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the batteries of my Galaxy S5 with lineageos.org, if in stand by, lasts more then 24h... (and with removable batteries!)

I'm wondering whether we will eventually get a trustworthy western corporation with their own version of Android that doesn't snoop so much. I have an old Android phone that my kid uses and that thing lasts almost a week on a single charge of the 1800 mAh battery.

If you specifically require *Android* :

- using the opensource LineageOS
- and using either F-Droid (specifically for opensource software) or/and Aptoide (multiple 3rd party repositories) to obtain 3rd party apps.
- and optionnally installing MicroG as an alternative implementation if any of your must-have apps requires a library that is normally provided by Google (And optionnally
(- and optionnally Yalp store if you desperately need apps from Play store).

this are the ways to proceed to obtain an Android that doesn't snoop too much.

If you aren't married to Android specifically:

  - look at the upcoming Librem 5 by Purism. It's exactly designed with the intent of "a phone that doesn't snoop too much on the kids", being built from the ground up for that (with physical kill-switched to block the separate USB-connected modem, etc.)

- or, if you want something that you can install today, look at Sailfish OS, a full blown GNU/Linux by the guys who used to work on Maemo/Meego at Nokia (before the whole Elop+Microsoft fiasco), which is installable on select few devices (Jolla sells licensed version to install on a couple of Sony devices. In the forum you can find community made opensource version for other phone)
( ^- I use that, on Sony Xperia smartphones)

- or check Ubuntu Touch, nowadays handled by UBPort now that Cannonical has dropped the ball.

Note that is you have a couple of android apps that you need, the commercial version of Sailfish offers an app compatibility layer (and refer to MicroG above and in the forum if your apps insist on Google libraries).

and Purism is considering making an app compatibility layer too (again, use MicroG for apps that require Google libraries).

For *maps* specifically, check out "OSM Scout Server" (installing your own local open-street map server on your phone) and "Pure Maps" (a nice non-google map application that can optionnally fetch maps from OSM Scout Server).
The devs are currently making Sailfish OS version, and they plan to release Librem versions too once that phone hits the market.

https://download.lineageos.org... if he did use this and not install any of the GApps he is actually, but I'm not the OP so I don't know.

One more argument to not trust whatever is pre-installed on your smartphone, but unlock the bootloader and flash a firmware that *YOU personally* trust.

Be it some opensource Android derivative,
or some completely different full-blown GNU/Linux based solution.
( ^- just citing my personal favorite. You could also think about Ubuntu Touch from UBPorts, the system that Purism is building specifically for their Librem 5 phone, etc.)

Just because you (the average consumer) can't use it on a phone you got from $carrier, doesn't mean that others can't put it to use.

That's not meant to be an insult, by the way... unlocked phones (that are truly unlocked, not just 'unlocked' to allow a different carrier w/ the same tech) can be loaded with the ROM and taken to town.

PS: If you're gonna talk about it, then be kind and provide a link to LineageOS, mm'kay? :)

My only (and unique) "flagship" was (and still is) a S5, buyed refurbished after 2 years of the launch, mainly by the removable battery and http://lineageos.org/ :P

http://lineageos.org/

It's because people don't really care. I have to admit, I use an Android phone so I guess I am encouraging privacy violations. But the alternative is to lock myself into Apple's walled garden, inability to simply copy files to my phone, and instead have to use a format iTunes will be happy with or use a flaky in app transfer; I pick sacrificing my privacy.

Android is a open source operating system with a Linux kernel.

The problem is not the operating system it's software bundled with it. Most notably Google Play Services which magically transforms anything running Android into malware.

Alternative images freely available and regularly maintained can be downloaded for many devices here: https://lineageos.org/

... the lack of it was the first "fail" to me (it's a reason why I still keep my S5 [it shines with http://lineageos.org/ ] :P)

Jump to Lineage OS (Samsung GS6 build), and don't look back. I got tired of being dependent on manufacturers and bloatware a long time ago. Been happy ever since.

This one's easy but you're not gonna like the answer. The drivers aren't open, usually ever, so you're fucked because only the manufacturer could update or supply the newer versions. Also the RAM usage and feature creep is very high on later Android versions, so for example anything not 4.4 requires 2GB or a lot more RAM. If you need such a feature, get a device that supports LineageOS, which fixes the problems you just outlined. The device support is kind of limited however: https://download.lineageos.org...

https://wiki.lineageos.org/dev...

