an update to Movavi Editor FUBAR'd the program just hours before I released the video.

In my recent video, I use graphical overlays created in Photoshop. For static overlay with a transparent background, I export as a PNG file. For video overlay with a chroma (green) background, I export as an MP4 file.

When rendering video from Photoshop, it does take a while on my AMD FX-8300 (8-core) processor. Photoshop doesn't use Nvidia GPU for faster rendering.

From what I understand it's fair game at all times
https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/...

Plus the renovation to the light is mostly just to the type of bulb. The Eiffel towers light display is a bit more involved

OSX is the only reason I still am on the platform

Same here. OSX is the only reason I asked for a Macbook for my last upgrade at work rather than a PC. The rest of the designers and developers are on Lenovo laptops, and we have one sad Mac Mini around for when we need to compile for Xcode. Back in 2009 when I graduated design school, Macs were the de-facto standard for designers. They still get a lot of developer love...Adobe's XD software still runs best on macOS, and the super-popular Sketch app is Mac-only. Most of the well-known front end developers that I follow are on Macbooks. Apple's brand and software is still running on the inertia it built up over the last 10 years, although I have to wonder how long that will last.

I used to say that between the superior keyboard shortcuts and availability of Quicksilver I was twice as quick at normal tasks on a Mac as on a PC. Nowadays, with the Windows Key and superior window management in Windows 10, I'm not so sure.

> How would someone who has submitted a work to such a portal convert a Flash animation to an HTML5 vector animation,* or a Flash game to an HTML5 game?

You're doing it wrong.

Use WebGL which uses the GPU instead of Flash which still uses the CPU for rendering

Note: Flash Player on the desktop still uses the CPU to do software rendering

The magic search phrase is: webgl vector graphics

With the prospect of another processor switch and having to spend millions now to develop a code base for two different processor lines, I imagine many will simply drop Mac as a native platform all together.

Right, because Adobe would never develop software to run on Apple's processors.

I don't know if they're really going to switch processors, but if they do, I don't think they'll do it without developer buy-in and some serious upside. One of the possible benefits is that it puts all of their devices on the same platform. You could possibly have the same binaries on a MacBook and an iPad-- though you probably don't want the same UI on both.

https://helpx.adobe.com/analyt...

Add those to your host files.

Result:

Oh no! We're having trouble displaying this Scratch project.
If you are on a mobile phone or tablet, try visiting this project on a computer.
If you're on a computer, your Flash player might be disabled, missing, or out of date. Visit this page to update Flash.

An extra $20-$50 per seat per year is enough that you can't afford it? Must either not be very valuable to you - or you need to hire (and listen to) a decent budget manager. Not to mention, a Photoshop business account license is currently $30/month, or $360/year/seat - just *slightly* more than your supposed $20 each for 5 licenses. (5 *installs*, such as in MS Office home edition is not quite same thing, and in that case the license explicitly prohibits you from using it in a business environment. I don't see any such option mentioned on the Adobe site: https://www.adobe.com/creative...)

And frankly, if your profit margins really are that slim then I'd think the perpetual license would be far more attractive, since a bad year would just mean you put off the next upgrade for a year or two and make do using the exact same software that's been getting the job done fine for the last several years. With a subscription you no longer have that option, and are completely at the mercy of the publisher's to not to raise the price and drive you out of business tomorrow.

Bottom line - if a subscription model would actually save you money, then they'd have very little incentive to move to it.

Speed is always a good thing, but it's got to be viewed as relative to the capability of the product. Right now, with Edge not supporting extensions or plug-ins, it's not even if the same league as the browsers it compares speeds with.

Edge supports extensions, by Plug-ins, do you mean something like Flash which is also supported?

Students have a STRONG motivation to cheat and little in the way of consequences of getting caught.
Expelled? So what? They didn't go to jail. Probably for every 1 expelled 1000 got away with it.

I would suggest educators (1) Use a set of paper records (assignment grade journal) to keep track of
student grades during term -- as the definitive record to fall back on, in addition to keeping a computer record,
and (2) Reconcile any digital summary record at end of term against the paper records ---
if two versions disagree for a student, then check individual papers..

