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The four different desktop machines (well, 3 dt and one laptop) in this household all run Mandrake Linux. Sound worked on all of them OOTB. Only this desktop has a special sound card (Yamaha 744), the rest are Intel or PC'97. Everything shares sound nicely through artsd.

Occasionally the Flash plugin goes wild, but VeryNice fixes that automagically after a few minutes (and later Konquerors also offer to fix it for you on the spot if set to do so).

OTOH my book-keeper plugged a Win2k-based laptop into his LAN yesterday, and after much farting around (nothing as neat as MCC here) finally managed to get the internal firewalling shut down, and Norton's internet security thing, and the laptop still won't read the shares on the one (98SE) machine he wants it to, and nor will any of the other machines (98SE, 95, XP) read the laptop - but Samba reads it just fine, both the old version on the gateway and the new version on his LOB server. None of the other machines have any problems with each other (including Samba, both ways). Yes, the workgroup, authentication etc are all correct and consistent. Yes, he did reboot them all. The laptop is happy to talk to the chosen machine using WinSCP and the CygWin SSH server.

That's my definition of "difficult to understand". And so much of Windows is like that. Case in point: all of the network settings for Win2k are in the network control panel - except for the machine identity, which is part of the properties on My [Bill's] Computer.

People only think it's normal because they're used to it. Linux is not difficult, just different.

...have well-written, comprehensive, low-level instructions for building packages properly, but it's nice to see a well-written piece which is a bit more "meta" and general than that as well.

The instructions even work with their "Stoned Penguin" LoopyEdition2005 release. (-:

Mandrake is still an EU company though, and doing rather well lately. Any reduction of the MS presence in Europe would be a very welcome development for them.

...Right.

Nobody actually financially benefits from open source.

I'm sorry, I guess I didn't quite catch what you meant. Run that by me again?

so a free product's revenue is up 35%. That's good news.

Umm... dude... Not all Linux is free.

Yes, I realize these are all "Enterprise" or "Proffesional" versions. But they are the ones designed for running high demand servers.

Facts, please.

Mandrake club is currently less than or equal to 28% of their revenue, not the 80% you claim. From their latest quarterly summary:

Product sales amounted to 51% of revenues, enterprise services 21% and online sales and services 28%.

So you're dead wrong about where their money comes from.

Also, your numbers are slightly off. According to that same report, Mandrake is worth about 40 million euros (market value); that's about 50 million USD. Sure, they're not the size of RedHat but that's one of the reasons I like them.

I don't know where you got the loss figure from but I bought the stock at 2.1 euros. On 4 August 2004, it was 2.39 Euros. It is now 7.60 Euros. Unless Canadian math is different than American math, that's a 317% growth in the period from August 2004 to February 2005. Overall, that's a growh of about 361%. That's not a bad return over the 2.5 years that I've owned the stock

Representing your opinion and numbers you pull out of your ass as fact is embarassing when people call you on it, eh? ;-)

And oh, by the way, I happen to like M. LeMarois. He's always been cordial and straightforward in my dealings with him and he seems to have a good idea of where the company should be headed. That, of course, is just my opinion.

RPM is just doing its job, detecting a failed dependency.

If A.rpm depends on B.rpm, and B.rpm depends on A.rpm, you can install neither A nor B. That is not a failed dependency. That's a fucked up package management system. When I stopped using RPM, I never had to worry about that again.

There's nothing that says a modern package management system has to be wrapped up in a single tool, in this case RPM.

Well, nothing except, say all your competition. But you want to ignore that? Fine. Try this on for size...

Gentoo has never once stomped on a config file. It's package management system includes etc-update, a tool for merging changes in config files when you updated packages. with RPM, you have to hope and pray whoever put the RPM together wouldn't stomp your config files.

Microsoft has released several new updates to address your concerns.

No distributor wants to touch a game that is available online cheaper (or even at same price, but 'easier').

Your right. That business model is so flawed. No business would survive if they allowed their customers to download (for free) essentially the same thing they were trying to sell.
</sarcasm>

I forgot to mention the newly released Mandrakelinux Corporate Desktop which looks very promising as a client OS for businesses. It's also very affordable ($109 with one-year 24x7 support).

