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Here's the babelfish translation:

No wait, it's here.

• "...a data-processing program is patentable, it is not enough that it is new, it is necessary still that it allows a technical innovation independently of its own execution." and ;
  
• "...invention implemented by computer (a software) is not regarded as contributing a technical share only because it implies the use of a computer"

For me the value of Internet access comes down to two (very noble) reasons: Communication, and Information

I can communicate with anyone in the world over email, instant messenging, and newsgroups -- all free; remember that telcos would charge a fortune if you did this over long distance telephone.

The access to Information aspect is huge. I work in the Engineering field, and if I ever run across something I don't know it's only a Google, Yahoo, or AltaVista search away. Anything I'll ever need: historic publications, circuit diagrams, data sheets, research papers, discussion forums are out there for free.

google doesn't bother with extraneous crap. Altavista and AllTheWeb both support more types of searches than google.

A single feature is useless when another engine still returns better results. I still use google for text searches, only hopping over to altavista for a music search.

because you're talking about using the original code directly. That's like saying that by machine translating a copyrighted work (say an article in german using the fish) it'd be OK for you to just use it and publish it however you want.

As long as these people haven't looked at the code the courts shouldn't have allowed it.

Fish translation here

• WebCrawler
• MetaCrawler
• AltaVista
• InfoSeek

> What OTHER search engine do you still use, and why?

AllTheWeb, because they have a nice FTP search as well as audio and video searches.
AltaVista, because they have better boolean and wildcard features as well as audio and video searches and a Google-like toolbar.

> What OTHER search engine do you still use, and why?

AllTheWeb, because they have a nice FTP search as well as audio and video searches.
AltaVista, because they have better boolean and wildcard features as well as audio and video searches and a Google-like toolbar.

Altavista Image Search because its results are sometimes better (and more) than those of the correspondent Google thing.

Alltheweb is quite good. But even there do you see the effects of Google. Just look at the page design and layout. Same thing goes for Altavista and even Yahoo! search.

And I'm really, really glad that Google has this influence. Before Google, most search engines were getting cluttered with advertisements and nasty, slowly-loading designs (yes, that was when modems were prevalent). Google did the one right thing and focused on the important stuff, building a good and fast search engine with a pragmatic, to-the-point, minimalist design and about every function you'd need to find what you're looking for.

That's why I love Google. And also, I for one never really had censoring problems with my searches. And what can Google do when others threaten them with lawsuits? It's those others that we should criticize, not Google itself... I'm rather glad when Google makes a small adjustment (though I don't like it either) that at least allows them to continue to exist instead of being driven out of money.

But bringing up Alltheweb is also interesting in this regard; it shows that nobody can really stop the spread of information, whatever kind it is... if Google is sued, somebody else will link to KaZaA Lite. In this regard, the Web is like a Hydra for free information.

AltaVista - because it was the first search engine, because it provides decent quality results today and because it doesn't censor search results, like Google does.

Google's ability to list up all the pages which a linking to my site (not that there is a reason to link to this page anyway) seems to be sub-optimal.

usually, a link:presroi.de gives me some 30 results.

compared to some 90 results from altavista.

Judging from the referer-Information in my logfile, there are many more links out there.

Google-Watch has already made up its mind about this.

You are right. The main reason searches for Britney turn up some pornographics results is because people are intentially teased by her videos and concerts. This leads to people sexualising her (and RIAA doesn't worry about that because sex sells), which in turn leads to people searching for brittney spears naked (link to AltaVista, because Google censors search results). Because of that people sharing porn and wanting additional exposure add keywords that are likely to increase popularity of the file. Words like "lolita", "teen", "fuck", "cunt", "britney spears", etc. Nobody is using "Celine Dion" for that. :) A word to RIAA: if you wouldn't market a teenage pop idol like a pornstar, nothing like that would happen.

and a quicker to load link which doesnt screw AltaVista so much....can be found here

There obviously was an older, not edited picture on sco's site, as can be seen in alta vista's image search results.

It seems they photoshopped it later.. go figure, heh :-)

Or link to Babelfish and save us the trouble.

AltaVista knows it as well. And AltaVista is better, because it doesn't block sites under DCMA yet.

Boycott Google!

