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Late Stage Socialism
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0...
Conspicuous by its absence in much of the mainstream news coverage of Venezuela’s political crisis is the word “socialism.” Yes, every sensible observer agrees that Latin America’s once-richest country, sitting atop the world’s largest proven oil reserves, is an economic basket case, a humanitarian disaster, and a dictatorship whose demise cannot come soon enough.
But socialist? Perish the thought.
Or so goes a line of argument that insists socialism’s good name shouldn’t be tarred by the results of experience. On Venezuela, what you’re likelier to read is that the crisis is the product of corruption, cronyism, populism, authoritarianism, resource-dependency, U.S. sanctions and trickery, even the residues of capitalism itself. Just don’t mention the S-word because, you know, it’s working really well in Denmark.
Curiously, that’s not how the Venezuelan regime’s admirers used to speak of “21st century socialism,” as it was dubbed by Hugo Chávez. The late Venezuelan president, said Britain’s Jeremy Corbyn, “showed us there is a different and a better way of doing things. It’s called socialism, it’s called social justice, and it’s something that Venezuela has made a big step toward.” Noam Chomsky was similarly enthusiastic when he praised Chávez in 2009. “What’s so exciting about at last visiting Venezuela,” the linguist said, is that “I can see how a better world is being created and can speak to the person who’s inspired it.”
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Jihadis twice as likely to be CIA trainees ..
How many of them had training from the CIA at Camp Peary? ref
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Re:What I find unbelievable...
Sorry, replying to myself. I think in fairness we have to note that the USA has meddled in Australian politics in the past.
Again, I don't think this is a motivating factor for the modern Liberal and Labor parties, but still, it needs to be mentioned.
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Re:So what they are saying...
"What about extradition? The US has extradited people from their homes after they cracked US servers so they might struggle to argue that US citizens shouldn't be extradited in similar circumstances".
Yes, that has happened countless times. However, the USA is often very reluctant indeed to reciprocate. Indeed, while very keen on kidnapping foreign heads of state for trial by the ICC, it has formally declared that no American can ever be tried there; and if any American were ever to be brought before the court, he would be rescued by military force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...
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https://www.greenleft.org.au/n...etc., etc. ad nauseam.
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Re:Australia voted... for a kick in the nuts.This is part of a long term global effort by deranged moguls like Rupert Murdoch. Take the quote below:
The Murdoch tabloids’ trademark sensationalist coverage of crime, and accompanying campaigns for draconian law-and-order politics such as harsher sentences and more police powers, has always been in the framework of self-righteous claims to be the voice of victims.
Another trademark of the Murdoch media globally is Islamophobia. From Fox news’ hysterical reaction to President Barack Obama’s Arabic middle name, to the Sydney Daily Telegraph’s current anti-Burka campaign, the Murdoch media has consistently vilified Muslims in the name of protecting Western society from terrorism.
In Australia, not only has Murdoch used his media to campaign for anti-terror laws but, in several cases after such laws have been introduced, authorities used the Murdoch media during prosecutions to spread allegations against defendants in terrorism trials. Such allegations cannot be refuted in open court, or spoken about by the accused, because of secrecy provisions in the anti-terror laws.
https://www.greenleft.org.au/n...
It reads like it was written yesterday, but in fact it's a story from 2011, during a previous successful push to whittle away more civil liberties, not just in Australia, but worldwide.
Until us ordinary people can recognise the war being waged against us by the Murdochs of the world, and discover the courage and weapons to fight them, we will continue to lose those few liberties we have remaining.
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Re:Aus Labor Party is anything but democratic
I don't know why I am wasting my breathe on such an obvious paid shill (or worse still, an Alan Jones follower). Hopefully I can translate the above copypasta for everybody else.
The Craig Thomson case is far from over and it is more than likely that he will prevail in court. Craig Thomson was arrested in NSW by Victorian Police on credit card fraud charges. These charges total a little over $900 AUD and Craig was authorized for up to $50,000 per annum in work-related and incidentals.
