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According to one article you can call them to complain and get a free upgrade to the version you need or send a scan of your receipt to H&R Block and get a free version of Tax Cut that has all the forms. Personally, I prefer the former so Intuit knows they have an unhappy customer serious enough to call them on these shenanigans.

> He's armed with a small single barrelled [sic] shotgun.

You say "small", the reporters say "sawed-off" - lol, I see what you did there. Funny how you can't produce an effective weapon by "sawing off" an assault rifle in order to conceal it and bring it to a, oh i don't know... how about a coffee shop in downtown Sydney.

He did a fine job killing two people, and wounding four others with his small shotgun though... shame. But it's a good thing you can sue the gun manufacturer in order to prevent these darned things from killing people. Oh, and while you're at it, put a large automobile manufacturer on your list to sue as well - they're responsible for all kinds of senseless death too.

"Police said a 50-year-old man, believed to be the attacker, was killed. Television pictures showed he appeared to have been armed with a sawn-off shotgun.

A man aged 34 and a 38-year-old woman were also killed, police said. The man was the cafe manager and the woman was a mother and barrister, local media reported. Four were wounded, including a policeman hit in the face with shotgun pellets."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/...

> We are not terrorised here I can assure you.

Well, we certainly know where you're NOT in Australia... most likely sitting around in some other coffee shop with a smug grin on your face. Perhaps you should just stick to speaking for yourself and not others...

Here is a link that seems to support my previous comments: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/...

I question why a single mom with no job has a $389 monthly payment instead of buying a 8 year old used car she could actually afford.

A 2006 Toyota Camry costs about $7,500 to $11,000 according to Kelley Blue Book via MSN. Buying an 8-year-old car on a 24-month payment plan would result in a payment amount of $9,336.

Yes, rich people when they get money stick it under mattresses in order to deny the money from the economy

Yes, they do, and they're hoarding more of it than ever; "members of this global elite are stashing an average $600 million each -- 10 times more than a year ago."

Operating with cutting-edge technology out of a trailer in rural Illinois

Funny you should mention that; when I read the summary, I immediately wondered if that "cutting edge technology" included a Honey Bear Bong...

we wanted flying cars ... a flying car* is not possible ... *a la 5th Element

Will a hoverbike* suffice?

*Apologies for the link source.

I'm sure we'll see this become a reality in the next couple of years. Honest! :P

And these poor bastards chose a real shitty time to be exposing themselves to the rest of the world. With the threat of Ebola and warfare, they were better of waiting 5 more years from now.

I don't think he actually bought the tools. He was googling around for some of them, and for a recipe for chloroform, but I just read the New Yorker article and it didn't say he bought any of the tools. He talked about having an oven he could fit a woman in, but didn't actually own such an oven. He also talked about having a cabin in the woods they could take a victim, but he didn't own such a cabin.

If he had bought the tools, yeah I'd say a conspiracy to commit murder charge might be appropriate, but he didn't. So it was still in the realm of fantasy.

What, you mean a mainstream media outlet gave me bad info? Inconceivable!

Regardless, the whole thing is creepy as fuck. Ordinarily, I wouldn't give a crap what somebody's fantasy or fetish is. Their business. Even this guy's. But once he started naming names and making plans, that pushes it over the edge. That is a hard, hard thing to say "live and let live" about.

Agreed; add in the fact that non-government-agent types who have done pretty much the same thing were not let off so lightly.

McDonalds had pizza. http://money.ca.msn.com/saving...

Uhmmm, my credit union prints their own cards right in the branch and hands them to you when you open an account. With raised numbers like a normal card. The card printers for making properly-embossed cards are not that expensive.

That may be the case, but it's a moot point considering that some cards received in the mail (such as Discover IT cards) are now switching to flat printed (unembossed) formats. It's no longer an issue of how expensive embossing machines are.

Here's an article on the subject from MSE Money: http://money.msn.com/credit-cards/4-ways-credit-cards-are-changing

What sickens me is a GPS that you can get for $150 is $2,000 when OEM because now it's a "navigation system".

And you have to pay the dealer $$$$ for software updates - if you can get them.

That's why that required review camera is a bad idea. A shitty camera that you could get for $50 is now going to cost $1,000 because they can - All financed. All because some dingbats couldn't put their phones down to look for their kids.

There is something really wrong when folks are looking at 97 month car loans.

WTF is wrong with the World?!

No way i'm installing "Skype voucher.exe" on my PC. Can anyone tell me what the file REALLY do? Original download link: http://g.msn.com/Skype/123

Meh. If you're going to go with three wheels, I'd rather have this. Not only does it not look like something from the 70s, but it's extremely aerodynamically efficient.

