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Absolutely correct, my screen 2 is my laptop..When I travel I won't need 2 screens anyway (gets a bit difficult in a plane
:-), so I use the laptop for showing docs.Under Windows it runs UltraVNC and the main screen has Win2vnc installed, any combination with Linux uses x2vnc and if it's all Linux you can use x2x.
I can see myself buy a 2nd screen pretty soon though (a wide one), I now have cards with digital out in all my systems (OK, it's pointless in the server but it's a test system so it can be used for anything
:-)Having said all that, I sometimes find it handy to dump the complete manual on tree and sit in the sun reading my way through it..
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Absolutely correct, my screen 2 is my laptop..When I travel I won't need 2 screens anyway (gets a bit difficult in a plane
:-), so I use the laptop for showing docs.Under Windows it runs UltraVNC and the main screen has Win2vnc installed, any combination with Linux uses x2vnc and if it's all Linux you can use x2x.
I can see myself buy a 2nd screen pretty soon though (a wide one), I now have cards with digital out in all my systems (OK, it's pointless in the server but it's a test system so it can be used for anything
:-)Having said all that, I sometimes find it handy to dump the complete manual on tree and sit in the sun reading my way through it..
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Re:How about patenting these images too?
You can see the images in firefox/unix, just use plugger:
http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger.html
Run it through any image viewer (e.g. eye of gnome)
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Re:IronicThe problem with GSView is that it doesn't have a browser plugin, at least not for Mozilla, AFAIK.
Why would you want a browser plugin? I click on pdf files, and xpdf opens them in a new window. I like that.
That said, if you want it opened in your browser, use konqueror (it can embed kpdf), or try plugger.
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Re:tightvnc vs. real vnc
Sorry, that's Win2VNC, not winIIVNC: Here's the link:http://fredrik.hubbe.net/win2vnc.html
It really is one of the most useful pieces of software I use, and I'm *really* surprised it hasn't shown up in any other post in this entire discussion on VNC!
(Of course, there's X2VNC if the "master" desktop is X-based rather than Windows-based. Personally, I'm *way* too addicted to a few dozen critical apps that only exist in the Windows world.) -
osx2x, x2x, x2vnc, and win2vnc
All of these let you move your mouse off the side of a screen on the machine running the program, over to another machine.
osx2x - control another machine via X11 or VNC, from a Mac.
x2x (check your OS' package collection) - control another machine via X11, from an X11 host.
x2vnc (again, check for packages) - control another machien via VNC, from an X11 host.
win2vnc - control another machine via VNC, from a Windows host.
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osx2x, x2x, x2vnc, and win2vnc
All of these let you move your mouse off the side of a screen on the machine running the program, over to another machine.
osx2x - control another machine via X11 or VNC, from a Mac.
x2x (check your OS' package collection) - control another machine via X11, from an X11 host.
x2vnc (again, check for packages) - control another machien via VNC, from an X11 host.
win2vnc - control another machine via VNC, from a Windows host.
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Plugger avoids plug-in hell!
There is a Mozilla plug-in called Plugger which itself allows stand-alone programs to be used as plug-ins. This provides the desired feature of in-line viewing of formats not natively understood by Mozilla. But it also does another thing that other plug-in APIs misses, it seprates the stablity of the browser from the stablity of the Plugger'd viewer.
The Netscape plug-in, IE ActiveX and IE BHO APIs all allow the plug-in to crash the browser! Even worse, these APIs make it trival for Spyware to collect information including online banking username/passwords.
For the majority of plug-ins, all the plug-in functionality needed was a display system to provide their "window" in-line with the document. So, why then does plug-in APIs allow the program to run in-process with the browser? -
Damnit, preview your posts!If you have windows machine as the main one: VNC2VNC . Works with anything that I can get VNC on, although the scroll wheel doesn't work. I use it to control my Beige g3 from my Northgate keyboard (on XP).
This works just like multiple monitors, and I highly recommend it if you have several computers sitting next to each other.
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Turn divx into dvds
mkdvd rocks. It's a handy little script to reencode any mplayer-playble movie into a dvd. Works like a charm.
Very convenient for those those movies that need to be watched on the big screen. -
Re:Cool. Now to get some money...If you use two systems at the same desk, there are some good tricks you can do. On an X-windows box, run an app called x2vnc. Then, on your second machine (e.g. windows) run a vncserver. When the mouse hits the end of the screen, it warps over to the other PC. So, you get to use two different PCs as a multiple display setup, using the same inputs. Cut and paste works as well! Highly recommended. I used to do it with a dual head PC to get three displays hooked in.
If you want both machines running X, you need to use x2x, as vncserver on *nix creates a virtual display.
