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Britannica already provides an online edition, the free version of which includes only a subset of their content. The pay version ($70/year) apparently includes everything from the print encyclopedia as well as some other materials. There is a print version of the German Wikipedia, and there have been various (failed, AFAIK) efforts to create a print version of the English Wikipedia.

If you haven't seen biographies in Encyclopedia Britannica, then you haven't been reading Encyclopedia Britannica.

Your suggestion is not a very good one. How would you describe a US Civil War battle without bringing any of the commanders into it? How could you have a discussion about anything in history without getting into the personalities behind the event. Even the light bulb article would be vapid without mentioning the inventors.

Hardly a rhetorical question. The FBI is simply a poster child for bureaucracy, politics, and obsessive secrecy run amuck. It's not so much that it's full of idiots as that it's structured so that idiots are guaranteed to be the key decision makers. It assumed its current form during the Teapot Dome Scandal when the Justice Department Bureau of Investigation was essentially decapitated because its top officials were implicated. New leadership was brought in under J. Edgar Hoover, who remained in charge for 48 years, until he died in 1972. Like many closeted homosexuals, Hoover was obsessed with secrecy, and with other peoples secrets. Avoiding any real supervision or oversight by his superiors in the executive branch or by congress, he avoided dealing with some of the issues you'd expect federal cops to be interested in, such as organized crime, and developed a nasty obsession with eliminating political factions he considered "un-American".

There are actually people in the FBI worth of respect. But they're fighting a losing battle against the organizational culture that Hoover created.

On a personal note, I'm very concerned that the FBI has taken note of my repeated purchase of halvah, a middle-eastern candy. I can only hope that they've also noticed that I've purchased matzo ball soup!

The word Holocaust means the genocide of the Jews during WWII:

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9040821/Holocaust

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Well, just for starters, John Gordon Melton does http://www.britannica.com/eb/author?id=4507 - in the Encyclopedia Britannica http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9066295/Scientology.

Well, just for starters, John Gordon Melton does http://www.britannica.com/eb/author?id=4507 - in the Encyclopedia Britannica http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9066295/Scientology.

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"Wrong. As you can read from the article, it was América."

Read it again, you'll notice you're wrong about this. There were just as many references to "the Americas" as to "America".

And relying on 300 year old geography illustrates just how wrong you are.

  "one of the larger continuous masses of land, namely, Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia, listed in order of size. (Europe and Asia are sometimes considered a single continent, Eurasia.)"

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9026050/continent

That's from encyclopedia Britannica, and it still shows you're wrong. Better?

http://www.britannica.com/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=america&query=america

Main Entry: America
Pronunciation: &-'mer-&-k&
Usage: geographical name
1 either continent (N. America or S. America) of the western hemisphere
2 or the Americas /-k&z/ the lands of the western hemisphere including N., Central, & S. America & the W. Indies
3 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

As to YOUR Wiki link, it's wrong. Fix it before you reference it again so you don't look moronic.

"First of all, if you are right, there's no need to shout"

FUCK YOU. I'LL SHOUT WHENEVER THE FUCK I PLEASE, ESPECIALLY IN REGARD TO SOMEONE WHO CONTINUES REPEATING THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN FALSE.

"Wrong. As you can read from the article, it was América."

Read it again, you'll notice you're wrong about this. There were just as many references to "the Americas" as to "America".

And relying on 300 year old geography illustrates just how wrong you are.

  "one of the larger continuous masses of land, namely, Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia, listed in order of size. (Europe and Asia are sometimes considered a single continent, Eurasia.)"

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9026050/continent

That's from encyclopedia Britannica, and it still shows you're wrong. Better?

http://www.britannica.com/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=america&query=america

Main Entry: America
Pronunciation: &-'mer-&-k&
Usage: geographical name
1 either continent (N. America or S. America) of the western hemisphere
2 or the Americas /-k&z/ the lands of the western hemisphere including N., Central, & S. America & the W. Indies
3 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

As to YOUR Wiki link, it's wrong. Fix it before you reference it again so you don't look moronic.

"First of all, if you are right, there's no need to shout"

FUCK YOU. I'LL SHOUT WHENEVER THE FUCK I PLEASE, ESPECIALLY IN REGARD TO SOMEONE WHO CONTINUES REPEATING THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN FALSE.