I agree that China's emissions are a major concern (much less so for India), but that does not absolve the US' own responsibilities as the second-largest emitter (not to mention its past contributions too). When the US and others have cleaned up their own acts, more pressure can be brought to bear on China to follow suit (though at least it is making a start). To wait for others to act first is Tragedy of the Commons on a global scale.

the massive amount of money necessary for it would be available from the sale of [STEP's] byproduct, elemental coal

I think you're jumping more than a few guns there. The process has only just been experimentally demonstrated, the "elemental coal" of which you speak is a coating of solid carbon on an electrode, and even that needs a reaction temperature of over 750C (which implies significant solar concentration). We know nothing about engineering challenges scaling this up outside the laboratory, or what sort of costs or return it might involve. In fact, most of the attention so far seems to be on producing cement with it (still good for reducing emissions).

It sounds like STEP could one day be a useful part of our energy mix, but it's far from being a magic bullet, and it's certainly not going to attract major investment for a while yet.

All these renewable energies appear to be offered in the form of electricity, and cars do not yet run on that except for some very slippery-through-the-air, very expensive cars that most of us can't afford.

You might want to take another look at the electric car industry; there's rather more there than just Tesla Motors, and much more on the way. Every major manufacturer is working on electric vehicles, and some have been working on hydrogen fuel cell vehicles too (such as this Silverado). Again, we're not talking about turning off the oil today, but phasing it out as electric cars become more widespread (plug-in hybrids are a perfect intermediate stage).

bring industry back to the USA

I'm sure most Americans would agree with you there, but how to do that is not nearly so clear, and is the subject of much debate. Reducing income taxes usually means reducing services too, which many citizens and companies depend on, so it's not a clear-cut answer. Shifting to consumption taxes tends to hit poorer communities hardest, so that's a problem too. Personally I think full automation would be a good approach, but that's a different discussion. In any case, it's at best tangential - from the perspective of CO2, there's little point moving industry back to the US until the US takes a clear lead in reducing its own per-capita emissions.

Brick & Mortor [sic] at their local bank. Many still do it this way today given the security nightmare that online banking has suffered recently.

May or may not be. Often times, any bank security breach is from a user, not from the system. In other words, both client or the employee causes the security breach to the system ( http://money.msn.com/saving-mo... ). Many who use the online banking understand the convenience they get plus the time saving. As long as they properly use it (i.e. http://nakedsecurity.sophos.co... ), the security stuff would never be an issue.

Again, a trip to the lawyer's office...

I agree that the legal forms should be done via a person/lawyer. However, there are other applications/forms that you could simply fill in via the Internet rather than write/fill in a physical form. It is much more convenience, faster, and could be cheaper (no envelope and stamp). And one thing I feel that it is very convenient to use the Internet is to file/submit tax return!

That's why God invented schools...

School nowadays require students to submit/accept their work via the Internet/Intranet. It is a lot more convenience and It is NOT only for MOOC style which to me is still in at immature state. Therefore, giving out assignment/homework via hand out or on the board is much less convenient to both teachers and students. The Internet is there, why not utilize it?

NOAA Weather Radio...

I have no comment on this one because I do not check for the weather. However, on one note about "radio" in your comment, many people nowadays do NOT listen to their radio box but rather listen to the "Internet radio" instead. See the word "Internet"?

Phone call to broker...

May or may not get the information quickly. Also, those people would need to check on the INTERNET. Or do you think they need to call another person to get the answer for you? So why would you go through the middle man if you can get it directly?

USPS/ UPS/ FedEx Same Day Delivery...

Not unless you need the document (regardless certified or prototype) within an hour and you need to deliver across the country. Also, these carrier do NOT GUARANTEE that your document will be delivered on the "same day." There are many cases already that they cannot do what they advertised. Most documents nowadays are in digital format. If it does not need real signature on it or certified, why spend money on carrier and time for delivery? Physical delivery is NOT what Internet is for. Maybe you are still stuck in the hard copied world.

Overall, the Internet has been absorbed into the society long enough to be a part of the society; especially in the 1st world countries. I would not reject the idea of its necessity due to its benefits. I will wait and see how it evolves. I am quite sure that it will be one of utility that human will need to live on.

"We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now..." .' Now Lovelock is walking back his rhetoric, admitting that he and other prominent global warming advocates were being alarmists. In a new interview with MSNBC he says: '"The problem is we don't know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books — mine included — because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn't happened," Lovelock said. "The climate is doing its usual tricks. There's nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now," he said. "The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising — carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that," he added.' Lovelock still believes the climate is changing, but at a much, much slower pace."

'Gaia' scientist James Lovelock: I was 'alarmist' about climate change
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com...