Expensive meals refers to the time he met with a journalist over lunch for purely work-related reasons. From memory, the bill was ~$55. The 'prostitutes' he supposedly bought with credit card was misreported after another publication printed 'pornographic movies'. Comically, the original publication also misreported as the movie in question was an R-rated action flick watched in his hotel room while staying for official business. The biggest stretch comes from 'Holidays Interstate'. This actually means he bought a soft-serve icecream to have on camera.
Scot MacDonald was a Liberal MP. As for NSW Labor corruption, at least the party is focused on cleaning it up. Two gone already. Eddie's little empire stretched much further than ALP though, most his mates are Libs. No Liberal Corruption, eh?
Disclosure: I am not an ALP, Liberal or National member. I do not intend to give my first preference vote to any of these parties. I have previously been a Young Liberal.
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US bribes help stop climate action
WikiLeaks reveals US bribes help stop climate action
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Re: EDUCATE THYSELF
Yeah. The CIA hired out some special forces to terminate one of their operators.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/24198Of course, this was the decoy, the original having been decommissioned somewhat earlier, at an inconvenient time to influence the conflict over Pipelineistan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0Z96IIQyVe0I LOVE Operation Treadstone.
Nice how there was no independent forensic examination of the cadaver. But I guess anybody who asks for science here is the moral equivalent of a "birther".
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Bolivia
Bolivia is one of the poorest country in the worlds with a recent history of mineral and oil resources, politics, and how little of the money provides economic wealth to the people of Bolivia. Instead Bolivia has children under the age of 11 going into mines because of their size.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/44181
Bassey is from Nigeria. Both Bolivia, whose radical government hosted the conference, and Nigeria are poor countries that have suffered from the curse of having carbon resources extracted by Western multinationals at the cost of terrible environmental destruction and social dislocation. At Cochabamba, Bolivia's President Evo Morales, said the profit-driven extraction of resources had to end if the world was to avoid catastrophic climate change. For that to happen, the private ownership of resources had to end -- and capitalism with it. This is a hard path for carbon-resource-dependent Third World countries like Bolivia and Nigeria, but is far easier for a rich, developed country like Australia. And the best way to manage the transition away from environmentally destructive mining is for the industry to be in public hands.
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Re:"Allowing Criminals"
Ever hear of the Iran-Contra scandal?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contras
Check out the part on "Human rights controversies".
Yeah, Iran is bad and U.S.A is good. Looks more like the pot calling the kettle black . . .
And the CIA was nice enough to aid Osama Bin Laden.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2001/465/25199
Doesn't that make the U.S.A. a state sponsor of terrorism? What happens to state sponsors of terrorism? When that sponsor is the U.S.A. itself . . . nothing. -
Re:Same thing with people...
Australia isn't any better.
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Right. Another reason to ban firearms.
But here are a bunch of reasons why we should keep them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_prot ests_of_1989
http://www.cnd.org/njmassacre/
http://www.greenleft.org.au/1998/313/21534
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story /0,6903,1136440,00.html (Gas chamber horror in North Korea camps) ... ...
Of course I could go on and on and on and cite every massacre and mass murder on the planet but that's what happens in the end to people who are not armed. -
Re:Bullshit.
First of all, on a per-capita basis the U.S is more oppressive to its citizens then the Chinese government. An American is almost four times as likely to be imprisoned then a Chinese citizen. In fact, the US has more total people in jail then the Chinese, despite the fact that china has almost four times as many people as the US.
Perhaps that's b/c the Chinese government doesn't bother to jail people when they can just "disappear" them instead. The "disappeared" are conveniently not included the statistics you reference. Don't be so foolish, there's no comparison b/t a totalitarian Maoist Communist government and America. -
Re:What Ever Happened?