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Re:Interesting
If you don't already have a solution, I would recommend giving Win2VNC a try. I have two computers that I work on regularly, and this allows me to treat them very much like a single dual head machine.
Its based on VNC, but instead of displaying an image of the remote computer on your screen, it sets up a single pixel wide border on your monitor and when the mouse moves onto that border, it starts sending all input over to the other machine. Its extremely fast because there is no image data coming back, you get to watch the real screen. Clipboard copies both ways, so other than dragging icons, it works almost exactly like a dual monitor setup.
It does not work well if one of the computers has dual monitors. -
Re:VNC?
I believe the whole thing behind not using VNC is the network lag. I use VNC at work and it sucks.
Keep in mind that these suggestions were for x2vnc and win2vnc . So instead of running a full VNC client (with the remote desktop displayed back to the controlling computer), you are only sending keyboard/mouse events. This is much faster.
I have a Sun workstation at work, from which I am controlling a Linux box on one side (using x2x) and a Mac OS X box on the other side (using x2vnc). There is no lag whatsoever - the mouse moves smoothly across all my 3 monitors. :-)
(That is, unless the network has the occasional hiccup).
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Re:VNC?
I believe the whole thing behind not using VNC is the network lag. I use VNC at work and it sucks.
Keep in mind that these suggestions were for x2vnc and win2vnc . So instead of running a full VNC client (with the remote desktop displayed back to the controlling computer), you are only sending keyboard/mouse events. This is much faster.
I have a Sun workstation at work, from which I am controlling a Linux box on one side (using x2x) and a Mac OS X box on the other side (using x2vnc). There is no lag whatsoever - the mouse moves smoothly across all my 3 monitors. :-)
(That is, unless the network has the occasional hiccup).
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win2vnc may work
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win2vnc may work
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VNC + Win2VNC
VNC sessions on the other boxen, each with win2vnc to allow the mouse to go to the next terminal when the edge is hit. Win2VNC
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Yes, but...
This was the way i understood it as well. But even if you dont use the proprierty DLLs you can play most of the common movie files, including wmf if I remember it right (Didnt look into the file though, maybe it was just a file with a wmf-extension). If they would include the player without any closed libs or potential copyright conflicting source they could add a huge benefit to their distributions. Especially if they would include plugins such as plugger.
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Re:What's the application?
Also win2vnc works for the other direction. Windows to X.
BTW, i use a 4 port KVM, so I can share 1 21inch monitor with my laptop docking station/linux box/test box/sun box, works perfectly, and I bought OEM cables for 15 bux per pack for video/ps2 cables. KVM's rule. -
Re:What's the application?4) Cables suck. KVMs work, but suck. Multiple keyboards suck. Multiple anything with computers generally suck.
I did the two keyboard thing until I found x2vnc. I just run a vnc server on my windows box, fire up x2vnc on the linux box, and presto - seamless mouse and keyboard interaction over the OS barrier. For novelty reasons alone it's worth checking out.
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The perfect solution....
...could actually be a combination of these three things:
1. An latop with the display you need (15" UXGA, etc, etc) - $2000?
CPU, Disk and RAM don't matter.
2. A small Compaq Evo e-PC with the computing power you need. - $683.00 onwards
(P4 CPU, DDR, 2 GB RAM - you can upgrade the disk).
The form factor is pretty small: 10"x10"x3.5" + a small power brick
3. A VNC server (eg: TightVNC) on your "server"
and a VNC client on your laptop. Run the client full screen.
You can also use Windows' built in terminal server if you're runing Microsoft.
Plus you'd need some network connectivity (Wifi/Bluetooth/crossover cable) between your client and your server.
This is a client/server setup at a (comparatively) cheap price, small enough for hand luggage (airport security won't hassle you if you checked the "server" in and carried your laptop in hand baggage). Plus you can use your laptop on the flight.
If you hookup a second monitor to your "server"in the field, you can also use x2vnc (Linux) or Win2VNC (windows) to obtain a single dual-head "desktop". These programs allow you to use two screens on your two different computers as if they were connected to the same computer (single mouse and keyboard controls both and "jumps" at the screen border) You can also cut and paste between computers. Even if one is running Windows, and the other is running Linux. It's great - I use it at work in my "dual-head" XP/Linux setup.;-) -
The perfect solution....
...could actually be a combination of these three things:
1. An latop with the display you need (15" UXGA, etc, etc) - $2000?
CPU, Disk and RAM don't matter.
2. A small Compaq Evo e-PC with the computing power you need. - $683.00 onwards
(P4 CPU, DDR, 2 GB RAM - you can upgrade the disk).
