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Twin doctors, one eats nothing but fats and the other eats nothing but carbs, for a month. They document it, they work out, they do tests.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programme...

The result (spoiler alert), either is not great. Eating only fat cannibalizes your muscles, and makes you not get any enjoyment out of food. Whereas eating only carbs makes you feel hungrier all the time.

But their conclusion had a twist, the main problem is processed foods that have a 50/50 mix of fat and carbs. An excellent example is whipped cream. Your body would reject you drinking pure cream, and also pure sugar. But mix them together, and you cant stop eating it! Same with many of our favourite foods, ice cream, doughnuts. All have the 50/50 mix that vendors long ago realized was the most addictive mix. Your body basically never gets the signal to stop eating.

Anyone who is interested should check it out.
http://kickass.to/usearch/hori...

"What's going on in Ukraine isn't a revolution, it's a fascist coup overthrowing the democratically elected government because they couldn't stand losing the last election."

Um, no. The president was impeached by the democratically elected parliament due to the fact he was no longer representing the interests of the democratic majority. This is a case of democracy in action I'm afraid, not some kind of subversion of democracy.

If you don't support what the protesters achieved in the Ukraine then you don't support democracy, it's as simple as that.

Yes he won democratically, but that doesn't give him a right to stay in power indefinitely, or even for his whole term if the other elected house decide to support the will of the majority who have now changed their minds about him.

Ethnic Russians are a minority in the Ukraine, he won by getting the support of all the ethnic Russians and some ethnic Ukrainians. He lost the support of the ethnic Ukrainians plunging him into minority support by reneging on previous promises that he got elected on, and he lost his position as a result.

Just because he screams and cries and calls it a coup doesn't make it so, parliament voted to impeach him by 328 votes to 0 through standard due process. I'm sorry if that's inconvenient to your pre-determined bias. The whole point in impeachment is that it's for getting rid of elected representatives who the population no longer have any faith in, but who wont step down of his own accord, so exactly the right thing was done here, this was a 100% legitimate ousting of him:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...

Except that GP was not talking about copying the US' computer-based espionage operations, but the US' various illegal wars.

The story is about Russian hacking. Naturally the subject won't turn to Russian hacking, or even Russia's invasion of Ukraine, but to false allegations of "illegal" wars by the US. Typical, and a diversion.

So, which "illegal wars" is the US uniquely "guilty" of?

You know, there is a bit of a mess unfolding in Ukraine. There are pro-russian and pro-european factions and the russians are obviously supporting the former -- with a completely illegal show of force.

I've heard.

Less well known is that the pro-european factions supported by the West are largely far-right nationalists. Neonazis, pretty much. See, e.g. this piece by Max Blumenthal.

Yes, I'm familiar with Russian charges that they are going to fight fascists in another smaller neighboring country. That was the excuse to invade Finland. The charge is recycled to invade and take territory from Ukraine.

During the Stalin era, Soviet propaganda painted Finland's leadership as a "vicious and reactionary Fascist clique". Marshal C. G. E. Mannerheim and Väinö Tanner, the leader of the Finnish Social Democratic Party, were targeted for particular scorn.[52] With Joseph Stalin gaining near-absolute power through the Great Purge of 1938, the Soviet Union changed its foreign policy toward Finland in the late 1930s. The Soviet Union began pursuing the reconquest of the provinces of Tsarist Russia lost during the chaos of the October Revolution and the Russian Civil War. The Soviet leadership believed that the old empire had ideal security and territorial possessions, and wanted the newly christened city of Leningrad to enjoy a similar security. -- Winter War

Yes, that is all too familiar.

As for Max Blumenthal, I'm aware of his work. I don't consider his views useful given their crank fringe attributes.

Are Mainstream Liberals Embracing Max Blumenthal’s ‘I Hate Israel Handbook’?

