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Microsoft Office works with crossover office1 Modern linux distros have intergrated package manger! Please tell me, what was the last distro you tried, what was your hardware. It looks like your susing a mac, have you tried a Linux for mac distro such as Yellow dog! Moderators PLEASE I BEG YOU STOP MODDING UP LIES ABOUT LINUX! Linux HAS cleaned up its act! Please try a distro like Mandrake 10 befre you spout your uninformed drivel!

I recently installed Mandrake 10.0, and although it is still the community version with a few minor bugs, but ar being fixed, I can honestly say that Linux really is ready for the desktop. KDE 3.2 is wonderful, all my hardware works, hundreds of games and software packages and more. If you haven't tried a KDE 3.2 based distro such as Mandrake 10.0, SuSE 9.1, Gentoo 2004 or the soon to be released Slackware 10.0, please try it out and you will see why HP and others are rushing to bring out the latest Linux based desktop machines! P.S. If you have propreitery windows applications that you need to run, try crossover offfice! So get your self linux today and join me and THOUSANDS of Slashdot readers today in the Linux community!

Linux is starting to get installed on corporate desktops for one big reason, less anoyances!

No bonzi buddies, root system keeps users sandboxed away from trouble! Evoloution has really good virus protection, The linux kernel can disable the eject button on cd drives to stop them being used as cup holders.

If you are unhappy with your current job, concider rolling out Linux in your business today. With the latest products such as Xandros Business edtion, Sun Java Desktop and SuSE office desktop, Linux for business desktops is the natural choice. So stop worring, and be happy!

I have already rolled out Linux to several businesses, and my wage has increased, plus I am a lot happier! So talk to your manager about rolling out linux in your business, TODAY!

Don't forget to tell him about Crossover office!

As a web developer I use MSIE on X11 regularly, via the joy of Crossover Office, which is great for testing sites I'm working on under IE without having to reboot.

... as I cannot use StuidoMX or Photoshop on Linux

Yes you can use Photoshop in Linux, but I'm not sure about StudioMX.. Quanta is getting very good though you should check it. I also thought I heard something about Adobe taking Linux commitment seriously, does anyone have a link to back me up?

Before anything else you whould probably check out Crossover office. It runs a lot of windows aps really well, but it runs Office 2000 better than anything. If office aps are what you are mostly worried about then you might need to worry about the windows partition at all anymore.... I don't.

Crossover Office.

Have you tried using CrossOver Office? I use it on my Linux box and am able to run IE with no problems. It is really just a fancy frontend to Wine, but it works great.

The solution I have used for our lame IE-only-Javascript time reporting system is CodeWeavers Crossover Office. I'd say download the trial version and give it a go. I installed IE6 on Linux using it just recently, and it worked like a charm (slightly slower than the real thing, but good enough to get my hours in). My oldie-but-good-enough Office 97 works with Crossover as well. It's not free, but it's easy. If you need a 100% free solution, you might try the latest build of Wine (since that's what Crossover is built on), but difficulty of installation will vary.

The solution I have used for our lame IE-only-Javascript time reporting system is CodeWeavers Crossover Office. I'd say download the trial version and give it a go. I installed IE6 on Linux using it just recently, and it worked like a charm (slightly slower than the real thing, but good enough to get my hours in). My oldie-but-good-enough Office 97 works with Crossover as well. It's not free, but it's easy. If you need a 100% free solution, you might try the latest build of Wine (since that's what Crossover is built on), but difficulty of installation will vary.

You can switch to linux today. Get a distro with KDE 3.2! Its so more user freindly than Windows XP its not even funny anymore. There are THOUSANDS OF GAMES FOR LINUX with HUNDREDS preinstalled on most distros. There is also WineX to run propreitery Windows Games on Linux. There is crossover office to run those apps you need, OpenOffice 1.1! Its fast, its free, it is a good Office Clone for linux, plus if you really want office you can use crossover.

So make that day today, grab a distro such as Mandrake 10 and be part of the future, today!