The Pakistanis have the habit of painting Hindus/Indians with the same BS they are. This sense of insecurity has made the world see 9/11, 7/11, 7/7 etc. etc and other terror activites these people spread. Which other nation has 2% Christians, 2% Sikhs and 14% Muslims become Super PM/(PM/Army Chief)/President respectively at the same time when the rest of 80% is not represented in either of top 4 posts in the country.
Regarding Algebra being discovered outside of India, refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_M%C5%ABs%C4%81_al-Khw%C4%81rizm%C4%AB. The "inventor"'s book "On the Calculation with Hindu Numerals " played a major role and influenced discovery algebra again in the modern world. But Indians have been using it for a long time http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-231064. Lot of other inventions like Chess etc. are attributed to middle-eastern discovery because of India's 1000 years of plunder. It's sad to know that now Pakistanis can even think about raising fingers at others when all they do is "invent"/"design"/"research" new world events.

To those who are wondering, "what happened to the FDIC?": The FDIC supervises regular banks. NetBank was a "thrift" a weird institution that appeared when the Reagan administration deregulated banking, allowing depositor-owned savings and loan associations to convert to a sort of commercial bank that specializes in mortgages. Thrifts have a long history of getting in over their heads, and creating real estate "booms" that price most people out of the home market. But a lot of folks got rich off them, so I guess that's OK.

{{fact}}: give us an example of a poor article on a mainstream topic in religion?

Also of course, there is more to human knowledge than "pop culture" and "politics and religion", the latter being an area that involves disputes, and makes it hard to find any decent non-biased reference.

Not a religion, but still under the broader topic to give an example I am familiar with - I find Wikipedia's atheism article to be a better definition and description than Britannica's. Britannica:
* Talks about atheism as if it is mutually exclusive to agnosticism.
* Falsely claims that atheism rejects all religion (it doesn't - some religions don't require belief in a god, and atheism is only about rejecting belief in a god).
* Whilst it has some good parts, it on the whole reads like a personal essay with the author's personal opinions, rather than covering objectively what people think from referenced sources.
* Provides some further reading, but doesn't have sources inlined in the text.

Yes, things like politics and religion are sources of bias, but other encyclopedias are not immune to this, and with them, there is no chance for anyone to correct or even challenge the mistakes.

Now, I'm not saying that the passage has been open in the past, but unless there was permanent observation of the passage, we certainly cannot say it has never been open. You listed many dates, but where there people their EVERY year to see if the passage was open? We are in the situation today, that we can know exactly (probably down to the hour) that the passage became clear. If the passage was also clear in 1540 through 1545, we wouldn't know it.

Obviously, this is something to watch, but by making clearly untrue statements, fuel is given to those that are skeptical.

Also, A quick google shows that Roald Amundsen sailed it in 1905? Or am I misunderstanding the story?

And that the Vikings were sailing it sometime between 1200 and 1500 A.D.

From microsofts own webiste.
List of know applications that service pack 2 broke
Untest updates are always bad for business.

OL Toolbar 1.13.2 AOL 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.aol.com/ The Information Bar blocks access to the tool's edit boxes.
PhotoShop CS 8.0 Adobe 64-bit (NX) http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/main.html Program installs, but will not start.
BlackICE 3.6 crj Internet Security Systems 64-bit (NX) http://www.iss.net/ When you use this program, you may receive a Stop error that causes the program to quit.
BootSkin All Stardock 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.stardock.com/ When you restart your computer during the Windows XP SP2 Setup program, a Stop error occurs. For more information, see the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5Bln%5D;873159.
Command Antivirus 4.9 Authentium 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.authentium.com/ This program does not start.
Encyclopedia Britannica 2000 Deluxe 1 Encyclopedia Britannica 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.britannica.com/ Java rendering does not function after you install this program.
eTrust EZ Armor 1 Computer Associates 64-bit (NX) http://www.ca.com/ The EZ Firewall part of this program generates a Stop error during installation.
Freedom Force 1 Electronic Arts 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.ea.com/ When you start the program, a message appears that points you to the following EA Web site: http://techsupport.ea.com./
Kaspersky Anti-Virus (German) 4.5 and 5.0 Kaspersky Labs 64-bit (NX) http://www.kaspersky.com/ Real-Time scanning does not work in version 4.5 or 5.0. The vendor's Web site has available product updates that are designed to address this issue.
Live Motion 1 Adobe 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.adobe.com/ This program displays various errors that prevent typical operation.
MapSend DirectRoute 1.0 Magellan 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.magellangps.com/ When you start the program, a message appears that points you to the following Web site: http://www.magellangps.com/en/support.
MPEGcraft DVD All Canopus 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) When you try to save an MPEG file, you receive a "Failed to Edit" error, and the file cannot be saved.
NBA LIVE 2000 1 Electronic Arts 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.ea.com/ This program does not start in certain systems.
NOD32 for Microsoft Windows 2.000.11 Eset 64-bit (NX) http://www.eset.com/ When this program is started on an AMD64-based computer, all network connectivity is lost. To resolve this issue, upgrade to NOD32 version 2.12.2 or higher.
Norman Personal Firewall 1.4 Norman 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.norman.com/ Norman Personal Firewall Assistant will not start.
Norman Personal Firewall 1.4 Norman 64-bit (NX) After this program installs and restarts, the desktop does not load correctly
Norton AntiVirus 2003 Symantec 32-bit and 64-bit (NX) http://www.symantec.com/ At system startup, Scheduled Tasks in Norton AntiVir