I installed that on my 6p. Its extremely nice if I do say so myself. Had to flash the modem and vendor partitions so heads up.

Here's how I like 'em...and I suggest ya have 'em the same way! (sorry about the jumbled wall of text, Slashdot would not accept it when it was neatly formatted)

OS: LineageOS (XDA Forums), Activity tracker: Loop Habit Tracker, Ad blocker: AdAway, Appstore: F-Droid & Yalp Store, Audiobook player: Voice, Calculator: LineageOS stock or Simple Calculator, Calendar: Simple Calendar (Offline, local calendar), Camera: LineageOS stock or Simple Camera, Clock: Simple Clock or LineageOS stock, Contacts: Simple Contacts or LineageOS stock, Document scanner: Open Note Scanner, Document viewer: Document Viewer, Drawing: Simple Draw, Email: K-9 Mail, Feed reader: Flym, File Manager: Simple File Manager and DiskUsage, Game: Shortyz & SolitaireCG, Gallery: Simple Gallery or LineageOS stock, Launcher: LineageOS stock, Loyalty card: Loyalty Card Keychain, Maps: OsmAnd+, Messenger: Delta Chat and Meshenger, Music player: Simple Music Player or Vanilla Music or LineageOS stock, Netcast client: SoundWaves or AntennaPod, Notes: Simple Notes, Password manager: KeePassDroid, Sensor test: Sensor Readout, SMS: Silence, Spirit level: Bubble, Star chart: Sky Map, Television killer: TV KILL, Terminal emulator: Termux, Unit converter: Unit Converter Ultimate, Web browser: Private Browser or

Instead, LineageOS https://lineageos.org/ provides a su option zip that can be flashed along with the main image and opengapps. After it is installed, you can toggle root access via the developer options and control which apps can get it.

The list of devices officially supported is not huge, but there are some unofficial builds available now for select others. LineageOS is rather nice if you can run it.

Any phone that you can get with regular monthly OS updates or you can install LineageOS on

when someone asks me to look for a phone i tell them to
1) use GSMArena's phone finder (or whatever their prefer) to search for a phone
2) check the phone they find against the list of devices that LineageOS supports https://download.lineageos.org...

Currently i'm using a Moto E 2015 LTE phone (surnia), but my next phone won't be a Moto - when they launched this model they promised it would have regular OS updates without having to install alternate OSs but then they fucked us and even discontinued all support for the phone. They sold it with a 2 year warranty but dumped its support 6 months after they launched it.

Here are some phones and devices that LineageOS - and you don't have to load any Google apps.

You can already have this. Wipe your phone and install LineageOS (https://www.lineageos.org/) so that your device is free of all the nasty stock Google shit. Additional software can be found from F-Droid (https://f-droid.org/). There's nowhere near as much as you'd get in the "normal" Google store, but that's one of the prices you pay for safety.

Combine Firefox Mobile (https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/) with either uBlock Origin (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/) for plain adblocking, or uMatrix (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/) if you want a more complete web cleansing solution by basically forcing a whitelist into your browser.

(yes, I want a Librem 5, I've already placed my order)

Use this and get the best of both worlds: https://www.lineageos.org/

If Samsung won't come to the party, make sure your next phone supports Project Treble (should be any phone that shipped with Oreo, plus the original Pixels). That finally decouples the OS from the SoC drivers, and means any Treble phone can (theoretically) be upgraded with Google's own OS releases.

Which is why you can also get this Beta 2 release on third party phones like the Essential Phone, Nokia 7 Plus, OnePlus 6, Oppo R15 Pro, Sony Xperia XZ2, Vivo X21 & X21UD, and Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S, as well as Google's own Pixel series.

Failing all that, LineageOS will work well with your Samsung.

Just check this site. Anything that allows lineageos installed should be unlockable and acceptable to buy.
https://download.lineageos.org...
The best manufacturers in this regards are LG, Motorola and Samsung.

Not exactly.
LineageOs (and even Android in general) is not handled the same way as Ubuntu and Debian which I will get to in a second. The official ports are usually derived from creators building unofficial versions which then get adopted as official after a few months of running well, if the builder submits it.
https://wiki.lineageos.org/sub...

