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No it doesn't - it's optical too... now the MX1000, G5 and G7 are indeed laser mice...

No it doesn't - it's optical too... now the MX1000, G5 and G7 are indeed laser mice...

Logitech MX700 Cordless laser mouse.
Logitech G7 Cordless laser mouse.
Logitech G5 laser mouse.

I don't know of others :)

Logitech MX700 Cordless laser mouse.
Logitech G7 Cordless laser mouse.
Logitech G5 laser mouse.

I don't know of others :)

Logitech MX700 Cordless laser mouse.
Logitech G7 Cordless laser mouse.
Logitech G5 laser mouse.

I don't know of others :)

Thumbs just aren't as agile as an entire hand.

How about your first two fingers, then? I've loved the two of those I've had for a few years now (only got a second one when we got a second computer), and they're actually great for FPS games. Only problem I've had is that I can't draw at all with it in Photoshop.

The G5 is obviously styled to go with the G5.

I agree about the thumb buttons. I have an old Logitech M-BA47 from around 2000. It has a nice thumb button right where I rest my thumb (i.e low). When I first hooked it up, XFree86 mapped it as another middle button. I was happy with that so I never looked into changing it. It works great for me under Linux. Pasting text or opening links in new tabs is a matter of simply pressing with my thumb. And I never liked pressing down on the mouse wheel because it can turn unless you're careful about applying the pressure (or at least that's what I'm thinking about whenever I have to do it on other mice). Pressing the thumb button is so much easier.

Then earlier this year, my mum took pity on me still using a non-optical mouse and got me a Logitech MX500 mouse. Bleh. For a start, I had to hunt around a lot of web pages to figure out how to map the buttons the way I like. Then I realised the stupidity of having two (not one) thumb buttons, making them thin, and placing them up on the rim of the mouse. So now I not only had to move my thumb, I had to be careful to hit the right one, and I had to apply more pressure because they were much smaller. Think about it, the left and right mouse buttons are nice big pads you can rest your fingers on, so why make the other buttons so small and hard to hit?

And to top it off, the optical sensor simply didn't work on my black laminated desktop. I know, I could get a mouse pad. But it would get in the way and I've gotten used to having my mouse glide across the surface. So I gave it to my brother and went back to my trusty old non-optical mouse with the better thumb button. He doesn't need the middle mouse button nearly as much in windows. He also needed a mouse pad though :P

Oops, sorry, I should have included a link to the press release on this amazing new technology.

Belkin's Nostromo SpeedPad n52 on the left hand, Logitech's G7 mouse on the right hand, serious frag death for my opponents....

G15 Keyboard
G7 Mouse
G5 mouse

G15 Keyboard
G7 Mouse
G5 mouse

G15 Keyboard
G7 Mouse
G5 mouse

• G15 Gaming Keyboard
• G7 Laser Cordless Mouse
• G5 Laser Mouse

• G15 Gaming Keyboard
• G7 Laser Cordless Mouse
• G5 Laser Mouse

• G15 Gaming Keyboard
• G7 Laser Cordless Mouse
• G5 Laser Mouse

Pictures of the g5 mouse

And guess what, it's shaped for right handers only. You'd think that it'd be possible to invert the casing, and produce a mirrored device for the 15-20% or so of the target market who can't use a right-handed gaming mouse. (I can handle it for general use, but I need my primary hand for precision work)

Still, looks like I'll be buying the new razer copperhead when it comes out shortly, similar features but suitable for lefties.

Here's a link to the rest of the product line:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/product list/US/EN,crid=2287&categoryid=10

The story of a keyboard is fine, but pictures are worth more. See the G15 keyboard here.

Try doing any of that with pen and paper,

no problem. I do it daily here at work. Although they flit the bill for the special paper my digital pen writes on. Logitech IO2 works great, although their origional IO sucked horribly.

works absolutely great, and if your handwriting sucks I strongly suggest taking penmanship classes, you are going to law school not medical school.

Bad handwriting is a sign of lazyness. someone who will not take the time to have legible handwriting. and yes kiddies, you will need to write things in the real world, you cant sms,email or im everything.

