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Then, perhaps, caps as per this thread. Cap their wages, whomever is at fault, rather than just skimming a static amount or percent. Or in the case of a corporation, cap profits.

It's, what, day 40 of the leak? 25,000 barrels a day * $4,300 a barrel * 40 days of leaking = $4.3 billion.

Considering that they made over that in the last three months I'd say that much is a decent start to making them feel something for this god damn mess.

oh yea and he really knows what is what
the dick head stands by arcane copyright laws and at the same time murdoch himself steals photographers images & refuses to pay the guy
(as in the photographer who took the great shots of the volcano in iceland)
http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/scitech/2010/03/21/volcano-erupts-iceland/?slide=29#slide=1

http://www.p2pnet.net/story/39219
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/photographer-claims-fox-news-stole-his-volcano-pics_1141322

he is a liar and a arsehole and needs to be removed from his monopolizing business

Not that police listen to that or get around that, but you wouldn't know because since you're white it doesn't happen to you. For the rest of us, it does happen.

Here's one, on Fox, from before the law was passed.

Arizona Police Routinely Asking for Proof of Citizenship How many Canadians do you think they asked? I'd say, oh, 'round about zero.

Here's another from before the law was passed.

Truck driver forced to show birth certificate claims racial-profiling This guy, born in the US, was arrested and had to have his wife bring in his birth certificate to get out of jail.

Here's one for a guy who was almost deported even though he is a naturally born US citizen. I don't know where they'd deport him to. He was locked up for 3 days even after he showed his birth certificateDeportation Nightmare: Eduardo Caraballo, US Citizen Born In Puerto Rico, Detained As Illegal Immigrant

Maybe you haven’t looked either.

And yes, I deliberately found a story on Fox News just to irritate you. At least Fox News is openly biased, unlike the source that you cited which hides its bias by pretending it’s just looking for truth.

Kinda like a Republican running on a "family values" platform, only to resign because he had an extramarital affair with a staffer?

Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo said the incident was a single act by a sole individual, who appeared to be targeting the federal building. He refused to classify it as terrorism.

"I call it a cowardly, criminal act and there was no excuse for it," Acevedo said at a news conference.

Oh. I guess it's only a "criminal act" when non-Muslim people do it. I don't guess we'll be passing any absurd, reactionary anti-teabagger legislation either...

Funny, I didn't see any conservatives ready to proclaim Bush dictator for life. The same can't be said for liberals and Obama though. Apparently, liberals and leftists are only for allowing votes so long as the votes go their way.

http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/05/17/woody-allen-president-obama-dictator/

The problem is not the 25% hardcore dipshits who will always lean this way.

You're a bit off on the percentages there buddy.

About 54% of the 973 polled Britons agreed with the view: "Evolutionary theories should be taught in science lessons in schools together with other possible perspectives, such as intelligent design and creationism."

In the US, of 991 adults responding to the survey, which was organised by the British Council, 51% agreed that evolution should be on the curriculum alongside other theories, like intelligent design.

- Guardian

It seems MOST people would prefer a bible-dictated curriculum.

Even FoxNews agrees:

For instance, about 38 percent of Americans would prefer that creationism be taught instead of evolution, according to a 2005 poll by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.

The police receive a complaint from Apple. It was sent to the department whose specific function was to handle a complaint like Apple's. Their job is to investigate or do you think that Apple deserves less protection than anyone else? Unlike complaints where the police may have to sort out the story, they have a lot of the evidence because it was on the web. So they follow up, file their search warrants, and do their job.

In other words, there is much more police time and investigation over a stupid cell phone then there ever is on a missing child case.

How much time did the police spend in the stolen property/possible extortion case? The raid took maybe a day. Again you are advocating that the police spend no time at all when it is all likely that a crime has happened.

Are you getting it? This cell phone thing is being treated like some huge crime when it in fact is really a small time ... nothing. Get it? It would be like if someone got a hold of KFC's secret recipe and published it and there was this huge police investigation and warrants and news attention...

Do you get it that a large police force has division of labor and specialists right? Patrolmen handle traffic. Homicide detectives investigate homicides. Stolen Property deals with stolen property. If there wasn't a high-tech trade secrets division (which is appropriate division given where Apple is located), stolen property would have handled it.

The whole flaw in your diatribe is that you're assuming that some poor lost child didn't get all the police attention because Apple filed a compliant is laughable. Normally the stolen property division or whatever wouldn't have given a missing child much attention. Because that's what the Missing Child division does.

As for the KFC secret recipe, do you remember history? A Coca-Cola employee tried to sell Pepsi the formula for a new Coca-Cola product. Pepsi told Coca-Cola who called the FBI.