The only source for this is MSNBC (I've been unable to find another reference to this event that doesn't link them) and they've made no attempt to report this objectively. Obviously done by somebody on the "news of the weird" beat.

I find it unlikely that the Chinese government (for whom dialectical materialism is still official dogma) really believes in reincarnation, never mind their own ability to regulate it. What's probably happened is that the government has claimed the right to appoint the hierarchy of Tibetan Buddhism, something they've already done for other sects. Since each important Tibetan Buddhist leader is considered the reincarnation of his predecessor, they are, in effect, asserting control over the Buddhist hierarchy's right to reincarnate.

What this means is that when the current Dalai Lama dies, Tibetans outside of China will "discover" his successor outside China, and Tibetans inside will "discover" his successor inside China. So you'll have two Dalai Lamas, one approved by the Chinese government, one not. If you look at it seriously and stop looking to make a joke out of it, it's a case of a government that pretends to honor freedom of religion, but is actually less than tolerant. Nothing to laugh about.

Anyways, what man-made technology we have to collect solar energy totally sucks when compared with the efficiency of photosynthesis

Umm... what? According to Britannica, photosynthesis is at most 1-3% efficient at receiving and storing solar energy. In fact, theoretical efficiency of photosynthesis is only around 26%.

Meanwhile, according to Wikipedia, the first commercially available solar cells had a conversion efficiency of about 6 percent, and these days, the numbers are much higher (I believe commercially available photovoltaics are in the 17-20% range, though I may be mistaken).

Of course, one might argue about the amount of energy that's put into producing a solar cell. I might rebut that it takes an awful lot of energy to grow, harvest, and convert a crop of soybeans or sugar cane into usable energy (with numerous losses along the way, not the least of which occurs during combustion).

The Britannica article has nothing negative to say about circumcision either:

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9082690/circu mcision

* If Buddhism is the science of the mind then what does it have to do with
physics?
-like physics isn't the science of everything ?

* If Buddhism is the science of the mind then why do psychiatrists and brain
surgeons treat problems with your mind, and not Buddhists?
lol, different classification, that's as bad as asking 'why do psychiatrists
and brain surgeons treat problems with your mind, and not humans?'

* If your brain is an "antenna" to thoughts in space why haven't neurologists,
who have a very good understanding of how the brain works on a low level,
noticed any mechanism for this?
maybe 'the brain' in its entirety is the mechanism!?!

* Why do animals with brains just as large as ours not seem to have thoughts
like ours?
why do you need a different aerial for your tv than you need for your wifi ?

* Where do these thoughts that permeate space come from? well, everything
vibrates (for lack of a better word), all at different frequencies (natural
frequency http://www.britannica.com/eb/topic-406158/natural- frequency ) - it
could be that we are picking that up, elephants might pick up different things,
just like your tv picks up 'different things' from that of your wifi card



* Why do people with brain injuries in certain parts exhibit similar symptoms?
maybe because the injuries are in similar places?
like if i remove the battery from my tv remote, and you do the same both the
remotes will appear 'broken'

* Why do MRI scans associate neuron activity in different parts of the brain to
different things that the brain does?
cos thats what they are looking for...

