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No. According to MSDN, only URLs that are not common are sent to the Microsoft server for verification. This list of not-common URLs sit on your machine, and even then only the base of the URL is sent to Microsoft for analysis.

Here's the blurb from MSDN:

Phishing Filter does not check every URL on the Microsoft server. It only sends those which are not on a known list of OK sites or those that appear suspicious based on heuristics. If an URL is checked on the Microsoft server, first the URL is stripped down to the path to help remove personal information, then the remaining URL is sent over a secure SSL connection. The communication with the Microsoft server is done asynchronously so that there is little to no effect on your browsing experience.

So, for example, if you were to visit http://www.msn.com/ nothing will be checked on the Microsoft server because "msn.com" and other major websites are on the client-side list of OK sites. However, let's say the URL looked like this: http://207.68.172.246/result.aspx?u=Tariq&p=Tariq' sPassword, in this scenario phishing filter will remove the query string to help protect my privacy but it will send "http://207.68.172.246/result.aspx" to be checked by the Microsoft Server because 207.68.172.246 is not on the allow list of OK sites. As it turns out, 207.68.172.246 is just the IP address of MSN.com server, so its not a phishing site but this example should help you understand more about how Phishing Filter checks sites on the server.

But thanks for spreading the FUD.

Elevated estrogen and estrogen mimicking substances have made it into our rivers and streams, causing signs of hermaphroditism in fish. Scientists have discovered a wide range of other drugs in our drinking water, from pain killers to birth control pills to antidepressants. High levels of rocket fuel toxins have been found in mothers' milk. My city still uses lead piping to transfer most of its water, and they alkalinize the water to reduce lead levels to "acceptable" levels, even though scientists have pretty much shown that the only acceptable lead level is no lead at all.

It's not entirely clear what, if any, effects these substances have on developing children. Personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry and remove these contaminants from my water.

Problem was that the feds didn't do what they could have, why would they do any more when given more powers?

we could clean up the books quite a bit and put a lot of lawyers out of business, so in other words it will never happen

Well said. Here's the science: (source article)

Corporations and affiliated individuals have coughed up a big chunk of that money. By industry, the top honor on the giving roll goes to lawyers and law firms, with $89 million contributed, according to Federal Election Commission data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics, which describes itself as nonpartisan and nonprofit. As the Republicans have said in campaign after campaign, the bulk of that -- 69% to 30% -- has gone to Democrats. But the Republicans don't need to worry; there's plenty of money coming into their till from other industries. Second place goes to the retirement industry with $86 million (54% goes to Republicans). Third place? The real estate industry with $53 million (57% goes to Republicans.)

After the large amount of press last week Steve Jobs got from the Newsweek article last week where he said the Wi-Fi feature on the Zune was stupid because, I'm suprised to hear this. I know the article was about downloading music from iTunes via Wi-Fi, but can you imagine them not adding the functionality to send songs to other players? While I'm not a fan of eithe the iPod or the Zune, it must hurt to have one of the most 'inovative' companies in the world follow MS.

Therefore people who are searching for information about the candidate are more likely to read the targeted article. It's simple and not at all misleading.

That really depends on the article being link to, doesn't it? Some stories evolve over time, and are even shown to be false in the end. Retractions never seem to get as much ink in a paper as the main story. By linking multiple stories you might even succeed in burying the later story with correct information, pushing it back several pages in a search engine. It may take time for enough links to be tallied for any correcting information to show up in a search. Linking to a story in an obscure journal would produce a negative story with nothing questioning it. And then there are the crank sites with lots of links to echo chambers, outrageous claims, and few helpful facts. Over a short period of time, google bombing could be a powerful way to mislead people.

This story certainly evolved over time. There are still people on Slashdot who believe, or at least pretend, that the first story is true. What if it had been broadcast 6 weeks later than it was?

Sept 9, 2004:Old memos bring new turbulence for Bush

September 20, 2004:CBS can't vouch for Bush Guard memos

Jan 10, 2005: CBS ousts four for roles in Bush Guard story

Therefore people who are searching for information about the candidate are more likely to read the targeted article. It's simple and not at all misleading.

