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The difference is Germany lost a war and the victor's version of history was forced down the throats of the next generation. Turkey won its war of inependence and threw the Italian,French and Greek invaders out so Turkey could teach its children its version of history. History is written by the winners. e.g. Churchill starved 14 million Bengalis to death during WW2, Hitler starved 6 million Jews to death. Can you guess who won the war from how much is written about the Holocaust and how much is written about the Bengal Famine?

Not a proud moment: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/the...

My quick look indicates the famine lead to the death of 3 million. That might not play as well into the "Churchill was as bad at Hitler", but you wouldn't want to be acused of making the whole thing up.

when they give a 'phone number for the mark to call ??? With all the resources that the NSA, GCHQ, FBI, ... have finding where that number goes to is going to be well within their abilities. That they are not finding and nailing these crooks demonstrates that they are not interested in protecting the public. It is not as if the cost to the public is small, the BBC claims £10.9bn a year (just in the UK). So: one has to ask what are those clowns doing with all they money that they soak up ? Who's interests are they protecting? It does not seem to be you or me!

maybe they should be used in Afghanistan. Cheaper than dropping that MOAB! :-)

Pink Floyd would never make it today...the millennials would tune out after 2 minutes of guitar solos

Literally today Pink Floyd is a crustecian that can kill its pray using loud noises: New shrimp species named after Pink Floyd

My cousin just texted me from the airfield. He went to check on his mates. It's total devastation.

Cousin says "all jets gone. Airfield taken out of service. Can't find any of his mates yet."

Seems fairly likely to be legit, but I dare say we'll get some updated satellite pics shortly. Given only seven fatalities are being claimed by the regime, I'm guessing craters on all the hard stands, hangars, runways, taxiways, fuel silos and other storage facilities, but barracks etc. left standing. Seems pretty targetted and reasonable to me if so.

Having internet access is a privilege and not a right.

UN thinks internet access is a human right

"A poll of 27,973 adults in 26 countries, including 14,306 Internet users,[3] conducted for the BBC World Service between 30 November 2009 and 7 February 2010 found that almost four in five Internet users and non-users around the world felt that access to the Internet was a fundamental right.[4] 50% strongly agreed, 29% somewhat agreed, 9% somewhat disagreed, 6% strongly disagreed, and 6% gave no opinion.[5]"

Explain this:

Cat Ownership rise driven by men

Yeah, I'm in the UK, voted remain It was mostly the very old who voted for Brexit, see this graph: http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news... from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-p...

Actually the percentage of all old people that voted remain is HIGHER than the percentage of all young people that voted remain.

Yeah, I'm in the UK, voted remain

It was mostly the very old who voted for Brexit, see this graph:

http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news...

from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-p...

"Professor Hand added that CRU had been "a little naïve" in not working more closely with statisticians."

Because climate change in the Arctic region is occurring faster and to a greater extent than anywhere else, the Arctic Ocean may be ice-free for a short period of time as early as the summer of 2015, according to the 2009 Arctic Marine Shipping Assessment Report completed by the eight Arctic Council Nations.

Scientific Director of ArcticNet, Louis Fortier, in 2007 predicted an ice free Arctic by 2010 or 2015: https://www.pressreader.com/ca...

Because climate change in the Arctic region is occurring faster and to a greater extent than anywhere else, the Arctic Ocean may be ice-free for a short period of time as early as the summer of 2015, according to the 2009 Arctic Marine Shipping Assessment Report completed by the eight Arctic Council Nations.

Scientific Director of ArcticNet, Louis Fortier, in 2007 predicted an ice free Arctic by 2010 or 2015: https://www.pressreader.com/ca...

Was just watching this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programme...

There's a woman who has such an atrocious sense of direction she can get lost in her own house. Apparently she's playing video games & it's helping to rewire her noggin.

I could well foresee that we'll soon see the same happening to anything that a loud and vocal group considers "bad speech".

It's market forces at play here (companies don't want to be associated with hate-filled YouTube rants), not government intervention. I'm not too worried.