Microsoft persist in asserting that MSIE is part of the OS, so I see nothing wrong with counting its vulnerabilities as part of the OS's. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, after all. And their dotNYET implementation is even more tightly bound to the OS than their "I-do-colour-management-on-images-with-no-ICC*" browser.

For a more realistic comparison, pick one browser, one email client, one database, one MTA, one webserver, one nameserver, one office suite, one media player, one proxy for Linux and compare just those.

I usually use Konqueror, KMail, PostgreSQL, PostFix, Apache2, BIND, OpenOffice, MPlayer and Squid. In Linux land, the web-server and name-server in particular are not noted for their security, yet I can run both of them chrooted (BIND is set to do this by default), which is not possible with IIS or MS-Proxy.

Filter your terrible Linux stats through those, and you'll get something like a reasonable comparison of a fully loaded MS machine (server and workstation in one) versus a typical Linux machine (ditto).

The machine I'm facing saw four vulnerabilities in the time-slice touted by the GPP, two of them remote or remoteable, and that's unusually bad. Harking back to the distribution running on this machine I count 9 vulnerabilities in that package set (plus CUPS and X11, which are kinda-sorta built in to Windoze in a limited way) since last year, an average of one every four days. Most of those 9 are extremely difficult to exploit and several of them are "dupes" in that they're several packages recompiled to close a vulnerability in a common library, so three for four reports might really be one vulnerability. December was also very heavy with 14 fixes; November is more typical and saw 5, of which 3 were one (libXpm) vulnerability and one was a DoS rather than an intrusion.

re: the first one http://www.levenez.com/lang/history.html it is BASIC, not Basic. Also, there was MS-BASIC, GW-BASIC, BASICA, Apple BASIC, MS QBASIC, MS QuickBasic, QuickBasic Extended/PDS. Also, they list JScript, and not VBScript; PHP and not ASP. Also, this one is missing Rexx. http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~prigaux/language-s tudy/diagram.pdf seems to have some data that is off to the right of the page, including what appears to say "PostScript".

There seem to be a few errors with both charts. For instance, the pdf diagram shows JavaScript to be directly influenced by only Java, while the Éric Lévénez's history shows links from both C++ and C. However, JavaScript was actually designed to be Self in C's clothing. Some features of LISP and other object-functional languages also influenced it's design. I wonder how the links in these charts were determined.

• Snobol, which didn't spread much, but eventually merged with a Fortran derivative to beget Perl.
• Flowmatic, which became Cobol, then Rexx.
• Fortran 1, which became pretty much everything else, via Algol. This is the main part of the main stream.
• Lisp, the other main stream, which joined with Fortran to make Scheme, and joined with it again to make Dylan.
• Prolog, which joined up with Lisp
• APL, which continues today (unlike Snobol) and has some recognizable descendants (unlike Snobol and Flowmatic).
• ISWIM and
• ML which are the only ones that I'd never heard of before, though I recognize their descendants Haskel and Camel.

There are two main streams, Snobol/Flowmatic/Fortran and Lisp/Prolog. There isn't much communication between them. Their two points of convergence, Scheme and Dylan, so far show no signs of spawning the sort of tree of descendants which sprung from their ancestors, Fortran and Lisp.

ISWIM/ML and APL have almost no communication with either of the mainstreams. Chopping either of them out of the picture would leave few orphaned hybrids.

All those languages from just seven big ideas.

In year 1999 MandrakeSoft was profitable and making money. Then, some investors (read: banks) decided that Mandrake needed a new set of bosses. So they hired a "team" of guys who were "experts" in "high tech business". That team started burning cash like crazy, signed pre-dot-bomb contracts with dobious companies, decided taht Linux was not the business direction (and tried to go to the e-learning route) and over-sized the number of MandrakeSoft workers.

In a few time, things were going very bad (loosing money, very expensive contracts, e-learning was a flop... and they were sacked by the original Mandrake founders.

They asked "bankrupcy protection" (which is different from "bankrupcy") and in a little over a year, they turned down the company, putting it back into the Linux business, firing all those "Experts" and unnecesary personnel, terminated those expensive contracts... and MandrakeSoft went back to normal, that is, Linux and making money.