As for naming, this has to do with how Android is compiled vs how an normal OS is compiled. If you compile Ubuntu yourself you have Ubuntu, but Ubuntu works on lots of computers and has lots of drivers pre-installed. It's meant to be universal, unlike Android which is built on a per phone basis. While you use the same framework, you need to change the drivers and kernel a bit in order to make it work on each phone variant. This why it's a port and not a separate OS as you would find on Ubuntu vs Debian. A port is a port, a distro is a distro, it's not the same thing. Android is the OS, LineageOs is the distro, and your rom is a port of that distro.

As for support, because roms are built on a per phone basis, you are almost always directed to the rom builder who can better tell if the problem is on their end or the the main code base in general and then ramp it up the chain.

I don't think that the 2013 era Nexus 7's get security updates anymore ... Bummer too, because I really liked that tablet.

Here you go:

Wifi only - https://download.lineageos.org...
4g - https://download.lineageos.org...

I don't think that the 2013 era Nexus 7's get security updates anymore ... Bummer too, because I really liked that tablet.

Here you go:

Wifi only - https://download.lineageos.org...
4g - https://download.lineageos.org...

China's practices for using data are being used in large tech companies already and by our governments as well. These tools are basically the "all seeing eye" from Tolken and of course Orwell (other writers I'm sure). But this was also predicted by many movies and few noticed. Check out The Matrix, The Dark Night, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Spider-Man: Homecoming. The Circle talked about this more directly but less realistically. (The western government would never allow this monitoring on themselves anymore than the Russian or Chinese governments do). And China is not only tracking everyone through facial recognition glasses worn by police, not only are they keeping database with behavior scores to evaluate who is "disloyal" based on patterns (and past actions of course), but next month they are implementing a "Social Points" system to restrict access to travel for anyone who is considered disloyal based on that database and facial recognition. You are already required to show your ID card for virtually ANY transaction there now. (And is integrated in the WeChat Pay apps of course which is used widely).

If you are interested in stopping this abuse of data power, stop handing your data to them. Remove apps that are not open source (you can get open source apps for Android from F-Droid http://www.f-droid.org/ ). Install a firewall on your phone that can help manage what apps access (Droid Firewall is pretty good). Don't use default Google Android OS (you can't stop it from sending GPS data to them even if you turn it off...Google admitted this late last year, promising to stop using this hard wired phone home feature..sure..). LinageOS works on most Android phones. https://download.lineageos.org...)

Stop using MS Windows, especially Windows 8-10 because not only are data transmitters for every file header and website you visit, but every update Microsoft seems to take more control of the OS away from you (an idea probably borrowed from the iOS updates which did this years ago). You can't stop the auto updates unless you take extreme measures and even they don't work all the time and recently Microsoft is going to force your email links to be opened using Edge rather than your default browser selection. had enough being rammed with a broomstick handle yet by MS? Perhaps you noticed al this Xbox nonsense preinsstalled as well. Have fun reading this summary (see the data separately on other tech sites but this is a nice summary): https://itvision.altervista.or... . You can still buy Windows 7 legal licenses including from http://nerdsforless.com./ But better to just get off MS Windows. Linux can do virtually all the non-gaming things that MS Windows does (and MacOS as well). Linux Mint ( http://www.linuxmint.com/ ) is the easiest version of Linux for MS windows only users to get into. I've had kids as young as 7 years old run this with no assistance, and they all liked it MORE than MS Windows. "No crashes" I kept hearing. Using LibreOffice you can do all your office needs, (I've been on it for for 5 years and it keeps getting better), your favorite browsers (minus Edge but who uses that voluntarily these days) are all there, your email is easy peasy and will play all your videos and stuff. With no tracking from MS or the evil Cortana (that thing is horrible)

Keep any social media apps off your phone. Just...don't install them. You don't need them. Truth is anything that shares data over the web can be made as a mobile friendly website. The only reasons for an app is to take advantage of the data tracking tools on your phone and possibly install a local database there, generally for sending to a 3rd party later. That includes, GPS (in the vast majority of cases) and possibly accessing your contacts, browsing history, and let's not forget possibly your

But I am massively disappointed by the fact that Google have erased the Nexus line and expect me to jump up to a top-tier phone...

In Android land, you get the flexibility to pick a whole selection of devices with personal customization. But it also means you get quite the trade-off. Cheap and you get bloat and no-update or Google-tier and you get expensive hardware and get updates. Compare to iPhone land, iPhone only gives you one option, Apple-tier expensive hardware and get updates. After all, if you want updates you need to pay devs to update your device somehow.