How would you feel if someone stole something your car and the police were too busy because a child went missing and your case is small time? You would complain because you have rights. Just because you think the police should not be involved doesn't mean that Apple doesn't have any more or less rights than you.

I've heard rumors that that's going to, in fact, happen. I hate to quote Fox News, but here you go:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/05/14/facebook-ban-farmville/

They have a new story in which they congratulate themselves over getting Jimbo to act on their behest. Jimbo basically admits he planned this as PR stunt to remove the pressure from him: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-May/057896.html Mike Godwin seems to agree to that strategy: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-May/057936.html

Well, since iPads don't use IBM hard drives, pixie dust won't help.

Unless you think Jobs is actually growing iPads, in which case pixie dust might work there, too. Or not...

IAA(non-certified)PE, although I don't work for any of the companies in question.

Although drilling is a cowboy science, there are a few concepts to it that are not immediately obvious and help explain what they're doing. I'd like to define the problem a little bit better, which may actually lead to someone finding a better answer.

The problem that they're facing is that there is a pipe placed in a hole down many thousand feet into an oil reservoir, most likely at the edge of a salt dome. The reservoir is at very high pressure (which is common in the GoM and one of the benifits of drilling here), and effectively we have an uncapped fire hydrant spewing high pressure fluid into the ocean, which floats up and producing the lovely oil sheen. As you'll notice, all attacks follow this vein... capping the end of a wildly spewing fire hydrant. My personal opinion isn't really relevant, but hey, they've got to show they're trying all options.

During drilling we control well pressures during drilling with heavy mud fluids, which provide counter-pressure and keep this problem in check. From a discussion on a plane yesterday with someone in well completions, they had set a plug in the drilling fluid (probably a brine at this point, replacing the mud) but may not have tested it well enough, and enough gas escaped from below the plug to displace the drilling fluid with a large bubble of gas. The low density of the gas created an unstable pressure system, and allowed the pressure below to burst through the plug and cause a kick, sinking the rig. Note that rigs tend to drill many wells at the same location now, spreading them out using directional drilling but not actually moving the rig. When we drill a well and a production platform is not yet in place, we temporarily cap the well... using the same process that didn't go so great this time. So when the drilling platform sank, any already drilled and capped wells were likely damaged as well. These are likely easier to shut off due to properly operating subsurface safety valves being in place (required in the GoM), and possibly BoP stacks being in place still as well (not likely but maybe? usually these are removed after drilling).

So here we are, with the BoPs not working on this one well, and it's gushing oil. In most situations we drill a relief well, because when we intersect the gushing well, our wellbore is full of drilling mud, and we can kill the flow by using extra-heavy mud weighs to stifle flow right at the source. This is, in my opinion, the best and most complete option. The problem to this method is that it takes days/weeks, not hours/days, and we want an "hours/days" solution. Hence the multi-million-dollar "cork" they are trying to place on top of this fire hydrant. I see estimates of 3 months in the news for the relief well being effective, and I think that's a bit high but reasonable. "Off the cuff" (do not use this as a real estimate) I like to guess about 500 feet of drilling a day, and this well is 13,000 feet, but that's certainly much too optimistic in this case.

Here is a link to an event similar to this one near Australia

Out of curiosity, do you see "noose incidents", cross burnings, and so on as a form of hate speech or something else? I see how you could see them as having nothing to do with speech but there's an argument that they are speech too, but they are nonetheless illegal.

eg. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301046,00.html

Does anyone know what the guy in the blue shirt is for? http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/scitech/2009/10/22/nasas-secret-space-plane-nears-maiden-voyage?slide=13

I ain't looking to get rich off of a class action lawsuit, but the recent settlements have not only not been any sort of punishment, they have actually been very beneficial to the ones breaking the laws.

Case in point, the Sony Rootkit debacle.
http://news.cnet.com/Sony-settles-rootkit-class-action-lawsuit/2100-1002_3-6012173.html

Oh Boy! $7.50 coupon and the ability to download one album once.

How in the hell is that a punishment for them?

Then how about the big class action lawsuit regarding price fixing CD's.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115443,00.html

Yes, they gave out checks for $13.86 , but they never admitted guilt, and the price of CD's never went down. The price fixing is still going strong.

Class action lawsuits no longer provide a reasonable threat against anti-consumer practices. You pinhead.

Actually, yes, there are a lot of people that find any depiction of nudity erotic and/or inappropriate. They might not be a huge percentage, but they often have the loudest voices.