Steve Jobs had a salary of $ 1 per year. He shared in the success of the company because he owned a good chunk of it.

That, I have no problem with.

Yes, but that salary structure wasn't because of some nebulous "belief in the company" it was structured that way to avoid taxes and for public relations purposes. link

Here is the memo that this story is based on:

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/ms...

Every single scientist should fight it. Make them execute every single scummy plan they have on the books. If hundreds of thousands of scientists fight back, you'll see just how "unlimited" corp's pockets actually are.

1. Global Warming "debate"
2. Evolution "is just a theory"

Talking about realities does not make you come out on top. Even more so with these companies that do not give a shit about the environment as long as they get to sell their crap for the duration of the patent. They only need to distort reality for as long as they are making money on stuff they make and not on new stuff they do not make (yet).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

In 1978 the United States banned the use of CFCs such as Freon in aerosol cans, the beginning of a long series of regulatory actions against their use. The critical DuPont manufacturing patent for Freon ("Process for Fluorinating Halohydrocarbons", U.S. Patent #3258500) was set to expire in 1979. In conjunction with other industrial peers DuPont sponsored efforts such as the "Alliance for Responsible CFC Policy" to question anti-CFC science, but in a turnabout in 1986 DuPont, with new patents in hand, publicly condemned CFCs.[9] DuPont representatives appeared before the Montreal Protocol urging that CFCs be banned worldwide and stated that their new HCFCs would meet the worldwide demand for refrigerants.[9]

Companies do not give a shit about regulation, or future damage caused by their products. They only care about next quarter numbers. This is why it is extremely important for regulatory agencies to be impartial and outside of any industry. The role of the government is to have LONG TIME HORIZON.

Yes, I'm looking at you, Prime Minister of Canada Steven Harper.

http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/...

Case and point is CFCs. If they weren't banned because of "questionable science', today we would have no ozone left, UV index of 60+, and no ozone for at least another century. Because of regulation, we "only" have UV index of 10+ (instead of 5 or so) and ozone layer will recover for our grandchildren, maybe.

I remember during one of the Bush 2 nationally televised debates; All of the Republican hopefuls were on stage and the question was asked “do you believe in evolution” – not a single one on stage raised their hand.

I don't remember the question coming up in Bush 2, but I know it's been asked and answered more recently than that. Article here. Video here

TLDR: In May 2007, the GOP hopefuls were asked "How many of you don’t believe in evolution?". Even McCain, who had just a month before said that he liked evolution, changed his mind.

Found one.
They are also not without flaws;

So back to StarChase, this "revolutionary" GPS launching system: It has some flaws. The cannon costs $5,000 and the non-reusable GPS "bullets" cost $500 each. During a recent media demonstration, four sticky bullets were fired at a car, but only one of them stayed stuck.

That was under good conditions. It is a good idea but not very practical.

Really?
Ford's Cruise Control Switch Fires
Spontaneously Combusting Jeeps

??? How old ARE you? (OMG: I'm only 55 -- maybe I really am older and more paranoid than I thought.)

Let me get this straight: you gave away control of your unencrypted files to someone who wasn't a known personal friend and then am surprised that something happened to them??

I treat on-line services slightly differently: I keep local copies of EVERYTHING that goes out, and I'm surprised when it's still accessible online 5 minutes later, never mind 5 years later. And controlling exactly who has access to it? That's just a fantasy -- really. It's actually binary: either it's out there and they MIGHT have it, or it's not and they DON'T.

I do run Dropbox and use KeePass as a password manager. The credential store is encrypted, but even then the stored password there just isn't "quite right". Phone camera pics get uploaded to Dropbox. At times I'll AES encrypt and email or use Dropbox and expose. For stupid pics I'll just dump 'em out there straight. But I know what's exposed and encrypted-exposed. The latter die soon after they're used.

You store important and critical (tax receipts, lawyer-enforced) notices that might cause breach of contract? And you put control of that in someone else's hands, paid for or not? What kind of an IDIOT are you? Then again, you must not think much of the breaching penalties. That's great, I'm glad you're so confident at everyone always doing the right thing everywhere and nothing bad ever happening.

Me, if I'm going to have a some contract or data leakage it'll be because *I* did it myself and have no one else to blame. Then again, it's obvious digital computer files and paid services will stay around forever: Just ask MegaUpload, GeoCities, and LavaBit. Oh, and the data center located in the Twin Towers? Onsite backups sure came in handy there. Some got thru better than others: One, Two

Then again, there's this brand new data center that will hold all of your data for years -- all for free! I'm sure you can retrieve all of your data from that.