Depend on your preference, picking an iPhone might be your easiest and best choice at providing you long update cycle. But if you really want your current Nexus 5X to last a little longer, you could spend some time to install a custom rom still supported after the end of support from either xda-developers or lineageOS. If you donation or pay the devs there, they will be encouraged to continue to support your device, keeping it up to date.

There's Android One but after reading their website I still can't figure out exactly what the hell it is.

What is Android One - tl;dr devices where manufacturers have committed to give clean android updates to the device. As for how long, it will be at least 1.5 years after device launch.

You can buy them by clicking on the devices at the website. If not, you could just copy the device name and ebay / amazon it to Australia. It's not that hard if you really want one. Not to mention, they are cheaper than Pixel phones.

Pixel phone on the other hand is still directly supported by Google and get 2-3 years at device launch (1-2 years remaining).

would u buy a phone from china?

Because OnePlus is one of the brands with the best support from https://lineageos.org/. I think the question is why would anyone use the original firmware?

Or, you could not install them at all, if you can do without

- network localization services, which means that you can only use the GPS for the positioning

- Google Cloud Messaging, so you won't receive any push notification for any app that relies on it

- the Maps API, which means that any app that uses Google Maps through the Maps API will probably crash

See the microg FAQ for more info.

The original CyanogenMod is dead. Try LineageOS instead: https://lineageos.org/

Not even that. https://wiki.lineageos.org/dev...

One of the most fundamental aspects of being a computer customer (this has little to do with being a "techie" though it helps a lot) is that eventually everyone learns that you never want to buy hardware, software, or services from the same company. Those are three companies, minimum. and you can't get it down to two without getting fucked over a bit. (And if you get it down to one, it'll approach garbage quality.)

Whenever there is a conflict of interest, the user needs to win, not lose, and keeping these three parties separate is the only way to do that. This isn't some new phone phenomenon; it's been going on for decades.

The reason that everyone's phone sucks, is that we buy them with preloaded OS and software. Worse, some people buy it, with the software, from their ISP so they're especially fucked.

It's unfortunate that there aren't any really good OSes for phones yet, but among the mainstream choices, Android is currently the right answer for nearly everyone. (Just don't get invested in it, because you'll always be hoping to jump ship if anything else comes along.)

If you agree with the above paragraph, then get LineageOS (an Android distro which doesn't contain things intended to fuck the user; you can't get something not-intended-to-fuck-the-user from Samsung etc). And once you've chosen the software, then you choose the hardware.

This won't get you the ideal phone, but it will get you the best phone that's available today.

Some of knew that virtually every app made by a commercial enterprise had trackers to extract data. This is why so much money has been spent on creating apps for phones instead of Phone friendly websites: you can get a LOT more data and have viewer options to block it. Otherwise it would be cheaper in development and maintenance to do a mobile friendly website. Data mining is the biggest business in the world right now and google is one of the leaders of this charge. Now, for those who WANT to get rid of this you can start by using an OS that doens't have google #$% apps preinstalled. LinageOS ( https://www.lineageos.org/ ) or Replicant OS (https://www.replicant.us/) as well as a phone that you can lock down microphones, cameras, and wireless that is linux based (https://puri.sm/) with no google spyware nonsense. If you have a more trusted on your Android compatible phone using LinageOS, CyanogenMod (old) or Replicant, you can get apps more trustworthy from FOSS using the F-Droid app (https://f-droid.org/). At least the apps are less likely to track you. Most don't ask for weird permissions like most commercial apps from, say the Google store tend to do. Hope that helps everyone remove the chains from their phones.

Anyone with an Android OS (and probably iOS for that matter). has limited if any true control on their phones. They are basically trojans to collect data from you. One can try to install Cyanogen or LineageOS
https://download.lineageos.org...

There is Also PureOS. Because it's not Google default you don't get the Google app #$%, but becuase they are derived from Android, it's not clear whether the tracking functionality is fully under your control or not. But at least the odds are better than pure Google Android, which, frankly, it's not surprise they have little "gems" in data collection they make it impossible for you to turn of..like Microsoft Updates in Windows 8/10. (Anyone using these OS's cannot turn off a lot of the data collection or updates there either)

Flagship phones from companies like Samsung push updates that install apps you can't remove. At least Apple only bundles their own apps you can't remove (easily).

You can install LineageOS on most Samsung phones. Why would you allow them to push updates like that to a device that goes around with you everywhere?