The form factor is pretty small: 10"x10"x3.5" + a small power brick
3. A VNC server (eg: TightVNC) on your "server"
and a VNC client on your laptop. Run the client full screen.
You can also use Windows' built in terminal server if you're runing Microsoft.
Plus you'd need some network connectivity (Wifi/Bluetooth/crossover cable) between your client and your server.
This is a client/server setup at a (comparatively) cheap price, small enough for hand luggage (airport security won't hassle you if you checked the "server" in and carried your laptop in hand baggage). Plus you can use your laptop on the flight.
If you hookup a second monitor to your "server"in the field, you can also use x2vnc (Linux) or Win2VNC (windows) to obtain a single dual-head "desktop". These programs allow you to use two screens on your two different computers as if they were connected to the same computer (single mouse and keyboard controls both and "jumps" at the screen border) You can also cut and paste between computers. Even if one is running Windows, and the other is running Linux. It's great - I use it at work in my "dual-head" XP/Linux setup.;-) -
Re:My lap top already does dual screenAs long as you don't run Win2k, that's fine. For some reason, MS completely broke laptop dual-heading under that OS. Works fine with two discreet graphics cards in a desktop apparently.
Ah well, X2VNC is much better anyway, sure you need two machines, but one can be *nix and you get shared keyboard/mouse between the two displays and even better; cut & paste between them.
And it's free. Highly recommended if you work with several machines and find yourself using the wrong mouse now and again...
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What a bummer
just another "me too" -- I really like Firefly, and will miss it. At least Jeremiah has a complete season, with a second one coming up. It must really suck to not even be allowed to complete a whole season. Or maybe the Babylon 5 fan in me over-emphasizes the narrative unity that can be found in a whole season.
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Thanks for the info.
I didn't know that it existed. Here's a link that I found
http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger.html
Says that it works with Opera, so it has my attention. Does it work with streaming of WMV files? -
x2vnc?
Has anyone tried an app called x2vnc? It works very similar to a dual monitor setup, but you can use two different computers. It uses VNCserver so you can even have an X windows server running x2vnc connected to a pc running windows with only one mouse and keyboard.
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Re:Wireless mouse throwing!
I do this everyday to share my keyboard and mouse between my two Win 2k machines. It's called Win2VNC.
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Re:so disappointing
That's a feature I'd like with X. Just set my notebook next to my 21' monitor, and it automatically becomes a part of my multiheaded display unit.
I know someone's already mentioned win2vnc, but there's also x2vnc which works incredibly well between my Debian desktop and W2K laptop: just stick a VNC server on the laptop and run x2vnc on the X desktop. It's also easy to write a little script to keep trying x2vnc so I can pull my laptop out of the docking station and when I drop it back in the connection's restored.
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Re:so disappointing
That's a feature I'd like with X. Just set my notebook next to my 21' monitor, and it automatically becomes a part of my multiheaded display unit.
I know someone's already mentioned win2vnc, but there's also x2vnc which works incredibly well between my Debian desktop and W2K laptop: just stick a VNC server on the laptop and run x2vnc on the X desktop. It's also easy to write a little script to keep trying x2vnc so I can pull my laptop out of the docking station and when I drop it back in the connection's restored.
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Re:network mouse
Hmmm. I think i'm going to move my logitech optical wireless mouse's pointer from my laptop over to my desktop, copy this text:
At one desk, users can move a wireless mouse's pointer from the screen of one computer to the screen of a laptop, with no wire or wireless connection between the computers themselves. That allows copying or moving material between the computers, a task that would otherwise be more difficult.
move the cursor back, and paste it into this comment box. Damn. I like win2vnc. Granted, it requires the computers to be networked and have software installed, and i've never really tried moving images, but it makes it easy for me to use my email and 'personal' stuff on my own laptop and do work on my desktop with just one keyboard and mouse, and plenty of real estate.
Yet again, Microsoft's vision of the future is where we could all have been 5 years ago if it hadn't been for their 'help.' -
win2vnc
"At one desk, users can move a wireless mouse's pointer from the screen of one computer to the screen of a laptop, with no wire or wireless connection between the computers themselves."
I am doing that right now...
win2vnc
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Jeremiah lives.
At least Jeremiah was renewed for a second season. not a space show, I guess.
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Re:not to mention...
You should install "plugger", it allows a great deal of apps to act as pluggins for Mozilla.
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Re:VNC as a KVM?
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Re:VNC as a KVM?
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Re:Differences?
Having to know about some command that would be rather, err, weird to find out about (hard to do a search for something when you don't know it exists or if it does by what name!!) is not good a good 'user experiance"
Actually, a simple search for "Linux hard drive spin down" at Google reveals the first match is a good start.
People first need to learn how to search the net.