That really depends on the article being link to, doesn't it? Some stories evolve over time, and are even shown to be false in the end. Retractions never seem to get as much ink in a paper as the main story. By linking multiple stories you might even succeed in burying the later story with correct information, pushing it back several pages in a search engine. It may take time for enough links to be tallied for any correcting information to show up in a search. Linking to a story in an obscure journal would produce a negative story with nothing questioning it. And then there are the crank sites with lots of links to echo chambers, outrageous claims, and few helpful facts. Over a short period of time, google bombing could be a powerful way to mislead people.

This story certainly evolved over time. There are still people on Slashdot who believe, or at least pretend, that the first story is true. What if it had been broadcast 6 weeks later than it was?

Sept 9, 2004:Old memos bring new turbulence for Bush

September 20, 2004:CBS can't vouch for Bush Guard memos

Jan 10, 2005: CBS ousts four for roles in Bush Guard story

Since the day I realized girls aren't all that into limp teenage stubble, I've used a certain 3-bladed razor whose name I won't mention because they're not paying me to do so and I don't give out freebies.

It's always seemed sufficient, but I've never been happy with the red irritation that seems to perpetually inhabit my neckal region.

I stumbled across this article a while back, which convinced me that razor technology has been pointlessly nursing a fatal blunder made 50 years ago rather than admitting defeat and going back to the way it used to be.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6886845/

On the other hand, you might just view disposables as a parallel market - one for people who value a few extra minutes of their time high above comfort, psychological satisfaction, and a smooth babyface.

I, for one, intend to invest in a nice quality old-school shaving kit very soon rather than pay the 3-blade racketeers their outrageous replacement fees any longer.

For a shave much better than a safety razor, check out this article:

How to get that perfect shave

which points to this site:

ClassicShaving.com

I'm surprised I don't see a link to the original story yet, so here it is:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/10/24/122153/98

From the story:

--AZ-Sen: Jon Kyl, --AZ-01: Rick Renzi, --AZ-05: J.D. Hayworth, --CA-04: John Doolittle, --CA-11: Richard Pombo, --CA-50: Brian Bilbray, --CO-04: Marilyn Musgrave, --CO-05: Doug Lamborn, --CO-07: Rick O'Donnell, --CT-04: Christopher Shays, --FL-13: Vernon Buchanan, --FL-16: Joe Negron, --FL-22: Clay Shaw, --ID-01: Bill Sali, --IL-06: Peter Roskam, --IL-10: Mark Kirk, --IL-14: Dennis Hastert, --IN-02: Chris Chocola, --IN-08: John Hostettler, --IA-01: Mike Whalen, --KS-02: Jim Ryun, --KY-03: Anne Northup, --KY-04: Geoff Davis, --MD-Sen: Michael Steele, --MN-01: Gil Gutknecht, --MN-06: Michele Bachmann, --MO-Sen: Jim Talent, --MT-Sen: Conrad Burns, --NV-03: Jon Porter, --NH-02: Charlie Bass, --NJ-07: Mike Ferguson, --NM-01: Heather Wilson, --NY-03: Peter King, --NY-20: John Sweeney, --NY-26: Tom Reynolds, --NY-29:

--AZ-Sen: Jon Kyl --AZ-01: Rick Renzi --AZ-05: J.D. Hayworth --CA-04: John Doolittle --CA-11: Richard Pombo --CA-50: Brian Bilbray --CO-04: Marilyn Musgrave --CO-05: Doug Lamborn --CO-07: Rick O'Donnell --CT-04: Christopher Shays --FL-13: Vernon Buchanan --FL-16: Joe Negron --FL-22: Clay Shaw --ID-01: Bill Sali --IL-06: Peter Roskam --IL-10: Mark Kirk --IL-14: Dennis Hastert --IN-02: Chris Chocola --IN-08: John Hostettler --IA-01: Mike Whalen --KS-02: Jim Ryun --KY-03: Anne Northup --KY-04: Geoff Davis --MD-Sen: Michael Steele --MN-01: Gil Gutknecht --MN-06: Michele Bachmann --MO-Sen: Jim Talent --MT-Sen: Conrad Burns --NV-03: Jon Porter --NH-02: Charlie Bass --NJ-07: Mike Ferguson --NM-01: Heather Wilson --NY-03: Peter King --NY-20: John Sweeney --NY-26: Tom Reynolds --NY-29: Randy Kuhl --NC-08: Robin Hayes --NC-11: Charles Taylor --OH-01:

"wanting legislation to stop) "the press" from "controlling and shaping" its own editorical content"
I never said I wanted legislation to stop the press from "editorical(sp) content" That is your bizarre interpretation of what I said. What I want (at least I know) is for the FCC to do their job and regulate the media conglomerates. You know, the way they used to before Congress was bought off in 1996. Nevermind, I'm sure you weren't paying attention then, as you aren't now.

