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Live CD with java, flash plugin and easy installsimplyMEPIS: http://www.mepis.org/ http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mep
i s/ http://www.mepislovers.com/ Based on Knoppix with some hardware detection improvment, and a very easy install if you want to put it on your hard drive. There is only one iso, so building your own might be a bit harder if you want to change the default wallpaper. As said in the title this Linux distro does not shy away from including proprietary software: Java and flash plugin, and a few other. While still being redrisbutable Including essentials applications for a desktop, with what is, in my opinion, a good choice: there is no alternative pre-installed. Though the choice might not be to your liking:- KDE
- OpenOffice.org
- Mozilla suite 1.7 with mozcalendar
- Solitaire
:) - Samba
- etc...
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Re:DanixBecause I only looked up the domain after seeing your post, so that I could include a link in my reply. (I just like to hyperlink key things in my posts to web forums.) Previously, I had only seen the name Danix on DistroWatch or someplace, but I did not check it out or find out its domain name. I'm sure that if I had seen danix.cz, I would have assumed it was Czech.
BTW, thank you for your other interesting comments on the subject of Danix.
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Here are some facts for your reading pleasure
> Can Reverse Engineering Help In Stopping Worms?
If you're running Windows, no, the only thing that can help you is to format your hard drive and install Linux. It's not enough to just buy a computer and log on and hope that Microsoft did their job and that Windows will protect you, because I am here to tell you the same thing that millions of others will tell you... Microsoft didn't do a good job and Windows won't protect you.
Windows, whether you choose to believe it or not, is the worst OS on the planet. Microsoft Windows makes it rather easy for a hacker or script kiddie to break into your Windows machine and steal your personal information or install a keylogger or mouse mapper. A keylogger keeps track of all the keys you press and sends this info to the person who installed the key logger. A mouse mapper collects info about where you mouse cursor is at any given time along with which mouse buttons you press, this info is also sent to the person who installed the mouse mapper. Windows also makes it far to easy to catch viruses/worms/trojans/malware/spyware/etc. If you are using Windows and you haven't become a victim of identity theft, it is only a matter of time before you do.
Besides that, Microsoft lies, cheats, and steals to promote their company - they even got caught trying to fake evidence in court. Their "Get The Facts" campaign is the biggest bs-fest I've seen in a long time. Does this sounds like a company you want to do business with? Do you really think such an untrustworthy company is going to help you or indemnify you if your Windows operating system causes you to get into trouble?
Here are some facts:
- Follow this link for a security report entitled: Security Report: Windows vs. Linux
- Here is a nice little report about Viruses: Linux vs. Windows
- And here is The U.S. government's warning to Web surfers to stop using Internet Explorer (IE) browser.
Windows is just full of problems and here is how to solve those problems. First of all, you need a good Linux operating system. You can go to Distrowatch and find more information about Linux distributions than you could ever want. You can also go to the Mandrakelinux website and check out their Linux distro and see some screenshots of Mandrakelinux.
Secondly, learn about your computer. You paid money for it, and you trust it with personal/private information. You must learn how to protect your computer if you expect your computer to protect the information that it contains. Microsoft Windows is not going to protect you or your computer - as many people have already learned.
It is not in your best interest to use Microsoft products because they are known only for failure and problems. Switch to Linux and learn about this awesome operating system. You'll thank me later :) -
Not informative, not funny, whee...Uhm, this isn't really news and isn't even really decent humor.
If you want something informative, there's the old reliable Distro Watch and if you want something funny, try:
- Funroll Loops
- Fedora fun
- [add your link here]
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Formerly advertisements, now news!
Many Free distros have on-going beta-test periods, why doesn't Slashdot mention them? Hell, go over to Distrowatch and make a few more announcements.
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Try GNUStep Live CD Re: Next
One way to check GNUStep out is by downloading and booting the GNUStep Live CD
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you can get patches...
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Re:what happened to the troll
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Re:should read "Alternatives to..."