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/1997/292/292p9.h
t m/ The solution can often be worse than the cure. I believe global warming is real, getting worse and worth worrying about. But care has to be given when deciding upon how we deal with it. I suspect there is no perfect solution, and temperatures will still be climbing long after I'm dead. All I think we can do is reduce our influence on the problem and hope in time that climate change will level off. Failing that we could just paint all the deserts white etc that might work.... -
Re:I agree
http://www.lutins.org/nukes.html (scroll down to the "ships and submarines" section. (yes, it's a green site, that doesn't mean it's not a valid source if the information is true))
http://www.bellona.no/en/international/russia/nuke _industry/co-operation/31750.html (not quite a nuclear accident but close to causing one)
and the reason why that was allowed:
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/1992/52/52p10.htm
I don't care much for the issue but I found it hard to believe there had been *no* accidents in about 50 years of service, especially when I knew it definitely wasn't true for the UK which had an accident in the 60s iirc. -
Re:Where do you get this stuff?I think (and hope) that that spirit is still alive and well in the Australian pysche. If it is, the Australian people - the ones who actually have to live under these stupid laws that - and I quote here (Just ask any aussie) "those stupid blooody pollies $Direction(up|down|over) there in Canberra".
What we do, see, is just ignore the law altogether - we did it with the copyright on videos - there is no "fair use" in the australian copyright laws - timeshifting is illegal. But does anybody pay any attention? No. In fact, we get our public figures - or a certain segment of our public figures pretty much advocating civil disobedience. Back then, it was Simon Townsend who stood up on the ABC and said (and this is a quote) "the law is an ass", during a show he had for a season or two Friday nights (because most Doctor Who stories around the time were four chapters which took up Monday to Thursday), when he gave this rather impassioned speech about copyright laws in Australia and how it was illegal to tape show for watching later. He was practically exhorting us to go out and breach these (quote) "foolish" laws. Those of you who don't remember Simon, he was a bit like Mr Rogers, only with more giggling. There was also a bloodhound involved.
With a comment from an earlier poster about the passing of Australia's version of the new anti-terror and sedition laws in mind, there was recently a show put together by Andrew Denton and Wendy Harmer, chock-full and brimming over with fine black Australian satire, sedition and treason. Deliberately so, as the show was intended as a protest against the new laws.
Here's an interesting bunch of comments to a story in the Sydney Morning Herald. See how many people are ready to put up their hands and say "Here we are, breaking the law. Whatcha gunna do?"
Remember the filtering measures that are already supposed to be in place, courtesy of Senator Richard Alston? What happened to them?
And finally, there's those rabble-rousing commie lefties right where they always have been - there at the helm of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Believe it or not, it was our very own comrade Rampaging Roy Slaven who gave this year's post-prandial wallopping at that glittering industry shindig, the annual Andrew Ollie Media Lecture. Towards the end of his speech - it's a cracking good one too, go and have a read of it, it's really long - he pointed out that...ABC TV has...managed to survive with its current affairs programs intact, loathed by Labor and Coalition alike, as it should be. And as it should be, it still strives to put forward an alternative view. So that when the commercial media is dictated to by myopic intrusive ownership and ill-informed populism, is forced through thoughtless need to make irresponsible programs that lack both style and substance, caresses inflammatory and cheap, nasty demagoguery that seeks to marginalize the already marginalized, that describes the world in simple terms, provides simple solutions to complex problems and is purely a servant to fiscal outcomes, then the ABC will always seem to aggravate, annoy and frustrate and it's precisely when the ABC is doing this that it is serving its charter"
And the head of the ABC agreed with him! Said that the ABC's job was to cause discomfort to the comfortable, or some such seditious nonsense. There's already
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Re:Don't worry about contradictions...
Ralph Nadar:
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/501/501p13b. htm
http://www.issues2000.org/Ralph_Nader_China.htm
He advocated trade restrictions with China in the name of human rights, and free trade with Cuba in the name of human rights. Millions of people voted for him the first time he ran. And hundreds of thousands voted for him in the last election.