* Why are different parts of the brain that are used more or less in certain
animals (e.g. optical processing in bats and hawks) proportionally different
sizes?
see tv antennae and wifi antennae above...

* Why does electro-shock therapy work?
cos we are made from water and its a good conductor -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_conducti vity

* Why do drugs have an effect?
chemistry - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Metabolism

* Can you demonstrate the existence of these thoughts that float around through
space?
yes - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_back ground_radiation

EB

Then I remembered that for some time now, some people who think of themselves as "hackers" (in the original sense of the word) have played language nazi every time they've heard the more popular use of the word. "No!" they exclaim. "You mean cracker!"

This ignores two important linguistic principles:

1. Words can have more than one meaning. You're supposed to figure out which one from context.
2. You can't just coin a new word and expect people to use it in place of an existing well-established word. Especially when the coinage is so lame.

It's not rotating. The effect you're seeing is called libration plus the effect of the spacecraft moving away. If you take timelapse photos of the Moon then you can see libration in action

Blah, blah, totally agree. Show me one of these "historically stable" nations that hasn't engaged in war. Agonism is part of the human experience, wired into our psychology, and an unforntunately inevitable part of existence.

So what *is* the justification for extraditing your own citizens to a foreign country they've never been to?

I agree. I, also, am an alum from before her reign.

I hate to be pedantic, but "alum" is an aluminum potassium sulfate (or a group of several similar aluminum based compounds).

Alumnus is the singular form for a male graduate or attendee. "I am an alumnus of XYZ University."

Alumna is the female singular form. "She is an alumna of XYZ university."

Alumni is the male plural, also used as mixed-group plural. "We are having a gathering of alumni during homecoming week."

Alumnae is the female plural, still used when referring to a group of exclusively female graduates or attendees. "There will be a gathering of Bryn Mawr alumnae after the ceremony."

I see the incorrect use of "alum" as a catch-all substitute, even in supposedly prestigious alumni magazines. It causes me to cringe every time. However, it is amusing to think of the "alums of Harvard," a field full of amorphous blobs of a translucent white substance wearing mortar boards.

Does that really matter, or does the whole article really point to one thing, the death of scientific journals and the birth of properly referenced and cited 'wikis' being held and continually worked on at various repositories around the globe, be they at universities, scientific institutions or companies. It is just so much faster and more convenient, and actions like this just accelerate the whole process. The more legally active the scientific journals become the quicker that high quality authoritative wikis will start appearing (wiki as in wiki http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9404276/wiki ;), not wikipedia which is a specific type of wiki)

This is simply false. Egypt had begun blockading Israeli ports (a blockade is widely considered an act of war http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9015678/block ade ) as well as providing considerable material support to paramilitary forces regularly staging attacks into Israel across the Egyptian border, in violation of cease fire agreements. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Histor y/Suez_War.html
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/ mf5.html

I personally LOVE wikipedia, and encylopedias. I love knowledge and science. A lot of people at my school, my friends, and my family say that wikipedia is not a reliable source of information. When they tell me this I say to them: "I will judge on whether the site is reliable or not thank you very much.". Wikipedia is heavily regulated by administrators, logs are kept of every alteration of an article, and repeat vandals are quickly banned. Most vandalism on the site is pretty obvious anyways. I think the school should let the students decide for themselves. But there are other sites out there like http://www.britannica.com/.

It's good to see Shockley getting some press considering that the transistor is one of the most fundamental building blocks of modern technology. To get some perspective, take a look at the first transistor:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/art/print?id=16247&ar ticleTypeId=0

Notice the tranangular shape? This is where we get the symbol for transistors in circuit diagrams.

Also another interesting bit of trivia: the three terminal transistor was discovered *before* the two terminal diode.

You have said you are a pantheist, not defined God. Alright, going from the wikipedia definition then God is simply another name for universe --- how uninteresting. The difference practical difference between that and an atheist must be hair-thin, if there is any: No scripture, no miracles (in the physics-defying sense), no inherit ethics. Terry Pratchett once wrote something like "Everything and nothing; always and never: it's almost the same. " There are wisdom in those words.