Well, the British government did get involved, but only in the same capacity as the affected companies: as a paying advertiser.

Gone are the days of:

sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me

The Illiberal Left's War on Speech continues and we've almost lost it... Major positions have been surrendered without or with little fight:

• "Safe spaces" on campuses have been weaponized and are used to suppress opinions, that make others "uncomfortable";
• The nonsense of "gender-neutral pronouns" and "transgenderism" in general came out of nowhere — a pregnant woman coming to a hospital to give birth claims to be a man, and is offended, when referred to as "mommy" by the nurses.
• Though one can not (yet!) be arrested for making others "uncomfortable" with one's opinion, one may already be fired for same.
• "Hate speech" is already illegal in many Western countries — with movement afoot to bring the same oppression into the US.
• Though the Bill of Rights is still, supposedly, the law of the land, its treatment has changed:

  “This isn’t really the ’60s anymore [...] people can’t really protest like that anymore.”

• The "right to be forgotten", having never existed before, is suddenly "a thing". Can't wait to discuss the court-ordered memory-erasures on SlashDot...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04wyzk9/

Seems some guy in US without any real qualifications is offering stem cell treatments for eye problems.

But they sure as hell have tried

Damn son, you really still think America is all that?

I'm not sure what failure of reading comprehension would make someone believe I'm suggesting "america is all that."

However, let me throw some names out there. First of all, by population: China. India. Our neighbor: Mexico. Then, just some of the worst: Venezuela, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Egypt, Zimbabwe, Cameroon, Ethiopia, Pakistan, Uganda, Bolivia, Bangladesh, Honduras, Nicaragua, Kenya, Turkey, Myanmar, Guatemala, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Uzbekistan, Ecuador, Madagascar, Lebanon, Iran, Tanzania, Belize, Zambia. Albania. Brazil. Colombia. Peru. Vietnam. Senegal. Argentina. Malawi.

All of these have justice systems worse than one where cops policing for profit is a matter of routine. Hell, even Japan will just interrogate you until you confess (99% of arrests in Japan lead to confessions). The world is just that damn sad.

Where the information is plain wrong it is reasonable to expect it to be removed. However in many cases the complainants demanding to be forgotten are simply crooks and criminals trying to cover up past transgressions.

A list of BBC stories currently blacklisted by Google.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/int...

Yeah, but the original ruling just ruled that Google is not except from the law of land just because they are on the internet. Since it is not a new law, it doesn't try to balance anything, and it specifically does not address wrong info. It just means that existing laws that prohibit indexing certain things after a certain amount of time (old crimes or bankcruptcies), also applies to Google. Since it is all about indexing and mostly about giving people who have done something bad a second chance, it is almost exclusively used by people who have done something bad long ago.

Where the information is plain wrong it is reasonable to expect it to be removed. However in many cases the complainants demanding to be forgotten are simply crooks and criminals trying to cover up past transgressions.

A list of BBC stories currently blacklisted by Google.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/int...

Untrue

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/educ... disagrees with you, and that's the fucking androphobic BBC. Note the sentence midway down regarding the report, stating "It also highlights how girls outperform boys at every level of education." although obviously the BBC wouldn't write an article on that fucking subject.

But even if it was true, what conclusion would you draw and what corrective action would you take?

Well, I'd stop structuring education in a way that favours girls, I'd sack teachers that give girls better scores than boys for the same work, I'd give boys better role models in the classroom, I'd treat bad behaviour as a 'children growing up' thing and not a crime and I'd stop funding all these fucking gynocentric initiatives that have resulted in such a gender disparity in university admission rates.

What would you do, besides spout total bullshit about

Toxic ideas about masculinity

Have you not heard of BBC 6Music?

Any number of their DJs do exactly that.

Just spotted on the BBC: Londoner accidentally gets Uber to Croydon, via Bristol. That's a £467 bill for what should have been a ~30 minute journey (in central London) that took five additional hours and a few hundred extra miles because the Uber driver didn't speak enough English to understand what the problem was when the passenger woke up and realised what was going on. To be fair to Uber, they're going to refund the fare as a goodwill gesture, but apropos to the story non-the-less.