Also, the search isn't working properly on the website, but I have personally spoken with a representative of International Answer, and they support lifting all sactions against Cuba, and restricting trade with China due to human rights concerns. Here is there website:
http://www.internationalanswer.org/
International Answer recently got a group of 300,000 to protest at the White House, so I can only assume many hundreds of thousands, if not millions who support their policies.
Also read the articles on http://www.socialismtoday.org/ ... Trade with China is only covered as something that is bad, or at least should be done with great caution. Any restrictions with Cuba are presented as absolutly evil.
Plus, I have first hand knowledge. About half the people I know who want to end trade restrictions with Cuba, want to put trade restrictions on China.
I can say with absolute certainly, that millions of people think that U.S. shouldn't trade with China, but should trade with Cuba. In fact, that is pretty much the typical belief amoung self proclaimed progressives in the U.S.. Look at the posts on Slashdot.
But enough of this arguement... You still haven't answered my question. Why do "politically correct" people believe that free trade with China is bad, but that free trade with Cuba is good. I can see being against both (which I suspect is your position, but you seem to be avoiding saying your positon). And I can see being for both (which I am for). -
Re:have your cake and eat it too?
specific examples
four cases
Police and prosecutors blocked all attempts at DNA testing while Johnson was alive
prosecutors blocked dna testing of hair
prosecutors have successfully blocked the testing of DNA before an execution and then fought posthumous tests just as vigorously.
Why did the DA stop new DNA tests ?
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A lack of corporate conscience
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Re:riches wont do you any good
Big crime happens all the time by power structures like governments, organized religions, corporations, etc. The tools for fighting these nasties don't involve tights. They involve activism, raising awareness, getting others involved in politics, and other things that don't look real cool in graphic novels.
Ahem - some times real-life activism can look good in graphic novels.
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Re:Fuck israel
I fail to see what about the previous AC's posts is antisememitic.
Its not all the Israelis are Jews, although I'm sure they would greatly prefer if that were the case.
They are among the worst violators of human rights in our day and age. And by they I don't mean the Palestinians and their fairly routine suicide bombings. Whilst I do not condone terrorism in any way, shape or form, I can understand why such barbarism continues in the Middle-East today.
The Israelis have been conducting American sanctioned terrorist acts since their very inception.
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Re:Great formats and programs, but balance problem
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
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Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your contribution and support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs a fortune to terrorise a whole region.
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We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers and sniper nests. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but yet have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower guard division.We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.
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Re:Political, rather then merit-based alignment
Cuba - under a strict embargo and with a superpower in direct opposition, has been doing far better than many other Carribian states - look at Haiti, for example. Heck, Cuba's lifespan is almost as long as that of the US. What a horrible example. There are plenty of examples of socialist collapse out there, but Cuba's a rather poor example
The current regime would never have survived its initial forray into communism without Soviet patronage and brutal repression (which continues to this day.. that's "better"?). And they're "thriving" now because of other countries (in Europe and elsewhere) that enjoy having Cuba as a tropical destination, and are willing to overlook the attrocious human rights situation there. Hard to imagine a better example than a place that's willing to imprison and even execute people for trying to leave. "Strong-man" run socialism sure is wonderful! Just like Chavez says it is!
the long term strikers / the thuggish election tactics
I'm blaming all sides involved on this sort of thing. That general level of chaos, protest, violence, and industry-wrecking-to-make-a-point is exactly the sort of self-inflicted wounds I mentioned earlier.
[the pretension ... brand new, properly tuned form of Socialism that will magically bring prosperity ...]
Please quote Chavez talking about such a thing. He supports socialism - but, heck, even Spain is under a socialist government. What's the big deal?
Let's see... from a progressive blogger's coverage of a recent Chavez appearance in Brazil: "Everyday I become more convinced, there is no doubt in my mind, and as many intellectuals have said, that it is necessary to transcend capitalism. But capitalism can't be transcended from within capitalism itself, but through socialism, true socialism..."