Which one?
Red Hat? Debian? Yellow Dog? Ubuntu? Mandrake? Fedora? Knoppix? Suse? Gentoo?
Until linux standardizes out a little bit more it'll be hard for users to seriously consider migrating to it, and harder for sysadmins.
Yes, each one does things slightly different - different pathing, different packages, etc. But, copmare this against Windows - "Home" or "Professional." Two flavors, same program.
The right distro of linux for your use is a good thing - finding the right one for a particular use can be a *itch. -
105 distributions based on Debian
According to Distrowatch, there are 105 distributions based on Debian: Distrowatch independence.
What makes it so different from others to be quoted so often in Slashdot? -
Re:Oh WHY
Great! Just what the world needs: another Linux distro!
And for those of you with any doubt, I present: Distrowatch -
It's you own fault...
...by now any intelligent and well-informed person should know how insecure and bad Microsoft products are, the facts are all over the 'net. If you still run a Microsoft OS, then any trouble you run into is your own fault and you deserve to be hacked/virused/trojaned/wormed/etc. If you're not intelligent, or you don't keep yourself well-informed, then you don't need to be using a computer in the first place.
Install a Linux operating system and you won't be bothered by most infections. Mandrakelinux can be downloaded and installed for free and I have found, after installing it on over 100 machines, that it is faster and easier to install and use than Windows. You can even go to Distrowatch and learn more about the hundreds of different "flavors" of Linux, there's a Linux distribution for any need and taste. And, you can go to Easy Linux CD's and pay a few dollars for a Linux disto and have the CD's mailed to you if you don't want to download the files.
Stop being a statistic and do something about the problem. I am sick and tired of hearing Microsofties cry, moan, and complain when there is such an easy and affordable solution close at hand. There's no excuse not to use Linux.
This comment is an attempt to begin to teach people how to rid themselves of the Microsoft operating system problem and everything herein is true, as I have experienced it. However, this comment will probably be modded down due to the fact that Slashdot doesn't really care about the "truth". We shall see how it is modded. -
dratted middle-mouse-button!
that link should've been this.
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Re:I've said it before, and I'll say it again...
Dude, go to the certified distributions list url major linux distros including Red Hat, Mandrake, and Suse are in there!!
Please check facts before posting. Too bad you got modded up.
Of the top ten major distros only two, Mandrake and Suse, are on the LSB list. Fedora, Debian, Slackware, Knoppix, and Gentoo are not.
But I do have a question about LSB certified applications, are they required to run on any LSB certified distro no matter which hardware the distro is running on? -
Re:Advantages of Mozilla platform??
oeone: status: This distribution has been discontinued.
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Re:For a dead OS, they sure do release a lot
They don't *think* it's dying. Everybody knows FreeBSD is alive & *very* well (1 2 3 4
...). They just want to find somebody who takes them seriously, and that gets pissed of at them.
Dude... I don't know if you're a real FreeBSD user, but there's really nothing to be pissed off about...
Linux trolls are infesting /.BSD ? Well, just make fun of their lameness, or just ignore them. Or, better, just post in reply a series of links (like that guy did in some posts above) showing how "dying" BSD is. :-D -
Re:Well, their premise basically sucks.
>The simple fact is that Debian is Linux.
Gee, I wonder why you wrote this post as anonymous? ;-)
The main point here though is that Debian does *not* make up the totality of Linux usage.
Let's have another look at DistroWatch's top 10, shall we? Yes, Debian is at No 5. What you conveniently neglected to mention however is that Mandrake, Fedora, and SUSE are at No 1, 2, and 4 respectively. Slackware is at 6. So from this, we can fairly easily determine that while yes, Debian is highly popular, it is actually NOT the *main* focus at all. People are using a lot of other distributions as well besides Debian...which means that while those in the Debian camp get what they want, different approaches to things are still being looked at and developed.
For people here who really NEED to have it spelled out in such simple terms, here it is.