You can see the nonsense in his piece that you link to. As part of the "proof" he mentions "white supremacist banners and Confederate flags," but somehow passes over the British, French, Canadian, and other flags present. Does that mean that the Ukrainians are also secretly French, British, and Canadian too, or just crypto-Confederates? It contains no small bit of rubbish. He is a useful idiot making excuses for Russia's invasion.

Besides, if it the concern that prompted the invasion really was fighting "fascism," why didn't Russia take care of their own neo-Nazi and fascist problems at home first? It isn't a small problem, and they have been letting it bleed into Ukraine.

Russian Neo-Nazis Are Now Beating Up Gays in Ukraine
Russia neo-Nazis jailed for life over 27 race murders
Russia: Far-Right Nationalists And Neo-Nazis March In Moscow
Viral Vigilantism: Russian Neo-Nazis Take Gay Bashing Online
Russian Neo-Nazis Made These Horrifying Videos of Anti-LGBT Attacks

The Russians seem to be good at finding fascism and fighting it in all their neighbors, not

From the BBC:

"HMP Grampian will also have a dedicated unit for training prisoners for a return to work when they are released. The unit will include a telephone marketing centre."

The only problem I see that being in prison already makes trying to sign you up for a scam less of a risk for the operator, but I digress :)

Chances are that he's not from a country which sentences people to gang-rape:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...

Sure, it's a cultural thing; best not interfere or comment, right?

As for english opinion on independence, you don't get a say because that is not how it works globally. Read the news and educate yourself chappy.

As for Labour government, you would have voted for it all by yourself
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I'm Scottish but have lived in London and have done for 10 years so I can't vote either. I think the only way you will see sensible change in England is when an independent Scotland performs much better. Or maybe the McCrone Report is too scary.

Why don't you read your own fucking national news you total waste of space. The english don't get a say because it is not the global norm for the non-separating part to get a say. Use some common sense.

Yes, they changed the projection in around 2005. The new format did indeed suck - take a look at the 'this is how weather maps look now' image on this page. It was a triumph of 3D prettiness over usability and produced wonderfully unhelpful graphics like this and there was a lot of sulking over it, not so much because of nationalist fervour, but more because it was crap. The BBC themselves claim they had 16,000 complaints. So they tweaked it, significantly.

It's a shame that the BBC's obsession with shiny things produced a weather forecast that sucked, and it is indeed quite possible that they didn't recognise how much it sucked because of inner-M25 London myopia, although if so the joke's on them because a significant proportion of BBC staff were moved to Manchester fairly shortly thereafter. Since the BBC produces a lot of things that are shiny but happen to suck it doesn't seem necessary to attribute the weather forecast to a subconscious urge to portray Scotland as negligible. Occam's razor suggests that the simpler explanation might be that whoever outsourced the weather forecasting isn't half as smart as they think they are.

Yes, they changed the projection in around 2005. The new format did indeed suck - take a look at the 'this is how weather maps look now' image on this page. It was a triumph of 3D prettiness over usability and produced wonderfully unhelpful graphics like this and there was a lot of sulking over it, not so much because of nationalist fervour, but more because it was crap. The BBC themselves claim they had 16,000 complaints. So they tweaked it, significantly.

It's a shame that the BBC's obsession with shiny things produced a weather forecast that sucked, and it is indeed quite possible that they didn't recognise how much it sucked because of inner-M25 London myopia, although if so the joke's on them because a significant proportion of BBC staff were moved to Manchester fairly shortly thereafter. Since the BBC produces a lot of things that are shiny but happen to suck it doesn't seem necessary to attribute the weather forecast to a subconscious urge to portray Scotland as negligible. Occam's razor suggests that the simpler explanation might be that whoever outsourced the weather forecasting isn't half as smart as they think they are.

Yes, they changed the projection in around 2005. The new format did indeed suck - take a look at the 'this is how weather maps look now' image on this page. It was a triumph of 3D prettiness over usability and produced wonderfully unhelpful graphics like this and there was a lot of sulking over it, not so much because of nationalist fervour, but more because it was crap. The BBC themselves claim they had 16,000 complaints. So they tweaked it, significantly.