Or, from no less of a socialist voice than the UK's Socialist Worker Online, "Chavez gets more radical every year ... He was always sympathetic to the left, but in the last couple of years he's started to make references to Marx and Trotsky ... One of the reasons that Chavez did so well in the referendum is that he gave citizenship to two million people in Venezuela. These people were economic migrants from across Latin America..."
Or, take a second to read a well-known German liberal's complaints about Chavez essentially giving socialism a bad name.
Or, maybe another article quoting him on his contention that only socialism (vs. a market economy) can improve his country's circumstances.
Until then, it's not our responsibility - if we want to support democracy, we need to accept that Venezuela's poor are sticking up for this guy.
But we (and every open, democratic, non-corrupt culture) have a very, very strong interest in this. They're the #5 oil exporter in the world, they're striking deals with China, Iran, etc., and that truly matters if you care about the nature of totalitarian regimes and those that make money off of them. -
Just a couple of reminders about the U.N.
1. Members were caught trading in sexual slaves. It was reported on by many mainstream media outlets, including newspapers and major networks. Go to http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8
& q=united+nations&btnG=Search+News for a pretty good compilation of the various articles reporting on these sandals. 2. Kurt Waldheim was elected Secretary-General of the UN, despite the fact that he was a known war criminal (A Nazi Lieutenant). http://www.fas.org/sgp/clinton/warcrime.html and http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/1995/191/191p21.h tm 3. A good chunk of our natinal parks have been GIVEN to the UN as collateral if we default on our debts. They intend to give them more. If you examine a map of what percentage of the U.S. the U.N. wants to get its hands on within 10 years, it takes up over somewhere in the area of 90%. Check out http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread45831/pg 1 and http://www.store.yahoo.com/infowars-shop/amdesbyde s.html You can also download the video on emule ed2k:7Cfile7CAmerica20Destroyed20By20Design20Plz20 Shareavi7C7306690567C93E0EE8D68CBE6221E90D20284B4A 9867ChTWFQ3T6MQZLW2BHYJ2TIZYY6J2G2SX5Q7C The author has given his permission for people to share this movie on the internet. There are plenty of other reasons to oppose any expansion of the UN's influence in America, but I'm tired and looking for refernces to back my claims has become a chore. Investigate and enjoy. -
Re:Small L liberals
CEC if Labor, or even the Greens now, isn't quite left enough for you
According to Green Left Weekly, CEC are anything BUT left-wing. They have called environmentalists "terrorists", they gave preferences to One Nation and oppose Aboriginal land rights.
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Help censor the Amercian press
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
If you are an US student we are recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
We can stifle democratic thought and criticism of Israeli fascist oppression -But only with your help!
Free housing:In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are a US citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes along the Med, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs $$$$$$s to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Vacancies available:We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer today.If anybody criticises you, call them anti-Semitic.
It worked for the Liberty.
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Help censor the Amercian press
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
If you are an US student we are recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
We can stifle democratic thought and criticism of Israeli fascist oppression -But only with your help!
Free housing:In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are a US citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes along the Med, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs $$$$$$s to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Vacancies available:We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer today.If anybody criticises you, call them anti-Semitic.
It worked for the Liberty.
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Help censor the American media
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
If you are an American student we are recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
We can stifle democratic thought and criticism of Israeli fascist oppression -But only with your help!
Free housing:
In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes along the Med, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs $$$$$$s to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Vacancies available:We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.
Do it today.If anybody criticises you, just point a finger an call them anti-Semite.
It worked for the Liberty. -
Help censor the American press
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
If you are an American student we are recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
We can stifle democratic thought and criticism of Israeli fascist oppression -But only with your help!
Free housing:
In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes along the Med, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs $$$$$$s to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Vacancies available:We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.
Do it today.If anybody criticises you, just point a finger an call them anti-Semite.
It worked for the Liberty. -
Help censor the American press
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
If you are at an American University we are recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
We can stifle democratic thought and criticism of Israeli fascist oppression -But only with your help!
Free housing:In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes and view of the Med, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs $$$$$$s to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Give a man a gun and he can kill a Palestinian child. Give him a helicopter and he can kill them all.