It's impossible to perceive it as neutral if they remove links at the request of others. Currently Google presents biased information regarding Kazaa Lite. I don't think blocking all Kazaa links for certain period (or may be just providing an empty results page with information for users about DMCA and Sharman's threats and a link for those who still want to search for "kazaa", which would lead to all searches, except lite). I am not suggesting they score any points, political or otherwise. I am just saying that bowing to unreasonable requests (legal, but that's an abuse of a bad law) doesn't present a search engine in the best light. I don't usually give a shit about boycotts and I will use Google if I decide that I need it, but for now my default engine is Altavista (and I e-mailed Google about it).

Altavista is now a pretty good search engine. Sponsored links may be annoying, but they are clearly marked and can be removed by a simple Proxomitron filter (remove all pairs that include "*Sponsored*"). I just may be as happy with it, as I was with Google.

This whole issue is just sad but what I wonder is if the same notice was sent to other search engines? I believe Yahoo uses a lot of Google technology so that comparison isn't good but take AltaVista for example. Search for Kazaa Lite there and you see the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth and probably more (got tired of counting) links are links listed in the DMCA suit.

Why is this interesting? Google is a company whose business is to deliver the best results for any given search. If through the process of lawsuits, they no longer deliver the best results, users go elsewhere. So if all these companies target Google and only Google, in theory, eventually they could bring it down to a second rate service. I know you cannot selectively enforce patents (for this same reason), but not a clue about this lovely DMCA law.

I have just tried Kazaa Lite on various other search engines and meta search engines, and without fail they return at least one of the forbidden 8 sites that Google removes:

Altavista

Webcrawler

Teoma

Dogpile

Obviously not a comprehensive effort (I have a 3yr old son to entertain right now and that's much more important!), but it leads to the conclusion that either the complainant thinks the world revolves around Google OR the other sites haven't checked their mail yet!

As others have pointed out, the genie is out of the bottle and so semi-hiding the links is going to be pointless. I loved the written up DMCA complaint--putting the list of banned sites on it is kind of like having an English test question that says: Write down the correct spelling of following word: 'incomprehensible'? .

Here are two articles (part 1 and part 2) about the history of flying submarines. Great stuff. It's in Russian, so you will need to use the fish or just check out the photos.

How about Google?

Umm... Google owns software patents. Sergey is listed as an inventor. Other companies are now resuming the fight for web-search dominance, and this patent is part of Google's defense.

It means that no one else in the US can use their highly-successful ranking algorithm. Google stands to benefit greatly from software patents- I can't expect them to take such an expensive moral stand.

(Amazon.com CEO Jeff Bezos stood against software patents, even though his company benefits from them. But there's much more to Amazon.com than a piece of software. Google basically justs rents access to that algorithm and their webcrawled database- and other companies have equally extensive databases...)

Itanium-2 ranks with SAP bench mark far behind alpha

With the TPC bench mark before a few days could NECs Itanium-2-Server Express5800 still as the fastest system of its class shine, but with the SAP SD bench mark values for animal 2, published today, he ranks with the throughput value of 13.920 SAPS only in the third number of the larger 32-Prozessor-Server. At the point further clearly the alpha processor stands in the AlphaServer Model gs 1280 (1150 MHz) with 23.220 SAPS before Power4 in IBM p690 (1.3 GHz).

Whether in view of the large Vorsprunges of 67 per cent the next Itanium-2-Generation (Madison) can up-get, must be doubted nevertheless. According to Intel the Madison is faster on average only about 50 per cent than the current McKinley.

Criticism harvested meanwhile the Itanium-2 also from Linux Guru Linus Torvalds, which criticized the enormous binary code necessary for Ia-64 in Linux Mailing cunning above all . Also c't it had already deplored (Bodycheck, c't 13/2002 P. 104) that the IA-64-Code produced so far by the compilers is well three times larger than the 32-Bit-Code. The comparison, with AMDs x86-64 the programs become only longer around approximately 15 per cent.

32-Prozessor-Server and SAP SD bench mark for 2-Tier-Konfiguration

Server SD user Mittl. Responsezeit SAPS

HP alpha server GS1280 . _ . _4500. . .1,63s 23220
IBM p690 . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ .4128. . .1,89s. . .20830
NEC Express5800. . _ . _ . _ .2750. . .1,85s. . .13920

Yes, the translation leaves a lot to be desired.
Still it's a lot better than nothing.