"However, by objective measures (the counting of independent voices owned by different "publishers", it is not happening at all."
What objective voices are you referring to? I have supplied many links to analyses of media consolidation, and I could supply more. I think your problem is you don't even understand what media consolidation is, let alone if it's happening.

"1) Show me one single unbiased study on this"
I guess you didn't hear the one about the FCC doing it's own study, and not liking what they found, so they destroyed it...
"The report commissioned under Michael Powell turned out to undermine his argument that consolidation has no ill effects on local news, and he ordered "every last piece" of the study destroyed."

"2) This matter has nothing to do with democracy."
Wow, I almost want to think your baiting me with this one. But if you are being sarcastic, you're hiding too well, so I assume your serious. Theres a country called North Korea you would feel really at home at. How do you think the fomenters of dissent during the American Revolution got their message across? It wasn't telepathy. It was media, like Thomas Paines 'Common Sense' pamphlet.

"Zod of government and give up their Constitional right to "control and shape" (your words) their own publications."
Nice, pulling a DC Comics analogy to debate media consolidation. Whats next, Optimus Prime for president?

"encourage the creation of additional tubes in the Internets"
I see you and Ted Stevens are good friends. Can we have Chutes and Ladders too?

"Don't censor the existing ones. Instead, make it easier for new voices to enter."
Media consolidation is a form or censorship, by allowing control of media content to a smaller and smaller group of people.

Well right off I can give you my short list (in no particular order):
Finland
Norway
Switzerland
Netherlands
Sweden
Australia
Perhaps UK somewhere (England, Ireland, Scotland)

of course I live in Canada so I can't pick that (and no I would NOT move to the USA)

The main disadvantages that many might have with the scandinavian countries are A) the cold weather, B) the taxes, and C)relitive remoteness and smaller urbanized areas.

Well Canada is A) Cold, B) has high taxes also, and C) unless you live in Toronto, Vancouver can be somewhat remote and smaller urban areas. So not so different really, certainly not so much to cause distress.

I picked Australia pretty much because as far are warmer countries go it seems pretty nice. Also I hear girls down under dig the Canadian accent :) . The one thing that sort of bothers me is that everything seems to be poisonious. I have also read some stuff about their current conservative government... of course these things come and go... Currently we have a like problem, though Harper isn't so bad as far as robots go, you just have to get to know him...

Another great thing about Australia and the UK is I don't need to learn a new language (though I know that most of the Scandinavian contries seem to have an absurd rate of english speaking also like 80-90%, but I would feel bad living there without learning the native tounge). The other great thing about the UK is all the shared heritage between them and Canada. Lots of relations on both sides, shared culture. Being from Nova Scotia (New Scotland), there are a lot of shared traditions with the British Iles, more so than central, or western Canada.

Also just to illistrate how great my choices are, here are some links to stuff like UN polls etc...

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/international/ displayStory.cfm?story_id=3372495&d=2005

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9085910/

I was looking for the actual UN list of top 50 or whatever, as I remember Canada used to be at #1 for many years, until Norway finally de-throned us Canadians. Though I suspect it had more to do with Norway's expansion of oil production in the North Sea, and the smart way they are using the funds for the future (Canada has oil as well, but it doesn't seemed to be handled in as intelligent way, too many competing interests).

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/04/eui.sur vey/
http://www.citymayors.com/environment/eiu_bestciti es.html

apparently some of the best cities to live in are in Australia and Switzerland.

Also these countries have a robust Hockey culture as well. I have friends who love Soccer, but I am not one of them.
Finland
Norway
Switzerland
Sweden

So I think this is the difinitive choices of where to live!
Finland
Norway
Switzerland
Netherlands
Sweden
Australia
Ireland

And of course Canada, if you are not already there! :)

A few years ago Michael Powell had a study commissioned on the effects of local news coverage by large media consolidation. The study, done by the FCC came back with results indicating that large media consolidation had a detrimental effect on local and small market media. What did the FCC, and your good buddy Michael Powell do?

destroy all copies of a draft study that suggested greater concentration of media ownership would hurt local TV news coverage

To say we live in Orwellian times is not hyperbole!