It's a shame that the BBC's obsession with shiny things produced a weather forecast that sucked, and it is indeed quite possible that they didn't recognise how much it sucked because of inner-M25 London myopia, although if so the joke's on them because a significant proportion of BBC staff were moved to Manchester fairly shortly thereafter. Since the BBC produces a lot of things that are shiny but happen to suck it doesn't seem necessary to attribute the weather forecast to a subconscious urge to portray Scotland as negligible. Occam's razor suggests that the simpler explanation might be that whoever outsourced the weather forecasting isn't half as smart as they think they are.

Have you ever heard a legitimate (i.e. excluding religious) argument against gay marriage?

How about arguments against it made by gays? There are at least some who believe that the gay-marriage movement is unnessary or counter-productive.

For example, this essay by a gay man can be found on the BBC website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/maga...

And here is a blog by a gay man who disavows the gay marriage movement: http://nogaymarriage.wordpress...

Here is a site with lots of links on the subject: http://www.againstequality.org...

Admittedly, the positions taken in these essays are not as strong as those of certain religions organizations, but they are definitly arguments against gay marriage.

Even with todays technology

Luckily, by the time we're really ready to build a space elevator, we'll be using tomorrow's technology.

I honestly can't imagine why people try to "manage" something like this especially when you have all of these international partners each with their own agendas running the show. It's a subcontractors dream really, get a nice fat contract and have a big charge for changes/delays... I'm sure the subs are getting very, very rich right now off of ITER.

You can't build something this complex under the model that's being used and unfortunately ITER is an epic fail. Even back in 2009, people were warning of the problems with it and still those haven't been corrected apparently. Given that we're 8 years in, I think it's time to throw in the towel considering it was supposed to be a 10 year build.

For comparison, the closest model I can think of, the LHC and the international cooperation that built it, despite it's few successes has had numerous hiccups and failures despite taking decades to plan and build. If the International community really wants Fusion power they just need to pony up to one prime contractor to build it based on the input from a team of scientists and get rid of the carved up mentality of the construction.

Except for the rape thing.

Q&A: Julian Assange and the law

The founder of the Wikileaks website, Julian Assange, faces rape and sexual assault allegations in Sweden. In May, he lost his appeal to the UK's Supreme Court against extradition to Sweden and in June he took refuge in the embassy of Ecuador, which has granted him asylum.

No. he is not accused of rape. He has been accused of nothing.

Q&A: Julian Assange and the law

The founder of the Wikileaks website, Julian Assange, faces rape and sexual assault allegations in Sweden. In May, he lost his appeal to the UK's Supreme Court against extradition to Sweden and in June he took refuge in the embassy of Ecuador, which has granted him asylum.

Gran Torino was set in a lower-class neighborhood. You may or may not have noticed the street gangs. Street gangs are not a feature of a middle-class neighborhood.

Everybody thinks they are "middle class". I am also sorry to break it to you that, evidently, you are lower-class.

Well, I am always willing to learn more about US culture, and if that, a district of detached houses with lawns and garages, was a lower class area the US is wealthier than I thought. Admittedly, it did look a bit run down, but I would have judged a lower class area as one with old, run-down terraced houses divided into apartments, and I've seen those in US movies too. The fact that street gangs were in an apparently middle class district was my point.

As for my being lower class, well, LoL, that's a very rash assumption about someone you do not know! I have been called a lot of things, but that's a new one. Keep then coming! No surprise though that most (not all) people think they are middle class because most people are middle class, in the UK anyway..

OOXML was inappropriately fast tracked, and MS leaned on members of the standards body to vote in favor of OOXML. MS is a convicted monopolist in both the US (United States vs. Microsoft Corp., 2001) and Europe (Microsoft Corp. v Commission of the European Communities, 2007). MS agreed to stop strongarming their users into using the Internet Explorer browser by offering choices, then due to a "technical error" in Windows 7 service pack 1, failed to fulfill that promise for 14 months starting in 2011. In March 2013, Microsoft was fined, again, for that failure.