And Brazil. E.g. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/bus...

This is great, technically speaking. However, here's a little article from the BBC on the current space junk problem: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scie... Just look at the statistics at the bottom of the article.

We've managed to fill near-earth with almost as much rubbish as the surface, the actual atmosphere and (more recently reported) the depths of the sea: https://www.theguardian.com/en...

I love tech, but we need urgently to work on its by-products.

You dumb shills are so fun to toy with, where do I even begin:

There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, 1,625 UN and US inspectors spent two years searching 1,700 sites at a cost of more than $1bn. Yesterday they delivered their verdict
Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction
bush admits there were no WMDs in IRAQ
Report concludes no WMD in Iraq

And this is from fucking 2014:
No, There's Still No Evidence There Was an Active WMD Program in Iraq

Saddam was killed because he wanted to sell oil in Euros, which was a direct threat to the petro dollar system.
Just like Gaddafi was killed because he wanted to create a gold backed African currency, which was also a direct threat to the petro dollar system.

If you people are really that stupid and ignorant, then America really deserve to fall.

I'm asking for citations where the predictions were way off.

These are a dime-a-dozen. The Internet is full of such lists assembled. But they don't necessarily disprove anything — it is normal for a scientific discipline to fail sometimes. This article even analyzes different ways of detecting and dealing with such failures.

Trouble is, successful ones are so hard to find...

With the pace of global warming increasing, some climate change experts predict that the Scottish ski industry will cease to exist within 20 years.

It is now 2017, but snow is still plentiful in Scotland. Indeed, the 2014 was the snowiest since 1945. Do you think, the 2004 prediction will come true by 2024?

“you can argue that may be our projection of [an ice-free Arctic by 2013] is already too conservative.”

Whether or not Arctic sea ice is at "record low" or not, the Arctic Ocean is decidedly not "ice-free" today.

Yet you've provided zero. Odd.

I made no claims requiring citations. I merely pointed out, that folks claiming "science is settled" typically disappear, when asked for successful prediction of their favorite science.

Nope. If you actually believe in science, I have to provide you with successful ones that survived peer review and replication

That may be too onerous a requirement in the case of Climate Science — the experiments take many years, so any replication is difficult.

No. I use RSS feeds into live bookmarks straight to my browser's bookmark toolbar. I have done this for years, it's a wonderful technology you can use with virtually all news sites, and you can then easily pick and choose the articles you want from updated drop down folders on your toolbar.

• BBC World News: http://news.bbc.co.uk/rss/news...
• CBC World News: http://rss.cbc.ca/lineup/world...
• CBC Canadian News: http://rss.cbc.ca/lineup/canad...
• Globe & Mail World News: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Th...
• CNN World News: http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_wor...
• CNN US News: http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_us....

For Mozilla or (better yet) PaleMoon browsers you just click on the link above, then on the resultant page click Subscribe Now into Live Bookmarks. I suspect Chrome is similar. This will buy you automatically updated headlines from multiple respected news outlets with different viewpoints in dropdown menus. Why anyone would use Facebook for news is beyond me. If you ask me, anyone who does go to Facebook for news deserves what they get. Facebook is a sewer of trolls initiating social malware for the kick it gives them to see their garbage repeated. Go to news sources for news. Go to facebook to try and make yourself feel better about how well liked you are.

I moved to NZ from Scotland 3 years ago, I live on a little 10 acre "lifestyle block" on the north island.
Coming from N.Europe it's weird seeing things like hedgehogs running around here.
Brought here by the europeans who wanted to terra form NZ into something almost recognisable as the place the left behind.
They brought just about everything from the British Isles, except the fox (thankfully).