Slate is owned by Washington Post and MSNBC'es "MS" comes from Microsoft. They do every kind of possible compatibility tricks disallowing other systems rather than their Win32/IE combination too.

Slate was always kind of "independent", we must admit it. I have seen/read many anti BillG/Windows stuff there.

Firefox 2 is a major update to a browser which is used on millions of machines and started to be choice of companies. I don't favour it on OS X (feels like Windows) but it is the truth.

See where Firefox 2 release is buried on their "Technology News", you will figure it is owned by Microsoft in its full extent.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032118/

Just months ago, those fascist were suggesting to update their IE to Mac OS X using people while there is no such thing exists anymore. Just to "punish" us for not using their OS. Not to forget MS Media Player 7 was causing major problems on OS X Tiger (10.4,latest) too.

So what? All the reports came back "DON'T INVADE IRAQ" and "DON'T MESS WITH TERRY SCHIAVO'S ANIMATED CORPSE" and "THE LEVEES WILL BREAK" and "FOLEY IS A CHILD MOLESTER" and...

Our Republican government is visionary. They're not distracted by polls or mere facts from government agencies... Republicans know government doesn't work, and they'll prove it to you every chance they get.

So welcome our Republican overlords, and their shiny new RFID IDs. Why should identity theft be limited to a few thousand wired Americans each day, when Republicans can bring us a Pwnership society?

... unfortunately, teh masses have been conditioned to believe the things you speak of are un-possible. Just look what happened to my post on the same topic yesterday: (-1, Troll). Disbelief is widespread.

There's always been a dedicated few fighting the globalist gangsters, and now a few in the media are starting to pick up on the plot too - namely, Keith Olberman (see his special comments, also on YouTube) and Lou Dobbs. Hopefully when the elections get stolen (again), this time we'll have riots in the street...

The global economy is in meltdown, plan accordingly. China will do well after the restructuring, because they now have so much production capability. America will have to re-industrialize, so we'll be able to produce the things we still need...

Some articles to think about in the upcoming election:

Jon Kyl Rick Renzi J.D. Hayworth John Doolittle Richard Pombo Brian Bilbray Marilyn Musgrave Doug Lamborn Rick O'Donnell Christopher Shays Vernon Buchanan Joe Negron Clay Shaw Bill Sali Peter Roskam Mark Kirk Dennis Hastert Chris Chocola John Hostettler Mike Whalen Jim Ryun Anne Northup Geoff Davis Michael Steele Gil Gutknecht Michele Bachmann Jim Talent Conrad Burns Jon Porter Charlie Bass Mike Ferguson Heather Wilson Peter King John Sweeney Tom Reynolds Randy Kuhl Robin Hayes Charles Taylor Steve Chabot Jean Schmidt Deborah Pryce

The recent law that Bush signed gives him (the office of President) and the Secretary of Defense sole discretion in determining who qualifies as an enemy combatant. The old guidelines are out the window.

Check this out for more info:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15220450/
Note: the article was written after the bill was passed by Congress but before Bush signed it into law.

How many problems do they have with terrorists? I can see Bush trying to implement such a "security" plan. I mean, someone has to think of the children!

Say there, "Rick" 'ol buddy.... this is what the criminal, terrorist North Korean regime does for "security".

Now... do you really think that is what President Bush plans to do? If so, when? He has already had six years, is he saving it for the last day in office instead of a Clinton style flurry of pardons? Who do you think would help him perpetrate a similar atrocity? Do you think the FBI and Army are going to help do that? Hmmmm? And who do you think they are going to do it to? American citizens? Democrats?

Think of the children? I'm thinking of one......, make that four, right now.

You must be eaten by the snake first, then the crocodile eats the snake. Otherwise, if the snake eats the crocodile, the curse comes to a messy end

Of course, you could be required to eat every last part of both the snake and crocodile. That sounds the worst of all possible six combinations.

Thanks for that link.

I'd counter by pointing out that:

1. It took more than a few minutes of persuasion, in many cases it took a lifetime of careful brainwashing.
2. They are hardly reliable.
3. Never tell anyone? More like they can't shut up about it.
4. They are hardly identical. One of the main problems with such a "coalition" is that it depends on it's members being ignorant of how much their goals differ from the other members.
5. If you don't think they give off more than a "slight indication that anything is amiss" you obviously haven't talked to any for more than a minute or two.