And, yes, there are tons of people who complain when Michaelangelo's David tours America. The Simpson's even parodied that one in the 90's.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/20/website-warns-south-park-creators-face-retribution-depicting-muhammad/?test=latestnews

the sole point of complete disagreement is his vision, or lack thereof, for NASA. I've heard the arguments that the "new" NASA will somehow develop all the necessary interplanetary exploration technologies instead of wasting money returning to the moon

Besides returning to the moon part of Obama's plan is to go to Mars. Bush wanted the same thing.

It just seems like yet another step in the long, slow decline of our space program since the Challenger accident.

As far as I'm concerned the space program was declining when the first Space Shuttle was delivered.

That is if the purpose of the space program is to explore space. However NASA has done quite a bit of research of earth itself.

Falcon

Rupert's company knows about robots.txt. See, they allow everything.

And Foxnews is even kind enough to provide sitemaps targeted at facilitating Google

Rupert's mantra should probably be listen to what I say, (pay no attention to what I do)

So just because one is a Christine does not mean that one blindly follows a book or preacher or whatever - we are allowed to disagree on the ground of emperical evidence and other finding without being labelled as religous nutjobs.

It is very hard to take that statement seriously. (assuming you meant Christian. I know plenty of smart, level-headed Christines)
Scientific method (hypothesis, prediction, evidence, tests, peer-review....etc) is at odds with typical religious views.

Although, it depends on which particular sect of Christianity you subscribe to:
The "Buddhist" approach: Jesus was a good guy with good ideas, we should try to be like him.
Or
The "Savior" approach: Son of god, virgin birth, water into wine, walking on water, the resurrection.

Only one of the above is supported by scientific method.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing wrong with people believing whatever the hell they want to. The problem I have is when those views hold the rest of us back.
Like Creationism in science class, the battle against stem cell research, the pope telling Stephen Hawking not to investigate the big bang, the prosecution of Galileo (etc, etc, etc.......).

In that case, you might be interested in this article in which a Fox News reporter talks to one of the Wikileaks editors associated with the release of this video. That editor states that it appears that one of the people killed in the video was carrying an AK-47 while another was carrying an RPG, even though Wikileaks neglected to include this in their commentary on the video.

I know, I know, this is Slashdot, and dishing on Fox News is the most effective form of karma-whoring. Have at it, folks. Nevertheless, the substance of the article calls into question the veracity of (and the motives behind) the video and commentary.

Shocked at the difference between them...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/04/05/iraq.photographers.killed/index.html?hpt=T2

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/05/video-appears-forces-firing-unarmed-suspects-baghdad/om/

Go figure, there's a brief description here

They have. Headline article on www.foxnews.com:

Army Accused of 'Video Game' Killings

Investigative organization WikiLeaks releases video it says shows U.S. forces in Baghdad firing on and killing as many as 25 civilians in Baghdad, including two journalists.

Becareful what you wish for. Current healine on FOX NEWS: 'Army accused of VIDEO GAME Killings' http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/05/video-appears-forces-firing-unarmed-suspects-baghdad/

Notice how I got labeled flamebait? way too many nanny government lovers here on /. for my taste. do you REALLY want the government to dictate the foods you eat, the drinks you consume, etc etc? Because its coming, courtesy of fat taxes and sweet taxes.

Remember freedom includes the ability to choose how to live. if the only choices you have are to eat and drink what you are told or go bankrupt, is that really a choice? Remember folks, to nanny government types there is NO such thing as too much control, because ultimately they think you are too stupid to take care of yourself so they have to punish you like a child to make you behave. Of course the fact that it gives them more money to loot and pass off to their masters...errr... campaign contributors, is just a nice bonus.

So next time someone is picking on the smokers, or the fatties, or any other marginal group, maybe you better think about this: which groups could I be stuffed into?

I read that the 'kill switch' was removed from the bill a few weeks ago... Even Fox says it was.

Most voters don't know what rule of law is either. Look how many of them think the Constitution is just a piece of paper, and therefore Parliament can do whatever it wants.

The Tea Partiers seem to be stirring up some interest. If they ever discover the real cause of their tax burden and the reality of effective commercial tax rates, I'm afraid their loving relationship with the GOP and it's corporate outlets will quickly deteriorate.

Could be worse, could be Peter Gaylord. It doesn't surprise me though, as I've met a few kids growing up where I thought "WTF were their parents thinking?". For example there was a girl in my class whose parents named her Sandy Bush and her brother's name was Harold (which of course got shortened to Harry).