Finally, the grade reports from educator to school should be a signed scan or technology such as an Adobe AcroForm signed PDF using
a signing device from an AATL listed certificate authority.

PDF Digital signature as an example requires Two-Factor Authentication to create: PIN + Physical token specific to a certain person.
Thus keylogging doesn't allow a student to forge a PDF grade report document. The university's "Grade Entry" system,
whatever it is, should then simply be designed to accept the signed PDF form and verify the digital signature before gathering data
into a record together with the PDF attachment; Once data is in a record, there should be no means of editing it other than a professor submitting a signed PDF revising the report.

I had to look up Livefyre because I'm a social media retard, and I almost drowned in my gulp of mountain dew when I saw this on their website:

Engage people with the voices they trust. Their own.

http://www.adobe.com/ca/market...

The url itself is already a cuntpuncher, it has "marketing-cloud" and "experience-manager" in it, as well as "platform". Well played, Adobe, almost got a bullshit bingo in the address bar alone.

I'm not so enthralled by Scratch

Me neither, but in my case it's because Scratch relies on Adobe Flash Player. The HTML player is still marked as "upcoming" and on hold since the fourth quarter of 2014, despite iOS being unable to run SWF for a decade, Android only briefly ever being able to run SWF, desktop browsers making SWF click-to-play by default after having offered click-to-play as an option for years, and SWF facing its end of life in 40 months.

I have been using Firefox since the Netscape days but I'm quickly losing patience with it these last months. It was getting slower and slower, and they kept promising that it would be faster. The last version would be really fast, they said.

I use the developer edition and the nightly (as well as production).
From what I can tell (just by observation), there does appear to be a noticeable upward trend in performance, generally speaking.

I have it on my Macs, and on both of them it often just hangs for tens of seconds during loading a page.

Most of that is the ad networks. They have been getting somewhat out of control lately.
You might want to consider using an ad blocker.

It's getting unusable so I am now thinking about switching to another browser, after more than 20 years. If version 57 turns out to be as bad as it sounds here, FF will be sent out the door.

I wouldn't worry too much about the comments here.
Corporate shills, doomsday bloggers, butt-hurt with axes to grind, special snowflakes, fanboys, victims of marketing... we got all kinds.

It can take a while to form a proper opinion of a particular release.
Most of those making noises here haven't spent enough time on it to form a valid opinion.
And they hate getting called out on it :-)

As for nightly (57), performance seems pretty good to me so far (although I haven't had it very long yet)
By the time it gets into production, it should hopefully be even better.

Which brings me to my question: what is a good cross-platform alternative to FF? I need it to be able to synchronize bookmarks.

Vivaldi (uses the same engine as Chrome) is a pretty good alternative if you want to avoid the privacy issues with Chrome.
They don't have sync quite just yet, but they are working on it and it should be available fairly soon.

And it has to be able to run Flash. I need that for my work, unfortunately.

You might want to read this notice.

Most everyone should be transitioning off of Flash by now. Specially if they are on Macs (Apple started the whole down with Flash thing)
Not to mention that the Flash plugin has been a major source of the very performance problems which you are complaining about.

Having said that, most browsers will still continue to be able to run flash for a while longer. Just not by default.

Since it is for work, one solution to the eventual problem of Flash EOL would be to create a VM
and keep it on an older version of the browser that could still run Flash.

You would need to make sure that it was only used for work, since it would eventually get behind in security updates.

Note that for this purpose, Chrome would not be a good choice (since if forces auto-updates)

Of course, the better solution would be for your company to start the transition out of Flash.
But that may not be under your control or influence :-)

And if it looks like your company isn't paying attention to the Flash EOL problem,
you may want to get out of there before the inevitable crunch.

So how do we go back in time and convince Mike and Matt Chapman to use a product other than Flash to make Homestar Runner?

I saw a documentary which explained how.

Or how do we track down the author of every SWF vector animation

Or maybe just build a Flash runtime in WebAssembly. It's more productive than bemoaning the demise of Flash. The proprietor of Flash doesn't care about their proprietary platform anymore. So if you do care for some reason, then you're the one who's going to have to build it.

