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negative survival value, given sufficient time, breed themselves out

This is a foodstuff we're talking about, who says we're not giving ourselves at negative survival value with these actions? But I digest (no, I digress, but everyone loves a comic aside).

I have no idea how this thing will play out, I guess nobody would be able to say "I told you so". Making people question every aspect of interference with the ecosystem and food chain without hinderance from lobbyists and enablement by politicians is the only way that this process can be done safely, IMO.

We have made some utterly n00b mistakes with drugs, let's try really hard not to do it with the whole planet.

And sometimes I have a nice Guinness and post about stuff that I should probably research before commenting on things I deem important.

Easy. A perfect pint takes less than two minutes to pour!

You've obviously had too many to be able to read or think (assuming that you could before it all).

My post discussed low-alcohol brews, which Guinness doesn't sell in the 'States, or even make, AFAICT, http://www.guinness.com/us_en/beer/default.aspx/ so your comment is simple stupid trolling, but I'm going to try to educate you anyway. Please re-read this post and my original when straight and sober.

For starters, I will use the term brew, rather than beer, since not all of the former are the latter.

Not everyone can drink a brew with significant alcohol. My wife likes brews (Harp being one of her favorites), but alcohol conflicts with her medication. Sometimes I like to have "a bit" of brew when I know I am going to be on my Duc' or driving, and that's not really very intelligent.

I have had brews of various types in Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark, England, and Canada, including brews that were "domestic" in their respective countries, plus the US of A, so I have some personal experience. We have tried "real" beers of various types (mass production and craft) and the stuff major US of A manufacturers call beer, wheat beers, stouts, ales, malt liquors, porters, ...

We have also tried every low-alcohol brew we can find. None of them have tasted as good to us as the better of the alcohol-containing varieties, but the Clausthaler and others previously listed are acceptable (recommendations accepted).

You refer to an on-line rating service? That is as stupid as buying a mail-order bride rather than meeting and getting to know someone before marriage. Beer is not as expensive as a car, nor as infrequently replaced as tires, so there's no excuse for on-line rating services. Buy a bottle and try it, then decide whether, or not, YOU like it. If you're not legally able to purchase alcohol-containing beverages, then give us all a break and wait thirty or forty years before you post again.

I happen to like Guinness, 'specially when sitting in the "Dubh Linn Gate" at the Pan Pacific in Whistler, BC, where they fly it in daily for freshness and I'm not driving. OTOH, if your mental state is the result of significant consumption, I may have to give it up to prevent the same happening to me.

I'm outraged -- are you really implying that we should take this proof of dark matter with a grain of salt, while there's this well-known Irish company that's using dark matter to produce free, clean and constant energy right now?

I'd say they'd had a few too many pints of "dark matter" when they came up with their "free" energy idea.

Free Energy from warm beer. Brilliant!

http://www.guinness.com/us_en/ads/

Instead of anonymous goons, I think the Guinness guys should act this out instead...

http://www.guinness.com/us_en/

Brilliant!

I don't understand the beer reference.

Guiness runs a series of television advertizements where the characters yell "Brilliant" in such a way that every time the word is used you think of Guiness (at least, that's how it works for me). Looks like your Tivo is working well...

You may be right, but the article says: "Some beers already have higher levels of these compounds than others. The lager and pilsner beers commonly sold in domestic U.S. brews have fairly low levels of these compounds, but some porter, stout and ale brews have much higher levels."

So you might want to go with the Extra Stout instead of the Draught.

How to really write unmaintainable code:

Apply equal parts of Perl and Guinness

All my life, I have enjoyed the reputation of being someone who disrupted prevailing ideas. Now that I'm in my 80th year, I can play on my age and provoke people even more.

Should I remind people that the water they drink is pumped from rivers, lakes, and wells where animals (submarine and above ground) piss in it all the time?

And let's not forget that certain waste byproduct is actually desirable to drink! I'd like to find a lake full of this stuff. Hmmmmmm..... --M

I drink realbeer. Does this mean I can drink as much as I want?

But I agree that low-carb/lite beer is the worst stuff you can put in your body. That is, if you don't mind being a jerk or a sissy.

Never trust a man who drinks Coors Light.

Real men drink real beer.

