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You mean they won't let me get my daily fix of Badger Badger Badger?

Seems to have been converted to HTML5 using Swiffy.

Over the past few years, Firefox has implemented Web APIs to replace functionality that was formerly provided only by plugins.

But will they play Badger Badger Badger?

Until that can be emulated on the "replacement functionality", removing Flash is a fundamental impact on the Internet Experience. ;-)

In terms of just straight vector animations, either canvas+JavaScript or SVG. In terms of interaction with vector animations and raster graphics or video, canvas+JavaScript.

What tool do you recommend for artists to create animations that are played back using a canvas+JavaScript engine? For example, what would someone use to make the next Badgers?

Everyone is on board, but (at least for decent performance with vector graphics, where current IE releases lag significantly)

Windows XP will never get IE 9, which depends on DirectX technologies introduced in Windows Vista (or introduced in Windows 7 and backported to Vista). The closest they'll ever get is the Google Chrome Frame plug-in, whose installation I predict corporate IT departments will be more reluctant to authorize than Adobe Flash Player.

Next month or so we will get a headline of "Thief thief Thief thief thief thief Thief thief"

Mushroom mushroom. How do you expect Thief the game to fit into this?

http://badgerbadgerbadger.com/

Re-create Badgers in Flash. Once you can do that without adding more than 50% to the file size, and you can provide a write-up about the tools you used, only then will HTML5 be ready for prime time.

You're attacking a straw man. HTML5 will not be able to completely replace Flash for at least, say, five years. No one denies that. The reason HTML5 will win in the end is because of the advantages of competing implementations in several browsers vs. implementation in a single closed binary. Even if Flash always has more features than HTML5, it won't help if HTML5 is faster, more stable, and installed by default. All the major OS and browser vendors hate Flash and are happy to make it scary or difficult to install Flash – or impossible, in the case of the iPhone. HTML5 will work out of the box within a few years, and have feature parity for practical purposes.

Yes, authoring tools are a problem. But if that's the only long-term advantage Flash has, then it's in Adobe's interest to simply support HTML5 as an output format for all their tools. They don't make money off selling the Flash player; they'll adapt their tools to whatever the best output format is.

HTML5 will win. First bit by bit, then more rapidly as Flash's market share becomes lower. I'm going to predict, for the record, that Flash will be clearly moribund in less than five years, used almost exclusively on unmaintained sites and (maybe, for some simple things) as a fallback for old browsers.

The goal of a website changes depending on the website. I have no idea really what the point of badger badger is, but who are you to say it's an invalid goal? As someone else mentioned, that website would not be easy to make in HTML 5.

Re-create Badgers in Flash. Once you can do that without adding more than 50% to the file size, and you can provide a write-up about the tools you used, only then will HTML5 be ready for prime time. (One comment a couple stories back suggested rendering each frame of the SWF and then encoding that in H.264 or WebM, but that would increase the size far beyond the current 463 KB.)

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I thought it was "badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom".

Oh wait, Apple doesn't like Flash.

With the exception of the old-style vector-animated .swf stuff

And it is this "old-style vector-animated .swf stuff" that will keep Flash Player installed on people's PCs. Ever heard of All Your Base, or Hatt-baby, or Hyakugojyuuichi, or Badgers, or Weebl and Bob, or Homestar Runner? All vector-animated. Newgrounds? Entirely vector-animated until Numa Numa Dance proved the concept of FLV, and the vast majority is still vector-animated thanks to YouTube siphoning off the authors who would have used H.26x or VPx. For example, Hatt-baby is 1 MB, and it'd probably be ten times bigger if rendered and encoded in H.264.

Agreed. Someone who wants to replace all the Flash on Newgrounds with HTML5 should first try porting Badgers and We Drink Ritalin to HTML5. Do that and I'll admit that HTML5 is ready to replace Flash.

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Likewise, Badger badgers Badger badgers badger, badger Badger badgers. (UW taxideans harassed by UW taxideans harass other UW taxideans.) Oh, and mushroom mushroom.

Flash is a closed standard. But even if it was and open standard, H.264 would still beat it quite handily in video quality and file size (bandwidth).

Would a vector animation like Badgers really be smaller as H.264? The closest contender here involves scripting a <canvas>.