The final number of deaths is 21. 16 bodies were already recovered. The Government is close to drop the hipotesis of human failure. Due to the violence of the explosion the bodies will be submited to DNA analysis for identification.

Here is a link to the updated history, unfortunatelly (for most of you) in Brazilian Portuguese, but you all can use the fish. The link also contains a photo of the column of smoke and video footage (Windows/Real Media).

A great loss for my country, but we will not give up so easily to manage this technology (that is my point of view and our president's).

Here's the
babelfish translation of the German article.

Now, can somebody please post a link that translates from babelfish English to real English?

A translation courtesy Babel Fish (for those of us that don't speak Portuguese): "The death of the representative of the United Nations in the Iraq... and now this. One week sad in our history."

For the people who don't read German, here's the page translated by babelfish... Which is, unfortunately readable at best...

"Which one is to there still say, a piece of cream of the superlative. There I get damp eyes."

"Ja was soll man da noch sagen, ein Sahnestuck der Superlative. Da bekomme ich feuchte Augen."

I like the babelfish translation of the article, especially the phrase 'McBride still one drauf.'

I'm not sure what a drauf is, but whatever it is, it doesn't sound nice.

> Altavista and infoseek and Lycos were search engine kings at one time. Whither this trio?

I agree about infoseek and Lycos but AV, while no longer "king", is still a very useful secondary search engine that nicely complements Google when you run into Google's limitations:
- It has a better support of boolean searches (including wildcards).
- It does not limit searches to 10 words.
- It supports searching for audio or video files.

There are other features which can be of interest to some people:
- Incremental refinement of searches using "Prisma".
- Shortcuts.

By the way, they also recently added a toolbar (similar to Google's).

So, while not endangering Google's #1 position, AltaVista (and AllTheWeb too) could still be a useful addition to your search toolbox.

> Altavista and infoseek and Lycos were search engine kings at one time. Whither this trio?

I agree about infoseek and Lycos but AV, while no longer "king", is still a very useful secondary search engine that nicely complements Google when you run into Google's limitations:
- It has a better support of boolean searches (including wildcards).
- It does not limit searches to 10 words.
- It supports searching for audio or video files.

There are other features which can be of interest to some people:
- Incremental refinement of searches using "Prisma".
- Shortcuts.

By the way, they also recently added a toolbar (similar to Google's).

So, while not endangering Google's #1 position, AltaVista (and AllTheWeb too) could still be a useful addition to your search toolbox.

> Altavista and infoseek and Lycos were search engine kings at one time. Whither this trio?

I agree about infoseek and Lycos but AV, while no longer "king", is still a very useful secondary search engine that nicely complements Google when you run into Google's limitations:
- It has a better support of boolean searches (including wildcards).
- It does not limit searches to 10 words.
- It supports searching for audio or video files.

There are other features which can be of interest to some people:
- Incremental refinement of searches using "Prisma".
- Shortcuts.

By the way, they also recently added a toolbar (similar to Google's).

So, while not endangering Google's #1 position, AltaVista (and AllTheWeb too) could still be a useful addition to your search toolbox.

> Altavista and infoseek and Lycos were search engine kings at one time. Whither this trio?

I agree about infoseek and Lycos but AV, while no longer "king", is still a very useful secondary search engine that nicely complements Google when you run into Google's limitations:
- It has a better support of boolean searches (including wildcards).
- It does not limit searches to 10 words.
- It supports searching for audio or video files.

There are other features which can be of interest to some people:
- Incremental refinement of searches using "Prisma".
- Shortcuts.

By the way, they also recently added a toolbar (similar to Google's).

So, while not endangering Google's #1 position, AltaVista (and AllTheWeb too) could still be a useful addition to your search toolbox.

> Altavista and infoseek and Lycos were search engine kings at one time. Whither this trio?

I agree about infoseek and Lycos but AV, while no longer "king", is still a very useful secondary search engine that nicely complements Google when you run into Google's limitations:
- It has a better support of boolean searches (including wildcards).
- It does not limit searches to 10 words.
- It supports searching for audio or video files.

There are other features which can be of interest to some people:
- Incremental refinement of searches using "Prisma".
- Shortcuts.

By the way, they also recently added a toolbar (similar to Google's).

So, while not endangering Google's #1 position, AltaVista (and AllTheWeb too) could still be a useful addition to your search toolbox.