Really, I'm glad things are going so well for you, with the exception of a few bumps. And local storage doesn't solve everything either -- drives can be stolen, warrants can be served, computers can be hacked and data downloaded. But damn it, for 99.9% of my data, I'm 100% directly responsible for it. Offloading everything to the cloud is just offloading responsibility, never mind anything at all to do with the NSA.

Oh, one last thing. Even if all of the employees in the ISP, supporting companies, 3rd party vendors and everyone involved are all above reproach. are you sure? And even say all of the software is 100% vetted and accurate (ignoring accidental software bugs): oops.

Paranoid? Probably, but then again most things don't deserve multiple layers of defense. Only a few do, and of those only a select few get vetted, encrypted, backed up, and rotated offsite. But as for "What would you need if everything was suddenly gone (house fire) and you could only keep a couple of things?" Well there's your answer.

Good luck with it all; hope you produce a updated

You don't need to transliterate it, it is written on the side.

It's true. Here is the latest MSNBC poll. Check page 18 for the results on ACA.

Ironically, ACA got a boost in popularity, in spite of (or perhaps because of) the shutdown fiasco.

Problem for cats is they are better at climbing up than down and can easily get themselves in a predicament, unlike squirrels, they can't actually grip the tree while upside down. I have seen a cat climb up things, or use their claws to hang on things, but, never climb down, they jump down....and if they can't safely jump to a branch that gets them close enough to the ground, I could see them getting stuck.

I say, "I could see" because I have never seen a cat actually get stuck in a tree. They seem to be smart enough to not climb trees very often. A quick google search indicates that this, appears to be a real problem that people have run into but.... its obviously not so common that everyone knows what to do from the panicked "OMG My cat went missing for 2 days and I found him up in a tree, what do I do now" questions out there.

http://www.ask.com/answers/19238201/ja-question?q=&o=0&l=dir&jss=0

and of course:

http://news.msn.com/us/cop-gets-stuck-in-tree-trying-to-rescue-cat-stuck-in-tree

A cat's terminal velocity is survivable for the cat. They can jump from basicly any height and be fine.

Problem for cats is they are better at climbing up than down and can easily get themselves in a predicament, unlike squirrels, they can't actually grip the tree while upside down. I have seen a cat climb up things, or use their claws to hang on things, but, never climb down, they jump down....and if they can't safely jump to a branch that gets them close enough to the ground, I could see them getting stuck.

I say, "I could see" because I have never seen a cat actually get stuck in a tree. They seem to be smart enough to not climb trees very often. A quick google search indicates that this, appears to be a real problem that people have run into but.... its obviously not so common that everyone knows what to do from the panicked "OMG My cat went missing for 2 days and I found him up in a tree, what do I do now" questions out there.

http://www.ask.com/answers/19238201/ja-question?q=&o=0&l=dir&jss=0

and of course:

http://news.msn.com/us/cop-gets-stuck-in-tree-trying-to-rescue-cat-stuck-in-tree

http://news.msn.com/world/swiss-to-vote-on-dollar2800-monthly-income-for-all-adults
http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/08/12/cyprus-president-anastasiades-announces-guaranteed-minimum-income-for-all-citizens/

That seems unlikely.

According to this the US created more new millionaires last year than Germany has TOTAL.

Wouldn't it make more sense to fix the root cause of this problem, that is, overfishing?

Heh heh heh. Overfishing. I mean, that's part of the problem, but did you forget about acidification? (Let's just gloss over nuclear currents for a moment.) The significant sea creatures that can tolerate it gracefully are brittle stars and jellyfish. Algae will do okay as well, but kelp won't -- the increased acidification promotes algae that competes with it. So you get a big soup of stars, jellies, and algae. Mmmmmmmm good.

As for what the jellyfish become food for, it's everything below it, like always. Unless you have a problem with bottom-dwellers there's no reason to complain about that. The real issue is what we're doing to our biosphere that's causing these problems.

By all means, stop overfishing, HAHAHAHA. But that won't stop this.

They're not just having one storage tank in the area: go look at http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/reuters/2013-05-15t210949z_1_cbre94e1msm00_rtroptp_3_japan-power-deregulation.jpg
That's from march this year.

"Well no, they likely won't say something absurd and false."

OHRLY?

Check out their list of predictions. Not one came true. Ever. Show me the one that did.

Did you miss this?

"James Lovelock, the scientist that came up with the 'Gaia Theory' and a prominent herald of climate change, once predicted utter disaster for the planet from climate change, writing 'before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable.' Now Lovelock is walking back his rhetoric, admitting that he and other prominent global warming advocates were being alarmists. In a new interview with MSNBC he says: '"The problem is we don't know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books — mine included — because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn't happened," Lovelock said. "The climate is doing its usual tricks. There's nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now," he said. "The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising — carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that," he added.' Lovelock still believes the climate is changing, but at a much, much slower pace."