MandrakeSoft exited "bankrupcy protection" in less time than expected (only 14 months, in the middle of a bad economical cycle) and went straight into positive cashflow. Then, MandrakeSoft started to be publicily traded. And all is good.

See the figures yourself.

So you see, your opinion was not complete nor well informed. And Mandrake, as it did when it started, can generate money no problem.

Peace

What, like this?....

http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/globetrotter

It seems, to Linux user, that trolls are stupid.

If you can't get your head around a software manager like this, you should probably just give up on computers altogether.

Yes, Mandrake is pretty good:
* Mandrake is Linux, as it is as stable as all other Linux distros
* includes recent versions of software
* easy administration: point-and-click interfaces (with text versions using ncurses) plus the classic ssh + vi + /etc
* company commited to GPL Mandrake golden rules
* LSB-compliant (Linux Standard Base)
* The company is making money (the company will be here for a long time)
* 2 main versions
- regular version (including gratis download edition)
- corporate edition (including support 24x7 and all that jazz)
And, oh, yeah, Mandrake has a native apt-get like tool called urpmi, with both GUI and text interfaces.
Peace

Of course this is completely secure from malicious software on the host machine.

One potater, two potater, three potater four. All as healthy and mature as any linux distribution, but it's not like most would ever buy a Mac just to run linux.

Unless this is another of those "just cause I can" things. :-)

The press release on their site.

...

"As the amount of Open Source software grows, so does the problem of complexity." Ahhh, the days of theoretical computer science - big O notation bah blah blah...

Mandrake is using this program to improve their boot times.

This link has some examples of the graphics produced by this program. mandrake

If you search around in the Google Cache, you can find a link to a Mandrake Wiki that has several bootchart images.

- Tash

wow, you mis-read that article bad.

Free engineering from a large community. Thats what the buisnesspeople want out of open source
It's the same guy that made Snort to begin with, and he's still contributing/leading the development of the software.

And the profit comes from making the interface.
Umm well, where to begin, lets start right over here where we see it's not just a front end, but hardware to run the application as well. Oh and look, they have other things that don't use snort, or other OSS projects that he created himself. Next you're going to tell me that MandrakeSoft is evil because when I was on dialup I bought Linux Mandrake 7.1 instead of downloading it. (My first venture into linux BTW) and Red Hat must be evil from profiting on there front end of the Linux Kernel as well.... [/rant]

I've had great luck with MandrakeMove
love the idea of sending the live cd with the card.
the real question is whether having them use a live linux cd will reduce the ammount of in home tech support you'll be doing for your familie's new windows based computers,
or
just create the need for more house calls to learn the new system?
in short... is livecd(headache;) less than or == windows(headache;) ??

You can also go here:

http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n =/mandrakesoft/actions/2522

and here:

http://www.mandrakesoft.com/lcc/faq

You can also go here:

http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n =/mandrakesoft/actions/2522

and here:

http://www.mandrakesoft.com/lcc/faq

Is available in the PR and in the FAQ.

It's interesting to notice the differences with UnitedLinux. LCC is not to push one Linux Standard, but to push the Linux standard (LSB).

Is available in the PR and in the FAQ.

It's interesting to notice the differences with UnitedLinux. LCC is not to push one Linux Standard, but to push the Linux standard (LSB).

Yes, that's right - the lot of you just keep repeating to yourselves "there's nothing wrong here - it's always the user's fault when a distribution breaks during an OOTB install..."

I would remind you this attitude of zealotry is what's prevented linux from completely overtaking microsoft until now, but I'm sure you won't care since "linux doesn't need more users."

That's OK too - like I said: I've left mandrake in the dust and don't care to look back. You lot enjoy your circle jerk and keep buying plenty of that french whine!

http://store.mandrakesoft.com/product_info.php?pro ducts_id=114&osCsid=c4be63d81209f5c1b11ae41163676d 43 those things are selling like hotcakes. On a more serious note I think its wonderful that I may finally be able to convince the IT dep at my place to ditch redhat enterprise.

I will start by admitting that I am just a dumb university student talking out my ass. I have never set up an enterprise scale cluster.

However, last january we set up a small (six node) cluster with the help of CLIC. Once we realized the link between a Mandrake and consective dead CD drives, we installed the cluster in little time.