I am currently running Acrobat, Photoshop, Illustrator 10, (Not Outlook but it can be installed), Dreamweaver MX, and Microsoft IE on my Crossover Office install, and it enables me to finally do my job on a linux box. I don't really care about the hardware drivers, because I buy hardware that works with linux.

Games...Well. That's something else entirely. I've got Neverwinter Nights and Unreal Tourney at the moment, and I used to have Warcraft III on my WINE install before I got bored by it, but really, I think it's better if I don't play many games. It's such a timesink!

So, just because you choose an alternative option doesn't mean you can't have those applications. By the way, if you're squeamish about paying for Crossover Office, you can get all these applications running under WINE, via these great tutorials on frankscorner.org.

Perhaps you should be looking at some official sites? You might find info a lot faster that way.

You should try the user-friendly wine apps, like crossover office and winex. Yes, they cost money, but they do work. Winex plays every game I want it to play, and crossover office already runs office, photoshop and, to a degree, flash mx. You can look through the list of supported applications on both the transgaming and the codeweavers websites. Really not that shabby. My guess is macromedia will pay the codeweavers people to make it work perfectly, just like disney paid codeweavers to make adobe's photoshop work perfectly.

And, yes, the code from codeweavers does flow back into wine. In fact, they now don't even need to backport it since they work straight on the main wine codebase. Transgaming however chose to stay with the X license when wine switched to LGPL, so their code doesn't flow back as much (all the directx stuff in wine is a fresh implementation which has nothing to do with the one in winex).

You should try the user-friendly wine apps, like crossover office and winex. Yes, they cost money, but they do work. Winex plays every game I want it to play, and crossover office already runs office, photoshop and, to a degree, flash mx. You can look through the list of supported applications on both the transgaming and the codeweavers websites. Really not that shabby. My guess is macromedia will pay the codeweavers people to make it work perfectly, just like disney paid codeweavers to make adobe's photoshop work perfectly.

And, yes, the code from codeweavers does flow back into wine. In fact, they now don't even need to backport it since they work straight on the main wine codebase. Transgaming however chose to stay with the X license when wine switched to LGPL, so their code doesn't flow back as much (all the directx stuff in wine is a fresh implementation which has nothing to do with the one in winex).

My experiences with WINE have been, shall I say, bitter.

Same here. That is, until I installed Crossover Office. I use it at work to run Outlook to connect to our Exchange 5.5 server since Ximian does not support that version. The rest of the apps work even better (Word/Excel/Powerpoint) but I usually use OO.org for those documents anyway.

and while I miss Photoshop

It probably was just configuration issues with wine. That is why you buy CrossOver Office for applications and WineX for games. These two apps run the popular MS Windows apps/games they support well and make it simple point-n-click to install/setup everything.

Disney paid to have it work very well under wine. I used it under CrossOver Office with no problems. It seems like it is working well for Walt Disney Co.'s feature animation unit. Though to be honest, I am a programmer and not a graphic artist and Gimp meets all my humble needs : )

Dreamweaver MX is already listed as a bronze application in Codeweavers Compatibility center's list of win32 apps. That means it is able to perform some of its functions under either the latest wine or crossover office 2.1 Take a look, vote for it and/or pledge money to help make it work.

Check out CodeWeavers' Crossover Office.

Well, outlook 2000 runs on linux. And if you're patient, it's just a matter of time before outlook 2003 does.

Well, outlook 2000 runs on linux. And if you're patient, it's just a matter of time before outlook 2003 does.

If you are able to talk with your bosses AND they agree to let you use Linux if you agree to use the company's choice of application here are two recommandations:

If they really want you to use M$ Office instead of OpenOffice, you can always turn to the Codeweavers Tools.

The other solution is connecting to a Windows Terminal Server from you Linux workstation (using rdesktop). The performance is Ok. You will be able to do all the M$ required job, from your confortable Linux destop

Both solutions are much better than having to revert to a complete M$ desktop.

Has IBM never heard of Crossover Office? Part of my job requires me to use Excel every day. I tried using the OOO spreadsheet program, but the formulas I was using in the spreadsheet (nothing beyond addition and division) weren't moving back and forth properly, and our customers use Excel.