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/james-lovelock-the-earth-is-about-to-catch-a-morbid-fever-that-may-last-as-long-as-100000-years-523161.html
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/23/11144098-gaia-scientist-james-lovelock-i-was-alarmist-about-climate-change?lite

And wtf do you suppose this means?

http://news.yahoo.com/best-ipcc-climate-report-leaks-122437372.html

"The draft report said, "There is low confidence in the scientific understanding of the small observed increase in Antarctic sea ice extent."

"The IPCC projects warming will likely be above 2.4 degrees Fahrenheit (1.5 degrees Celsius) and very likely below 10.8 degrees Fahrenheit (6 degrees Celsius.) This is a rollback from 2007, when the likely low end of the warming range was pinned at 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit (2 degrees Celsius)"

"The IPCC also acknowledges a slowdown in warming in the past 15 years, which climate change skeptics say is evidence of a global cooling trend. There's no global cooling, according to the report."

"But even with this variability, the past 30 years were the warmest in several centuries, the report said. (A study published April 21, 2013, in the journal Nature Geoscience confirms this trend — the last three decades were the warmest in 1,400 years.)" - ok work with me here. So, it was warmer 1401 years ago? The Danish tree ring data (http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate1589.html) shows it was much hotter in Roman times than even way off the end of the hockey stick graph, so the "unprecedented" claim has been falsified.

"The pace of melting glaciers is rising, the report concludes. The Arctic ice pack is shrinking. As mentioned above, the massive Antarctic ice cap is also starting to show signs of responding to global warming by increasing its melting. The Greenland Ice Sheet lost about six times more ice from 2002 to 2011 than from 1992 to 2001 — an average of 177 billion tons a year versus 7 billion tons a year, respectively. "

Oh crap, that sounds serious. What does NASA say?
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/greenland-melt.html

"Ice cores from

Buy the rumor, sell the news is something that happens in most markets. Sometimes traders trade based on what they believe will happen in a given economic report or event, like this fire. Once the event passes or the report is released, they dump their positions and the market moves.

Take a look at $SOX, the PHLX Semiconductor Index Fund. it shot up and although it's not specifically tied to memory manufacturers, there's a bullish sentiment on the semiconductor industry over this one little fire. It shot up at the same time the fire hit and it's up 9% since August 27. I'll bet it'll sink back down once Hynix is back in full operation.

That was rejected http://now.msn.com/hiv-vaccine-trial-subjects-experience-no-adverse-effects from submissions...

* Interesting reading, & I, for one, hope they wipe this SOB out - it has royally messed up folks lives in many ways for decades now.

APK

P.S.=> Don't understand HOW or WHY it was rejected, but "that's slashdot" for you - Still, the folks in question here aren't the ONLY ONES ontop of a fix for this killer it seems... apk

Perfectly fine? Take a look at the 5-year stock price chart for Exxon vs BP. That's on top of the cash payments (to the owners, the dividend hit). Total return since just before the spill is very poor. Someone who purchased $10k worth of stock in BP is down over $5800 compared to someone who bought Exxon, and down almost $2900 in absolute terms.

But i've been in areas where the standard procedure for nearly everyone a reasonable distance away from certain areas wants to run a credit check on you before signing a lease.

This article and this discussion and this article claim that standard procedure can be worked around. Showing pay stubs, offering to pay three to six months' rent up front in states that allow it, or seeking a shorter lease term will make the landlord more likely to feel like filling a vacancy.

Mark my words: This'll start the show http://money.msn.com/top-stocks/7-reasons-for-a-september-crash

For those interested in the current state of drive in theatres, Carl Weese had a Kickstarter project (which I backed) to fund a road trip in order to photograph as many of the remaining drive in theatres as possibly before the switch to digital projection. Many theatres were not expected to be able to fund the transition to digital projection.

Some of those photographs were featured on MSN and more are available on his site.

There was little to no chance of Morsi becoming a dictator.

Are you insane? Morsi fired the heads of the military and then declared himself and anything he did above the law.

He was trying to shift over all control of the military to himself, and also declared himself head of the courts and police...

He was utterly a dictator. Note that the military did not step in UNTIL the clear will of the people was evidenced in massive protests against Morsi - and even then the military gave Morsi a chance to back off the power grab, which he would not do.

What the military has done is protected democracy from a monster, and acted only on the will of a people. Someone like you would rather see Egypt fall into a thousand years of darkness as millions died, in order to protect something that was no longer there. Disgusting and utterly stupid.