CLIC might focus a little too much on userfriendlyness and a little too little on flexibility, but for our purposes it was great. It sports ganglia, gexec, distcc and MPI (and probably more), and administration and deployment of nodes is a breeze.

I heartily recommend CLIC for student/test/proof-of-concept projects.

Switch it for a Mandrake Move CD. (-:

Last time I checked you can't write to a CD-ROM, so you'd need a USB key anyway to store your settings. Otherwise you're starting from scratch every time you boot up. Assuming this MP3 thing is writable, it's more like MandrakeMove where you can take your settings and your entire OS from one computer to another. It's not just meant to be a rescue disk. It's more like Knoppix plus a USB key. Those of us who need rescue disks can build them ourselves.

Obviously this device isn't meant for you. That doesn't mean it has no purpose or shouldn't be marketed at all. Don't like it? Don't buy it. Hurray, capitalistic freedom of choice. I'll never understand why it is that when people don't see a need for something in their personal life, they consistently take the attitude that the object or technology in question is pointless and shouldn't even exist. THAT, is what I don't "get". Seems like these kind of posts are all over the place every time a new technology or piece of hardware or software comes out. It's a big world, why can't you just let people do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt you? Why tell the rest of us that there's a "limit" just because you can't see the point? Why does there need to be a point? I'm sure you'd be similarly annoyed by people saying they don't see the point of rescue disks and why should anyone bother, blah blah blah, etc.

More on-topic, I can't wait to see more FireWire flash drives and keys. Imagine a FireWire compactflash card reader with an 8GB microdrive in it... You could partition it and install Mac OS X, Linux, Linux PPC, and Windows and be able to boot at least one of those on any modern desktop computer. Of course Windows is the least portable of the bunch, and the least compatible with the other filesystems. Might as well not even bother. But you would probably need a FAT32 partition to exchange data between HFS+ and your chosen filesystem on the Linux partition(s). I don't know that for a fact though, maybe Mac OS X can read Ext2/3 and others.

Damn, that would be interesting. Anybody know if it's actually possible to boot multiple operating systems from one FireWire drive? You could boot to a boot manager but can the boot manager then load the OS, or will a special boot manager need to be created for FireWire drives? And then of course there's the mixing of Mac and PC operating systems on the same disk. The file systems can coexist fine, but can they all be booted from the same drive? I think the boot mechanisms are vastly different between the Mac and PC platforms. Are the differences insurmountable?

Of course with the easy daisy-chainability of FireWire (without any massive performance penalty) you could always have one Mac drive and another PC drive and just hook them together after you boot up the main one. Seems like that would work rather well. And if you get a portable jobber it will even be powered by the FireWire bus. Damn, Lacie has portable combo FireWire/USB drives now up to 100GB, with a 60GB version at 7200RPM...

Whelp, looks like I just talked my bad self into a new pet project. Goodbye paycheck!

You could adapt your OS to work, or, better still, thanks to the power of Google, I have found that MandrakeSoft sell a ready-made package including LaCie 40 GB drive with a modified Mandrake 10 installed, manual, support, &c called a Globetrotter

Several supported Linuxes run on Macs. Yellow Dog Linux 4.0 just shipped.

Ubuntu is shipping PPC in its upcoming 4.1 release, and has PPC ISOs as recent as last month.

Mandrake and Suse have downlevel versions for PPC.

For a more complete, albeit sometimes inaccurate, list of what Linuxes run on what hardware, visit Linux.org's distribution page.

I know what you mean. I'm 15, I took a while to work it all out.

I read "Teach Yourself TCP/IP in 24 Hours", which worked fairly well for me, and directed me towards the appropriate *nix utilities, as well as Windows.

If you haven't already tried it, have a go with Linux. Maybe start with Knoppix and then move to Mandrake or Fedora. And then, if you're feeling adventurous, try Gentoo.

Setting up with Linux taught me more about working with computers than anything else.

Experience is better than any book that I've read.

Superglue + Ethernet port = No shit happens

But to be completely honest, I am a student myself, and I get completely pissed off by all the security measures at my school. Sure, it stopped/made it harder to do things such as what your trying to stop, but ultimately if you try hard enough, anythings possible. Ever heard of Mandrake Move?