--MarkusQ

I never saw the point of aol, evven when i got my first online account, yes it was aol and I hated it. I could not use it on my red hat 6.2 back then that angerd me. So i went and switched to earth link wich was linux freindly. Even on my home computer I had an Macintosh LC II, and like today it aol was anoying, all i wanted was a connection, not this fluff and doddas. On the other hand you have to give it up to aol, the smartest thing they ever did was purchase instant messenger, from terroist, lol. (yes it's a somewhat joke, no offense to anyone). AOL please be gone, yahoo better, MSN Better, Google THE BEST!!! No better place out there, I would pay to have more Google, Let me repeat my self if any google staffers read slashdot... I would pay to have more email space, no adds or little adds while searching and my own web page, I would pay!!. Out of the bunch google has gotten it right!!! just what I need no extra fluff here and there. To put it plainly google should trademark and pattent all it's interfaces, simple but highly effective. PeRiod. I mean really for those who are true users of the net and thier pc and don't jsut go to thier computers to look at some COOL funny vide take a look at all three home pages for your self. Google the simplest looking, but a monster behind that plain steel door fire door. An analogy yahoo is the bachelor pad with all the trimmings for *^%$$*$#@ MSN is the car that tries to do every thing for you sometimes even drive Google is the LOFT where you have to make your own walls, and the hummer that can get pretty much an job done. http://google.com/ http://msn.com/ http://yahoo.com/

Ansari: I think where he really crossed the line where the domestic audience is concerned is when he said a green aura was coming out of his head during his speech to the United Nations. This conversation got filmed, and people can watch it on DVD. Ahmadinejad came home from his speech and told an ayatollah that everyone at the General Assembly -- all these world leaders -- didn't even blink for thirty minutes (out of awe). Lots of people have seen this in Iran, and it makes him seem a bit too superstitious.

The corn lobbyists didn't do anything to the health of the country.

Are you really sure about that?
If they use their lobby to circumvent the intent of a regulatory body designed to protect people's health, they did something to the health of those the agency is supposed to protect.

Unfortunatly, the FDA is a pawn of lobbyist, aspartame, MSG, countless other poisons pass as "not harmfull" when they shouldn't. The most sesitive (migraines, epilectics) are harmed immediatly, like canaries in a mine, the rest of the population is harmed in the long-term, in a subtle fashion that won't be easily traced back to it's cause: Small doses of poison, over a long period of time.

According to MSNBC alltunes was shut off Oct 1 already by Visa; they are not that stupid, yet. (And no, mastercard does not work either).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15323093/

Virtually all of the state's skate parks were shut down after a ruling by the state Supreme Court that overturned twenty years of case law by voiding the protection from liability lawsuits previously afforded to public parks. No word yet on whether the public pools will open next summer.

Sucks to be a kid here -- I may move to save my daughter the trauma. Too bad Wyoming doesn't have better broadband coverage...

There is no excuse for the diabetes pre-epidemic, that is certain to grow rapidly in the next 10+ years. There are definitely safer ways to sweeten foods and drink products, but the higher margins are of course with the good old cheap-o-corn syrup extract, by-products. There has got to be some regulation here sooner or latter, or are kids are in for a horrible middle age.

You're exactly right.

And while they say that they factored out irrelevant things like petroleum use (what if smog is a factor? never mind), it's simple economics that cable roll-outs occurred first in high-income neighborhoods with new construction close to urban areas. Similarly, I'm getting Verizon's fiber-to-the-door (FiOS) service in my neighborhood now - when will it roll out in Wisconsin?

The highest rates of autism are in silicon valley, the Baltimore-Washington corridor, North Carolina's red triangle, and Boston. These are also places that got cable pretty early, but the more important factor, to me, is that they're places where geeky Asperger's types congregate. Several studies have shown that kids with autism tend to have older (but not OLD) fathers and more analytical than average parents. Sounds like geek breeding habits to me, but what do I know.