At least my GF and I have excuses for our names, my mom went into labor while watching Thunderball in the theater so I got named Sean, while my GF's mom went into labor in the middle of a Brenda Lee concert and so got named Brenda. Cool thing was she got a card every year until she was 18 from Brenda Lee.

But considering the fact that we have become such money whores that girls sell their virginity to the highest bidder, why should we be even surprised that some douche is willing to sell his kid's names? At least he'll get reelected if he pulls it off, and maybe fiber to the home.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/03/25/teachers-leave-boy-stranded-tree-school-policy/

That is a story about a 5 year old being stranded in a tree. The teachers "watched from afar" because of a school policy. A passerby stopped to help, and now faces possible legal action.

An inaccurate story, as it turns out. It didn't happen that way at all.

As usual, Fox is a source of negative information.

Anyway, isn't it kind of odd to claim that the neglect of a child (which, I repeat, did not actually occur) means the promotion of the "Nanny state"? Aren't nannies supposed to be protecting children, not neglecting them? But I guess that would require some thought about just what a "Nanny state" means, and it's clearly not a phrase meant to provoke thought; it's just a right-wing shibboleth.

The purpose of schools should be to teach students to live in a democratic society, and that means teaching critical thinking and showing students controversial Web sites, says Craig Cunningham, a professor at National-Louis University.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/03/25/teachers-leave-boy-stranded-tree-school-policy/

That is a story about a 5 year old being stranded in a tree. The teachers "watched from afar" because of a school policy. A passerby stopped to help, and now faces possible legal action. That example happens to from the UK, but there is plenty of the same sort of thing going on in the US. We are being conditioned to not to do anything without the approval and assistance of the government.

The Nanny state would not like it if people could think critically all on their own without the government there to make sure they don't hurt themselves.

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Good luck.

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Yahoo news reporting the new bill will save billions of dollars.

That's according to the preliminary findings of the Congressional Budget Office. Which was an okay source when it was reporting that the old bill would be more expensive.

Again, Fox can't seem to bear the weight of the truth.

This is much more likely... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478024,00.html (yeah, it's fox, but includes some relevant links)

Can you explain any legitimate accidental reason whatsoever that there would be drugs or illegal weapons in the premises of your vehicle?

• A policeman planted them
• A former passenger forgot them in the glove compartment
• Another driver in front of you (or on a bridge) threw a baggie out of his window, and as good luck would have it, it landed in your car via the sunroof
• Alternatively, the baggy landed on the street, burst, and some of the powder stuck to your tyres.
• You had bought the car off a police auction of seized property, and some well hidden ware has been left from previous owner
• That water bottle you keep with you has last been refilled in a city with poor water treatment, and where traces from the piss of drug users are still left
• Those bills in your wallet have at some point in time been handled by cocain dealers, who left trace amounts on them

Yeah, and eating silver will turn your skin blue. Not like Avatar blue, but pretty close.

Chavez is a dictator

Chavez is not a dictator. He was legitimately and overwhelmingly elected in a fair election, unlike George W Bush (for example).

Read more news (and history) then. Hitler and Mussolini were elected too, you know. Chavez has shut down opposition newspapers, thrown political opponents into jail, supported the leftist-cum-terrorist operations of FARC in Columbia, is best buds with the Castro brothers, etc. All of which adds up to me as dictator-like behavior. He first came to notice after a failed coup attempt in 1992 - and when he did come to power, became one of the leaders of the OPEC cartel, reducing production to boost oil prices.

See http://latinamericanhistory.about.com/od/presidentsofsouthamerica/p/09HChavez.htm - a generally sympathetic view of him as a leftist reformer, but his dictatorial aspirations are clear.

Plus, he's just a lying SOS and enemy of the US, just on general principles (or lack thereof). Most recently, he accused US of being responsible for the Haiti earthquake ( http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583588,00.html ) using some magical new weapon no one else has heard of. Evidence of the paranoid style and demonization of some "enemy" which is page one of the dictator's handbook.\p>

Depending on A/S/L up to $3.7 million according to Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480037,00.html

Okay, then you move to Canada, and don't come back when you have to wait years for that procedure you need.

What evidence do you have that it is better than anecdotal evidence and bias "surveys" that don't include the wait times and ignores the people coming to the US to get the care they need?

What evidence is there that the system in the US is broken at all? Does Canada border a third world nation, taking in Millions of illegal aliens a year?

Of course you ignore such, because even mentioning the invasion from the south is "racist" (never mind that it is true).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/12/canadas-health-informs-health-care-debate/

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/06/canadian.health.care.system/

http://www.lonelyconservative.com/2009/12/27/mark-steyn-obamacare-will-be-even-worse-than-europe-and-canada/

See, I can pull articles that support my position too. But if Canada is so much better than the US, why don't you see people crossing into Canada for health care, like you see people in Canada doing to the US.