At my school they disabled right clicking. It seriously impares one of my classes (digital design), which slows down the class because the teacher has to explain how to copy and paste without right click (yeah, we have got some retards in my class).

Anyway, ultimately, its your problem. You can try whatever you want, but there are so many proxies and there are many other ways to get around it anyway. One day, your students will find a way around it.

Good luck anyway, and I hope you decide to just more closely watch your students.

The only fool proof way to stop the internet is to disconnect....

For me, having a bootable CD to play the game of go will be great since I travel a lot with a company computer. All those go resources available with very little work -- perfect! Booting that computer to something other than a MS product is also always a plus.

Along the same lines, my MandrakeMove CD is used quite a bit.

I have to go boot Hikarunix now! The BitTorrent download just finished (I got 175 kb/s at one point, amazing!).

• Matthew J. Szulik
• Jack Messman
• François Bancilhon
• Stuart F. Cohen

Upside? During install it autoloaded the Nvidia drivers with no configuration and the PC has been running smoothly since the last upgrade. All systems are go from DVD playback to CDr burning. It is my main desktop system and occasionally my wife uses it too.

Downside? Everything is running so smoothly that I don't dare break anything.

(sigh) At this point the only update I risk is KDE. I may upgrade to the KDE 3.3 MDK packages when they hit the kde.org download site (I'm running 3.2.3 and they are mostly stable) but I think I'll wait until Mandrake 11. It's too easy to get caught up in the frenzy. Linux can run for years without a restart, but I've yet to meet a linux geek who doesn't reformat and repartition his PC every two months. Mind you, with development in the F/OSS community constantly moving forward, and with nightly CVS snapshots, It's no wonder we have a whole lot of formating goin' on.

On a side note. I did get hit by the MBR bug BUT I installed Linux on a completely separate drive than WinXP. The MBR on my slave drive is completely messed. I haven't gotten around to fixing it because I can still boot into WinXP with no problems whatsoever. Besides, I'm just plain lazy.

See the results for yourself here.

In short: MandrakeSoft is out of "Chapter 11" (March 30th - 2004: Mandrakesoft Exits Bankruptcy). MandrakeSoft is back making profit. MandrakeSoft shares are back being actively traded.

Quoting latest report:
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During the third quarter of 2003/2004, Mandrakesoft produced a consolidated revenue of 1.50 M and a gross margin of 1.25 M, a respective increase of 39.1% and 66.7% compared with the same period of the previous fiscal year. The gross margin is the highest on record, and quarter by quarter there is an acceleration in its rate of growth (Q1 +29.8%, Q2 47.7%, Q3 +66.7%)

During the quarter, the company registered an operating income of 0.17 M (0.04 per share) compared to an operating loss of 0.47 M during the same period of the previous fiscal year. The net income increased to 0.19M (0.04 per share) compared to a net loss of 0.37 M during the previous fiscal year.
----

So it's all good.

Peace!

See the results for yourself here.

In short: MandrakeSoft is out of "Chapter 11" (March 30th - 2004: Mandrakesoft Exits Bankruptcy). MandrakeSoft is back making profit. MandrakeSoft shares are back being actively traded.

Quoting latest report:
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During the third quarter of 2003/2004, Mandrakesoft produced a consolidated revenue of 1.50 M and a gross margin of 1.25 M, a respective increase of 39.1% and 66.7% compared with the same period of the previous fiscal year. The gross margin is the highest on record, and quarter by quarter there is an acceleration in its rate of growth (Q1 +29.8%, Q2 47.7%, Q3 +66.7%)

During the quarter, the company registered an operating income of 0.17 M (0.04 per share) compared to an operating loss of 0.47 M during the same period of the previous fiscal year. The net income increased to 0.19M (0.04 per share) compared to a net loss of 0.37 M during the previous fiscal year.
----

So it's all good.

Peace!

This problem is common with the 2.6 kernel and has been verified in Mandrake 10.0 Community, Red Hat FC1, Red Hat FC2, and others.

Read about it here.

Basically, if you touch the MBR with a 2.6 kernel bootloader, XP or Windows 2000 is gone, and can't be restored. So backup your MBR first by using

"dd if=(input device) of=/(output dir)/hda-img.mbr bs=512 count=1"

where if=(input device), should point to your first drive, eg. /dev/hda, and of=(output dir) should point to where you want to save the bootsector as a file. Restore the MBR by reversing the input and output.