I have a shortcut to Excel on my Gnome toolbar. It's that simple.

Doesnt CrossOver Office already do this? codeweavers.com

How about Crossover Office by CodeWeavers. You can run the full Office suite including Outlook and Access. It works VERY VERY well. Better than running on Windows actually.

or crossover office

If you'd like to do away with that Windows box but you need Quicken, you could use Crossover Office. Or maybe first try Wine since that's free, but I have had loads of more luck with Codeweavers' commercial version.

With stuff like : Easy to use installers Office compatibility Easy to use productivity software It is just a matter of time

This company has made a "port" of it, and its so good even disney use it to run photoshop on it

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I don't buy in to that for a couple reasons: (a) MS Project is not part of MS Office (b) Why didn't crossover "office" (emphasis on the office) then support all other Microsoft products known to man? Visio? VS.Net? Microsoft Bob (that would be funny) In fact here is some anecdotal evidence that proves nothing (but it looks like some people were succesful some not...). They also mention the WABI app in getting MS Project to work under Linux... View it here

Im FED up of people claiming Microsoft Office cant run on Linux. It CAN! There is a program called Crossover Office that can run not only Microsoft Office, but other top commercial apps such as Internet Exploder, Photoshop, Lotus notes and more!
But with the latest versions of the GIMP (now with cmyk), OpenOffice.org, Firefox (see my sig) and the Kompany there is really is no excuse not to run Linux!

Useful quote from the review '...it's now so easy (and reliable) to use Word, PowerPoint, and Excel for reading doc, ppt, and xls files, that I'm beginning to fear that those programs -- which I was getting so good at doing without - - might no longer be relegated to the status of "options of last resort".'

Breaking the MS Office to Windows OS tie-in will seriously undermine the MS monopoly.

Read this story from last month about Xandros 2.0. With the crossover office built in, it's easier than ever to simply select a Windows application you want to install, and it will guide you through it. Check out this screenshot and be amazed at how truly simple this is. I've been using this for the past couple weeks, and I have to say it's the first time I haven't had to go back into Windows to use Dreamweaver -- my primary app. Of course, the crossover office can be used with other distros, but I'm a Xandros convert through and through.

I don't know what no one has really talked about using both. If you want linux on the client use rdesktop to connect to a windows box with terminal services for the software you can't use on Linux or try CrossOver Office the other alternative is to have Windows on the client and use WinAxe or another X server to conenct to Linux. If you don't like thoes ideas you can also use Open Source Windows software

Dump that Windows workstation today! Quicken runs under linux!

I moved my scanner to my linux server and installed "sane". I installed "sane-twain" (free/OSS software) on my XP box, and it then accessed the scanner on the linux box quite happily. Some of the icons weren't as pretty as the windows driver, but all the same stuff was there.

Later I installed a dual-boot setup on my workstation. I used XP less and less because it was so SLOW and getting slower - I don't install much new software once i get set up either - and yes, I ran AdAware and anti-virus software.

Eventually, I only ever fired up windows to run Quickbooks. Now that I have Crossover Office installed, I don't even do that (crossover runs the native windows quickbooks just fine).

A few weeks ago I used Partition Magic to downsize my XP partition (which I had done once before) to make more room for linux. My XP partition was 15GB with about 3GB spare, while Linux was 8GB with no spare.

(un)fortunately, Partition magic trashed my XP partition..... so what did I do? stress? no... I just said "well, I don't use it, so why recover/re-install it? Partition Magic then proceeded to do a wonderful job deleting the XP partition and moving/resizing the Linux Ext3 partition. I now have a lovely 23GB linux partition with loads of free space. GNU parted provides similar capabilities on linux, though I have yet to check it out in person.

The best thing, is that I have a WinRadio card. Winradio stopped developing their linux drivers shortly after releasing a working open-source driver a few years back. Someone started a sourceforge page and updated the original driver. They haven't done any work on it for almost a year, but i was still able to download it and with about a day's work yesterday, I have my winradio card working on kernel 2.6. (yes, I have contacted the sourceforge page owner about sending the updates so everyone can use it).

