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* The document talks about "savepoints", not "checkpoints"
* These allow for partial transaction rollbacks.
* This is a rarely used feature (in that most applications just don't use it.) Notably, MSSQL just doesn't even have this ability (it only allows whole transactions to be rolled back).
* So chances are, PostgreSQL (or the AWS version of same; which has its own storage engine) does have some contention under high use of this feature (which, after all, isn't used by that many people.)
* Consequetnly, my guess: Anyone that uses a LOT of savepoints under high load. But many people just don't use that.

That average value of a 4-year degree is increased earnings income of $900,000, almost a million dollars.

This article can shed some light on it: http://www.dba-oracle.com/t_hi... Looks like RAM is the laggard.

So, I don't see why they should have to even remove the links.

Here's the legal reasoning as to why, from someone who actually is a lawyer:

http://www.dba-oracle.com/internet_linking_libel_lawsuit.htm

It's a shame it doesn't work on pictures - I want my Don Burleson Bobblehead!

I thought unauthorized access of a network was supposed to be a crime. Just because I broadcast my SSID in plain text, that doesn't mean that I'm authorizing you to view it:

http://www.dba-oracle.com/t_unauthorized_access_computer_network_crime.htm
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/07/01/1637211/judge-oks-wiretap-lawsuit-over-google-wi-fi-sniffing

Apparently the law thinks that intentionally broadcasting something in plain text doesn't mean that it's free for everyone to use.

If you read my SSID without my permission, I'm calling the cops!

Kegogi tastes like a wet dog smells, apparently.

Everyone's favourite TV tech support site, http://www.expertsexchange.com/

The rest, from http://www.dba-oracle.com/oracle_news/news_fun_urls.htm:

http://www.kidsexchange.com/ - Kids clothing
http://www.whorepresents.com/ - Celebrity agents
http://www.therapistfinder.com/ - Site to find therapists
http://www.powergenitalia.com/ - Italian power generator supplier

Oh? I think you're quite mistaken about that. There are thousands of similar examples, BTW...

I guess if you are building a business bigger than eBay, then relational databases may not do the trick anymore. If you lack imagination anyway.

See here for more information. And eBay is not the only one. I wouldn't put mission critical data on a garden variety noSQL database unless I really really hated my customers and planned to go out of business fast.

Garden variety NoSQL is great for data you can mostly throw away and no one is going to sue you as a result. Facebook, Twitter, Google. Perhaps not so much for financial transactions. If the knowledge leaked out that any bank was using a typical not-particularly consistent, nor particularly durable NoSQL system for transaction data, a run on the bank would soon ensue, at least from anyone advised by anyone who had a clue.

A good lawyer is worth their weight in gold

better check your calculations....

weight of lawyer: 200 lbs
weight of lawyer: 2,916.67 troy ounces
price of gold : $1,246.72 USD per troy ounce
worth of lawyer : $3,636,270.82 USD

His calculations aren't off. A merely average lawyer is worth well over $3 million over their career, a good one presumably quite a bit more.

As I wrote about here, inspired by the Virgle April fools joke, I see Google as being conflicted about its identity in a world that could provide abundance for everyone if we made a post-scarcity ideological shift, but which currently does not because a scarcity ideology is still dominant:
"A Rant On Financial Obesity and an Ironic Disclosure "
http://www.pdfernhout.net/a-rant-on-financial-obesity-and-Project-Virgle.html
"""
Look at Project Virgle and "An Open Source Planet":
http://www.google.com/virgle/opensource.html
Even just in jest some of the most financially obese people on the planet (who have built their company with thousands of servers all running GNU/Linux free software) apparently could not see any other possibility but seriously becoming even more financially obese off the free work of others on another planet (as well as saddling others with financial obesity too :-). And that jest came almost half a *century* after the "Triple Revolution" letter of 1964 about the growing disconnect between effort and productivity (or work and financial fitness):
http://www.educationanddemocracy.org/FSCfiles/C_CC2a_TripleRevolution.htm
Even not having completed their PhDs, the top Google-ites may well take many more *decades* to shake off that ideological discipline. I know it took me decades (and I am still only part way there. :-) As with my mother, no doubt Googlers have lived through periods of scarcity of money relative to their needs to survive or be independent scholars or effective agents of change. Is it any wonder they probably think being financially obese is a *good* thing, not an indication of either personal or societal pathology? :-( ...
The fact is, there are far more than six *million* millionaire families in the USA who would never have to "work" another day in their lives if they were frugal (and so could work full time on space settlement or other worthwhile charitable free ends).
http://www.dba-oracle.com/t_billionaire_next_door.htm
There must just be a failure of imagination that keeps them from it. Or an excess of a certain capitalist religion shown on a libertarian-leaning college mailing list I am on (and usually disagreeing :-). Or a failure to be able to define "enough" and move beyond a fear of becoming poor. And the millionaires I've known or heard of who became suddenly wealthy generally are suddenly adrift in a life that has not prepared them for thinking about deep questions like what their values and priorities really are and why -- and working through that takes time which they often don't have as money runs away from them spent on trivialities of "their stillborn adult lives". And the stable millionaires who have slowly earned their wealth are often so enmeshed in the current order of things to make it hard to see beyond it (a current order which they may well have genuinely and sincerely tried to make better, like at Google, and even succeeded at doing so to an extent, within the bounds of Empire.) ...
Maybe the millionaires and billionaires and trillionaires (governments) out there should think on Spock's choice as capitalistic and militaristic irrational exuberance starts reentering the stratosphere (wars over food, water, arms, climate, and oil profits, and yes, blowback from terrorism).
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=globalization+blowback
And actually do something besides compete and mak