You're looking for this:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details harmony/US/EN,CRID=2084,CONTENTID=9933&ad=AMR_H880 HPB

Logitech Harmony remote, you describe your setup to it, and it turns everything on or off, switches the inputs, etc. for everything. This thing even controls my lights and air conditioner. I literally eliminated EVERY SINGLE IR REMOTE in my entire house (like, 15 of them).

Even my 2 year old can use it to switch from my Dish PVR to the DVD player, including changing the source on the TV and changing the input on the amplifier from Optical to Digital Coax.

What more can anyone ask for?

-DF

what's your favorite keyboard?

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details /US/EN,CRID=2158,CONTENTID=7153

I bought mine before they became bluetooth only. Totally normal layout for the f keys and home page up etc... extra buttons that actually are useful like volume and a scroll wheel and the other extra buttons that I don't use out of the way. Most important is the recharge base for the mouse... very very very handy.

Logitech has a couple of split wireless keyboards that look interesting too.. been keeping my eyes peeled for them.

I personally love the Logitech DiNivo slim keyboard. DiNivo
Granted it's sans-numeric pad; the numeric-pad is seperate from the main keyboard and acts as a great remote control from other locations in the room...

just my 2 cents..

Actually, Logitech sells them for $79. I mean, I'm sure you can search and find a deal on them at some web-site, but suggesting that you can buy them for $41 everywhere is misleading. Some would even call that a "lie". Ahem...

Have either one of you used the Logitech MX518? If so, is it worth it?

I'll stick to my Logitech MX518 thank you very much.

You're missing the context of the first two sentences and hence the implied dig at reality: the multibutton mouse as the norm for other platforms has led to to a certain amount of laziness in UI design and some very unintuitive and inelegant bits of UI design (e.g. the Athena scrollbar, the way Windows uses right-click-hold, etc.) which has fed back into a standard of at least 2 buttons and a creeping arms race in mice buttons with abominations like the Logitech mice and trackballs that have 6, 7, or 8 buttons and need their own documentation and configuration software to use effectively. Apple and others have argued for a long time that the single button mouse as a norm forces UI designers to think more carefully about what they are doing.

If you look at prominent examples of GUI platforms with regards to their accessibility for new users and the general level of application UI design quality, there is some evidence for that view. CDE/Motif, which was built for systems with 3 full-fledged buttons, has had about a decade of uniformly clunky and unintuiitive applications and a desktop that most of its users never really learn. KDE and GNOME are marginally better and grew out of a user community where that third button was not always present or was inferior to the first two (i.e. a clickable scroll wheel.) Windows and its apps tend to be another step up, because it started with 2 buttons. MacOS has always had just the one click (plus the very second-class modifier-key-click combos) and that has forced an economy of UI design on Apple and on application developers.

That said, I think Apple is giving in to the inevitable here. Even if it is slightly harder to teach and even if it leads to a little less economy of UI design, the market has settled on a rough de facto consensus of 2 first-class buttons and one or more second-class buttons on one-handed pointing devices. Application designers don't want to be restricted to single buttons any more than poets want to be required to write perfect sonnets, heroic couplets, haiku, or limmericks.

no tactile feedback? no forward/back buttons? still the same flat, non-ergonomic, non-hand-filling design? no thanks! I'll take a Logitech MX900 over this overdesigned piece of crap any day.

The tactile feedback thing is what really kills me. Audio feedback (a built in speaker to make clicking sound? WTF!?) is NOT as good as tactile feedback. This is also why original the physically moving scroll wheel on the original iPod was sooooooooo much better.

That's using Logitech Mouseware. It keeps separate profiles for each user and has some support for non-Logitech devices, but they are mostly treated as standard two button mice.

Mac OS X in no way prevents you from using a multi-button mouse . If you're still not convinced, go to Logitech and check out their Logitech Control Center for OS 8, 9, or X.

It's not our fault you prefer the never-changing BSD and the 1-button MAC mouse.

Weird, my MAC didn't even come with a mouse.

Oh, you mean my Macintosh? I don't use the bundled mouse, nor do I use the mouse that came with my Dell at work. Instead I use a pair of Logitech MX-1000 mice.

Don't hold your breath. If "classic" keyboard like Logitech diNovo costs like 250$ (or 250EUR in Europe)...