This includes having Canada pay US to take some of its people into OUR hospitals!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1115892/

What's been missing from the coverage the David Patterson press conferences has been the shrewd, insightful experience and reportage from the OMG ponies! perspective.

Man, how on earth did they manage to exclude the cable news networks?

(PS I honestly can't tell if you were making that same point only more subtly, or if you were honestly implying bloggers had less credibility than "real news.")

How is this informative? Insightful?

Three Spaniards arrested in alleged global hacking scheme
Accused Masterminds of World's Largest Computer Virus Network Arrested

I don't particularly think the comment above was funny, but at least I wouldn't be so confused if that's why it was modded up.

William Gray thinks it's likely that he lost his funding because of it. Harrison Schmitt says that people have lost their funding because of it and it's causing people to stop being willing to oppose it.

"... radical feminist rant."

There is a lot more to the stories of the head of GoDaddy supporting violence and being involved with models. I just didn't have the time to add to what I already wrote.

For example: GoDaddy Super Bowl Ad Pulled After One Run. Quote: "The decision was prompted by NFL officials complaining to Fox..."

The image of the NFL being radical feminist makes me laugh.

I believe the vast majority of the data they want to base their theories on doesn't pass muster for scientific research because they are now starting to admit that it doesn't and are asking for a do over. link BTW if they want us to believe they need to release the code as well. It is going to be pretty hard to sell the idea that programmers are infallible on /.

Your link seems to be broken.

Sorry,I read the linked page and I couldn't find where they were addressing the points made by BadAnalogyGuy. How about this if anthropgenic CO2 is responsible for significant global warming, then why after the CO2 levels have still been rising, there has been No Significant Global Warming for 15 years?

Non sense. I don't believe in gods at all. Period. I believe the climate is changing as it has done since this planet first formed. Are you denying that the climate has always been in flux? I believe that man has probably had a very minor effect on the earth's temperature in the order of less than one degree and it won't ever bee more than one degree. I believe that because the the science around CO2 trapping heat is pretty solid and it says that warming due to this amount of CO2 increase will be on that order. I also believe that sea levels have changed for as long as there has been water on this planet as has snow cover, ice cover, tidal patterns, wind patterns etc. Link

What I don't believe is the the storey that the earth has stayed the exact same for the last 1,000 years as climatologists have told us. Why because those same scientists are now starting to admit that they were wrong. I believe the vast majority of the data they want to base their theories on doesn't pass muster for scientific research because they are now starting to admit that it doesn't and are asking for a do over. link BTW if they want us to believe they need to release the code as well. It is going to be pretty hard to sell the idea that programmers are infallible on /.

I don't believe in the hockey stick because the scientists now admit that the proxy data doesn't match the reality of the last 50 years. But rather than admit that their method may be flawed they are looking for new ways to try and make the data match the theory rather than find a theory that matches the data. link . I believe that William Ockham would have a thought or two on this new theory. From wikipedia this line seems so spot on.The term razor refers to the act of shaving away unnecessary assumptions to get to the simplest explanation. What is simpler that new undiscovered scientific principals are at work or that the methodology is wrong? I also believe in the hockey stick because it has been fraudulently presented.

I also don't believe that the stories of the "end of days" as a result of climate change that climate scientists are schlocking. Why, because they are all so easily proven wrong. I won't even bother making a list because there are so many. Also because they depend on positive feed backs would make the world far to unstable to have lasted in a habbitable for up to this point. Every volcanic eruption would be an extinction event if we were to believe some of he feed back theories being pushed by climate scientists.

If environmentalists want to start making believers of people then they have to change some things about their methods. First stop relating people who question their infallibility to the tobacco industry, oil companies, various religions etc. People who don't have evidence fall back on name calling and insults. Next you need to follow standard accepted scientific methods. That includes providing your raw data. Providing the reasons and methods including formulas of how the data has been manipulated. As well document what are assumptions and what is proven fact. Finally publish and do not scheme to prevent alternative views from being presented.

This post at Faux News (with statute text) actually goes into why the IRS was recently attacked, and is of material concern to you and your question.

If main stream news sources in copious quantities isn't sufficient corroboration for you, call the court and ask.

Not my fault the school administrators are monumentally stupid.

Oh, and dial back the paranoia a notch. It got away from you.

Unfortunately, firefighters *starting* fires is a real problem, just this year...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479843,00.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/03/french-firefighters-admit_n_250133.html