The review of this book doesn't make it obvious to me. Is this book really about refactoring or is it about query tuning?

IMHO, the former doesn't really need to be db vendor specific. Refactoring should encompass all code and not just the SQL. Looking for ways to refactor from an ORM perspective makes sense such as lazy evaluation and strategic caching.

Query tuning is an important topic with which there are already plenty of resources devoted to it.

Basic economic theory applies. Monopolies give worse service than marketplaces, and charge more for it. If you believe software support is some weird exception, feel free to demonstrate that.

As one example, consider this page. They say:

During your call for technical support, Oracle may try to sell you consulting services at prices which can be over $500 per hour.

Unfortunately, Oracle Corporate Consulting has a reputation for being very expensive and using mediocre consultants.

I've never dealt with Oracle's in-house consultants, because I'm not dumb enough to spend good money on Oracle's software. But on occasions when I have been forced to deal with other large captive consulting/professional services groups, that's been my experience, too.

You can get excellent open-source consultants for less than half those rates. My guess is that $500/hr would get you the attention of pretty much any core open-source team member out there.

The school district where this occurred was apparently in Pennsylvania which is not one of the states (http://www.dba-oracle.com/oracle_news/news_states_criminal_libel_web_internet.htm/) with laws making libel a criminal act so while the student may have been subject to a civil lawsuit, criminal prosection was not an option.

[quote]Who hasn't done something goofy and thought in retrospect wished they hadn't done it (not necessarily something criminal). Google might make their "second chance" disappear.[/quote]

If only finding out about these youthful misdemeanours could end someone's career...

http://www.dba-oracle.com/images/bill_gates_albuquerque.jpg

From elsewhere on that site:

The "dick out" is a somewhat archaic golf tradition that originated on military golf courses, where any golfers whose tee shot that did not make it to the ladies tee is required to un-zip and walk to his ball exposed, ostensibly to show that he is indeed a man. In practice, if a client or a superior declares a dick-out on your tee shot, you should comply, unless of course, there are women present.

Either he's not serious, or golf is a much more disturbing game than I had imagined.

On another note I'm an Oracle DBA but I ain't dressing like this?! http://www.dba-oracle.com/dress_code.htm ; The sad thing is I think he's serious.

There was this one guy at my old work who's keyboard smelt like KFC because I guess he didn't find it finger licking good, another gaffe.

On another note I'm an Oracle DBA but I ain't dressing like this?! http://www.dba-oracle.com/dress_code.htm ; The sad thing is I think he's serious.

Any tech who thinks that they can cut the best code and will one day make it to the top because of the awesome code they've been writing, or problems they've been fixing is living in a fantasy land unless they drastically change something.

The management world is a world away from rational scientific thinking where fortunately/unfortunately some techies live. Management makes decisions based on money and sometimes pride. If you're a techie fixing a problem chances are the senior types are thinking 'hurry up and fix it fatso' but saying to you 'How are you? We really need this fixed, if you could work on it and give me an ETA that would be greeeaat'. If you really want to be "in", you have to start throwing around management mumbo jumbo and acting like a prick to people. Kiss some arse at a few out of work functions, start staying back late and soon you'll be delegating that code cutting to some other 'fatso'.

Before they launch cyber-attacks against the US.

Oops, too late!