For years, anyone who tried to buy a music player that could play the Ogg Vorbis format would have no luck in the US, thanks to Microsoft trying to kill competition to their WMA format. The very same hardware, such as the Samsung Yepp YP-U2 music player, had different code in the ROM between Europe and the US, with the European version able to play Ogg Vorbis, and the US version not.

Another dirty stunt was Microsoft's support of SCO Unix when they tried to extort license fees from innocent users of Linux, which dragged on through 2008.

They did make a movie.. At least a TV movie. BBC made a great little show featuring the war between Sinclair and Acorn called Micro Men. It was well done, IMO.

It might be possible that the advantage of receiving long telomeres from an old father is more than offset by the disadvantage of higher levels of general DNA damage and mutations in sperm

It's more like 1 in 15. At least according to this article.

Apparently a simple comment can cause quite a stir.

I'm very well aware that religion is not a race, however, when you have a bigot like the one I replied to, his world view is splitting races along religious lines.

No - its you who seems to confuse race and religion. I am quite aware that there are white muslims, black Muslims, brown muslims, and muslims of every race and colour you can think of. They are all as bad because of their belief in a violent, intolerant religion, not because of their colour.

Apparently a simple comment can cause quite a stir.

I'm very well aware that religion is not a race, however, when you have a bigot like the one I replied to, his world view is splitting races along religious lines.

No - its you who seems to confuse race and religion. I am quite aware that there are white muslims, black Muslims, brown muslims, and muslims of every race and colour you can think of. They are all as bad because of their belief in a violent, intolerant religion, not because of their colour.

In this day and age, where laws do not only grant equality of rights, but try to enforce equality of results, whenever there is a gender gap it is because it is part of what makes us different and the freer we get to choose the greater the gender gap will become. In a general manner, social gaps that can be closed by force are social gaps that should not be closed.

Wow, you know what, you might know what the fuck you're talking about, since unlike the feminist and sociologists hypothesis that men and women are equal blank slates that society writes identity upon your concept is ACTUALLY SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE. So much evidence that it's disturbing any rational person with two eyes would think otherwise.

What's telling is that these feminist social justice warriors have been causing real harm by suppressing the FACT that men and women are different even down to the cellular level. I don't know about you, but if medicines act differently on men and women I sure as fuck would like to know so that we don't overdose our boys and girls. The fucking feminists don't give a shit about what's right if it contradicts their assumption based ideology -- There are two types of feminists: Evil, or useful idiots who lending political power to the evil ones... Like Mary P. Koss of the CDC who is redefining rape exclude male victims and marginalize female perpetrators -- She's fucking evil because most rapists have been raped or abused themselves, so not going after female perpetrators creates more female victims of rape in the next cycle of violence.

In other news, Baidu has told the users of its Baidu Eye that they can do whatever they want with hardware they have legally purchased. If Google trys to restrict their glass users, someone else will quickly step into the market to take their place.

Only in a way that doesn't matter. They're not shooting at each other or maneuvering to shoot at each other. They're not at war.

Actually they still do shoot at each other in various ways. This happened only a few years ago.

'North Korean torpedo' sank South's navy ship - report

This is just a sample, there are other incidents that happen in the DMZ or other places that aren't covered here.

Timeline: North Korean attacks

Only in a way that doesn't matter. They're not shooting at each other or maneuvering to shoot at each other. They're not at war.

Actually they still do shoot at each other in various ways. This happened only a few years ago.

'North Korean torpedo' sank South's navy ship - report

This is just a sample, there are other incidents that happen in the DMZ or other places that aren't covered here.

Timeline: North Korean attacks

....only read their content for some nasty purpose like denying entry as a tourist for a twitter post they didn't like (US authorities already did that).

The "nasty purpose" is to prevent people from being killed, including Europeans - both in Europe and the US. If you think that similar things don't happen in Europe, you are misinformed.