Even if you do this to restore, your Windows partition may still be toast, depending on how much you messed with the partition table.

> I've heard from others that Mandrake is just slow
> in general so I don't think it was just me.

I think you goal here is to provide false informations about Mandrake. They have been providing one of the fasted version of Linux since 1998! They always used optimization in compilation, which means that you get speed improvement, but on the other hand, you won't install a Mandrake on a 486 for install.

Anyway, performances depend on many factors, including hardware, number of services running and so on. And Gentoo is a pure geek-OS, not really Mandrake!

As a bonus, you can use it to transport data (eg. your mp3 collection) between places, or even use it to boot linux anywhere with much more space and document storage capability than Knoppix.

Install Stuff
You now have the possibility to add extra media (CD or network) during the installation. This means that you can download only the disc 1 or the new mini disc 1 and add a network source to complete your packages list.

Hardware Stuff
Firewire Networking
On computers with firewire, firewire networking will now be bound to eth0, while all other network cards will become eth1 and so on. People doing an upgrade, should remove their network configuration via Mandrake Control Center, and then recreate it, with the correct ethernet device. Laptop
laptop_mode is used to lower battery usage via the suspend-scripts package. Configure it with /etc/sysconfig/laptop.
PCMCIA network cards

Network cards must be set to ONBOOT=yes now. So you need to change it if you upgrade using drakconnect or any other ways.
udev is now the default device manager
Is there anything the user has to do to deal with this switch?

• Bug #4321 df lists full filesystem device names instead of short form => udev should solve that
• Bug #10821 udev doesn't remember NVIDIA driver devices => put in /etc/modprobe.preload

CD Burning

• there's currently a known bug in kernel-2.6.8.1 for CD burning Bug #10840
• the correction is available / should be included soon : http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3659
• current impact on K3B : K3B news cannot recognize CD writer

PalmOS PDA

• most PalmOS PDA working device should now be automatically detected and linked to /dev/pilot (see Bug #3381), but some can't be autodetected (like Tungsten T, T2). In this case (ie if pilot-link -l failed after starting hotsync on the Palm), add "VISOR_SWAP=true" to /etc/sysconfig/usb to force correct device usage.

Userland Stuff Desktop KDE

• Removable devices

supermount isn't used anymore to mount removable devices, they won't automatically appear on KDE desktop. To have removable device icons back on your desktop, go in the KDE Control Center/LookNFeel/Behavior/Devices icons, and make sure that the "Unmounted Hard Disc Partition" option is checked. This will be fixed in 10.1 Community edition. GNOME

• GNOME 2.6

Menus The simplified menu system has been enhanced to avoid the "All Applications" entry. Networking hostname changes and X sessions hostname changes triggered by network scripts will no longer break X sessions. This is implemented in the s2u package. default route Default routes are handled by device now to allow easy plugging/unplugging of network cards. To have priority between your devices, use the METRIC variable in your ifcfg-* files. Are there instructions on how to do this somewhere?, what are the allowed values of metric? internet service The internet service has been removed in favor of the normal network service. The installer or drakconnect will take care of the transition. Net Applet There is a new net applet that displays the network status in the notification area of the panel.

System Udev Udev is now the default device manager. Xorg xorg is now t

Install Stuff
You now have the possibility to add extra media (CD or network) during the installation. This means that you can download only the disc 1 or the new mini disc 1 and add a network source to complete your packages list.

Hardware Stuff
Firewire Networking
On computers with firewire, firewire networking will now be bound to eth0, while all other network cards will become eth1 and so on. People doing an upgrade, should remove their network configuration via Mandrake Control Center, and then recreate it, with the correct ethernet device. Laptop
laptop_mode is used to lower battery usage via the suspend-scripts package. Configure it with /etc/sysconfig/laptop.
PCMCIA network cards

Network cards must be set to ONBOOT=yes now. So you need to change it if you upgrade using drakconnect or any other ways.
udev is now the default device manager
Is there anything the user has to do to deal with this switch?