"lets see you install oracle on a debian server, or any other posix server not supported directly by oracle."
I don't think that's what's meant by legacy | existing environment. Nobody installs Oracle on a box that's just laying around. That's dumb. If you're gonna invest in Oracle, then you won't put it on an old box just laying around. That's building your house on the proverbial sand.

"An analogy would be to look at cars, the car with 100k is going to probably be in better shape then the one with 200k, regardless of how old either of the cars are. Also, the new cars have up to date technology in them and will stand the long haul better while operating more efficiently."
Now, that's a Bad Analogy.

"It's available, it's expensive, and don't think you won't be paying the oracle dba or the ms dba craploads of money anways,"
Who pays MSSQL DBAs craploads? Every MSSQL DBA I know is a point-and-click guru. It takes a special freak to be a good Oracle DBA; they get the money I'd imagine.

"this article is very "managerial" and it's the kind of stuff I'd expect to hear out of an incompetent boss."
Agreed, the article was a bunch of fluff. However, a few good points were made. If you have a senior DBA who wants Oracle and can properly maintain it, my goodness, use it. If you have a good DBA, Oracle is flat out awesome and shreds anything else that dares compete. If you don't have a good (read trained, certified) Oracle DBA and can't or won't pay one, then don't even try to run Oracle. Use MySQL.

Oh, and I assume you're talking about the TimeLine law suit? Actually that came about because TimeLine cancelled Microsoft's licensing agreement, which gave MS license to the patents. Unless you mean another law suit then please, stop trying to paint SQL Server as containing some sort of patent theft and Oracle as squeaky clean.

Mess with Oracle, and this guy will mess with you.

FTFS: But they are amateurs on everything security related.

Exactly - because only amatuers would force their customers to use cscript as part of the patching process.

M$ and Firefox manage to release security patches that install themselves. Why can't/won't Oracle do the same?

Maybe it's job security for that abortion known as MetaLink.

Or maybe it's so these clowns can charge Oracle's customers $1000 an hour to not fix anything.

Make sure you charge them a proper consulting rate, or they won't think they're getting their money's worth. . .

Here's some consulting dress codefor professional Oracle Database consultants. That could teach something for OSS about how to look in front of a customer. And how important is to look good when customer is *NOT* seeing you.

Anyone who hates their dress code? Be happy your not working for this guy.

Grooming - All hair, moustaches and beards must be neatly groomed and cologne must be used sparingly. Protruding nasal hair is prohibited and all tattoos must be fully hidden. If you have been working all-night and have an early morning meeting, you can use an anti-inflammatory hemorrhoid cream (e.g. Preparation H) to quickly shrink those unsightly puffy bags under your eyes. Just carefully dab the ass cream on your lower eyelids (being careful not to get any in your eyes) and you will look fresh and well-rested.

here you go. They must all be IT staff...

Here's the expert on all such sartorial and cosmetic crisis: http://www.dba-oracle.com/dress_code.htm Ah, I'm glad to be working somewhere with absolutely no dress code ;)

Your trolling skills could use some work...

"Anyone who hires this moronic company to do work
deserves what they get."

Please look about half-way down the page.

http://dba-oracle.com/

Those "morons" seem to have authored about 50 Oracle books.

Does the phrase "wrote the book on X" make sense to you? Do you usually consider the writers in question to be "morons"?

"Anyone who hires this moronic company to do work deserves what they get." ...which is leaps and bounds above anything you could ever deliver.

P.S. Your reply was NOT FUNNY AT ALL. Work on it.

You haven't been working for these guys, now have you? :-)

Nope. Articles I have read over the years, such as this or this, tell me that Ellison hates Gates.

Perhaps I should have posted the links above in my original comment.

Better a renegade programmer than a redneck DBA. Or something.

Better a renegade programmer than a redneck DBA. Or something.

Hell yeah! Here's Oregon's army.

I'd like to point out that Amazon DOES NOT use MySQL before the MySQL kiddies say "see, it can scale!"

You could always outsource your Oracle work to Donald K. Burleson.

There's also good job oportunities there, provided you can follos the dress code. Is it just me, or does this guy have a strange obsession with body hair.

You could always outsource your Oracle work to Donald K. Burleson.

There's also good job oportunities there, provided you can follos the dress code. Is it just me, or does this guy have a strange obsession with body hair.

If Oracle "killed" Peoplesoft, customers would simply move to SAP. This takeover will tie peoplesoft to the oracle database product. With Oracle moving to support linux, maybe we'll see more linux support. More enterprise applications running on linux is always a good thing. There is only so much economic value to a gameboy running linux.