How nice, but very common for people unable or unwilling to define what they mean. No, I'm not trolling, but since you choose to use a word to mean something else than most, you need to make that explicit rather than just assume that everyone cares or knows about some obscure worldview. You might think that it is all the other ones that are hijacking the word, or that it has a double meaning, but that doesn't really change anything. This is very similar to the "hacker" problem so commonly discussed here on /.

From a quick skim, the "definition" on wikipedia is just made another name for the universe. Do you remember that I don't care for discussing sematics?

You yourself have not offered a definition, so I have to guess that that is what you mean. If this is wrong, the blame is entirely yours.

You haven't defined your God. If you did, it would be easily refuted; otherwise it is refuted by default. That is always the way.

I've defined God several times now, you are just refusing to acknowledge it. I am a pantheist, one of a huge number of pantheists, my philosophy is extensively documented in many languages, it's in every dictionary and encyclopedia, and although there are minor differences in "flavor" between the various kinds of pantheist we all agree on who God is.

My definition of God has existed for over 2000 years, so you can't honestly say I'm "hijacking a word". You're dodging. Or trolling.

What, precisely, do you not understand about my definition of God? Have you read Wikipedia's entry on Pantheism? Will you accept any of these? If so, which one?

The possibility and speculation that genetics may be involved is something we have, and why ignore that?

I would not say it's not possible that God can intervene as he likes. Does that really subvert Christianity?

And if we were to throw in genetics then we could surmise that that maybe God allowed or made people to have certain genetic codes so that they would become certain ways? People say it all the time - "God made me that way."

http://earth.esa.int/applications/dm/archdm/disman /db/synthesis_reports/SRCanada.html: Look at figure 3.

and http://www.canadainfolink.ca/chartten.htm

or http://www.britannica.com/eb/art-71476

http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/peoplea ndsociety/population/population2001/density2001 gives some general information.

-dave

Wikipedia has information that NO OTHER encyclopedia in the world has.

Try and go to Encyclopedia Britannica and find an article on Radix Trees

You can't.

Oh look, they mention binary trees in passing. How quaint.

Wikipedia has a breadth and a depth that is unsurpassed by any other publically and freely available repository of information.

I would call that one hell of a success.

Wikipedia has information that NO OTHER encyclopedia in the world has.

Try and go to Encyclopedia Britannica and find an article on Radix Trees

You can't.

Oh look, they mention binary trees in passing. How quaint.

Wikipedia has a breadth and a depth that is unsurpassed by any other publically and freely available repository of information.

I would call that one hell of a success.

Look, a Nobel prize was awarded back in the 30's for the discovery that IGGs can recognize even racemic molecules such as L and D forms of glycine even and the olfactory literature is just as rich.

I dunno which Nobel prize you're referring to, because none of the Chemistry or Med/Physiology prizes from the 1930s deal with antibody recognition of anything (listing here).

Recognized the D and L forms of glycine? You are aware that glycine is achiral, right? There is no such thing as D- or L- glycine.

Mods, nice job in giving +5 informative to a troll talking out of his/her arse.

Especially considering that the library people who are supposed to be teaching them are all idiots. We had to do that in my sophomore year in high school, and our librarian taught us such useful things as "Google uses boolean search terms" and "The internet is never reliable".

I was going to point out that Britannica also lacks rules for calling shotgun, but even more shocking is that the results page for the same search on Britannica returns more Google ads than articles.

This is concrete proof that the Enyclopedia Brittanica is superior. They have exactly zero revisions to their Wii page! No vandalism in sight. They really have their priorities straight.

This is concrete proof that the Enyclopedia Brittanica is superior. They have exactly zero revisions to their Wii page! No vandalism in sight. They really have their priorities straight.

This is concrete proof that the Enyclopedia Brittanica is superior. They have exactly zero revisions to their Wii page! No vandalism in sight. They really have their priorities straight.

This is concrete proof that the Enyclopedia Brittanica is superior. They have exactly zero revisions to their Wii page! No vandalism in sight. They really have their priorities straight.

Subsidies mentioned there also mention 'tax concessions' as a form of subsidy. Besides, economically there is minimal difference between me sending you a check for $1000 (tax free) and reducing the taxes you owe me by $1000.

This better? http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9108315/censo rship

Oh wait I think you meant we have a greater relationship with Israel because we view the Israelis as "white people". You might be right about that.