Someone is going to say "but i can't write software so what good does that do me". My answer is that I don't write 99% of the software on my linux box. I just contribute where i can because i want to - it doesn't matter if I draw a few graphics, write code, make a web page, or do nothing at all, I can still use the work of people like myself.

The best part is that I don't have to start from scratch - I don't have to start writing the driver all over again just because Winradio don't want to update the drivers for my old card, and won't give me the source code. (although to their credit winradio do provide a windows driver for XP, even for this, their oldest card) Another example is the NVidia drivers - the official ones don't support Kernel 2.6 yet, but due to the open source component (the core of the driver and GL code is closed source), I can get a 2.6 driver from a third party, who, just like myself, did it for himself and released the result to the public.

Right now I have ALL my hardware working quickly and well, even though some of it is 5 or 6 years old, and ALL of it is 3+ years old, and I'm running the latest version of the OS.

I just can't get that anywhere else.

You're about to say "but I can't get drivers for the latest gadget". Well if the vendors followed the Winradio and NVidia examples, by releasing a linux driver, you wouldn't have that problem.

Because it is threatening its biggest cash cow. The Windows cash cow has already been slaughtered by Wine and Crossover office since people no longer need windows to run windows programs. Plus, the growing number of Native linux programs are also reducing this need for Windows. You can right now run Office under linux and other applications so there is no need for Windows.

Now Office is threatened by OpenOffice.org. A fully functional Office suite that is compatible with Microsoft files, and for free! OpenOffice 1.1 came out recently, and it is becoming insanley popular. It dosent have the speed problems that 1.0 had, so if you hated OpenOffice because it was slow, try it again and see that 30 second start up times are no more. Id be surpised if anyones machine takes more than 10 seconds to load on this version. Also the latest snapshot builds are even faster, so grab a copy and live fast.

The file format inport and export is very excellent, and of production quality. I have worked on documents that are 100s of pages long and they are PERFECTLY exported into doc foramt. I really applaud the OpenOffice team for reverse engineering all these file formats.

So yes, this quality Office Suite is Scaring microsoft. They know they cant use their usual tricks, so they need to use other methods, such as FUD and patents.

So, if you havent tried the latest OpenOffice.org yet, try it today, and see why Microsoft is trying to patent it away. Plus it has two killer features, PDF creation for Documents and FLASH (SWF) creation for Presentations.

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FWIW, CodeWeavers has a commercial version of Wine which can run Lotus; it's supported too.

FWIW, CodeWeavers has a commercial version of Wine which can run Lotus; it's supported too.

Now OOo, which was the point of discussion. Last time I checked OOo, it was at 1.1beta, so I downloaded and installed the new 1.1. Started Ooo Writer, opened the RTF version of the project memo: completely FUBAR. Margins, enumerations, TOC and lots more screwed up. Then I opened the original DOC in OOo; slightly better. Have the bugs been solved that I logged a year ago? Nope. Problems with the symbol font, table cells, enumerations? Yes.

Now you see why I still use MS Office (using Crossover Office)? It's because the rest is not compatible! IMHO, OOo should concentrate on getting the filters flawless. I've done my part with logging bugs but if nothing is done about them, I stop that, too.

That's true and I think a shining example of this is CodeWeavers. They have a special page that details what works and what doesn't in their products. I've linked many times to these guys in my posts on slashdot, I love 'em.

That's true and I think a shining example of this is CodeWeavers. They have a special page that details what works and what doesn't in their products. I've linked many times to these guys in my posts on slashdot, I love 'em.

You could have taken 5 seconds and looked it up yourself. Yes, Crossover does support Access, although only Access 2000 and they say it's not 100% flawless (but then again, neither is Access on Windows).

There is, though it costs $30.

What about Code Weavers

I need those programs...

Crossover office. Seriously. Try it. Buy it. It's most definitely worth the price.