Part-time vacancies available:We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower division.We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.If anybody criticises you,point a finger and call them anti-Semite,it worked for the Liberty. -
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Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes and view of the Med, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs $$$$$$s to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Give a man a gun and he can kill a Palestinian child. Give him a helicopter and he can kill them all.
Part-time vacancies available:We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower division.
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Free housing:In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes and view of the Med, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs $$$$$$s to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Give a man a gun and he can kill a Palestinian child. Give him a helicopter and he can kill them all.
Part-time vacancies available:We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower division.
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If you are at an American University we are recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
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Free housing:In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes and view of the Med, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs $$$$$$s to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Give a man a gun and he can kill a Palestinian child. Give him a helicopter and he can kill them all.
Part-time vacancies available:We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.
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If you are at an American University we are recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students and lecturers on behalf of the Israeli government.
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Free housing:In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes with a view of the Mediterranean, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs $$$$$$s to terrorise a whole region.
Our military can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Give a man a gun and he can kill a Palestinian child. Give him a helicopter and he can kill them all.
Part-time vacancies available:We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but have a keen eye with a sniper scope you are the ideal candidate for our watchtower division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.
Do it today.If anybody criticises you, just point a finger an call them anti-Semite.
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help censor the american media
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
If you are at an American University we are recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
We can stifle democratic thought and criticism of Israeli fascist oppression -But only with your help!
Free housing:In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes with a view of the Mediterranean, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs $$$$$$s to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Give a man a gun and he can kill a Palestinian child. Give him a helicopter and he can kill them all.
Part-time vacancies available:We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.
Do it today.If anybody criticises you, just point a finger an call them anti-Semite.
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help censor the american public
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
If you are at an American University we are currently recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
We can actively stifle democratic thought and criticism of Israeli fascist oppression -But only with your help!
Free housing:In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your residential developments on occupied land with experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes with a view of the Mediterranean, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated yearly by American taxpayers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs a fortune to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Give a man a gun and he can kill a Palestinian child. Give him a helicopter and he can kill them all.
Part-time vacancies available:
We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers and sniper nests. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but yet have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower guard division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.
Do it today.If anybody criticises you, just point a finger an call them anti-Semite.
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help censor the american press
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
If you are at an American University we are currently recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
We can actively stifle democratic thought and criticism of Israeli fascist oppression -But only with your help!
Free housing.
In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your future residential developments on occupied land
with fully experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed
Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes and a view of the
Mediterranean, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated every year by American tax payers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your contribution and support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs a fortune to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Give a man a gun and he can kill a Palestinian child. Give him a helicopter and he can kill them all.
Part-time vacancies available
We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers and sniper nests. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but yet have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower guard division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.
Do it today.
P.s.
if anybody criticises you, just point a finger an call them anti-Semite.
It worked for the Liberty. -
help censor the Amercian press
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
If you are at an American University or further education college we are currently recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
We can actively stifle democratic thought and criticism of Israeli fascist oppression.
-But only with your help!
Free housing.
In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your future residential developments on occupied land
with fully experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed
Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes and a view of the
Mediterranean, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated every year by American tax payers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your contribution and support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs a fortune to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Give a man a gun and he can kill a Palestinian child. Give him a helicopter and he can kill them all.
Part-time vacancies available
We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers and sniper nests. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but yet have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower guard division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.
Do it today.
P.s.
if anybody criticises you, just point a finger an call them anti-Semite.
It worked for the Liberty. -
help censor the Amercian media
Support ethnic cleansing in Palestine and help censor the American press!
If you are at an American University or further education college we are currently recruiting active censorship drones to spy on fellow students, lecturers and guest speakers on behalf of the Israeli government.
We can actively stifle democratic thought and criticism of Israeli fascist oppression.
-But only with your help!
Free housing.
In six short weeks we can show you how to build a rogue state by demolishing existing homes in Palestine and building new houses on top!