Diversity == Good. Homogeny == Bad.
Why is this? As I've said before, for the evolutionary model to function, there need to be a lot of different variants of any given thing...a lot of mutations, if you like...these mutations are basically a proving ground where the best solutions to given problems can be found. If we only have a single option, that doesn't happen. Things stagnate, and progress grinds to a halt. -
Re:They are little babies
Yes, there are more and more people everyday who are realize that Windows is bad idea. This is why Linux is become more and more popular and getting better everyday. Go to Distrowatch and choose a Linux for yourself. There are a Linux for everyone!
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Some Suggestions
Server software:- OpenBSD if you can handle it, (link with some info on how to install it here) hardened Gentoo if you can't. I'll probably get flamed for suggesting what seems like massive overkill there, but you mentioned wanting to keep the vermin out, and either of those two will definitely do it.
Client side, I'd probably go either Slackware or Gentoo again myself. Run X with either straight twm or maybe something like fluxbox if you really want, and set a dedicated account ("mozilla" or "guest") using Mozilla/Firefox as the actual login program/shell equivalent. Make sure that account also doesn't have anything other than read access outside that directory as well.
That may sound strange, but I figure the less you give people access to, the less resources you're giving them which they can then use to make mischief.
If you absolutely must, put Open Office on for them to do various other things, but doing that will blow the above plan out of the water almost completely. Personally I'd make it myself so that the only thing they have access to is a web browser. If they want to look up a book, do an HTML interface for the library DB, and they can do any other external surfing they want with that as well.
In terms of the surfing, have a deny-by-default firewall on the server...that way the only sites they can go to are those you specifically include. You won't have to worry about anyone using the system to download porn or other such nasty things, and it's a lot more robust at the firewall level than using some lame thing like Net Nanny that does hit-or-miss keyword screening. Also rather than locking the floppy drives on the clients, I'd actually disconnect the thing and pull it out. You most likely won't need it for anything yourself, and if you have it in there, any lock you've got on it will be pickable, which then opens up another avenue for trojans etc to be uploaded.
If you didn't care about security, you could probably get away with running the network with XP clients and a Linux server, but you mentioned wanting to keep deviants out, and that simply is not possible with anything from Microsloth, IMHO. I remember a few years ago on an NT box in a local library, Explorer was supposedly roped off, but Netscape had the option to change the default HTML source viewer from Notepad to something else, so on a whim I changed it to Explorer, went to view source, and lo and behold it worked, giving me complete access to the system. NT/XP's security quite simply isn't. ;-) -
Re:This might be political?!?Korea-Japan-China initiative to develop an alternative OS was to depend less on the US software industry. The result was Red Flag Linux.
I don't think Red Flag has anything to do with the Asian OS project. The CJK "alternative OS" project began last year or so, but Red Flag started in 1999. Most importantly, it only supports Chinese, not Korean or Japanese. Although KDE's standard tool sets may have other two languages available, I doubt that Red Flag's own management tools do. The Asian alternative OS is yet to come out.
I still have to agree with you on your comment. Non-US governments are moving so that they don't have to depend heavily on products of US corporations. The impact of this move is more than money-saving.
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Re:From a guy who just wants to use LinuxIt very much depends on which distro you are going for.
Now I don't know if there are other distros apart from YellowDog that runs on a Mac.
Assuming you want to install it on a Mac, otherwise you have more choice.
Installing a standard program should be a breeze - many or most Linux distros - have a way to fetch a program for you and install it automatically (some graphicall other through the console:apt-get [name-of-program] (Debian + others)
Most distros or distro-genre have this sort of "remote" installation.
urpmi [name-of-program] (Mandrake)
yum [name-of-program] .. etc (Yellowdog?)
Many even resolve you the headaches such as downloading necessary extra programs to make it work (the so called dependancies)
It's really not that bad.
Problems will start only if you want to get that much more from the system. Installing the latest video driver, or compiling a program from source (perhaps to gain speed, or perhaps because it's a rare program published only as source).
