Slashdot Mirror

On the other hand, there is abundant evidence across all sectors that simply changing the name on a resume to a female sounding name or to a black sounding name reduces the number of callbacks you receive on that resume

This isn't "all sectors" though, this is the IT industry. In this industry, the evidence suggests recruitment outcomes are better for women. e.g.
http://blog.interviewing.io/we...

Not just the IT industry either:
https://pmc.gov.au/sites/defau...

. Women and people of color are less likely to be promoted, to earn similar pay

You have evidence for this? I have evidence that suggests otherwise:
http://media.dice.com/report/m...

Forget black people being shot by police, forget the massive pay and gender gaps in the workplace, forget every real challenge facing the world

Oh no! A population group is demanding the very fucking same equality that everybody else is demanding and suddenly it's wrong?

By the way, there are no massive fucking pay gaps in the workplace and I really can't be arsed providing links to the 78 studies that demonstrate this so you'll just have to take my word on it - or try actually showing some fucking evidence of your own instead of a hate filled sexist racist rant.

No wonder you found the entire document objectionable, it challenged your bigotry.

"New languages"?

Pssht! As if!

Man, there's so many varieties of Object-Oriented C you could jizz your pants without even touching yourself.

C is the Primal Language. Before C we have clicks and whistles.

This isn't even a fucking conversation. I'm not hearing what anybody says except my own opinion, because I know my opinion is right, so this isn't a conversation.

What did that dude say in "Fight Club"? "This. Conversation. Is. Over."? Right? Well man thissuh conuhversationuh isuh nottah happenun.

This is some bullshit. Fuck, there are HLA interpreters that are more popular than JAVA -- WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO CODE.

Man this is so much bullshit. I can't believe there's no viewpoint, no slant, no perspective, no synonym of whatsoever with this article.

That's the new owners of Slashdot. This site is dead. If you can diss C because some homie of yours called you up and needed some help raising interest in some particular market, towards a hopeful stock point, maybe on some IPO to come, maybe on something pre-existing, then fuck it, it ain't news any more, man, and it ain't for anybody but the "business school" {nested: "nerds"}.

When you say things like "This isn't even a fucking conversation. I'm not hearing what anybody says except my own opinion, because I know my opinion is right, so this isn't a conversation" and "What did that dude say in 'Fight Club'? 'This. Conversation. Is. Over.'? Right? Well man thissuh conuhversationuh isuh nottah happenun.", It becomes blindingly obvious you are either high on drugs, drunk with some shots I would pay to learn the composition of, or suffer an untreated case of a narcissistic personality disorder combined with the temperament of a three year old, because this is a public. forum, not your personal soapbox. You want to rant on about how unfair a major index has ranked a language you imply you know very little about, without any rational debate, feel free to take it to your Twitter page.

Oh. And uh, while I personally believe it's unethical to provoke those who are (at least at present) mentally incapacitated, I thought I should show you a little what the previous owners of Slashdot, Dice, ran a few years ago. I can sense the sound of your head exploding, eh?

2) Fire them. Hire somebody else that you hope will perform better.

This is what Amazon's stack ranking does.

Other companies that use HR policies like forced raking have similar creeping problems. Companies like Google and Yahoo use it even though it is a toxic idea from Microsoft. It's an HR policy so bad that Microsoft got rid of it after losing nearly a decade worth of productivity.

If you've never experienced it, the best description is somewhere between 'Hunger Games for IT' and 'Crony Capitalism applied to employee retention.' But it is a fabulous way to justify paying huge bonuses to the "top" 1% while firing people you don't like.

There are plenty of degreed programmers that can't get jobs, and it's because companies claim they need senior level guys.

Well then perhaps they should start applying to more places. Here's a short list of 4 job searches just within 25 miles of Farmington Hills, MI.

- Simulink (99 of them are $100k+).
- RTOS
- dSpace
- OSEK

They even have sponsored job listings like this one. [dice.com]. (I doubt they'd pay to sponsor it if they're just using it as an excuse to hire a H1B). Full time. Very good Embedded C knowledge required. Also need to have relevant modern skills like knowledge of CAN, LIN, and FlexRay.

Those results can be replicated in multiple parts of the country. Look for locations near any Aerospace, Heavy Machinery or Automotive companies.

If those 'degreed programmers' can't find a job perhaps they don't have skills relevant to the job market anymore. I don't know about you but I could personally apply to a majority of those positions and get a call back within a day. (And I do every so often to ball park my worth on the open job market).

When I hear "Took our Jerbs" I'm reminded of Bob.