The BBC reported the same:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23487928

Car break-ins using it are already in the news:
http://www.today.com/news/police-admit-theyre-stumped-mystery-car-thefts-6C10169993
http://jalopnik.com/whats-the-secret-device-thieves-in-california-are-usin-471782175
http://news.msn.com/science-technology/high-tech-car-thieves-break-into-vehicles-without-leaving-a-trace

Here is the device built using the same code these researchers discovered:
http://www.vag-info.com/BMW%20Group%20products.htm
and a video how to use it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmPfCFFkqQ

There is already some people using tech to break into cars in California.
http://news.msn.com/science-technology/high-tech-car-thieves-break-into-vehicles-without-leaving-a-trace
http://jalopnik.com/whats-the-secret-device-thieves-in-california-are-usin-471782175

Both're proven better than what's goes on here http://money.msn.com/now/post--heres-the-most-dishonest-place-in-the-us

* I have NO problem with guys that speak truth & operate as honestly as they can. I don't see that in the link above (the character of the place) OR their results (especially economically, which SHOULD be their #1 job for their constituency, NOT JUST THEMSELVES!)

I objectively sat back + watched all of this, taking in what sources I read said, but more importantly? THE REACTIONS OF THOSE WHO *MAY* GET THEIR "APPLECART UPSET" noted point by point, in the link below.

(I don't argue with facts. Facts I keep repeatedly being reinforced from valid & reputable enough sources).

This says it better than I EVER COULD:

"Why shouldn't I work for the NSA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrOZllbNarw

Especially regarding this article, since that video shows that the less intelligent scammers use the more intelligent folks that CAN actually get things done. Is that bad? Yes, when they "do as I say & not as I do" & feed us bullshit worst of all using OUR TAX MONEY TO DO IT, making war machines only the 1% profits by with their sycophants/cronies/yes men, and sending our jobs offshore profiting moreso even.

Why do you *think* Greenspan quit? He knew it's fucked up, and run fucked up. Doesn't take an economist to fix this mess... read below.

APK

P.S.=> You *MAY* want to take another read, & consider its points (they were written for YOU, myself, & those you care for) -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4023649&cid=44405751

... apk

"Absolute Power Corrupting Absolutely" in the long-haul. There is a reason that old adage exists you know... it usually comes true, and history's FULL of examples of it & if you keep reading? You'll see WHERE I got that idea, and from whom (an expert in the field, without a doubt).

I.E.-> You put that much power in anyone's hands, sooner or later, it goes to their heads, & they abuse it (not sure I'd be "above it" either myself - 1 'bad day' & poof - you've got Caligula!).

I figure it this way: When the ONLY guy foreign dignitaries often will talk to since he has honor and is trustworthy says this http://now.msn.com/jimmy-carter-says-the-nsa-has-eliminated-a-functioning-democracy it's spot-on.

Lastly - this fellow? I'd put his intelligence FAR above politicians, and I will go with the insights of intelligent folks every time vs. the less intelligent. How about you?

No - I suspect that YOU are 1 of those getting "fat & happy" off of this somehow, hence your statement. Defunding the NSA would "upset your applecart" - the powers that be WANT to keep the status quo.

Why?

Heck - transparently simple: They're ALL wealthy men (including our politicians the puppets of the REAL controllers) getting wealthier is why & at OUR expense as taxpayers. Are they doing a good job? Please, lol... HELL NO! Look @ the economy, the US credit rating, etc./et al!

I can think of MANY WAYS to spend that money more wisely, to greater efficacy/ROI & for the greater good & I am no "genius" or economist either (then neither is our "rule of law" (secret law/secret courts, wtf - they're civil servants NOT masters, nothing more)!

It doesn't take one to fix our main problem: The economy. Instead of building war machines, build jobs. Be "good government" for real, & do "laissez faire" but, as good government say "Ok, fine - but we're going to tax your profit gains on offshoring, hit you with a fine too - you'll stop: It will defeat your 'raison d'etre' as business: Profit". Do right by the MAJORITY of your constituents instead of only yourselves & those that TRULY control "the best politicians money can REALLY buy", for real.

Plus - Who the hell made us the "policeman (gestapo) of the planet anyhow? Why are we sticking our noses into others' lives overseas when we have issues @ home to fix?? Oh, we KNOW who (the real puppeteers/war profiteers is who that REALLY run things - the infamous 1% is who!).

APK

P.S.=> Nobody in their RIGHT MIND likes this stuff going on, period. Nobody That is, unless they too are part of the "good ole' boy" network getting fat, rich & happy from it on NO BID CONTRACTS (halliburton) - they won't bitch @ all, while the rest of us get unions busted, jobs offshored, and seeing these "brainiacs" (not) fuck the economy up spending on bullshit like this used against us, and spent on NO WMDs FOUND WARS (false pretense to go after someone who had something you want, or crossed the "powers that be").