I haven't had a Windows machine in a while but when I did (Win 95) CCleaner was a must because uninstall programs were sloppy and and most Windows programmers abused the registry.

Windows 9X was a cobbled together mess until Windows 98SE came out. WinXP was better but still required third-party utilities to fix registry issues. With Windows Vista onward, I no longer needed those programs at home. There are two utilities that I do use at work since remote installs or upgrades occasionally go FUBAR on Windows 7.

If a program refuses to uninstall, use the Microsoft Fix-It utility.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/17588/fix-problems-that-block-programs-from-being-installed-or-removed

For Adobe Reader or Acrobat, use the Cleaner Tool.
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/acrobatcleaner.html

• Cloud9: Excellent, full feature Linux/Web development tool you access from a browser, anywhere
• Inoreader: This is the replacement for the departed Google Reader. Excellent
• Adobe Creative Cloud: OK, full disclosure, I get it free through work. But I'd still pay for it anyway if I had to

Flash is here to stay

Even Adobe is telling people to convert to HTML5. Look at the steady decline in Flash usage. Flash has lost.

Here is a short video of the cipher in action, including decent audio: https://vimeo.com/1763615

Adobe runs the full cipher on their site too, in case anyone wants to take a crack at it from home. To hear the audio you need a Flash plug-in, of course.

In case you didn't know, Chrome is the only main browser left that does not support colored fonts. Actually there are several proposed standards for colored fonts, and Chrome supports exactly none of them. The most promising standard is OpenType SVG. Edge fully supports this and Firefox supports it, too, although they forgot to implement the SVG compression.

Here is more information on this feature: https://helpx.adobe.com/typeki...

And here is an example (looks nicer on Firefox and Edge): https://people-mozilla.org/~jk...

Let's hope we will see this in the not too distant future.

Here's an investor presentation from last week (PDF). It's a long document, but the following is mostly derived from a couple of slides at the bottom of page 3.

It looks like their total revenues for Creative Cloud dipped a few percent and then recovered again over the period 2012-2015, and as of 2016 their annual recurring revenue for that area is up to around $3.5B, compared to annual revenue of around $2.5B back in 2012 when their subscription model was starting up.

Over the same four-year window, it appears that their subscription ARR has been increasing roughly linearly, while their non-subscription revenues are fast approaching zero.

In short, it looks like they are now better off than they were four years ago in terms of annual Creative Cloud revenue, by about 40% if they maintain their current subscription level.

Another figure they mention is current year-on-year subscription growth of 46% outside the US. However, they are deafeningly quiet on what proportion of their overall market that represents or the equivalent figure for US customers. Their overall growth rate is clearly far less than that, so it could be that they're successfully expanding into foreign markets and that's helping to drive their overall subscription growth (probably a good thing for Adobe) but it could also be that sales in foreign markets are covering up a significant reduction in the US as increasing numbers of US customers are cancelling their subscriptions (probably a bad thing for Adobe).

It's also difficult to tell how many subscribers they actually have, since there doesn't seem to be any breakdown of which of the available subscription plans are generating how much revenue or what sort of effects they see from volume licensing, subscribers from different countries, or subscribers paying in different currencies. If we guess an average subscriber is worth about US$500 per year to them in revenues, that would give them around 7 million current subscribers, but this could obviously be way off if say most of the revenues are actually from enterprise customers paying far less than the headline per-seat prices with their volume deals.

Runs perfectly? Screw that.

If you attempt to launch a CS5 product from the GUI, you'll receive an error message that the app requires Java SE 6. Your options are to either install Java or launch the apps from the command line.

Never said they still did. See this post https://forums.adobe.com/threa... from 2013. It did install just like I said (in 2013). So it has, do not anymore, and I can't speak for the future but it would not suprise me if they do it again.

As someone who deploys Acrobat and Reader and their updates across domains, I can tell you that Adobe's documented controls are completely unreliable.

http://www.adobe.com/devnet-do...