How do you expand that built in 32 GB storage? Would a hammer be enough or does one need powertools or corrosive chemicals?

It's called an SD-Card slot, an SD card is a memory card that allows you to expand the phone's available storage. Quite some time ago Android added the ability for applications to be installed on SD cards as well. Buying a phone that gives you this option of adding storage (or even better one that is supported by alternative OS distributions) is a way of "voting with your wallet". There is a vibrant and active community working to solve exactly the problem you are complaining about so support them by helping to write documentation, code or donating money.

Exactly what is your proposed solution? Or are you just here to suggest that everything is hopeless?

One of their phones and three of their tablets are supported by LineageOS. At this point, I've given up on first-party support from any Android vendor. None of them support the software for anything like the lifetime of the hardware, so if if you don't want it to die prematurely then third-party support is the only thing that matters.

And with the current situation where the users of a device is prevented from doing the changes they like to their devices including downgrading the OS the interest in Android goes down.

It's a sour situation right now when you aren't in control of the device you have bought. I can understand that there may be some constraints to at least prevent malware but the owner of the device shall be able to be in control of the device and not risk it being bricked.

A major reason for having more control over your device is to get rid of bloatware that the manufacturers have a habit of installing. Some bloatware is also a security risk for various reasons.

Only buy a phone that's supported by LineageOS. Then you get updated builds every Thursday. My phone, a Oneplus 2, only officially has Marshmallow. Thanks to LineageOS, I'm running Nougat. It's also more responsive, I get better battery life and I only had to install the bare minimum of Google apps needed for Play (mostly use APKUpdater and F-Droid anyway). Then I just root it with Magisk and still pass SafetyNet (I only care about Pokemon Go).

TL;DR: buy a LineageOS supported phone or an iPhone if you want regular updates.

My mobile phone is a Moto G. It's a cheap piece of crap that I bought 3 years ago when Motorola was owned by Google and was expecting to get long-term support. Google sold Motorola shortly after. It got major updates for about a year and then security patches (often months after the vulnerability was publicly disclosed) for about another year. That sounds a lot worse than the Apple option, but there's a big difference: I can go over to LineageOS and get a version of Android that's based on the latest version.

Lucky you don't have a Moto Maxx (only unofficial support for over 6 months now) or even a Moto M ("Boot it at your own risk as flashing Lineage OS for Motorola Moto M is not safe" . "we strongly recommend not to install Lineage OS for Motorola Moto M")

Apple supports its devices far longer than anyone else does. It seems silly to complain about Appleâ(TM)s upgrade cycle when many Android devices donâ(TM)t get more than 1-2 major OS releases.

Apple has better first-party support, but once they stop shipping security updates then the device is a brick. Actually, it's worse: it's a network-enabled device with known remotely exploitable vulnerabilities that can be used as an entry point for attacking the rest of your network.

My mobile phone is a Moto G. It's a cheap piece of crap that I bought 3 years ago when Motorola was owned by Google and was expecting to get long-term support. Google sold Motorola shortly after. It got major updates for about a year and then security patches (often months after the vulnerability was publicly disclosed) for about another year. That sounds a lot worse than the Apple option, but there's a big difference: I can go over to LineageOS and get a version of Android that's based on the latest version.

The same is true with an old Mac: once it stops getting macOS updates, I can always install FreeBSD or something else on it. With an iOS device, the bootloader is locked and remains locked even when all it's doing is locking you to a known-insecure OS.

Cellphones become obsolete due to software

You left out an very important factor here. Mobile phone software become obsolete because the manufacturer does not bother to update it any longer. If however you are able to repair it yourself by updating the software this would then be less of a problem. And in fact this is the case, I am running the very latest Android 7.1 release though LineageOS on a older tablet.

This is where such a law would works, BUT, it would make those handset much more expensive: the software development costs would skyrocket, and as such the handset makers will have to charge more.

...

In summary: a law like this will ensure that your devices will double or triple in price.

You seem to have little knowledge of software development. How much expensive do you think phones become by making the bootloader unlockable and providing some basic device configuration information?

Take a step back and consider the role of politicians in the society.

Should politicians set minimum requirements for safety on products instead of just letting the companies themselves decide how safe they want to make their products? Yes, of course. Even if it could make some products more expensive? Yes.