I, too, enjoy a draught when I overheat; my favourites being Guinness or my own home brew.
I am sad, however, when there is a drought and I cannot enjoy same ;^)

After all, liquid courage has been a part of the military since the beginning of time.

Joe doesn't know any local linux geeks that'll come fix something for a 6 pack of Duff

Maybe if he tried offering Gunniess instead, he would get a better reception?

Oh come on, it's not like you haven't sat down with $RELATIVE_FROM_USA to fix $COMPUTER_PROBLEM and been offered something like crudwiser. Ick.

Refined tastes on technology need not imply a favoritism to non-domestic American beverages. But this is an important facet of software that people leave out: culture.

I view that whole problem with software is not about the number of machines installed. The problem is about people, attitudes and perceptions.

I feel that addressing the difference of community will be the single most challenging task facing popular adoption of tools like Linux. The OS installed on a user's computer is a choice of that user. It is up to you to change that user's attitude. They will put up with horrid quality when they don't know of a better alternative.

In my opinion culture clash between 'Joe Sixpack Windows-User' and everybody else is dramatic. Both the Apple and $FREE_OS communities like to view themselves as fringe or special groups. They celebrate their difference from the mainstream. Pure and unadulterated Windows users form a different community than the users of Apple or $FREE_OS products. They belive the tools they have work and work adequately. The common users are people who are sufficiently content with their pre-packaged choice to not look outside the beige box. Due to bad practices by Microsoft, they also form the largest community of individual personal computer users.

It has been said that the I.Q. of a group is the lowest I.Q. of the members of the group divided by the number of members of that group (think communication overhead when talking with slow people.) Fortunately for the 'Aunt Tillies' of the world, individual users can have quite a solid grasp of basic computer skills. Unfortunately, confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance imply a lot of ineria.

While 'Aunt Tillie, CTO/CFO' grasps software quality, their grasp may be of the level of the average car buyer. This is a person who only needs to know about various cars during the rare purchase of a car. In the M$ dominated media of software boxes at your local $MEGA_MART, communicating the benefits of something like Linux or Apple over Microsoft products will require overcoming the established noise level of $ billions in marketing

This is why Microsoft is 50% marketing. This is why commercial Linux distributions are a Good Thing. This is why Apple is still here. The best hackers of the world have been excellent social engineers before anything else. It's time to put that 'social' part to a very good use.

Social engineering of the common man to want quality in software, rather than just settling for third best is possible. After helping run a student organization for Linux users for a few years, I have seen remarkable progress in the quality of various distributions. However, problems with GUI's, driver availability and application compatibility are but small technical hurdles that can be solved with adequate coding.

If you care about software quality then talk to you neighbor. Show off your computers. Maybe even offer them a Guinness while you watch DVDs on your PC with those neighbors. Get the word out.

You should warn them about the other side-effects.

I can't see through.

Really? I didn't see any red eyes. You might want to check again.

Luckily there's a remedy for both... Guinness

Mine doesn't... but it does carbonate.

Umm... that would actually be nitrogenate.

Mine doesn't... but it does carbonate.

No need to go down to your local pub, you can get this fresh taste by getting a can of Guinness from you local super market. It is charged with nitrogen when you open the can. The process for the 'nitrogen cakes' in the can is described in U.S. patent no. 4,832,968 .

crashing copies of this as-yet-unreleased product are sure to cause dilution of branding.

If crashing causes dilution of branding then no one would think Microsoft when whatever flavor of Windows they have crashes...

...hang on a second...I just remembered I patented software crashing. I'll have to get my lawyers to start them royalty lawsuits. Pretty soon even my lawyers will be richer than God, and I'll be richer than Bill Gates! Brilliant!

Sorry to spell troll, but I love Guinness and couldn't let beer abuse go unpunished.

Serious question : "Free as in beer?" What does that actually mean? Beer isn't free. Does it mean that if you go to Dublin or Copenhagen, you can go and see how it's made, therefore being analagous to see the source of that latest program you just downloaded?

Please, explain!

PS. Yeah, AC, I know, I swear I'll come back and read any replies.

It also comes in bottles

They only sell it in cans!

From this page:

GUINNESS® Draught is best served at 42.8F.