This happened at Stuttgart: German held at airport after bomb-in-briefs joke

As to the incident you mention:

Caution on Twitter urged as tourists barred from US

... holidaymakers need to learn to be ultra-cautious when it comes to talking about forthcoming trips, particularly after 9/11.

"Posting statements in a public forum which could be construed as threatening - in this case saying they are going to "destroy" somewhere - will not be viewed sympathetically by US authorities," it told the BBC.

"In the past we have seen holidaymakers stopped at airport security for 'joking' that they have a bomb in their bag, thoroughly questioned and ending up missing their flights, demonstrating that airport security staff do not have a sense of humour when it comes to potential risk."

Not really terribly different than what happened in Germany.

You should also understand that the US, Canada, EU, Australia, New Zealand, and various other countries all trade intelligence information to varying degrees to try to keep their citizenry safe. The US has helped foil plots in various European countries on many occasions.

NSA helped foil terror plot in Belgium, documents, officials say

The US has good reason to look towards Europe since there have been many terrorists there plotting against the US. One of the 9/11 attack teams came out of Germany. And European laws in the past have often render various countries almost toothless in dealing with extremism.

The EU is a coalition of nations that makes for convenient travel and trade, but national sovereignty remains. If you are French, Poland is pretty much as foreign as the US is.

Did you even click the link? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-2...

The Saudi national, who has been held for 11 years and is one of 164 inmates, has not been charged with any offence and has been cleared for release from the prison in Cuba.

He was cleared for release in 2007, still hasn't happened. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

Wow, did you really just defend Gitmo? Because holding someone for 12 years without any sort of charge. Yeah, way to wave the 'freedom' flag.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-2...

Mod parent up.

I'm getting bored of articles about Venezuela's so-called dictatorship. Ask yourself:

1. Why is Venezuela's democracy questioned when former US President, Jimmy Carter, whose foundation monitors these things, says "of the 92 elections that we've monitored, I would say that the election process in Venezuela is the best in the world"?
2. Why does the media spend so much time vilifying Venezuela's democracy when our friends in Saudi Arabia chop off the head of a princess in a car park, ban women from driving and do not have elections but have a rather nasty dictator? "Ignore that man behind the curtain" - apparently it's hateful little Venezuela with their elections that keep voting in socialists that are the real problem not the Islamic dictatorships of the Middle East with whom we can more easily negotiate oil supplies.
3. Does it have anything to do with Venezuela having the world's largest proven reserves of oil? And that despite all the animosity between Venezuela and the United States, it still is the fourth largest exporter of oil to the US? Or could it be that it used to have a habit of threatening to stop selling oil to the United States? A self-destructive move but one which it had every right to do.

Venezuela is undeniably badly run. But in a democracy, a country has the right (within reason) to run their affairs as they see fit.

Which of the thousand examples do you want?

The UK did not want to give the vote to prisoners. They voted against it through to the EU courts.

The prisoner voting thing was a decision by the European Court of Human Rights, which is not an EU institution. If you want to criticize the EU, please inform yourself a bit better first.

Regarding immigration: yes, you have to let those foreigners in because that's what your government agreed to after a democratic process. In fact, the UK has traditionally been one of the biggest supporters of freedom of movement...

What is a spectacular crash in software? ... Software just doesn't fail that catastrophically

Wut.

Oh yes it does. If you don't realise that Internet security is already a catastrophe then I just don't... you really really need to get out more.

We're living through the biggest security and privacy disaster in the Internet's short history. We don't yet understand the full dimensions of the damage, but we understand this: it was almost entirely preventable. Inexcusably shoddy software workmanship, defended with exactly the argument you're making, is what caused this.

We won't progress as an industry until we learn the meaning of "first do no harm". First, deploy no root exploits to your customers. Then we can talk about efficiency, productivity, market forces, and what colour the fifth pixel from the left on the splash screen should be.

Unless you're this guy, who's done the same shit twice now.
http://idle.slashdot.org/story...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/maga...