I recently came across a nest of hedgehogs in my barn and I did some online research as I think I might have made the mother abandon the nest by discovering it.
Found Hedgehogrescue NZ

Now coming from Scotland I know that there was an attempt to eradicate them from the Hebrides as they were eating the native bird eggs.
So why would Kiwi's (NZ-ers) want to save Hedgehogs if the goal is to make NZ more like it was where the Kiwi bird can roam free and re-establish on the mainlands?

I'll go further, what about the domestic cat? If you get rid of the all the mice (& rats) what does the (large) population of wild domestic cats live off?
Wild pigs too? I could go on...

I'm all for the eradication of the NZ mosquitos. :)

Sorry, I meant to say white births are now a minority in the US.

Fact - people are lazy animals, and if you put obstacles in front of them, the vast majority of them look for the path of least resistance, even if it yields an inferior result. Blocks like this one aren't designed to block everyone, just make it painful enough that a large number won't hassle with a workaround, and because of human nature, it normally works.

Except that when you got no money for 30$ BD films and 200$ BD TV series, or you need it for booze and/or feeding your kid, the path of least resistance is still very much taking a few minutes to talk to your friends or post on some random forum, and get a walkthrough to follow blindly.

TPB is blocked in Italy (and has been for 7 years), the UK and Finland (for 5 years), Ireland (for 4 years), India (for 3 years), France, Spain and Russia (for 2 years), Australia (for 2 months)...

'Problem' solved, outside the US, then? Well, no.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18833060 :

"A major UK internet service provider (ISP) said peer-to-peer (P2P) activity on its network returned to just below normal only a week after the measures were enforced earlier this year".

People applied the various workarounds, or simply went to one of the many other search engines or trackers available... Private trackers have been particularly popular...

Sure some people did quit. But more people probably joined from the free 'advertising', and many people went to even higher-quality websites, with an even stronger community, meaning they are now even farther from paying the content industry more.

They cannot be ignoring it now... Remember Napster? it's been 16 years now... remember SuprNova? it's been 12 years now... and Megaupload, RapidShare and others? 5 years ago... isoHunt? 3 years... and a multitude of other closed or abandoned services... ever been on eDonkey/eMule or KaZaA (Lite) lately?

Thus the noise is actually mostly addressed to the producers they represent ("the situation is terrible, but we're doing stuff, please keep our pockets filled!"... you know, like Wall Street's "who cares about stocks crashing, investors will still fill our pockets with fees!"), and governments ("the situation is terrible, please create more taxes and send the easy cash our way so we can save creation!")... while actually, the content industry is having profit record years after profit record years... There had never really been a problem to begin with... Did they have to adapt to maintain and increase their profit? Well, yeah, but look how slow they've been, and how much there is still to be done to get to what most people really need...

If you want to dig deeper, though, it's not even about money (of course they have enough)... it's about maintaining a certain overall status quo in the mind of the general population, for the purpose of maintaining some level of control. People feel like they're "transgressing a little", it gives them some illusion of freedom and power. Just enough so apathy remains in fact firmly set. Is it good? does it prevent worse? Or is it bad? are we only exploited and prevented from happiness forever? are we in Hell? Well, to be sure, things could be much, much better. So if they were benevolent, they're not very good at it, considering their power... Still, do not attribute, etc.

CAPTCHA: "prologue"... ominous...

The @POTUS account retweeted his Nordstrom tweet, so yes. Plus Kellanne Conway was busy telling people to "Go buy Ivanka's stuff."

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/0...

http://heavy.com/news/2017/02/...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/worl...

I'd argue that RT is about as bad as the others but generally uses higher register language than the far right press. A big mistake may be to read all believing the truth lies somewhere in the aggregate, when frequently they are all just not true.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/maga...
And yes, I am aware of the irony of citing a news source.

Here

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

I don't recognise the website, but I leave you to investigate

http://www.stopfake.org/en/rus...

Not RT accused directly but

http://www.businessinsider.com...

A reminder about the lies at the time of the invasion of the Crimea

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/maga...

And finally

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10...