Besides, they're also reporting that it's genetic today:

    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15294367/

As the father of an autistic, I follow this stuff a little closer than the regular /. reader. So trust me when I tell you that new causes for autism come out in the news more often than iPod killers. And similarly, they almost never amount to anything. I've learned to take just about everything I hear about autism with a grain of salt. Jared, the son I was told would never talk or read or develop, is now reading above a first-grade level and doing well in Kindergarten. The kid they told me would never understand emotion or show affection told me on Friday, "It's good to have you home, daddy" and then gave me a big hug with an even bigger smile plastered on his face.

So don't trust anybody that tells you that they understand autism.

Ok, but where they don't diverge (which you've established as the norm) it is worthy of note that "large families -- in the suburbs, at least -- are a new status symbol." See http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15187040/

True. Here's some info on North Carolina's "Eugenics Board":

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7242649/site/newsweek/

For an even more obvious example, check out most commercially available bananas

Yes, by all means do: "The common banana found at breakfast tables all over the developed world is in peril. Both pests and disease are threatening to make it extinct. The banana most familiar to us, and most in danger, is the Nanica variety of the Cavendish cultivar group. All Nanica banana plants are more or less genetically identical. Since the cultivar is sterile and seedless, it is spread by clippings, creating clones instead of offspring. It was adopted more than 50 years ago when the previous Gros Michel variety was killed off by a blight. The chief hazards to today's banana are pests, Black (and Yellow) Sigatoka fungi, and Panama disease." (emphasis added.)

Monocultures are susceptible to disease, and the case of bananas is empirical proof that monocultures do die off from disease. Widespread use of artificial insemination in cattle production already means that most beeves in North America are the offspring of a relatively small number of bulls. There is already a concern within the veterinary community regarding inbreeding and genetic homogeneity. Cloning has the potential to make this problem worse.

They have no right to monitor your system first off.
Secondly, you payed 50 Dollars for said game (bf2142), and they have the nerve to advertise to you in game?
If there are advertisements the game should be absolutely free as in beer.

I think it is time for a boycott against companies like EA thinking that they have this much power to tell the User that they must submit their privacy to play a game.

It is a sick world out there.
It is not just this, everything out there these days is out to minimize your privacy
Examples:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15221095/ (loss of privacy)
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html (the patriot act)

Personal Freedoms FTW!

Sure, you might get them to register their ISP email address. I doubt very much though that offenders are going to register Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo or any other free email services. And who is going to police the offenders? Who is going to check the IP numbers against all the free email services and a the list of sex offenders to make sure that they are not using a "secret" email address? Oh I know they will get PervertedJustice http://www.perverted-justice.com/ and Dateline http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032600/ to do it. Yeah, those two groups would be perfect. They can't even keep track of sex offenders in the real world.

Sirius trouble turning a profit
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Str eetPatrol/SiriusTroubleTurningAProfit.aspx

Get Sirius? Not until the company does
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P134732.asp

Jock pay stings Sirius
Company's loss creates debate on Stern's value
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117942418.html?c ategoryid=18&cs=1&s=h&p=0

etc., etc., etc....

Sirius trouble turning a profit
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Str eetPatrol/SiriusTroubleTurningAProfit.aspx

Get Sirius? Not until the company does
http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/P134732.asp

Jock pay stings Sirius
Company's loss creates debate on Stern's value
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117942418.html?c ategoryid=18&cs=1&s=h&p=0

etc., etc., etc....

Their study is bogus. Obesity has been already linked to depression, and everyone knows that the depressed person has more problems with memory and with cognitive thinking. So they spent all of that money on the study for nothing. Obesity Linked to Depression, or Vice Versa Obesity and Depression

Maybe a real-time feed from the 911 dept could have prevented this tragedy in the Seattle area:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8589349/

Would these be allowed?

wouldyouliketotouchmymonk.ie
spankthemonk.ie
shockthemonk.ie
thisguydiedafterhavingsexwithahors.ie

?

But for South Korea, a more immediate danger may be North Korea's artillery.

The capital Seoul, only 60 km (37 miles) south of the heavily fortified Demilitarized Zone that has divided the peninsula since the end of the Korean War in 1953, has long been within range of one of the world's most powerful artillery batteries.

South Korea's Defense Ministry said the North had amassed more than 13,000 pieces of artillery and multiple rocket launchers, much of it aimed at Seoul.

Jane's International Defense Review estimates that if North Korea launched an all-out barrage, it could achieve an initial fire rate of 300,000 to 500,000 shells per hour into the Seoul area -- home to about half the country's 48.5 million people.