Should politicians set minimum requirements for energy efficiency on products (e.g. cars/vacuum cleaners) instead of just letting the companies themselves decide how efficient they want to make their products? Yes, of course. Even if it could make some products more expensive? Yes.

Should politicians set minimum requirements for repairability on products instead of just letting the companies themselves decide how easy to repair (if at all!) they want to make their products? Yes, of course. Even if it could make some products more expensive? Yes.

Yes I can. My phone runs LineageOS.

https://lineageos.org/

It is AOSP (Android Open Source Project) based, so it is genuine android OS-- What makes it different? It does not have carrier-mandated bloatware baked in, *AND* is functional *WITHOUT GOOGLE APPS*. In fact, the installed base package does not have google apps installed at all!!

That means that if one so wishes, they can sideload the Amazon app store, and give google the finger, in totality.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/...

So YES, AC-- I *WILL* argue that-- because *YOU CAN*. iDevices? Shit no. Apple does not give out the source code, and does not allow custom compiled phone images to be created by anyone other than their internal development teams. You will never see a custom built iOS the way you will find projects like LineageOS.

See https://www.lineageos.org/ which has nightly builds of current Android for, among many others, a 6 year old phone (Samsung Galaxy S2).

Yes, software *is* an issue and I would indeed very much like more open hardware (so that all the necessary drivers were in mainline Linux and not a bunch of stupid binary blobs), but it is possible to keep an old phone alive if what it did upon release (eg. don't need massive screen resolution, a zillion cores or fancy 3D acceleration) is enough for you.

See if you can update it yourself: https://www.lineageos.org/

For first party support, yes. For third-party support, no. I have a first-generation Moto G (yes, I am a cheapskate). It was released in 2013 and I bought it in March 2014. Google spun off the bit of Motorola that they owned shortly after that and it got OS updates to Android 5.1.1 (released November 2014, available for the Moto G some time in early 2015) and then (horribly late) security updates for another year. The last security update for it was early 2016 and fixing a couple of high-profile vulnerabilities took Motorola about 4-6 months each. That's a pretty piss-poor support track record. That said, it now runs LineageOS and gets frequent and regular updates and is running Android 7.1.2.

If I'd bought an iPhone released at about the same time, it would have been a 5S or 5C and would have been updated until iOS 10. I'd have received first-party OS support until earlier this year and security back-ports probably for another year, but at the end of that I'd have a device that no one could provide third-party support for and which would be effectively worthless.

You might want to consider flashing LineageOS if its an old Android smartphone. Bang up to date with the latest Android versions and security patchlevel. I'm in a similar situation where my phone and tablet are way too old for official updates, the hardware is good and I see no reason to throw away something that works. What I now have thanks to LineageOS is something more up to date than the expensive tat my friends buy, and with no bloatware, still faster for day to day use.

Do these users pay for it? No. Red Hat makes money and reinvests in Linux. Red Hat matters most, Canonical matters second, SuSE matters least. All others are just freeloaders whose opinions and usage don't matter. Proof: SystemD.

Without slackware there would be no RedHat. This was the distribution which took SLS and gave proof that, to have success you have to have a completely free Free distribution. All the distros add together and allow success. It's true that most code comes from professionals and that without them much FOSS base work would never get done, but the death of cyangenmod shows the risk there would be if everything was professional and the arrival of LineageOS builds shows how the volunteers are crucial for some areas the professionals won't go.

We need variety in the FOSS world.

I have Cyanogen on two devices, and I will ALWAYS have a custom ROM just to eliminate all the damn bloatware. If there are programs on a new device that I can't uninstall without rooting (and there always are) it's time for a reflashing.

I gave up on Cyanogenmod when Cyanogen went all Microsoft. Not so much because the mod went bad as I started to lose in anybody who cooperates with Microsoft. It's sad to be proven right again, but I'm glad Lineage managed to break away so it's good in the long term. The parent is right. The stock ROM, even when it's almost plain Android on a Nexus device, is ultra-frustrating. You miss so much customisation. I will be back on a custom ROM the minute LineageOS gets up to speed. I paid the extra for a Nexus only because I knew Cyanogen would run on it properly. I will only be buying devices I know Lineage works on.

https://review.lineageos.org/#...

That is heartening.

Work indeed continues.

http://lineageos.org/Yes-this-...

http://lineageos.org/Yes-this-...

They've already announced a fork of the project. It's called Lineage OS:

Tagline "Yes, this is us. We aren't going anywhere."
http://lineageos.org/