Bob was 5 years away from retirement when I started in 2005.

Bob refused to learn AutoCAD. He "didn't trust it". Any task that required drawing would take Bob 5-10x as long as anyone else.

We put an intern in charge of shadowing Bob.

When Bob retired his job was taken over by a few python scripts (He didn't trust Excel's Sort either) and the other stuff was absorbed by fresh graduates that worked much cheaper than Bob.

Bob insisted he was 'highly skilled' because he had a Masters Degree. He thought he was in high demand and could take off to any company when in reality it was just too much work to fire him and he did his job 'ok' enough to make it to retirement. If Bob was in his 30s or 40s we would have dropped him for a fresh college graduate that had modern skills. Bob would have probably sat on Slashdot complaining about being "highly skilled" but not being able to find a job.

For all those "highly skilled programmers" looking for jobs, here are a few within 25 miles of Farmington Hills, MI.

- Simulink (99 of them are $100k+). (Simulink is a 'dirty' graphical programming language that Slashdot likes to mock.)
- RTOS
- dSpace
- OSEK

They even have sponsored job listings like this one.. (I doubt they'd pay to sponsor it if they're just using it as an excuse to hire a H1B). Full time. Very good Embedded C knowledge required. Also need to have relevant modern skills like knowledge of CAN, LIN, and FlexRay.

Those results can be replicated in multiple parts of the country. Look for locations near any Aerospace, Heavy Machinery or Automotive companies.

How about some real statistics for a change ?

1- Unemployment in the tech sector is very small.. The unemployment rate in the tech sector is 2.5%. Whole classes unemployed ? who are you kidding? Show us the numbers.
2- The tech sector is tiny. Excluding Manufacturing and Telecom, the tech sector represents 2% of the workforce. No surprise the politicians don't care much about it.

Why?

Since about 2004, I've at least 4 times searched for PostgreSQL vs MySQL. Each time PostgreSQL came ahead in most areas, including referential integrity, fewer gotcha's in the use of NOT NULL and other SQL features.

I've worked with both, and find PostgreSQL easier to setup, manage, and to query.

Have a look at:
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wi...
http://insights.dice.com/2015/...
MySQL vs PostgreSQL - Why you shouldn't use MySQL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Best to think about what is important in YOUR project given YOUR situation, and do YOUR own search. Note that the pros & cons forever change!

What is applicable in one situation, may not apply to another. However, I would expect PostgreSQL to be the better choice in most situations.

Sounds like Microsoft's completely fucked-up "stack ranking" bullshit...

Google has the same system.

Did anyone else notice that none of the links to the report in TFA from the headline link actually _go_ to the Dice_TechSalarySurvey_2016.pdf report at all?

It's good marketing for Dice, I mean I didn't have a Dice profile before, and I do now, but... man was that sneaky. I thought that once I had an account and logged in, I'd get the link, but no... fill out your profile! Then I assumed that if I had a filled-out profile, then I'd get the PDF, but noo! Finally took myself over to el Goog and found the actual salary report, which was behind another separate e-mail collecting form: www.dice.com/salary. For anyone who did actually want to read the whole report. All three of us...

Calling the Java server 2000 times takes 2687 milliseconds. Calling the C# server 2000 times takes 214 milliseconds. The C# one is still much faster.

You are a funny guy in an idiot kind of way. You anchor your argument with an extremely questionable benchmark from http://insights.dice.com/2013/01/17/java-vs-c-which-performs-better-in-the-real-world-2/

The author of that article didn't publish the source code, but after another round of tests he concludes with:

Having worked as a professional C# programmer for many years, I’ve been told anecdotally that .NET is one of the fastest runtimes around. Clearly these tests show otherwise....Java is the clear winner here.

And he calls himself a professional C# programmer, not Java!

She's dead, man. Let her go.

The Fall Of Perl, The Web's Most Promising Language http://www.fastcompany.com/302...
5 Programming Languages Marked for Death http://insights.dice.com/2014/...
Perl is Dead. Long live Perl. http://archive.oreilly.com/pub...

Meta-troll: Mod me a troll. Do it! Do it! Waste your shiny mod point to make my dream come true.

Please provide references. Something like this: Java vs C#

Thank you for your interest in purchasing SlashdotMedia.

You can send your offer over this form:

http://www.dice.com/profman/se...

Here's a hint: 2-3% unemployment.

http://resources.dice.com/2015...

Even during the "Great Recession," general unemployment peaked around 10%, and that was a few points higher than the Tech industry unemployment rate; If you're still struggling to find a job today, then you are, demonstrably, in the bottom 2-3% of the workforce. Even in 2009, you were in the bottom 10%.