Once a week BBC4 panel discussion with multiple academics on ludicrously wide-ranging topics, aimed at a literate lay audience. One week you're learning about gravity, the next week the Han Dynasty, and the next week a classic 17th century painting. Smart and fast.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programme...

I very much enjoy the podcast genre even though it is a rather broad spectrum. Here are my faves:-

• The Adam Buxton Podcast
• Penn's Sunday School
• The Infinite Monkey Cage
• The Skeptics Guide to the Universe
• StarTalk Radio

You are right that we have a long history of people crying wolf. As part of a course on the policy and ethical implications of AI, I am teaching the history of Luddite reactions from the printing press to the more recent robotic "revolution". Even recently with ATMs, there was a prediction of fewer branches and tellers which did not happen. So we're good right? Well...

Unfortunately, there is one thing that should stand out as being potentially different this time -- in previous instances of the Chicken Little scenarios, it was those who were worried about being displaced that were sounding the alarm, not those creating the technology. This time, it's the other way around. The vast majority of AI researchers, particularly in the private sector, are bullish on the elimination of most blue-collar and service jobs (even management and hedge fund investors are not safe) in the not too distant future. And if you have doubts, we have ample room to believe that the changes are not 50 years away:

• Manufacturing jobs are finally returning to North America...for robots
• Chinese factory replaces 90% of human workers with robots. Production rises by 250%, defects drop by 80%
• BBC News: Foxconn replaces '60,000 factory workers with robots'
• Attention all humans of Shanghai! Robo chefs will now whip you up a bowl of ramen in 90 seconds flat
• Japanese white-collar workers are already being replaced by artificial intelligence
• Mining 24 Hours a Day with Robots
• China Has Launched the Robocops You Have Been Waiting For
• Robots are already replacing fast-food workers Trump’s pick for labor chief, the CEO of Hardee's and Carl’s Jr., likes the idea.
• Inside Silicon Valley’s Robot Pizzeria
• Fmr. McDonald's USA CEO: $35K Robots Cheaper Than Hiring at $15 Per Hour
• Fast-food CEO says he's investing in machines because the government is making it difficult to afford employees

And other things to think about....

• Dallas Police Used Robot With Bomb to Kill Ambush Suspect
• Microsoft Foresees AR Tracking Your Keys, Milk, Entire Life
• White House: US Needs a Stronger Social Safety Net To Help Workers Displaced by Robots
• McKinsey's 2016 Analy

The sad part about this is Reddit has admitted to changing posts to harass these guys before. It is just as likely that Reddit changed posts to look like these groups were doxxing and encouraging it just to take down them down over different ideology.

I remember some US scientists said there would be no ice in the Arctic by 2013

Yes, they said "there would be no ice", in strong terms like

could be
It might not be as early as 2013
My thinking on this is that 2030 is not an unreasonable date to be thinking of.
I think Wieslaw is probably a little aggressive in his projections

Yup, they said it, definitely 2013.

Those who follow stories like this one might be interested in news about a new experiment to determine the existence or otherwise of dark matter.

I can't submit it myself because my account is broken so I can't submit, comment, reply, moderate (but still get given mod points) or even logout once logged in.

I always find this funny that so many studies say "The Arctic is warming and there should be no more ice cap by 2050". I remember some US scientists said there would be no ice in the Arctic by 2013

Of course, the article says nothing of the kind:

Their latest modelling studies indicate northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers

I remember some US scientists said there would be no ice in the Arctic by 2013,

Sure, some scientists said that, the TV/media decided it was a good story, and that's the part that you heard.

All climate scientists are therefore dumbasses, right?

PS: The press was probably paid to make a big deal over that story. The climate change denial you're hearing is a well funded organization. Not a conspiracy either, one with actual names, published details of bank transfers, etc.

https://encrypted.google.com/s...

I always find this funny that so many studies say "The Arctic is warming and there should be no more ice cap by 2050". I remember some US scientists said there would be no ice in the Arctic by 2013, and look at this graph. The arctic ice cap is currently a little over 13 million square km.