You might get mixed up trying to make things like Eclipse run - but I don't think you'd use it - its a development tool.
NVU is another example, an HTML editor that may be attractive to some but is not readily compiled for all distros.
Compiling is not that bad either; after the automatic "remote" installation (which should cover 70%) or Linux apps;
the following 4 lines performed as root should cover some 20% more:
tar xfz [program-source code].tar.gz
Scarier I agree.
cd [program]
./configure
make && make install
But for most of your basic needs you should be OK.
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postosuchus v's coelophysis
this article alluded to evolution I cant help think of microsoft as the archosour postosuchus and the various linuxes/bsd's as coelophysis competing for space in the late triassic (220 million years ago) as shown in the bbc's walking with dinosaurs. The fight for users is hotting up with the nimble carnivorous open source systems eating away at application space and users.
the fact they (MS) dont get it doesn't really surprise anyone. I don't think MS is worried so much about the techno~weenies for example who can download the source to mozilla and add some extra functionality and charge a client... they just miss milking the mum/pop operations and business who are experimenting with the zero cost option (or minimal cost compared to MS) desktop linux. Then trying out the office replacement (open office), the visio replacement (dia), the browser replacement (mozilla flavours) and the other applications that compete in linuxland.
you just have to look at distrowatch rank to guess at the usage patterns (increasing desktop usage?).
one of the greatest threats I've seen to MS is the innovative knoppix, mandrake move (and others) playable CD's that allow users to get a taste for linux without installing. who says linux is not innovating? I've yet to see a comparable windows product to counter this.
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postosuchus v's coelophysis
this article alluded to evolution I cant help think of microsoft as the archosour postosuchus and the various linuxes/bsd's as coelophysis competing for space in the late triassic (220 million years ago) as shown in the bbc's walking with dinosaurs. The fight for users is hotting up with the nimble carnivorous open source systems eating away at application space and users.
the fact they (MS) dont get it doesn't really surprise anyone. I don't think MS is worried so much about the techno~weenies for example who can download the source to mozilla and add some extra functionality and charge a client... they just miss milking the mum/pop operations and business who are experimenting with the zero cost option (or minimal cost compared to MS) desktop linux. Then trying out the office replacement (open office), the visio replacement (dia), the browser replacement (mozilla flavours) and the other applications that compete in linuxland.
you just have to look at distrowatch rank to guess at the usage patterns (increasing desktop usage?).
one of the greatest threats I've seen to MS is the innovative knoppix, mandrake move (and others) playable CD's that allow users to get a taste for linux without installing. who says linux is not innovating? I've yet to see a comparable windows product to counter this.
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postosuchus v's coelophysis
this article alluded to evolution I cant help think of microsoft as the archosour postosuchus and the various linuxes/bsd's as coelophysis competing for space in the late triassic (220 million years ago) as shown in the bbc's walking with dinosaurs. The fight for users is hotting up with the nimble carnivorous open source systems eating away at application space and users.
the fact they (MS) dont get it doesn't really surprise anyone. I don't think MS is worried so much about the techno~weenies for example who can download the source to mozilla and add some extra functionality and charge a client... they just miss milking the mum/pop operations and business who are experimenting with the zero cost option (or minimal cost compared to MS) desktop linux. Then trying out the office replacement (open office), the visio replacement (dia), the browser replacement (mozilla flavours) and the other applications that compete in linuxland.
you just have to look at distrowatch rank to guess at the usage patterns (increasing desktop usage?).
one of the greatest threats I've seen to MS is the innovative knoppix, mandrake move (and others) playable CD's that allow users to get a taste for linux without installing. who says linux is not innovating? I've yet to see a comparable windows product to counter this.
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Byzantine OS
Check out Byzantine OS for a good "browser only" Linux distribution.