> Altavista and infoseek and Lycos were search engine kings at one time. Whither this trio?

I agree about infoseek and Lycos but AV, while no longer "king", is still a very useful secondary search engine that nicely complements Google when you run into Google's limitations:
- It has a better support of boolean searches (including wildcards).
- It does not limit searches to 10 words.
- It supports searching for audio or video files.

There are other features which can be of interest to some people:
- Incremental refinement of searches using "Prisma".
- Shortcuts.

By the way, they also recently added a toolbar (similar to Google's).

So, while not endangering Google's #1 position, AltaVista (and AllTheWeb too) could still be a useful addition to your search toolbox.

Go to babelfish type in something and translate it from english > german > french > english. If you're creative you'll get some of the funniest translations ever. If you can use slang words it generally loses all context in the translation.

This is why watching foreign films and listening to the french spoken and reading the english subtitles leaves so much out. A simple Tu versus Vous is not directly translateable to english because we don't have formal/familiar built in. Someone saying Tu to an old lady on a bus you don't know in France will get you bitched out.

That'd make Windows some form of negative or negating word, (ie no not- non- anti- kinda thing), making NT trustworthy and Net existent.

And again we prove that automated translation can always be fooled by a well-chosen (or badly chosen) example...

That is, following the article's example as gospel.

translated link

What does it mean for the fish?

translated to russian using systran and back using babelfish I got "spirit is willingly ready but flesh it is weak"

Yep. Replying to my own post, but, after submitting, I found this. Seems someone beat me to the punch. A little expensive at 200,000 yen.

Has there really been a court-case in Germany which stopped SCO from unproven claims about copyright violation in Linux - on the grounds of law against unfair/untruthful marketing?

Yes. A court ordered SCO not to make these claims against Linux until they could be proven in a full court case. To avoid a public court case in Germany, SCO signed a contract saying that they will pay 250.000 Euro if they continue such claims and took their German web site off-line.

A German article with Babelfish translation, another English article.

Several people submitted this story at the time, but somehow it got rejected.

If you can sort out the confusion babelfish will spew at you, point it to this YahooBB Japan DSL price chart. It's not as cheap as the service mentioned in the article, but it is 26Mbit for ~US$41/month (assuming 116yen/US$).

For more clarification of the babelfish machine-translation artifacts, here's a decent translation, but that's from me, so I dunno if you'll trust it -- you know how much I like to make people feel bandwidth envy.

While I'm here, I'll share some choice funny Engrish from the babelfish translation:

As for proposal simplicity! Now we can propose immediately * * Make wait it does not do to utilization! * * Proposal day July 16 day Construction completion due date July 25 day. After the completing the construction, connecting the modem which reaches, the Yahoo! Start of BB utilization! As for details this way.

As for proposal? Telephone number is inputted from correspondence area check just!

As for construction? Because it is construction of NTT inside, being at home there is no necessity!

As for setting? Because video and the CD-ROM help, you feel at rest even alone!

How bout you try your searches on alltheweb or altavista which are both owned by Overture?

Carl

(don't miss EWD 666: "A problem solved in my head," which contains the endearing aperçu: "Goldbach's Conjecture -- I had never thought that I would ever use that!")

Go to babelfish, and paste in the URL where you get the error message (its here) . Choose Japanese to English and hit translate. Presto, you get the article (complete with pics even). Is this some kind of sinister tie up between upgradeware and altavista to draw traffic to them? Food for thought. And as an aside, I would like to know why that is happening, because I am unable to figure it out.

i.e.: "All of your bases belong to us", becomes "Everything of your basis belongs to us."

I could just see the following tho, chatting with a friend in Japan...

Me: "How are you doing?"
Friend: "What you say?"
Me: "My truck requires a lot of expensive repairs."
Friend: "Sombody set up you the lemon!"
Me: "I must be going, time to do laundry."
Friend: "Move 'Biz' for great whiteness!"

But I already have a friend, who speaks perfectly good english, who begins letters like so... "Hallo you, parti greetinks! Em selflessly sempling dekedent kepitalist bourgios fud for parti reeserch rekwirements. Iz terrible, meess borsht!", etc... It all started years ago with some reference to Rocky and Bullwinkle...

I just use Babelfish if needed. It's ok for IRC - helps to translate what they're saying into English - even if you can write in a different language. Translators don't have much common sense though - and they are very literal....