We are currently looking for experienced bulldozer drivers with a large western bank balance to emigrate to the expansionist state of Israel and call it home.
Simply choose a plot of land and start building! Its easy peesy!!
If your chosen plot is currently occupied by a Palestinian family, dont worry
-simply build over them!
Its as easy peesy as eeny meeny miney mo!
We can protect your future residential developments on occupied land
with fully experienced snipers in full body armour and appropriately armed
Apache helicopters kindly donated by the American public.
If you are an American citizen with a view to emigrating to warmer climes and a view of the
Mediterranean, you may also be eligible for a fraction of the 3,000,000,000 (yes thats 3 Billion!) dollars donated every year by American tax payers to help support our broken-ass state.
Due to our endless appetite for weapons of mass destruction our economy is unsustainable and we require your contribution and support. WMDs don't come cheap you know. It costs a fortune to terrorise a whole region.
Our military personnel can barely afford to maintain our arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons, spy satellites and attack submarines.
Give a man a gun and he can kill a Palestinian child. Give him a helicopter and he can kill them all.
Part-time vacancies available
We are currently in construction of the world record breaking apartheid wall surrounding the largest ethic ghetto since Krakow.
The Israeli military is hiring expatriates preferably with a military background to monitor the prisoners and maintain watchtowers and sniper nests. If you are blinded by a covetousness of other peoples land, but yet have a keen eye with a sniper scope you would be the ideal candidate for our border watchtower guard division.
We need your help. Sponsor an Israeli colonizer.
Do it today.
P.s.
if anybody criticises you, just point a finger an call them anti-Semite.
It worked for the Liberty. -
Sacco's 'Palestine'
Here's a review of Sacco's Palestine if anyone's interested.
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Salter's Duck
Let's hope it does better than the Salter's Duck. The development project was cancelled in the 1980's after UK government departments grossly over-estimated (by a factor of 10) the cost of the electricity it was going to produce. Cock-up or conspiracy?
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Re:The real issue with RF ID is jobs
Oh, so you mean they are trying to automate menial tasks to make more profit? And you're concerned because this has never been done before? Here's an idea: go to each Walmart location and smash these RFID readers you speak of. Ned Ludd would be proud.
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Re:I'm curious...
the term "nuclear powered RamJet/ScramJet" doesn't really make sense.
A normal jet engine sucks in air, compresses it with several large turbines, adds fuel and ignites it. In a ramjet the air is compressed by the motion of the engine through the air, think basically a tube that tapers inwards. There are no moving parts, the fowards motion of the unit itself generates the compression.
Problem is, this doesn't work at supersonic speeds. A scramjet is ramjet shaped to work with supersonic air flowing through it... not a simple thing to design, obviously.
a nuclear rocket doesn't work by using combustion, it uses a nuclear reactor core and passes either air from the atmosphere or some on-board fuel through the core to get it very hot... So it expans, exits the rear, and propels the rocket fowards.
Since a nuclear rocket exhaust would be highly radioactive, you wouldn't want to run one in the atmosphere. Not in my back yard, anyway! In the late eighties the US planned to test a nuclear powered rocket over New Zealand as part of the "Timberwind" project in the early 80s (from memory).
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Re:Reminds me of Nestle
I happen to know about Nestle's wrong doings very well. My mum was a member of the Nursing Mothers Association of Australia (now the Australian Breastfeeding Association) and was local leader for a little while. So I grew up around a lot of this stuff
:PI found two pages with some information: THE NESTLE "COVER UP" IN AUSTRALIA and CORPORATE SCUMBAG: Nestle demands millions from famine-stricken country.
IIRC, the "first" problem was that poverty caused the mothers to stretch the baby formula as far as they could. This left the infants severely under-nourished. You're right about the second problem: very poor sanitation in many areas meant that the water used was often contanimated with raw sewerage. The people didn't know to boil the water because of poor education and couldn't even read the instructions on the can, which would have told them to do so.