We don't even know jack about humans...

BBC article on human presence in Britain one million years ago. With a nice map showing that Britain was not an island at that time.

According to the BBC the new Director of the NSA says:
"There's no place where it's an analyst and a database and you can search for whatever you like and there's no record and no after the fact," Mr DeLong says.

So it should be pretty easy for them to figure out which information Snowdon got and when. Unless nowhere means unless outside of Fort Meade...

Phillip.

I submitted a "Flag as inappropriate" for the game from within the store for this exact reason. By fraudulently boosting their app's score they're destroying the value of the rating system across the entire Play store. Google needs to update the T&Cs to outlaw this sort of behaviour (even entirely forbidding in-game rating) and either force EA to change this in the game or remove it from the store.

Of course I doubt they'll pay any attention, but if there is enough of a fuss they might have to. It's made it to the BBC News site which is pretty "mainstream".

Well ... someone can always set up a new exchange elsewhere. It's not like it's black magic. You just need to have the funding in both currencies to be able to support the exchange. There are lots of private currency exchanges, who will happily convert national currencies. If they trusted in BTC, they could easily add that to their portfolio.

I could set up the better BTC/USD exchange tomorrow, but since I only have (checks wallet) 0.00000889 BTC, and almost a comparable amount of US currency, I wouldn't work very well. I'm sure others could provide such a service.

If Mt. Gox never handles BTC again, someone else will. At least for a while until the BTC fad dies.

I am curious to if this has anything to do with the US Gov't saying they were going to cash out all of Ulbricht's seized BTC for real currency. That would be a quick way to cripple an exchange.

It's the same concern, which has historically to real-world banks. Banks rarely, if ever, hold enough currency to convert funds in accounts to currency. HSBC is the latest in this, refusing large cash withdrawals. When the US currency backed by gold or silver. In theory the metals were available somewhere, but not at the banks.

It brings back the question, what is currency anyways. Why does my piece of paper, or number in an electronic transfer really correspond to a loaf of bread?

I got lucky with Second Life, way back when it was an interesting little site. I "bought" "land" in-game, and sat on it for a while. A while later, I "sold" the "land" for significantly more. Well, a large percentage. Not a lot of money. Why was that currency exchangeable for US dollars, or even the "land" worth anything, since it was never a physical property?

For whatever reason, these traits skew male; not entirely, but heavily. You can debate about whether this is cultural, environmental, genetic, or some combination.

In more egalitarian societies the gender differences of said trait increase.
This is cross cultural, trans-environmental, so that's not it. It's probably got to do with the fact that men and women are different (as anyone with eyeballs or sex organs can tell), and the same things that can lead to vastly different body parts cause our brains to be wired differently.

No need to argue. We've got science, bitches.

"None of this takes control of your car in any way. It would just be used to provide information to built in indicators in the cars. Perhaps a HUD that would show the locations of other cars with relation to yours, especially in your blind spot."

Are you sure about that?

Its this sort of bullshit that has US citizens giving up there passports, and becoming a naturalised citizen of the country they now call home.

The BBC had an article on it a month or two ago.

£1250/month for doing engineering if you're a woman:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scie...

Note to men: It's illegal to discriminate based on actual OR PERCEIVED gender or transgender grounds in the UK. So apply to Brunel, apply for the grant, tell them you're transgendered and whether you are or not they have to treat you as though you are, and therefore qualified for the grant.

If they deny you based on gender sue the sexist cunts.

just walk over the inductive pads for buses and have your hand burned off at the wrist

Then there's China, its inflation rate skyrocketed into hyperinflation several times during the recent 30 years, yet they've had double-digit growth for about as long as that.

China's rapid economic growth began in 1978 when they began to unscrew the economy by introducing market reforms.

China's economic miracle

The seeds of China's rapid economic growth since the 1990s were first planted back in 1978 when the Communist Party started to introduce capitalist market principles, initially in the agricultural sector.