Again: it's not your resume, it's you.

They're called "medical coders" and, yes, it's a real position and a really large industry. Since we're all owned by Dice.com now, Dice has over 5000 positions for medical coders.

And as someone else noticed, the codes are intentionally designed to make no sense. Why is all the information in a binder and not a computer? Because you need to know the "right" codes and just because the code name matches the diagnosis doesn't mean it's the right code for the diagnosis. You need to look up the details in that giant binder to make sure it matches.

Having worked for a month on a project that dealt with EMRs, I'm personally amazed that healthcare in this country isn't even more messed up than it is. Want to know why costs are going up with Obamacare? Bullshit like ICD-10 and the requirement to move everything over to an EMR if you want to get reimbursed via Medicare.

I'm pretty sure the UX team that forced Beta on us generated this site. They were trying to consolidate or synergize their web crap to make it easier for them to maintain. Of course, the obvious (to us) drawback is that it made /. look and act like one of their cookie-cutter websites.

Read the blog post again. http://insights.dice.com/2015/...

"I think that’s pretty cool, given we’re generating that automatically from job descriptions posted on our site. We also tried using the resume dataset, but the results were of a lower quality, as the skills extracted from resumes can be from different jobs."

It was extracted from job-postings, which would only identify Schelling points in the hiring industry, not skill clusters common to people with certain desirable skill sets; in other words, it "how to fudge your resume", rather than "how to find employees like the ones I have which I like".

jQuery isn't without its controversies

Huh?

and some developers distrust its use in larger projects because (some say) it ultimately leads to breakage-prone code that's harder to maintain.

This article is less critical of jQuery than the summary led me to believe. It just warns you against two things: (1) a long procedure of code for the ready argument, "The Big Main Method Problem," and (2) DOM-centric code. But neither of these are problems, and neither of them are caused or even encouraged by jQuery.

After the click-baitish FUD, the summary goes on, saying you might as well use it anyway:

But given its prevalence, jQuery is probably essential to know

The phrase "probably essential" is a weird combination of a weak and a strong word, and may be a sign of a writer who is half asleep.

but what are the most important elements to learn in order to become adept-enough at it? Chaining commands, understanding when the document is finished loading (and how to write code that safely accesses elements only after said loading), and learning CSS selectors are all key. The harder part is picking up jQuery's quirks and tricks, of which there are many... but is it worth studying to the point where you know every possible eccentricity?

Who cares? The jQuery reference is easy to browse for whatever you need right now, and there's little need to understand one part of jQuery to use another.

So here's the link with the campaign tracking removed.

It looks like Dice is going to run a series of non-articles detailing what we should know, and have started to embed shit like "?CMPID=AF_SD_UP_JS_AV_OG_DNA_" this in their self-promoting URLs.

Click bait is click bait. Especially when done by sleazy assholes like Dice.

Fuck you, dicebags.

http://insights.dice.com/2015/...

Quartz combed through Negri’s LCA database and came up with a list of the average salaries for H-1B holders at a number of tech companies. Topping the list was Netflix, where the average H-1B holder could expect to earn $214,693 in 2014, followed by Box ($143,318), Etsy ($135,595), Twitter ($134,221), and Airbnb ($134,039).

Searchable database: http://data.jobsintech.io/

Why won't slashdot cover the sourceforge malware scandal? Oh, yeah, that's why. SHAME ON YOU DICE!

You've been spamming every single article today with a completely off topic comment. You're doing way more harm to your story's reputation than you are helping it - this belongs on a blog or something, not in the comments section of another story.

Why did Dice buy Slashdot?

Hey, that rhymes with "why does Rice play Texas?"...!

I wish I was professional ... no one wants to pay me. Certainly not Dice.


Why did Dice buy Slashdot?

So they could suppress discussions about their own scandals!

SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Dice has exclusive access to these loyal tech communities to heighten the visibility of your openings. Through automatic cross-posting, featured job modules and site-wide banner ads, we expand your pool of candidates.

Someone might want to tell that to the /. members!

Disclaimer: If I'm mistaken and there isn't a anti-dice sentiment here, plz disregard :D

Why did Dice buy Slashdot? So they could suppress discussions about their own scandals! SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Are you trolling?

No, he is not trolling, he is merely pointing out the power of propaganda as mentioned by the OP. I believe it should be more considered irony given the context off this story

I know my friend...

Why did Dice buy Slashdot?
So they could suppress discussions about their own scandals!
SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Are you trolling?