It loads entirely into memory from the CD so that no hard drive is needed and the CD can be ejected after. It basically loads up bare Metacity and Mozilla suite with some modifications. I can see a library set up so that there's no hard drive in the computers and you check out a boot CD from the lab assistant with your library card. Get your library card back when you turn in the CD.
ByzantineOS is the future of the Internet Appliance. I set my parents up with Byzantine. They just hit the ON/OFF switch and it boots right into Mozilla. When they're done just hit the ON/OFF switch and there's no records or maintenance. When it gets updated I just reburn the CDRW. -
Re:Language barrierSet up a localized site, e.g. www.orkut.br where everything's in Portuguese
If I go to "www.Google.cm", becasue I'm in Hong Kong I'm immediately bounced to "www.google.com.hk", which is in Chinese by default. You may gather that I'm not Chinese, speak little and read less. Even if I go to the English version of this site, I rarely want to find Hong Kong sites at the top of the list (and when I do, I know how to do that). Another site that used to guess my language preferences from my IP was Distrowatch that also gave me a Chinese version of their site, with no way to change to English (Language selection reverted after selection)-- this bug has apparently been fixed, just checked it while getting the URL and saw English there for the first time.
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Re:I thought that Slackware was hard to install
Hit your favorite ftp,rsync,http or whatever source, grab it from the
/patches directory, download it, and type installpkg packagename. It grabs from the current directory where you downloaded to, and installs it.
That's a lot more work than apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. Stable never breaks either.
Slackware is quite flexible that way. There are many different ways to update your system. You can upgrade "by hand" like he described or use a number of different tools includingslapt-get --update; slapt-get --upgrade
Granted that is two additional letters at the front and two additional characters in the middle you must type for the command, but we Slackware users cope somehow. ;)
Slackware stable is rock solid and typically has up to date packages when it's released (see here for what comes with Slackware 10). And Slackware current? Bleeding edge packages without the bleeding edge stability.
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Re:What?!
Check out distrowatch Fedora has 1100 hits per day
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Not the easiest approach but...Gentoo
I'm a Java developer so I didn't need the VM stuff but I've gone from doing development on a Windows laptop to the same system with Linux. Gentoo is a pain to setup(first couple times around) but as far as laptop exp. goes for me I always end up needing the latest kernel, X server, etc in order to get everything working. But I am writing this from my laptop.
It took about a week and a half on and off to get my laptop(HP ze4240) fully working. We're talking 2.6.5 kernel, Xorg w/ dri cvs for 3d, linuxant modem driver, etc. But then you get in to things like my pcmcia DLink DWL-650 rev P 802.11b card wasn't support by the rev of the wlan software even in Gentoo so I had to go out and get the latest version of that.
You might just want to go to http://www.distrowatch.com/ and just try the most popular free distros till you get one that works on your system without too much hassle. You could also take a look at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and see how other people faired at various distros on your laptop model.
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Re:Why I don't use Linux
Hell, I don't even know where to download a Linux distro, and I read slashdot on a daily basis.
Ehm...ever tried to use Google? It's not that difficult to use...
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time, distros, choice, cost - was:Re:no, it isn't- that doesn't hold up to objective scrutiny.
My personal "investment" in windows involves quite a few modifications to the way it operates out of the box. Then again, i'm not suggesting that i'm an average windows user. I maintain my point, however, that the average PC user is more "spoiled" by windows, as (s)he will not have the need to do as many modifications as me.
- For example, your notion that it takes a lot of time to choose among different distros is just illogical: it takes no more time to choose SuSE than it takes to choose Windows
It's all economics, as you must distinguish between choices that are made initially (clean PC) and choices that involve switching (pre-installed windows).
Take a look at the front page of Distrowatch. Along the right hand side, 100 distributions are listed. Then, consider windows - you have the latest flavour (possibly in a "home" and "pro" edition) and that's about it as earlier flavours are no longer supported. A choice between two flavours is (all else equal) less time consuming than a choice among hundreds. For your statement to be true, the average user should perceive windows as "yet another OS/distro", which is only the case on a "clean PC" with no existing windows OS installed.