The biggest are 170-mm self-propelled artillery guns and 240-mm multiple rocket launchers. It also has hundreds of Scud missiles that could hit any part of South Korea.

"We have reason to believe that the chemical weapons are with the forward artillery units that are targeting Seoul. If we don't get those early, we end up with chemicals on Seoul." North Korea: The War Game

When negotiators were hammering out the 1994 accord - over similar concerns about North Korea's nuclear intentions - Pyongyang also warned that it would turn the South Korean capital of Seoul into a "sea of fire".

SEOUL, South Korea -- In an unusually explicit threat to its neighbor yesterday, North Korea warned that Japan would be immersed in a "nuclear sea of fire" if the United States were to attack the North.

Speaking to the BBC's Mike Thompson in Pyongyang, Mr Ri said his government was becoming increasingly alarmed at signs that Washington planned to send more aircraft carriers, bombers and troops to the region.

He said such actions would mean that the US was either planning to invade the North or launch attacks against it.

In response, he insisted, Pyongyang would not just sit and wait, and might decide to strike first if necessary.

The country currently has a standing army of more than one million soldiers. The US has about 37,000 troops based in South Korea.

Also ask yourself if Saddams regime was so evil why did the US put most of the Saddams government back into the administration of the country for some time.

Unfortunately they didn't. They went after all Baath party members and banned them from power, and moved in exile Iraqis like this guy, missing a few billions in the process.

If they hadn't removed the whole former ruling elite from power, the U.S. might have had chance for a turnaround, but if you criminalize most of the people who know how to run this country and give them no other chance than to fight you, you are fucked.

The cost have already piled up to over 300 billion, and may total up to more than 1 trillion dollars if the U.S. will stay a few more years under the same circumstances. What an incredible screw-up.

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Also ask yourself if Saddams regime was so evil why did the US put most of the Saddams government back into the administration of the country for some time.

Unfortunately they didn't. They went after all Baath party members and banned them from power, and moved in exile Iraqis like this guy, missing a few billions in the process.

If they hadn't removed the whole former ruling elite from power, the U.S. might have had chance for a turnaround, but if you criminalize most of the people who know how to run this country and give them no other chance than to fight you, you are fucked.

The cost have already piled up to over 300 billion, and may total up to more than 1 trillion dollars if the U.S. will stay a few more years under the same circumstances. What an incredible screw-up.

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Known as the 'mountain of mysterious fragrance', Mt. Myohyang ('Myohyangsan' in Korean) is one of the most beautiful places I have seen on the Korean peninsula. Thanks to the International Friendship Exhibition, it is also one of the weirdest. Though the name sounds nice enough, an exhibition of friendship, in reality the place is best described as the mecca of Kim-clan worship.

Also imprisoned were others who were perceived to be potential complainers and persons who purposely or inadvertently did not take proper care of photographs of the Great Leader, Kim Il Sung, or the Dear Leader, Kim Jong Il, or even of newspapers that contained photographs of the father and son. The Hidden Gulag

It is the widespread jailing of political prisoners' families that makes North Korea unique, according to human rights advocates.

Under a directive issued by Kim's father, North Korea's founder, Kim Il Sung, three generations of a dissident's family can be jailed simply on the basis of a denunciation.

NBC News interviewed two former prisoners and a former guard about conditions in the camps. The three spent their time at different camps. Their litany of camp brutalities is unmatched anywhere in the world, say human rights activists....

. ... Kang Chol-Hwan is now a journalist with Chosun Ilbo, South Korea's most important newspaper. His recent book, "The Aquariums of Pyongyang," is the first memoir of a North Korean political prisoner. For nearly a decade, he was imprisoned because his grandfather had made complimentary statements about Japanese capitalism. He was a 9-year-old when he arrived at the Yodok camp. His grandfather was never seen again, and prison conditions killed his father....

. ... The system appears to draw no distinction between those accused of the crime and their family members.

In prison, says Kwon Hyok, "there is a watchdog system in place between members of five different families. So if I were caught trying to escape, then my family and the four neighbouring families are shot to death out of collective responsibility."

Updated: 8:36 a.m. ET May 25, 2004

PORTLAND, Ore. - Offering a rare public apology, the FBI admitted mistakenly linking an American lawyer's fingerprint to one found near the scene of a terrorist bombing in Spain, a blunder that led to his imprisonment for two weeks.