Why not just display the video as an embedded stream?

Because Badgers would take a lot more bytes as an embedded stream than as a vector animation.

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Argh! A snake! A snake!
Snake... Snake...
Oh, it's a snake!

if it helps to move more towards web standards then I don't care about the means to the end..

So what will replace Flash on sites like Newgrounds, which use Flash for vector animation? Will it be canvas or animated SVG? Let me know when badgers can dance on iPad; only then can Flash be obsolete.

Once someone ports Badgers to HTML5 Canvas, then it'll be safe to put Flash to sleep.

Today, there is even more data wrapped up by Flash.

True, OGV is an alternative to H.26x video in Flash containers. But what alternative to Flash do you offer for making vector animations like Badger Badger Badger and most of what's on Newgrounds? True, one can hack something together with JavaScript and SVG, but nobody has made authoring tools for that.

Oh, what the heck, I got karma to spare.

Here, have a nice day:
        http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

        -dZ.

(Maybe if we built a huge wooden badger.)

FTFY. ;)

Thats what is really stopping me from getting an iPhone, because I can't access badger-net.

...is still alive!

The MP3 takes slightly longer to play once than the animated GIF.

Hence, you watch it a dozen times, and it gets really badly out of sync......

Much, much worse than.

http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

You may have gotten rid of splash pages, but you will never get rid of the badgers-

http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

Proof!

The only channel you need... right here!

did someone say badger?

So what your claiming is that this intellectual property clearly originally dates to this:

http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

and that clearly the great alien minds who tried to explain this to us simply oversimplified and explained it with a dancing flash animation for kids?

Man-eating Badger link.

I would so love to buy a pint for twelve British soldiers (or reasonable facimilies) for singing
this and put it on youtube.

http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

It's a musical and it goes something like this:

*Sung to the tune of Badger badger badger*

Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky

UNIQUE! UNIQUE!

CaClicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky Clicky

UNIQUE! UNIQUE!

Oooooooh, a rare, ooooh it's a rare.

(Repeat ad infinitum.)

A preliminary mockup of the effort can be found here.

Everyone knows that badgers are strictly a web 1.0 phenomena. (it's been around since the web went from 0.9b4 to 1.0 RC1)

Oh - anyone who hasn't already seen the animation linked above, make sure you watch right to the end - the punch line is hilarious! ;-)

It's hard enough for me accept the name "Ubuntu", let alone their release names.

You should listen to this FLOSS weekly then. Apparently they have a dance for each release (Dapper, Edgy, Feisty etc.), the dance for the Breezy Badger release was taken directly from badgerbadgerbadger.com

Shuttleworth and crew got up in front of a cinema full of people to do their Badger Dance. Anyone got links to them performing any of these dances? I found the Warty Warthog dance, but it's a bit lame.

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[WTF?]

That is not true

Watching bouncing badgers made me bounce! http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/

And there's a big ol snake - snake a snake oh its a snake as well...

One too many 'money's on every line. (Yes, I'm that sad, I tried singing along).

And, you left out the oblig link

"What if we build a large wooden badger..."

What the Morris worm gets on the list but not Outlook Express and IE 6? I ask you, which programs are more vital to the virus writing commmunity than these. Where's flash or animated GIF's? The technoliges that allow annoying ad's to exist as well as internet classics like hamster dance and badger badger badger. These are the technoliges that brought the internet into the golden age.

Missing sites
Because the web is all about the power to annoy

Zombo.com
Badger Badger Badger

and of course
Hamster Dance

Badger badger badger badger...

"Diablo Diablo Diablo", sung to the song of "BadgerBadgerBadger"

Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click

UNIQUE UNIQUE

Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click

UNIQUE UNIQUE

Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click

Oooooh, a rare... ooooh it's a rare!!!

Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click Ca-click....

(Repeat ad infinitum)

I'm struggling to think of an Internet meme that went from funny to downright annoying as quickly as the FSM.

Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM

Really, how can you trust any animal featured in something so obviously chock full of subliminal messages? Don't tell me you use Python, too...

I don't know, but 'SongBadger' makes me think of this madness: Badger Badger Badger.

Finally, a website that succeeded in influencing US politics!