It looks like you've already gotten some knee-jerk responses from MS fanboys, so I'll make the analogy (as I see it) clear:
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- The mothers were advised by docters who were on the take from Nestle, and encouraged by advertising to be "modern" like the west. The doctors often handed the mother their first can of infant formula free, "donated" by Nestle.
- With this "donated" software, these third-world countries desire to be "modern", just like the west. They will probably be "advised" by MS or others with an interest. This first batch of MS software is donated but who says it will be free in the future?
- The mothers almost always had to water down the formula to make it last longer on their meager earnings. The water was also contaminated with raw sewerage, resulting in very sick infants and many deaths.
- I'm sure these countries will try to also stretch this donated software as far as they can. There will be unauthorized copying and MS will no doubt crack down on "piracy" in the future. We've in fact seen MS do this many times already. It's almost a given.
- The mothers' own milk supply would "dry up", so to speak, leaving them dependant the formula to feed their infant.
- These "donations" by MS could also be seen as dumping. It may seem like the easy was to jump-start a countrys software industry, but in the long run it will limit it, if not stifle it. This will lock many administrators and developers into knowing only MS systems. It will likely also affect any local open-source development, both now and in the future.
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How will we fund it? Stop killing people, for one.
Does anyone honestly think that putting that bit of money elsewhere would solve whatever domestic problems you want fixed? Have we yet cured hunger, poverty, or undereducation? No? Well, we've been throwing billions at them so far.
Perhaps part of the problem is that the US is more interested in "solving problems" in other countries than dealing with domestic problems. The US currently spends 4-5 times more on the military than it does on educating its own citizens. See page 51.
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Easy Decision
I avoid Timex products because of thier reputation for being disrespectfully to thier Scottish employees and I avoid Exxon because of thier pollution record in Alaska, so this is a really easy negative, even though I do like gadgets!
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Re:"leave no billionaire behind"
Pretty much everything except living in caves and dying young destroys the ozone layer. Your point?
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"leave no billionaire behind"At least we know what Bush is going to do with the money he saved by abandoning the Kyoto Protocol.
Bush wants to make a little city -- "Plan B" -- on the Moon -- an exclusive space bunker for the billionaires.
It has been well known for many years that sending rockets into space destroys the ozone layer.
So a revitalized space program is perfectly aligned with Bush's other anti-environment programs.
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CIA is evil
CIA is one of the most evil organizations in the last 50 years. Following in the footsteps of other similar spy organizations like the SS and the KGB, the CIA is responsible for hundreads of thousands of deaths and for torturing many more.
I would urge Americans to limit their agents to WITHIN their country. Overthrowing other governments, killing innocent people, and spreading torture techniques is not my idea of defense. You want to protect your country? Use the agents to track and monitor people WITHIN your country. Sending them off to cause troubles in other countries is neither moral nor effective.
Countries where CIA has been complicit in kiling or torturing more than 10 people include El Salvador, Guatemla, Chile, Argentina, Indonesia, Iran, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, and many more...
CIA blowbacks include Iraqgate (money laundering to Iraq via Banca de la Franca), Iran-Contra (no comment), Usama bin Laden (contrary to US govt propaganda, he learned all his techniques off the CIA), and so forth. Then again, nothing out of the CIA should surprise anyone. I mean, this is the same organization that saved (and was influenced by) some of the most cruel Nazi war criminals. (another story here)
I guess I just got blacklisted for that...fuck the CIA and everything that it stands for :(:(:(
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Naval reactor accidentsIt's easy to make people think you're perfect when your mistakes are routinely covered up.
And in case you think the list linked above ends in 1978:
April 12, 2000: The USS Olympia, a nuclear-powered submarine docked at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, sprung a leak in the reactor's water exchange system after the maintenance was completed on a faulty valve in the reactor compartment. The valve failed again and some 500 gallons of water was released into the reactor compartment. This water then drained into the reactor bilge. Six sailors were exposed to radioactivity and subsequently decontaminated with soap and water.