Off topic, and not quite what you asked for, but if you haven't settled on a remote control for your setup yet, I just picked up Logitech's Harmony 880 and it is fantastic. I know I sound like a commercial (and no, I'm not affiliated with Logitech), but the Harmony is really the best thing I've found on the market for controlling a high-end system. There are LCD-only remotes that allow you to customize the button layout more than the Harmony, but I found that having to hunt for a button everytime I needed to press it is not as easy as finding most of the buttons by feel. The price is high (US $250), but other model Harmony remotes are cheaper if your budget is tight. The list of devices that it can control is impressive (create a test login at Logitech's Harmony site to see if the components you have/are getting are already supported) and their customer service has been excellent so far. Be sure to check out the forums at Remote Central for discussion on the Harmony and other high-end remotes. And trust me, you won't be truly happy with your system until you can easily control it the way that you want.

that would be so sweet! everyone's been wanting to have wireless headphones with their ipod. although logitech has come out with an excellent product:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details /US/EN,CRID=2439,CONTENTID=10540
(i like how it even has a remote control on the headphones)

the $150 price tag is quite hefty.

with bluetooth, we're now open to any bluetooth headphones accessible!

I recently discovered some very interesting things about wireless keyboards:

This used to be IBM's wireless keyboard version. Now Lenovo's.
http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/P roductDisplay?catalogId=-840&langId=-1&partNumber= 73P4067&storeId=10000001
Here is a small picture (sorry, finding large pictures of this keyboard is HARD. )
http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/C ategoryDisplay?catalogId=-840&storeId=10000001&lan gId=-1&dualCurrId=1000073&categoryId=2581898

This keyboard has a range of 10 meters ( 30' ). It's neat and cool looking, the same price as those 8' range keyboards and the 7 top keys are fully programmable ( including macro commands )

And as an unexpected bonus, my wireless 8' logitech mouse now works at 20' with both bases plugged.
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details /US/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=9340

With two mice and 1 keyboard... this DX1 sure sound nice. But for half the price I got almost as good were functionnality is concerned. ( not including the logitech mouse... )

I've been using a Logitech Digital Pen for a while now. I'm pretty happy with the compromise between a real pad and having a digital copy of what I wrote. The recording made by the pen is of excellent quality. Feel free to check it out.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details /US/EN,CRID=3,CONTENTID=9508

OK, so Bluetooth might count...

MIGHT count? Hello, that's exactly what BT was designed for - low power consumption for wireless, low bandwidth devices. If you need a BT mouse, it doesn't get much better than a MX900 (which you can use WITHOUT the BT hub they give you). Otherwise,there are a ton of BT mice out there in varying sizes depending on your needs.

The logitech site says MSRP $69.95 http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details /US/EN,CRID=2135,CONTENTID=9508

Bluetooth is pretty much the same thing, but with a full protocol built on top of the wireless. It's overkill for a mouse, since having a bluetooth mouse would mean giving it the bluetooth equivalent of a MAC address.

That said, there are bluetooth mice out there, just in case somebody would want to navigate their bluetooth headset and bluetooth phone with it too.

They are available. Why they are not more wide-spread? I don't know.

Something like this?

I have only a few complaints:

1. No middle-click, no third button
2. No ergonomic feel to the mouse. I don't want my mouse to feel like a travel "soap dish" when I'm using it all day long.
3. 2 AAA batteries? Have we really de-evolved back into the mid-90's again?
4. Eats a USB port, when my laptop has onboard 802.11x and Bluetooth

Nope, this one will definately not be going into my travel bag. I'll stick with my Logitech MX1000 even though 2/3 of the buttons are useless under Linux.

Here's the link at Logitech

Logitech also has a tilt wheel.

Here is a link to the Logitech page about this mouse:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details /US/EN,CRID=2146,CONTENTID=9508

It doesn't even look like a touchscreen 'scroll' panel as much as a flat button with up, down, left, right capabilities.

They've got a flash online demo of sorts to check out to see how it works. Doesn't even look as "fancy" as the Kensington touchpad mouse people have mentioned.

Here!

Try Logitech's site if you want a mirror/pictures.

DICK. GOOGLE ASSHOLE
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details /US/EN,CRID=3,CONTENTID=9508

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details /US/EN,CRID=3,CONTENTID=9508