Enjoy in the pub or at home in cans or bottles. Chilled, of course. We recommend 6C for GUINNESS® Draught and a cooler 3.5C for GUINNESS® Draught Extra Cold. Your GUINNESS® Draught in cans should be chilled for a minimum of three hours before serving, and chilling for even longer will simply add to the ultimate experience.

Actually I would take a slightly different approach. If you take a look at the Guinness Pearls of wisdom fact number 6, it states that: "At 198 calories a pint GUINNESS® has fewer calories than a pint of skimmed milk or orange juice" So basically any time you get hungry, you can have a pint! You can even win some money by betting you can get hungry more than 20 times in an hour.

Sugar is basically the worst thing you can eat in terms of health. Consuming refined sugar causes immense insulin surges,...

Have a look at some glycemic index tables. The simple starches generally make your blood sugar and insulin rise faster and farther than pure glucose syrup! When the FDA Food Guide Pyramid says to eat all those servings of bread and grain products, they don't mean white bread made from finely-milled flour.

I just hope that Splenda (sucralose) turns out to be harmless :/

...that was interesting. But after years of experimentation, I'm still holding onto my theory that the primary cause of hiccups originates from the Guinness brewery. ;-)

Considering that Guinness is the gold standard for narrow-minded beer snobs, what do you think of this?

Considering that Guinness is the gold standard for narrow-minded beer snobs, what do you think of this?

we brew every weekend 10 litres, enough for a week. it gets better and better.

Or could it be that you're just getting used to the (bad) taste? It wouldn't be unheard of...

Children should not be allowed to drink beer. Especially GOOD beer like Guinness Stout.

According to the netsol.com domain registration search:

molsonsucks.com is available
molsonsucks.net is available
molsonsucks.us is available
molsonsucks.biz is available
molsonsucks.info is available
molsonsucks.tv is available
molsonsucks.org is available
molsonsucks.ws is available
molsonsucks.cc is available
molsonsucks.bz is available

Anyone want to grab a few of these and redirect them to www.guinness.com?? 2600, where are you? We need once again for you to come register silly domain names in the name of truth and justice!

( P.S. : Actually, well, my personal preference would be baileys.com, but it's up to you ;) )

They won't let you bring in alcohol without signing it in for the record. Make your own!!! Nobody is the wiser...

Given that you need to boil the wort (for those of you who don't brew, that's the barley-malt-and-hops solution that, along with yeast, is what beer is made of) for about an hour, that presents two problems: (1) finding a burner to do the job (a hotplate won't cut it and you probably don't want to use whatever common kitchen facilities your dorm might have) and (2) hiding the smell (and it is strong) from someone who might rat you out. There are kits where supposedly all you do is just stir some ingredients together and let it sit for a while, but you'll likely get something that resembles pisswater more than b e e r.

There is a real difference in ads from country to country.

For example here in the UK we very rarely go for direct comparison / competition knocking ads. We do however go for humor and "mini soap" ads which are often so good/engaging/funny that they get grabbed and emailed around and become part of the culture.

The current must get is a Chameleon phone which sings "Come a Chameleon" (I think) By Boy George, featured in a BT advert.

We even get direct mail, email, SMS advertising adverts! "The new XXXX advert will air tonight at..." particulalry with the mini soap style ads mentioned in this thread.

Perphaps this style of Adsomething US advertisers need to do more of so that people will get caught up by the ads? (NOTE : Not learn how to do ads like this...they know how!)

If you can sucessfuly turn more adverts into Memes then the feature users might demand is a Forward advert to friends list button not a fast forward advert button.

Take a look at Tango (All flash site, great wacky brand integration, you need to work through the site to get to the adverts - great stuff diving suits and electromagnets.... water beds and porcipines.

Or

Some real classics. Guinness

smart2000 asks: "I'm tired of lugging around dead trees.

You haven't investigated all the transportation options for your collection. Wouldn't you rather put all that potential scanning time to better use? :-)

Jack
We want more, but we're getting Jack instead.

but not as cool as the widget, from Guinness. The self-foaming can!

Ummm...Actually...Bottled Guinness now comes with super cool widgets that not only keep it cold, but give it a perfect head.