No, he is not trolling, he is merely pointing out the power of propaganda as mentioned by the OP. I believe it should be more considered irony given the context off this story

Why did Dice buy Slashdot? So they could suppress discussions about their own scandals! SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Are you trolling?

Why did Dice buy Slashdot?

So they could suppress discussions about their own scandals!

SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Why did Dice buy Slashdot?

So they could suppress discussions about their own scandals!

SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Why did Dice buy Slashdot?

So they could suppress discussions about their own scandals!

SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Why did Dice buy Slashdot?

So they could suppress discussions about their own scandals!

SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Why did Dice buy Slashdot?

So they could suppress discussions about their own scandals!

SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Why did Dice buy Slashdot?

So they could suppress discussions about their own scandals!

SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Why won't slashdot cover the sourceforge malware scandal?

Oh, yeah, that's why.

SHAME ON YOU DICE!

Why won't slashdot cover the sourceforge malware scandal?

Oh, yeah, that's why.

SHAME ON YOU DICE!

So did you think this was going to mean some CS classes for you, poor little Appalachian white boy?

Slashdot readership - the new advocacy front for IT jobs for poor Appalachian kids.

k.

Dice, Dice, Baby!

So did you think this was going to mean some CS classes for you, poor little Appalachian white boy?

Slashdot readership - the new advocacy front for IT jobs for poor Appalachian kids.

k.

Dice, Dice, Baby!

So did you think this was going to mean some CS classes for you, poor little Appalachian white boy?

Slashdot readership - the new advocacy front for IT jobs for poor Appalachian kids.

k.

Dice, Dice, Baby!

(btw, DICE, maybe you need to be screening this stuff a bit better ? iirc, those sort of job postings are illegal)

GCC was never "the best compiler out there".

Yes it was and is.

At one point it was SO bad that they had to switch to EGCS and rename that to GCC.

One version of GCC was bad once does not imply

. You can also get compilers from Intel, Pathscale, etc., that perform better. Pick your poison :-)

Yeah and GCC is beater in a number of measurable areas.

GCC supports more processors.

In terms of language support, GCC has them all beat to hell.

In terms of C++11 and C++14 support, GCC got there far before all of them (excpt LLVM/C++14).

GCC still has the best optimizer of all the compilers except for Intel on Intel processors (not even x64 since Intel hobbles performance on non intel compilers). GCC beats Pathscale http://www.phoronix.com/scan.p...

Oh and actually with recent GCC, it often outperforms the intel compiler too:
http://news.dice.com/2013/11/0...

It also seems emperically to be the most robust compiler with fewer ICEs than any of the others. So to sum up, GCC has:

More instruction sets
More languages
Better C++ support (LLVM beat it to C++14, GCC caught up)
A better optimizer
More robust

Than basically every other compiler.

About the only thing GCC doesn't yet do as well is optimize for size rather than performance, where IAR embedded workbench seems to be the winner though holy fuck that's otherwise a heap of shit). There also seem to be some specialist FORTRAN compilers which do a bit better on some FORTRAN benchmarks.

But nonetheless, I am 100% confident in stating that GCC is the single best compiler out there and nothing beats it in more than isolated categories. Or if you prefer, if you had to pick one compiler to work with to the exclusion of all others you'd be mad to chose anything other than GCC.

The GCC/ECGS thing is ancient history and totally meaningless to the performance of the recent compiler versions.

Alternate link

No, the beta you heard about so much looked suspiciously like this. I'll leave the reason why that was as an exercise for the reader. What you're commenting on is a variant of the classic layout and described a bit more here.

Alternate link

... And not sure public github or stack overflow are really as representative as they want to believe

Yeah.. why is this any better than:
TIOBE index: http://www.tiobe.com/index.php...
This story about python surpassing java as top learning language: http://developers.slashdot.org...
Or this about 5 languages you'll need to learn for the next year and on: http://news.dice.com/2014/07/2... ... those are all from the past year on slashdot, and there's loads more.

Next "top languages" post I see, I hope it just combines all the other existing stats to provide a weightable index (allow you to tweak what's most important). Maybe BH can address that :-)

Here's an alternate link for the first article.

Or better yet, skip it. Usual shitty dice.com summary article.

The linked lifehacker article seems pretty good and I largely agree with it. Couldn't make it through the second one.

Two things I would add from my personal arsenal:

- Try to kick ass at least once a week. This sounds weird, but it's worked very well from me. In the perfect world we would kick ass every day, but I think realistically we (or at least I) would quickly burn out. So instead I try to just randomly pick a day where I come in with the mindset that I'm going to just fucking own whatever I'm working on. The day is random and sometimes I skip a week, but I usually manage, and while you would think inconsistent performance would stand out, I've found (at least where I work) that it doesn't, and people tend to remember the kick ass days rather than the average days.