The traffic lights in London can be controlled centrally for 24/7. If there is a problem somewhere they can change timings on lights etc. watch this if you can get access to it from where you are.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/britainfr... or read this http://www.london.gov.uk/prior...

One of the -false- accusations against wikileaks was their undiscriminate leaking of classified documents.

False?

http://download.cabledrum.net/...

Interviewer: "So come on, redactions are going on at the same time, now there is
or isn't a row going on about redaction, I haven't the faintest clue
whether there is or isn't...?

Mr Assange: No, there's no row going on about redactions at all....There was a
group of reports where although they were not really intelligence
informants there were sort of hotline tips...something called threat
reports comprised one in five of the Afghan War Logs and so we held
them back for a line by line redaction...But what we didn't do was
redact one in five lines, putting black marker through it, we just
removed them, and so it looked like we hadn't redacted everything but
in fact we had redacted a fifth of all material, and this permitted an
attack, a political attack, to come from The Times of London.... So The
Times did a proxy war on The Guardian through us by attacking us....
So most of those names were meant to be there, it is right for
them to be published, it is right to publish the names of
politicians, generals bureaucrats, etc, who are involved in this
sort of activity, it is right even to publish the names of corrupt radio
stations in Kabul that were taking SYOPS programme content. It is
also right to publish the names of those people who have been
killed and murdered and who need to be investigated and it is
right to publish the names of all incidental characters who
themselves are not at serious and probable risk of physical harm.
Those incidental characters are someone who owns a company for
example is just involved in shipping operations.... So then there is the
question were there any sort of villagers or so on who gave
information that might lead to reprisals, were there some of those?
Um there were some villagers who - who had given information,
um so that is a regrettable oversight, but it is not our, not merely
our oversight it was the oversight of the United States military
who should've never included that material and who falsely
classified it, and who then made it available to everyone and it
then got out."

Assange never wanted to redact but was forced his media partners. Then he published the full unredacted cables on wikileaks' website. Which they denounced

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...

In a joint statement, the Guardian, El Pais, New York Times and Der Spiegel said they "deplore the decision of WikiLeaks to publish the unredacted state department cables, which may put sources at risk".

And before you mention the password that appeared in David Leigh's book that was supposed to be for a temporary copy of the archive

http://www.theguardian.com/med...

WikiLeaks claimed its disclosure was prompted after conflicts between Assange and former WikiLeaks associates led to one highlighting an error made months before. When passing the documents to the Guardian, Assange created a temporary web server and placed an encrypted file containing the documents on it. The Guardian was led to believe this was a temporary file and the server would be taken offline after a period of hours.

However, former WikiLeaks staff member Daniel Domscheit-Berg, who parted acrimoniously with WikiLeaks, said instead of following standard security precautions and creating a temporary folder, Assange instead re-used WikiLeaks's "master password". This password was then unwittingly placed in the Guardian's book on the embassy cables, which was pu

I don't think the group is in a position to actually come up with any actual technology; just theories. They're starting from a point of "there is no way of doing this," not "there is nothing on the market that we could use", so they are being asked to come up with concepts, and asses their feasibility. I think, based on that, the other stuff I've read about ENLETS and the BBC's version of the story.

Even if the 8 of them did somehow invent a major piece of technology and be able to build it, that wouldn't be that different from any random inventors coming up with it, aside from the fact that they are being funded partly by the EU budget. And I don't see a problem with people seeing if this is possible, or could work. The decision as to whether it should be used or mandated is for the elected politicians and so on, not the technical experts.

Most of that stems from the Telegraph article, though. And I'm not sure it is a good idea to trust the Telegraph on anything relating to the EU. The BBC's version of the story has a few more facts and sources, and a bit less outrage.

What the hell is the DM?

I posted a google search, that will find all sorts of hits.

Is the BBC ok for you? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...

Or do you have to hear this from God himself?

BBC also: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...

The BBC story also includes a link to the actual EU document (pdf) stating the work program.