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Multiple computers with one keyboard
The old logitech cordless keyboards I use can be locked onto as many receiving computers as you may want.
What's missing is a program like X2Vnc to catch the mouse pointer and all keystrokes when moving from one end of the screen to another, or maybe with a key-combination.
Any other way it's a totally useless feature, but my laptop don't like ps/2 kvm's either so that's not a solution for me. -
Re:VNC
vnc is suppossed to be good and it works for free
VNC rawks. I just compiled x0rfbserver for a Debian Woody box (you'll also need the xclass libraries) and I can even see my
:0 display and use Win2VNC (Think x2x, but using Windows 2000 and some VNC frippery). Plain ol' VNC on a *NIX machine spawns an additional display. -
Re:what about Mplayer
MPlayer doesn't work within browsers.
Try plugger
MPlayer does not, and according to its developers, will not ever play audio files
Try the latest CVS version of MPlayer. It has support for audio only files.
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multiple montiors with VNC
I've been using some manner of dual head system for a few years. Once you get used to having the real estate, it's hard to go back. I now have a pc with one big AGP-connected monitor and a secondary 17in runnig on a pci card, which is great for non-graphics intensive stuff like a terminal window, mp3 player, contact manager/schedule, but mainly for displaying documentation or assignments or other useful info while i'm coding on the bigger monitor.
Anyways, my point was that i end up using my extra monitors for simple stuff like showing a text document, which could easily be done by an old laptop or obsolete pentium desktop you have lying around. So, you can use x2vnc or win2vnc to link the computers together. I use this to set my laptop next to some other display, and i can mouse over, even copy and paste, like both displays were on the same system. -
multiple montiors with VNC
I've been using some manner of dual head system for a few years. Once you get used to having the real estate, it's hard to go back. I now have a pc with one big AGP-connected monitor and a secondary 17in runnig on a pci card, which is great for non-graphics intensive stuff like a terminal window, mp3 player, contact manager/schedule, but mainly for displaying documentation or assignments or other useful info while i'm coding on the bigger monitor.
Anyways, my point was that i end up using my extra monitors for simple stuff like showing a text document, which could easily be done by an old laptop or obsolete pentium desktop you have lying around. So, you can use x2vnc or win2vnc to link the computers together. I use this to set my laptop next to some other display, and i can mouse over, even copy and paste, like both displays were on the same system. -
Milk For Free.
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Re:FUD indeedOK, it's not easy getting all of those things when more open standards are available. Still, my wife seems to like her linux web experience.
Plugger for quicktime. Looks like a workable pain in the neck. I'll wait for Macromedia to give it up and make a free project.
Windows Media? Why bother with what is sure to become a former "standard" in the ever shifting sands of MS file formats?
Vietnamese fonts. Try this then go here for more help. Good luck, it's hard for me to judge any of this. Still, I can only imagine that you will do better with Linux than any MS software.
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Have they fixed plug-ins in Linux?
About 0.7 or thereabouts, all my plugins died. No more Flash (no great loss save for losing Thugs On Film), no more Real Audio (NGL except for Car Talk). No plug-ins listed in the about:plugins page. Has this been fixed?
Also, while talking about external programs: how about being able to link to external DOWNLOADERS! I prefer to use NT (the program, not the OS) to do my downloads, and I'd like to plug that into Mozilla. I'd like to see
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Re:I use (Palm)VNC for remote reboots...
According to the VNC web site, The WinVNC server is slow period. I use it mainly with x2vnc to control my windows machine from my linux machine. When I move my mouse to the edge of the screen in X, it starts moving the mouse in windows and linux keyboard input goes to the current windows program. I've tried using the X vnc client with the WinVNC and it is painfully slow. The X VNC server is much faster.
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Re:VNC
Add to this x2vnc (which is available here) which allows you to have a dual-head system with Unix and whatever else. I can just roll my mouse over to my NT box, and do stuff there!
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Re:Plugin Reviews
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Re:3D? Who cares. I just want a 10 head display!Yes, it is called x2x, and can be set up so that as the mouse hits the edge of a screen, it "jumps" to the next monitor (on a different machine or on the same machine). If you go to the VNC website and look under contributions, there is a program called x2vnc that does that same thing with a windows machine, one mouse/keyboard on the unix machine controlling both the X display and a windows display via VNC. So you can use a combination of x2x and x2vnc to control any group of X-based or VNC-based displays.
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Try out Plugger too
Once you're done getting XAnim, MpegTV, and some other multimedia players, try out Plugger. It provides Netscape plug-in capability for the file formats used in XAnim, MpegTV, Timidity, splay, and mikmod. Especially good for those QuickTime videos embedded in the @Home video news section.