Yes, it may be shrinking a little, but the sampling period is extremely short, compared to our planet's age. This can or cannot be caused by humans. But hey, anyway humans won't survive Earth, which is scheduled to disappear anyway in the next 5 billion years... Unless we disseminate elsewhere in our universe, we're doomed.

How can you link to a text that says "could be ice-free in summers" and claim it says "there would be no ice (full stop). The ice cap is not "shrinking a little", it's shrinking massively. "Currently" it's the middle of winter, when the sea ice is always expanding to nearly the same level (basically, it covers the arctic until it runs out of ocean). In the arctic ocean, the summer minimum is the most important measurement. That said, the arctic ice has been at or near record low for the entire winter, and for good measure in this year antarctic sea ice also is unusually low. The newly formed first-year ice is so thin that it melts very quickly in the summer, probably giving us another record low, and leading to more heating, as the sunlight is absorbed by the water, not reflected by the ice.

You have a point about the 5 billion years, but most of us have a somewhat shorter perspective - and even those with the long perspective may want to give us enough time to escape this doomed planet before things get really ugly.

I always find this funny that so many studies say "The Arctic is warming and there should be no more ice cap by 2050". I remember some US scientists said there would be no ice in the Arctic by 2013, and look at this graph. The arctic ice cap is currently a little over 13 million square km.

Yes, it may be shrinking a little, but the sampling period is extremely short, compared to our planet's age. This can or cannot be caused by humans. But hey, anyway humans won't survive Earth, which is scheduled to disappear anyway in the next 5 billion years... Unless we disseminate elsewhere in our universe, we're doomed.

According to the BBC the iPhone 7 is only making up about 17% of iPhone sales. In other words 83% of people want one with a headphone jack.

What we need are US like-for-like sales numbers, showing US only sales compared to the iPhone 6S at the same time last year. For some reason those don't seem to have been released.

OK, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are genuinely ignorant and not just trying to be a troll. You do know that the US is a net exporter of oil right... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

The war in Afghanistan was because a few monsters over there murdered 3000 US civilians, and the ruling body in Afghanistan sided with those monsters, so we killed them. You remember that right? There is/was no oil in Afghanistan...

The war in Iraq happened because Saddam Hussein had a huge stockpile of chemical weapons (previously well documented in the 80s and previously used on the Kurds in 1988 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared... ) and had Uranium (550 tons http://www.nbcnews.com/id/2554...), was trying to buy more and refine it (we found the centrifuges buried in a civilian district of Baghdad http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/... ) and he kicked the IAEA/weapons inspectors out of Iraq. He thought we would blink because we were already involved in Afghanistan, but we didn't and that was what triggered the Iraq war.

We didn't take over any Iraq oil fields and we don't import it. We spent $2,000B on the Iraq war http://www.reuters.com/article... while the Iraq oil production is worth a piddling $25B/year. http://www.theglobalist.com/ir... If you think the Iraq war was about oil or for profit, you are either ignorant or a moron or both.

We need the US war machine so that the Russians and/or the Chinese (or Iran for that mater), don't try to subjugate the rest of the world. I suspect under Trump, a lot of other modern countries who have been getting a free ride as far as protection via the US military will start shouldering their fair share of expenses, so we may well have more cash, but that will probably go to actually building things like power plants, transmission lines, roads and airports, rather than more "green jobs." We already tried that under BHO and we got Solyndra. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Are you this guy???

We are taking the word of B'Tselem, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, The New York Times, BBC, Washington Post, Haaretz, and the Goldstone Report, all of whom sent investigators to the scene to interview witnesses and examine the scene for physical evidence.

For example, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/pro...

We're taking their word agains the word of the Israeli government, which hasn't responded to the charges except to say that Palestinians generically are lying.

The BBC said, "We have put the family's allegations to the Israelis. So far they have told us that they can not comment on specific cases."

Actually guys, this is not only possible - it's old news.

And, no, it doesn't necessarily need stupendously perfect conditions:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/tech...

Funnily enough, they have been busted for price fixing Monopoly. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/bus...