The ONLY thing I have ever gotten to work reliably is the option to disable putting an icon on the desktop. Disabling automatic updates, stopping automatic updates but allowing manual update checks, disabling the upsell, disabling usage tracking, disabling the login requirement, setting the default printer path, etc. simply behave however they fucking want to. I've set options with Adobe's customization wizard, manually set registry keys with Adobe's customization wizard, manually set registry keys with GPOs, and manually set options in the MSI with Orca. None of it fucking works as Adobe says it should. Once a user launches Acrobat/Reader, or whenever an update is applied, all bets are off.

That was it. My chrome did the same thing not more than two hours ago...which means Acrobat updated itself silently. Which pisses me off. Now, what pisses me off even worse is that it's hard to turn off auto-update in Acrobat Reader DC and requires either editing the registry or downloading and installing another adobe preference manager program (link to help article: https://forums.adobe.com/threa...). And even worse, the data collection was checked by default. A-holes.

According to Adobe's standards site, the last published change was in 2009. You'd think they'd have Reader pretty solid by now.

The conventional wisdom (that I've been exposed to) would say that on desktops the Flash marketshare would be >95%. Most of that "wisdom" may have come from Adobe itself: https://www.adobe.com/mena_en/... (2011 time frame too).

I knew that Flash was being used less, I just didn't realize a substantial install base didn't have it. Or in other words 23% != nobody.

Er, no, Adode didn't release Flash 24 for Linux on 19th Dec, it was actually 6 days earlier than that. Heck, I even picked it up on my CentOS 7 system on 15th Dec via their convenient repo. I guess after 4.5 years of version stagnation, being almost a week late with the story might be expected...

Er, no, Adode didn't release Flash 24 for Linux on 19th Dec, it was actually 6 days earlier than that. Heck, I even picked it up on my CentOS 7 system on 15th Dec via their convenient repo. I guess after 4.5 years of version stagnation, being almost a week late with the story might be expected...

Er, no, Adode didn't release Flash 24 for Linux on 19th Dec, it was actually 6 days earlier than that. Heck, I even picked it up on my CentOS 7 system on 15th Dec via their convenient repo. I guess after 4.5 years of version stagnation, being almost a week late with the story might be expected...

Yes, unfortunately.

How many of these silly articles are going to be based on Adobe press releases?

And when/how did Adobe manage to convince anyhow that they're some sort of authority on web-based shopping metrics, anyhow? Are they running Amazon's backend or something?

They offer a web content management product - one of the better ones if you trust Gartner reports:
https://www.gartner.com/doc/re...

Their Marketing Cloud offering accounted for a little over 25% of their total revenue last year - $1.3 billion total:
http://wwwimages.adobe.com/con...

And if you trust Gartner reports - they are a leader on several of the magic quadrants charts. So yeah - they do know what they are talking about and they have data to back it up. However, I agree with parent, take with a grain of salt and look for other sources that are not biased in their reporting.

Disclaimer: I don't work for Adobe - I work for one of their competitors in this area.

Where were you looking? Open Control Panel and you find a Flashplayer applet icon.

This page says that Flash player is integrated in IE in Windows 10.

Uh... https://get.adobe.com/flashpla...

Adobe Flash's direct downloads page is now dead

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For the longest time, you could download Adobe Flash for your web browser, for Windows and Linux, maybe OS X too I don't recall.

Now it's dead. This is fucking stupid on so many levels.

This was the page: https://www.adobe.com/products...

Now it's: https://www.adobe.com/products...

At least techspot.com offers the [full installs] Mac and Windows binaries in their Downloads section. I didn't see the Linux one there but maybe it is. But do you trust techspot's binaries?

http://www.techspot.com/downlo...

Adobe Flash's direct downloads page is now dead

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For the longest time, you could download Adobe Flash for your web browser, for Windows and Linux, maybe OS X too I don't recall.

Now it's dead. This is fucking stupid on so many levels.

This was the page: https://www.adobe.com/products...

Now it's: https://www.adobe.com/products...

At least techspot.com offers the [full installs] Mac and Windows binaries in their Downloads section. I didn't see the Linux one there but maybe it is. But do you trust techspot's binaries?

http://www.techspot.com/downlo...

Adobe bought Cool Edit Pro, renamed it Audition, and put it behind a $240/year Creative Cloud subscription (source).