- Dive into the stuff that others avoid / are scared of / don't like doing for various reasons. I'm not saying take the shit jobs, but usually there are tasks programmers hate because they involve working with hardware, dealing with clients, travelling, or doing something out of their comfort zone. Become the <whatever> guy.

At least in proprietary software, people are paid to do it.

If you really believe that is true, I suggest you provide a list of all the companies advertising on Dice looking for "source code vulnerability auditors." Can't find any? That's because companies pushing out commercial software don't give a crap. It's hard enough just getting the get-the-features-out-focused managers to get why you're spending time writing tests, much less doing code reviews to look for vulnerabilities. I've even heard them say things like "It's not necessary because I found this free tool on the Internet that scans all your code for that, so we don't need to do manual work like that."

For a company that's all about jobs, Dice seems to give pretty terrible advice. This article was fine (by virtue of not saying anything that even the newest job hunter shouldn't already know.. surprised they didn't mention arriving on time and not dressing like a slob..).

This article however was painful to read: http://news.dice.com/2014/12/3...

Like, if I could personify an article, this would be one that I'd want to punch in the face.

It's fucking PROGRAMMING. It can be done ANYWHERE in the world.

Yes and no. There are key communication benefits experienced by a team being in one location, where they can all be awake and working at the same time. It's not as simple as that, and I can understand companies choosing to bring workers into existing teams.

Secondly, the companies pushing for more visas are NOT doing it because they're looking for the best and the brightest from around the world. They're doing it to drive the price of programming down.

Sorta. It's a case of expectations management. Companies don't want to train new employees, they want an off the shelf solution that can start work on day 1.

Here's an ad from slashdot jobs: http://www.dice.com/job/result/10114637/14-2434?src=19&CMPID=AF_SD_UP_JS_AV_OG_SR_&utm_source=Slashdot&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_content=&utm_campaign=Advocacy_Ongoing (sorry about the massive link).

They want:

A bachelors degree AND 5 years developing software in general AND 5 years with C# AND 5 years with recent versions of visual studio (wut) AND 5 years with HTML/CSS/JS/web programming AND 1 year of DB programming AND project management experience AND scrum experience AND sharepoint experience AND experience working with the US federal government AND team foundation server experience.

In other words, they want someone who has been working on their exact job or one functionally identical to it for 5 years. Big ask.

They aren't willing to just look for someone with 3 years of c#/web, and train them in all the other small areas. They want someone who exactly fits the specification, which is probably an employee hole that was left by someone else leaving after the company refused to pay them a fair wage for being an expert in that entire list.

Needless to say, they won't find an exact match in the US. There's probably only a few thousand people in the whole USA that match that precise specification, hence "skill shortage", and they look overseas.

If they were willing to invest, even a little, in a new hire, it would be easy as pie to find someone. How long does it really take someone to learn sharepoint and TFS? You could send them on a one week scrum workshop, and they'd be up to speed. 10k investment, tops.

But they won't, because they aren't willing to pay the person they hire enough to keep them after that person has trained with them for two years and becomes extremely valuable to them and justifiably asks for a raise. As a result, they see that two years of training as investing in an asset they will lose, so they lobby to be able to import exact fits rather then training local talent.

However, if they import someone on a work visa, they can train them, because the immigrant is functionally tied to the company. He might be able to transition to another company, but if the transition fails he will get deported.

I do believe a while ago there was another article that went through here talking about just this issue. Specifically about women's ability to negotiate their salary. An employer is going to try to pay *anyone (regardless of gender or race) as little as possible. If the prospective employee is not going to fight for their salary then they are going to get the least the employer puts on the table.

Here's a loosely related article posted on Dice because hey... it's posted on Dice ;-)

http://news.dice.com/2014/02/0...

The TFA author has an interesting perspective.

I dove into TFA because the description lists *Scala* with languages like COBOL as both being "unpopular"...not sure if Scala is "unpopular" in the way COBOL is that...

While reading TFA, I discovered his link to his other article of *5 Programming Languages to Learn*

in it, he lists HTML5/CSS3/PHP as *2* of the 5! haha! i hope this doesn't cause another round of "HTML5 isnt a language" arguments...Erlang gets a shout out

good articles...i'd stay away from anything M$ proprietary so that #F language or w/e I don't agree with...but i like his analysis in both articles and learned alot...