And, moreso: This will only be true in an "all else equal situation" where the user has no experience whatsoever about any of the alternatives, as otherwise (s)he is already biased and will incur switching costs in addition to the pure choice costs.
So, by having windows experience, or a pre-installed version, the costs (in terms of time) involved in switching becomes larger than the costs involved in choosing.
- you happen to know it and it's not worth your time to switch because it works well enough for you
Oh, i know far more about windows than i should really need to, and a lot more than i would like to know, but that's another story. And although it works "well enough" for me it doesn't work "really great" for me, which is what i sometimes require, as i'm not an average user. For that reason i use Debian as well on my personal work machine, but when i'm out among customers i use their default, which is windows.
The "average joe" however, does not share my needs.
- if there was some intrinsic advantage to using Windows
The "intrinsic" advantage comes from switching costs, as well as security. Not "network security" but perceived personal security. Joe's friends use windows, and he needs somebody to turn to if things f**k up, and possibly he uses it at work too. Also, while "they" do sell preconfigured Linux machines, the mainstream outlets don't.
So, the predominant advantage to windows is the reduction of risk. Of course not the real risks, like virii etc, but the perceived personal risks, as in "i really hate to seem stupid and i also hate getting in trouble and not being able to ask my friends, or, as a last resort, the nice and friendly people at customer service".
This is of course not related to the actual inner workings of the OS, but only to the dominant market position. So, in the literal sense of "intrinsic" you are absolutely right.
To minimize these risks you have to spend time, and that time is what you invest in your OS of choice in addition to the currency. To some people, an OS isn't really the most important thing, which is why they would prefer to spend as little time speculating about it as possible - they'd rather worry about what graphics card or sound card they should buy in order to play those games, watch that pr0n, or listen to that music. Oh yeah, and then it would be nice if you could get the box in blue to match their decor.
I hope this cleared up possible misunderstandings.
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Re:No Product Activation
People in Thailand can share their copies with their friends and family. But those of us in the rest of the world cannot. It just makes NO sense. We pay MORE for restrictions!!!
It makes perfect sense. The market determines the price; people are willing to pay $300 for a box of windows, so MS charges $300. Other countries can't afford that much, so they reduce the price to help move the product.
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DistroWatchFor those curious about what packages that are included, try the DistroWatch page on SkoleLinux.
Atleast that site hasn't been Slashdotted, and is sure to load quickly.
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Re:Actually, it's obvious why they're getting bigg
It's really not fair to gripe that a box can't handle a modern distro, even though it handles Win98/NT fine. We expect more from our operating systems today than we did six years ago.
Now, when somebody complains that Linux runs like a gimpy dog on a machine that can handle Windows XP easily, then I get a little nervous. Which people are doing. So I guess I am a little nervous.
But there are distros which are designed with an eye towards light fluffiness. Take Damn Small Linux, for example. A fully functional desktop on a 50MB ISO, and it's bootable, so it's easy to experiment with it.
Things like OpenOffice, Mozilla, KDE, GNOME, and Evolution do feel bloated and unresponsive on older machines, but I've never used XP on an equivalent machine to get a good basis for comparison. I do agree with the author, that a lot of fat needs trimming from modern distros. But how to go about it? -
Linux Desktop is what you make of it !
Make it as fat as you want.
Make it as skinny as you want.
What sort of stupid generalization is this?
Do the 3 main distro dictates the standard?
My desktop is not Bob's desktop (running everything under the Sun) is not Kevin's Desktop (running pekwm and a few X-apps) is not Amanda (running only the console)
Linux is about choice and here is your choice!