Updated: 1:35 p.m. ET July 24, 2005

LONDON - British police on Sunday defended a policy of shooting to kill suspected suicide bombers after shooting dead a Brazilian electrician by mistake in the hunt for London's bombers.

Brazil has demanded an explanation from Britain after police searching for four men suspected of trying to bomb London's transport system last Thursday shot Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, at an Underground train station in south London.

Updated: 8:36 a.m. ET May 25, 2004

PORTLAND, Ore. - Offering a rare public apology, the FBI admitted mistakenly linking an American lawyer's fingerprint to one found near the scene of a terrorist bombing in Spain, a blunder that led to his imprisonment for two weeks.

Updated: 1:35 p.m. ET July 24, 2005

LONDON - British police on Sunday defended a policy of shooting to kill suspected suicide bombers after shooting dead a Brazilian electrician by mistake in the hunt for London's bombers.

Brazil has demanded an explanation from Britain after police searching for four men suspected of trying to bomb London's transport system last Thursday shot Brazilian Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, at an Underground train station in south London.

...but can someone explain why the stock price is going up based upon this news? MFE

Sometimes bad news really is bad news.

Yeah, the rational explanation is that the US does its job stopping or slowing that nuke proliferation, except when it's Bush's job.

2000: Rumsfeld is a Director on the board of ABB when it wins a $200M contract to supply N Korea with nuke reactors, though he denies knowledge of it
2002: Bush names N Korea part of the "Axis of Evil"
2002: Bush gives N Korea $95M for stopping its nuke programme, but then waived the inspections , claiming secret "national security" reasons
2005: Bush violates 6-way deal with N Korea to abandon it's nuke programme by freezing N Korean financial connections and branding it a criminal state
2006: N Korea detonates a nuke weapon

Because N Korea with nuke missiles drives demand for the Star Wars budgets Bush has always prioritized higher than any other military policy. Bush puts a Star Wars scientist in charge of NASA, chokes NASA from its peaceful projects while telling Americans he's putting a man on Mars, goads N Korea into testing nukes while waiving inspections on nuke plants Rumsfeld sold them.

You want to talk about Iran's nuke program, we can talk about Nixon and the Shah. It's going to look at least as ugly.

You're talking to the wrong person with that kind of "Bush didn't cause the hurricane, so he's not to blame for Katrina" spin cycle - partly because I lived in New Orleans for years, and I know Bush didn't care about Black people for years before he denied he knew the levees would break.

Bush's job is to protect the US by managing the complex systems in which we're the central player. He consistently screws them up, usually to his corporate cronies' benefit, almost always to his political power benefit, and always at our expense.

This time he's helped produce a crazy nuke tyrant allied with China. Nice job, Bushie.

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Invading Kuwait was an obviously idiotic move for Saddam a decade and a half ago, but he still did it.

Emm, no. Kuwait used to be a part of Iraq, so it's not all that idiotic or unheard of historically for a country to seek restoration of former colonies/land. Saddam was a US ally at the time and actually asked the US gov for their thoughts and they told him to go ahead. It was only after the exiled Kuwaiti sheiks hired a US PR company that world opinion changed. The PR company had a girl lie to the US congress (live on TV) about the Iraqi soldiers killing babies and the rest is history.

the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with Kim Jong Ill's decision to produce nuclear weapons.

I and most of the worlds analysts disagree. Please see this article that clearly demostrates that the Bush administration have directly provoked the North Koreans. They also named N. Korea in their access of evil, one third of which has already been invaded and Iran is also under serious scrutiny. You and I know that King Jong is currently shitting himself in a marble bathroom.

Either you just felt like taacking on random adjectives that had nothing to do with anything, or you interpreted my saying "little man" as racist

That wasn't what I meant. Making the enemy leadership seem stupid is a standard tactic. "They live in caves" was the arabic equivalent. I do not accept that King Jong is stupid, but I must conceed that I don't know much about his accent to power. But it is very common for Americans to look down on the intelligence of other peoples. I assumed (possibly incorrectly) that your opinion of his inteligence was based on that.

I apologise if I was rude to you earlier. The spin and the lack of information in popular news sources infuriates me and as there is not much I can do about it, I probably take it out too much on people that don't deserve it.

So, I guess you are among the 1 in 3 people that actually has confidence in our leadership? How does it feel to know that 2 out of every 3 people think you are wrong?