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1.) Clapper & Alexander outright LIED to congress (twisting words using DIRECTLY! Well, might as well be, using directed multigraph discrete math work & NARUS devices set @ the "choke point" nexus of communique.

2.) Just like how they CLAIM there is no easy CENTRAL way to query their own mail but they do it to everyone else - I found that hilarious & disgusting, since mail is really DBMail and to select/insert/update/delete into those, you NEED to have abilities for that... What they told us, unless someone can show me otherwise, is total bullshit. Hypocritical bullshit). I.E.-> We can do it to you, but nobody can to us @ the NSA... that's bullshit.

3.) Screwing with protesters was from the FEEBS http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy

Since Gen. Alexander & president Obama did "last second 'lobbying'" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/justin-amash-amendment_n_3647893.html [huffingtonpost.com] ONLY - & yes, I strongly suspect that of those mere 7 votes, the ones that sent it over the top were coerced. After all, nobody's going to tell me that J. Edgar Hoover style blackmail tactics or bribes/favors (ala lobbyists, since that is all that really is with another term assigned to it) didn't take place. Nobody in their RIGHT MIND likes this stuff going on, period. Nobody. Clapper & Alexander outright LIED to congress (twisting words using DIRECTLY, just like how they CLAIM there is no easy CENTRAL way to query their own mail but they do it to everyone else - I found that hilarious & disgusting, since mail is really DBMail and to select/insert/update/delete into those, you NEED to have abilities for that... What they told us, unless someone can show me otherwise, is total bullshit. Hypocritical bullshit). It's wrong. Just like screwing with protesters was. Just like the IRS used against political opponents of the current regime in office. I started looking at all of this madness & lunacy and just was utterly disgusted. Most folks, are. This is insane. Truly insane. Why does this concern me and it should you all as well? I was told decades ago by a history professor of mine in collegiate academia this: "Totalitarian regimes start with 'little laws' they pass, getting an inch, & reaching for a mile: Before you know it, you are Nazi Germany/Soviet Russia USA: DO NOT THINK IT CANNOT HAPPEN HERE" & even former President Carter feels the same http://now.msn.com/jimmy-carter-says-the-nsa-has-eliminated-a-functioning-democracy [msn.com] I used to think HISTORY was a waste of my time then. That was until I figured out that the "powers that be" use it as a guidebook for scamming the populace. Polishing up the mistakes those that set the pattern for what they're doing messed up on, & just trying it again, often a generation or two later. These guys have to be reined in. No questions asked. Why? "Absolute Power Corrupting Absolutely". Sooner or later, that kind of power goes to ANYONE's head and they will abuse it. Heck, they lied to Congress, nothing was done. The head of the IRS didn't lose her job either. I suspect that Clapper, Alexander, & the IRS head told Obama "Pal, you fire me? I will let the dogs out on the FACT you gave ME THE 'GO-AHEAD' to do these things and I will take you down with me. Try it!". That's how "politicians" operate. Thuggery, bribery, etc. and the USA isn't happy either http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/23/19644154-nbcwsj-poll-faith-in-dc-hits-a-low-83-percent-disapprove-of-congress?lite [nbcnews.com] and I certainly didn't see their machinations stop the Boston Bomber either. The trade off/cost-benefit ratio of effectiveness vs. actual crmiinals with their bogus programs is far outweighed by the potentials for misuse. As far as misuse of powers? See just SOME of the examples above that make folks have that all-time low faith in government. What they're doing is dangerous to us all, no questions asked, & fits the pattern described to me by my former history Prof. (smart man, he left a real impression on me back in 1985 with that statement quoted above in fact. I never forgot it, but felt then as a young man it was bullshit... funny how his words are coming to pass now, nearly 30 yrs. later).

APK

P.S.=> Quotes from that article: Conyers said the lobbying "was heavy. They were very worried about it." But, he added, "the fact that they won this narrowly means they still are worried -- because this thing isn't over yet. This is just the beginning