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OpenBSD
According to this www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=openbs
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I agree
I agree with you. Slackware Linux is user-friendly. I haven't used Gentoo Linux so I can't say anything about it but I have installed FreeBSD and is definitively user-friendly. According to this www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=openbs
d XFree86 4.4.0 is on OpenBSD 3.5. I'm not using OpenBSD 3.5, so I might be wrong. I have used XFree86 4.4.0 on Slackware Linux and it was OK. I hope they include XFree 4.4.0 on FreeBSD. Once again, isn't the GPL a problem? -
Re:I wonder what Richard Dawes thinks...
Connectiva is in the top 100 - it's at number 47 at the moment. You can find more page hit stats over various time spans here.
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I like itI like the way they package things - one cd full of goodies (KDE 3.2.2, GNOME 2.6) and one rescue (live) cd for all releases (since 4.8 at least).
BTW - FreeBSD seems to be included on distrowatch now (good thing!) and there is even a nice review there of the 5.x branch. There are even some nice tips included in the review
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My quick list
Easy: Knoppix.
There are of course a million and one derivatives (Debian has 82, Fedora/RH has 63, etc.) which are less or more newbie friendly than the base distro.
Normal: Fedora, Mandrake, or SuSE.
Hard: Debian, (FreeBSD), Gentoo, or Slackware.
Brutal: LFS, (OpenBSD).
I would recommend Knoppix but not installing it. If you want Debian, install Debian. Things will go smoother for you. In fact, I'd avoid all derivatives for the simple fact that you'll get more support that way.
Everything depends on the user, of course, but for the vast majority of new users suggesting they start with a 'hard' distro is sheer idiocy. -
Mandrake & DistroWatchFor a lot of infomation on different distros, you can't beat distrowatch.com.
Everyone has their opinion on the best distro. However, if your main goals are easy, stable, cheap, complete, MadrakeLinux is your choice. Ohter people will say other distros. Often I think their reasons are that everyone's goals should be speed, congiruablitiy, community-led, 1 CD install, etc. instead of easy, stable, cheap, complete. Pick the distro for your goals.
- Gentoo: fast, configurable, community-based
- Debian: stable, community-based
- Knoppix: 1 CD install.
- Fedora: cutting (bleeding) edge
- etc.
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Re:Depends on your interpretation of "pirated"
That's not piracy.
It absolutely is. You are a pirate of the high seas! You are depriving school children of their milk (through the Gates foundation). You are an evil, evil, thief!
Microsoft says you can't do it, you are stealing. Just as you can't buy a pc without an operating system, even though you are going to re-image it through your corporate licensed image. But I'm putting a new image...yeah, but you still have to pay twice. Don't like it? Take it to Congress!
And be prepared to put the Congresspeople in Microsoft's pocket against the ones in yours.
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Re:Depends on your interpretation of "pirated"
That's not piracy.
It absolutely is. You are a pirate of the high seas! You are depriving school children of their milk (through the Gates foundation). You are an evil, evil, thief!
Microsoft says you can't do it, you are stealing. Just as you can't buy a pc without an operating system, even though you are going to re-image it through your corporate licensed image. But I'm putting a new image...yeah, but you still have to pay twice. Don't like it? Take it to Congress!
And be prepared to put the Congresspeople in Microsoft's pocket against the ones in yours.
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Re:Depends on your interpretation of "pirated"
That's not piracy.
It absolutely is. You are a pirate of the high seas! You are depriving school children of their milk (through the Gates foundation). You are an evil, evil, thief!
Microsoft says you can't do it, you are stealing. Just as you can't buy a pc without an operating system, even though you are going to re-image it through your corporate licensed image. But I'm putting a new image...yeah, but you still have to pay twice. Don't like it? Take it to Congress!
And be prepared to put the Congresspeople in Microsoft's pocket against the ones in yours.
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Re:Thier trying to chain people to windows... 'http://mac.com'?
Hmm. Maybe Apple ? Because, you know, there is no company called 'Mac' that creates operating systems, or applications. mac.com is a portal for
.Mac.And you can't really list a website for Linux, short of kernel.org. Maybe DistroWatch.
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Re:Obscure version numbering?
Yawn...
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Re:we use a snap server at my work