The US is friends with Israel because the Israelis are viewed as "white people", eh? All of them? (Is that just Israelis, or all Jews?) I guess that puts them in the same company as some of the other "white folk" that the US has supported, or fought and died for, like Koreans and South Viet Namese. (~50,000 dead American soldiers in each country) And then there are those other famous "white folk" that we support, the Taiwanese, the Japanese, and the Kuwaitis. And don't forget Iraq, where American soldiers are currently fighting and dying to aid a newly elected democratic government, apparently of "white folk", in stabilizing the country.

On a tangent, I hear that Leftist anti-Semitism is becoming a problem.

• Madame Curie
• Grace Hopper
• (There are a few women of Astronomy from around 1900 who should be interesting, but I don't know names) [How about Margaret Burbidge?]
• Richard Feynman
• Charles Darwin
• Gregor Mendel
• Murray Gell-Mann
• Linus Pauling
• Benjamin Franklin
• Paul Erdos
• [Roald] Hoffman (nobel science and literature)
• [Jacob] Perkins, inventor of the first synthetic dyestuff
• Antoine Lavoisier
• William Thompson (Lord Kelvin)
• Thomas Edison
• Michael Faraday (give them a crack at his "The Chemical History of the Candle")
• [Jacques Cousteau]
• John Holland (computer science) [There's also John Philip Holland, a marine engineer.]
• Walther Flemming (discoverer of penicillian)
• Pres. Calvin Coolidge (mining engineer, gave one of the best descriptions of the joy of engineering I've ever seen)

• Madame Curie
• Grace Hopper
• (There are a few women of Astronomy from around 1900 who should be interesting, but I don't know names) [How about Margaret Burbidge?]
• Richard Feynman
• Charles Darwin
• Gregor Mendel
• Murray Gell-Mann
• Linus Pauling
• Benjamin Franklin
• Paul Erdos
• [Roald] Hoffman (nobel science and literature)
• [Jacob] Perkins, inventor of the first synthetic dyestuff
• Antoine Lavoisier
• William Thompson (Lord Kelvin)
• Thomas Edison
• Michael Faraday (give them a crack at his "The Chemical History of the Candle")
• [Jacques Cousteau]
• John Holland (computer science) [There's also John Philip Holland, a marine engineer.]
• Walther Flemming (discoverer of penicillian)
• Pres. Calvin Coolidge (mining engineer, gave one of the best descriptions of the joy of engineering I've ever seen)

• Madame Curie
• Grace Hopper
• (There are a few women of Astronomy from around 1900 who should be interesting, but I don't know names) [How about Margaret Burbidge?]
• Richard Feynman
• Charles Darwin
• Gregor Mendel
• Murray Gell-Mann
• Linus Pauling
• Benjamin Franklin
• Paul Erdos
• [Roald] Hoffman (nobel science and literature)
• [Jacob] Perkins, inventor of the first synthetic dyestuff
• Antoine Lavoisier
• William Thompson (Lord Kelvin)
• Thomas Edison
• Michael Faraday (give them a crack at his "The Chemical History of the Candle")
• [Jacques Cousteau]
• John Holland (computer science) [There's also John Philip Holland, a marine engineer.]
• Walther Flemming (discoverer of penicillian)
• Pres. Calvin Coolidge (mining engineer, gave one of the best descriptions of the joy of engineering I've ever seen)

• Madame Curie
• Grace Hopper
• (There are a few women of Astronomy from around 1900 who should be interesting, but I don't know names) [How about Margaret Burbidge?]
• Richard Feynman
• Charles Darwin
• Gregor Mendel
• Murray Gell-Mann
• Linus Pauling
• Benjamin Franklin
• Paul Erdos
• [Roald] Hoffman (nobel science and literature)
• [Jacob] Perkins, inventor of the first synthetic dyestuff
• Antoine Lavoisier
• William Thompson (Lord Kelvin)
• Thomas Edison
• Michael Faraday (give them a crack at his "The Chemical History of the Candle")
• [Jacques Cousteau]
• John Holland (computer science) [There's also John Philip Holland, a marine engineer.]
• Walther Flemming (discoverer of penicillian)
• Pres. Calvin Coolidge (mining engineer, gave one of the best descriptions of the joy of engineering I've ever seen)