For more info, either read my writeup about it Here on JesusGeeks.net or go straight to the source: Usa.guinness.com (it has a cool flash animation showing how the new widget (which uses nitrogen) works). Or you can go see Wired's story on the same subject. 13.5 million dollars in R and D went into bringing you cold guinness with a head.

So stop your whining!

I took a nice, healthy shit an hour ago and boy do my bowels feel evacuated. It's a really nice feeling, all empty inside. Then I ate fish and chips and Guinness. Bloody good meal.

In my experience, a LAN party is where a bunch of 20- and 30-suffereings raid their friends house (which is overly wired because his company was bought out and his stocks went through the roof), bringing all manner of electronic contraption, but most importantly their computers.

There is a brief frenzy of activity where people erect card tables, run to office max for additional hubs and NICs, set up their machines, plug in their monitors and so forth... As people come in, the game of "monitor envy" begins, where those with 17"s see the 19"s and the 19"s get dwarfed by the 21"s, and the 21"s are envious of the flat 17"s (because they lugged a 75lb monitor from 1/10 of a mile down the street due to parking). People show off their palm pilots, their internet phones, their TiVo, and much geek envy begins.

Finally, someone who either doesn't have all the toys, is a Mechanical Engineer (and hence not quite as tech envious), or has seen them all becomes bored and says "Beer?"

Ah, now here the kegs of Guinness come forth from the kitchen, and the Mechanical Engineers begin to explain the intracacies of the guinness keggerator, the use of the second cooler, and the beer begins to flow.

So then the games begin, as patches are downloaded, game terms are agreed upon, and teams are set. Girlfriends and fiancees look on with disgust, then proceed to watch Wallace and Grommit. We watch as neophyte quake players take on the guy who knows exactly where the railgun spawns. A penalty is assessed to the "God player" and he is forced to drink more beer. The game changes to Starcraft, then to Tribes, then to Halflife, then to something else. The game constantly changes and evolves. Breaks are taken for Guinness, to watch portions of Wallace and Grommit and internet shorts like Troops.

No victor is declared, no tears are shed when the game is over, and everybody leaves happy. Even fiancees have a good time.
--

Twice the Pimp and all the Penguin! The Linux Pimp

Of all the freaking things... Guinness' site is down. But I think by definition that Harp is actually a Lager...

As much as I despise censorship on the Internet, I find it blasphemous that anyone would even suggest that Guinness could suck. Guinness is the nectar of the gods. In fact, I think I'll go register guinness-is-the-best-god-damn-beer-ever.com, oh wait, that'd probably be "identical or confusingly similar to" their trademark on the word "Guinness." Oh well. :)

in the tradition of linus... for a smooth, fill-ya-up website stench experience... it's hops, it's barley, it's protien... the only website i'd want to smell would be. Guinness. and on tap at that -- in ireland. -cyb

The new bottle has a widget in it too. Each time you take a drink from the bottle, the widget releases a little bit more gas, thus keeping the head.

Those guys in the Research Centre in Ireland sure have their heads screwed on the right way. Doing wonders for our wonderful products.

As for good places to get Guinness in Ireland, here are a few that I know of:
Dublin Airport
Guinness Hopstore (let's face it, if you can't get a good pint of Guinness at the source, where else will you get one?)
Lynches Pub (Thomas St., Dublin - just down the road from the brewery)
Sheaf Of Wheat Pub, Coolock, Dublin (formally a Guinness owned pub)

I'm sure there are a lot more too.

I don't drink, so I can only go by what people tell me. But a lot of people who have drunk Guinness in Dublin Airport after flying home from a holiday have found it to be a delight to their taste buds.

The secret to a good pint of Guinness is the way you pour the pint. Guinness isn't lager, and thus shouldn't be poured like lager. It shouldn't be poured too fast either. And the Gas mix has to be right. Most barmen in Ireland know this, but unfortunately in other countries they don't.

Everyone knows that Guinness made in Ireland is the best in the world, but no too many realise that this same Guinness that is served in Irish pubs is also served in American pubs. Made right here in St. James's Gate.

http://www.guinness.com - you might even find the instructions on how to pull a proper pint.

Oh, it officially takes 119.5 seconds to pull a proper pint of Guinness.


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