• Bug #4321 df lists full filesystem device names instead of short form => udev should solve that
• Bug #10821 udev doesn't remember NVIDIA driver devices => put in /etc/modprobe.preload

CD Burning

• there's currently a known bug in kernel-2.6.8.1 for CD burning Bug #10840
• the correction is available / should be included soon : http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3659
• current impact on K3B : K3B news cannot recognize CD writer

PalmOS PDA

• most PalmOS PDA working device should now be automatically detected and linked to /dev/pilot (see Bug #3381), but some can't be autodetected (like Tungsten T, T2). In this case (ie if pilot-link -l failed after starting hotsync on the Palm), add "VISOR_SWAP=true" to /etc/sysconfig/usb to force correct device usage.

Userland Stuff Desktop KDE

• Removable devices

supermount isn't used anymore to mount removable devices, they won't automatically appear on KDE desktop. To have removable device icons back on your desktop, go in the KDE Control Center/LookNFeel/Behavior/Devices icons, and make sure that the "Unmounted Hard Disc Partition" option is checked. This will be fixed in 10.1 Community edition. GNOME

• GNOME 2.6

Menus The simplified menu system has been enhanced to avoid the "All Applications" entry. Networking hostname changes and X sessions hostname changes triggered by network scripts will no longer break X sessions. This is implemented in the s2u package. default route Default routes are handled by device now to allow easy plugging/unplugging of network cards. To have priority between your devices, use the METRIC variable in your ifcfg-* files. Are there instructions on how to do this somewhere?, what are the allowed values of metric? internet service The internet service has been removed in favor of the normal network service. The installer or drakconnect will take care of the transition. Net Applet There is a new net applet that displays the network status in the notification area of the panel.

System Udev Udev is now the default device manager. Xorg xorg is now t

Install Stuff
You now have the possibility to add extra media (CD or network) during the installation. This means that you can download only the disc 1 or the new mini disc 1 and add a network source to complete your packages list.

Hardware Stuff
Firewire Networking
On computers with firewire, firewire networking will now be bound to eth0, while all other network cards will become eth1 and so on. People doing an upgrade, should remove their network configuration via Mandrake Control Center, and then recreate it, with the correct ethernet device. Laptop
laptop_mode is used to lower battery usage via the suspend-scripts package. Configure it with /etc/sysconfig/laptop.
PCMCIA network cards

Network cards must be set to ONBOOT=yes now. So you need to change it if you upgrade using drakconnect or any other ways.
udev is now the default device manager
Is there anything the user has to do to deal with this switch?

• Bug #4321 df lists full filesystem device names instead of short form => udev should solve that
• Bug #10821 udev doesn't remember NVIDIA driver devices => put in /etc/modprobe.preload

CD Burning

• there's currently a known bug in kernel-2.6.8.1 for CD burning Bug #10840
• the correction is available / should be included soon : http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3659
• current impact on K3B : K3B news cannot recognize CD writer

PalmOS PDA

• most PalmOS PDA working device should now be automatically detected and linked to /dev/pilot (see Bug #3381), but some can't be autodetected (like Tungsten T, T2). In this case (ie if pilot-link -l failed after starting hotsync on the Palm), add "VISOR_SWAP=true" to /etc/sysconfig/usb to force correct device usage.

Userland Stuff Desktop KDE

• Removable devices

supermount isn't used anymore to mount removable devices, they won't automatically appear on KDE desktop. To have removable device icons back on your desktop, go in the KDE Control Center/LookNFeel/Behavior/Devices icons, and make sure that the "Unmounted Hard Disc Partition" option is checked. This will be fixed in 10.1 Community edition. GNOME

• GNOME 2.6

Menus The simplified menu system has been enhanced to avoid the "All Applications" entry. Networking hostname changes and X sessions hostname changes triggered by network scripts will no longer break X sessions. This is implemented in the s2u package. default route Default routes are handled by device now to allow easy plugging/unplugging of network cards. To have priority between your devices, use the METRIC variable in your ifcfg-* files. Are there instructions on how to do this somewhere?, what are the allowed values of metric? internet service The internet service has been removed in favor of the normal network service. The installer or drakconnect will take care of the transition. Net Applet There is a new net applet that displays the network status in the notification area of the panel.

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