Since Gen. Alexander & president Obama did "last second 'lobbying'" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/justin-amash-amendment_n_3647893.html ONLY - & yes, I strongly suspect that of those mere 7 votes, the ones that sent it over the top were coerced. After all, nobody's going to tell me that J. Edgar Hoover style blackmail tactics or bribes/favors (ala lobbyists, since that is all that really is with another term assigned to it) didn't take place. Nobody in their RIGHT MIND likes this stuff going on, period. Nobody. Clapper & Alexander outright LIED to congress (twisting words using DIRECTLY, just like how they CLAIM there is no easy CENTRAL way to query their own mail but they do it to everyone else - I found that hilarious & disgusting, since mail is really DBMail and to select/insert/update/delete into those, you NEED to have abilities for that... What they told us, unless someone can show me otherwise, is total bullshit. Hypocritical bullshit). It's wrong. Just like screwing with protesters was. Just like the IRS used against political opponents of the current regime in office. I started looking at all of this madness & lunacy and just was utterly disgusted. Most folks, are. This is insane. Truly insane. Why does this concern me and it should you all as well? I was told decades ago by a history professor of mine in collegiate academia this: "Totalitarian regimes start with 'little laws' they pass, getting an inch, & reaching for a mile: Before you know it, you are Nazi Germany/Soviet Russia USA: DO NOT THINK IT CANNOT HAPPEN HERE" & even former President Carter feels the same http://now.msn.com/jimmy-carter-says-the-nsa-has-eliminated-a-functioning-democracy I used to think HISTORY was a waste of my time then. That was until I figured out that the "powers that be" use it as a guidebook for scamming the populace. Polishing up the mistakes those that set the pattern for what they're doing messed up on, & just trying it again, often a generation or two later. These guys have to be reined in. No questions asked. Why? "Absolute Power Corrupting Absolutely". Sooner or later, that kind of power goes to ANYONE's head and they will abuse it. Heck, they lied to Congress, nothing was done. The head of the IRS didn't lose her job either. I suspect that Clapper, Alexander, & the IRS head told Obama "Pal, you fire me? I will let the dogs out on the FACT you gave ME THE 'GO-AHEAD' to do these things and I will take you down with me. Try it!". That's how "politicians" operate. Thuggery, bribery, etc. and the USA isn't happy either http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/23/19644154-nbcwsj-poll-faith-in-dc-hits-a-low-83-percent-disapprove-of-congress?lite and I certainly didn't see their machinations stop the Boston Bomber either. The trade off/cost-benefit ratio of effectiveness vs. actual crmiinals with their bogus programs is far outweighed by the potentials for misuse. As far as misuse of powers? See just SOME of the examples above that make folks have that all-time low faith in government. What they're doing is dangerous to us all, no questions asked, & fits the pattern described to me by my former history Prof. (smart man, he left a real impression on me back in 1985 with that statement quoted above in fact. I never forgot it, but felt then as a young man it was bullshit... funny how his words are coming to pass now, nearly 30 yrs. later).

APK

P.S.=> Quotes from that article: Conyers said the lobbying "was heavy. They were very worried about it." But, he added, "the fact that they won this narrowly means they still are worried -- because this thing isn't over yet. This is just the beginning." ... They ought to be w

Hi BM, I did a quick google search and found the following chart:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/27/16196680-police-deaths-down-23-percent-this-year-across-us?lite
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/AJDocs/121227_PoliceDeaths.pdf has a chart.
Is the US counting in new ways? Trying to reduce compensation costs from the 1970's numbers?
Thanks.

Um, you should check your facts again.

Gates owns 461,409,025 insider shares.

Total shares at that time: 5,830,212,610.

Can you provide examples where this is currently happening? Is it common to be turned down for a job because of a medical issue as a youth? I just don't see this happening much. Not being able to pass a physical is the closest thing you see for some types of employment.

Well, I'd like to think that you're naive, but in reality it's more likely that you're just fucking dense.

They're already running physicals on you.. that's nothing new. Now they're running drug tests. Hospitals around here are now outright refusing to hire smokers and they pull a strand of hair to test. There is talk of penalizing obese people. They will get away with anything they can. This trend will continue. Discriminators will become more widespread.

The US (both private and governmental entities) misses absolutely no opportunity to get it wrong. Good grief, you want what some would have originally termed a 'slippery slope' fallacy until it actually happened? We've got drones that are being used against US citizens for extrajudicial executions.. thanks Holder, you ass. We've got warrantless wiretapping (thanks Obama).

Just those two alone should have the shit hitting the fan alarm sounding... but motherfuckers are complacent now. As long as we can park our ass in a Barcalounger, eat Cheetohs, drink Coke and watching Honey Boo Boo we simply don't care.

We're the frog that's being boiled alive.

If you want to know what the coming two-tier society is going to look like, watch Gattaca.

I'm sorry if I'm being a bit crass, but how people cannot see that this is going to bite us in the ass at this point is just beyond me.

Should the research be done? Probably. But maybe we'd better put a lot more thought into the ethical ramifications. These two scientists are the worst possible champions of this sort of research; they've got skin in the game and the ends will justify the means for them.

As my drill sergeant used to like to say: You'd better wake the fuck up, soldier!

Or as Hicks put it: stay frosty.

There's an increase in the level of imbecility in the American public: http://now.msn.com/more-passengers-trying-to-take-guns-on-planes-says-tsa