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Re:When is the Hack Apache contest?
Try just about 70%.
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Re:Is it running IIS 6?Look again
They just switched to IIS 6.0 yesterday, actually.
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Netcraft.com says otherwise
Odd that netcraft says that the server is running
Microsoft-IIS/5.0
http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:/ /hackiis6.com -
Netcraft
And netcraft is reporting the server as Windows 2000 and IIS 5.0
http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:/ /www.hackiis6.com -
Netcraft says it's IIS 5
http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:
/ /www.hackiis6.com
Netcraft says it's running IIS5, Is Netcraft ever wrong? -
Is it running IIS 6?
According to Netcraft, the server is running IIS 5: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:
/ /hackiis6.com -
Re:pfff...
According to http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http:
/ /Microsoft.com/ they run Win2k3 and IIS6. -
Re:No reboots
Linky. Somehow I screwed that in my post
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Re:Vlad the Impaler...
Well, kinda. IIS has always been one of Microsoft's worst products. Apache market-share continues to grow at the expense of everyone else.
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Re:MS is dying!
And Netcraft confirms it!
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Requiem for the FUD// Please *don't* mod this up. It has already been done! Thx
... facts are facts.
;)FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."NetBSD:
NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
"The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration." ..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)--
Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'. -
Requiem for the FUD// Please *don't* mod this up. It has already been done! Thx
... facts are facts.
;)FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."NetBSD:
NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
"The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration." ..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)--
Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'. -
Obligatory
Netcraft confirms it!
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Re:Or the alternative yet inconsiderable theory...why should they? they don't make it, nor do they make money on it, and, nor do the actually use it.
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Re:Worth Noting -- it's not just Windows servers!
Which pretty much matches the deployment of each type of webserver.
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/04/01/april _2005_web_server_survey.html
Netcraft stats are best taken with a pinch of salt, but they're good enough for this comparison. -
Re:IE bias too
> Maybe it is Google discriminating *against* IIS, not Microsoft for.
He said that the distibution of servers from Google's results matched those published by Netcraft (http://news.netcraft.com/archives/web_server_surv ey.html) very closely. -
Re:Silly, silly boys (and girls)
Actually, what would be even better is to configure his web server to report itself as IIS in the headers it returns. That's the only real way to know what a web server is running
I was simply offering some insight regarding this comment. Whether or not the Spiders check the TCP stack is beyond the point I was getting at.
FWIW, Netcraft seem to look at the TCP signature, so I don't think it's far fetched to assume it could be implemented in MSN's spiders.
This link is an interesting read on why the HTTP headers are not a sure-fire way of knowing what a web server is running:
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/17/wwwmi crosoftcom_runs_linux_up_to_a_point_.html -
IIS is already irrelevant.IIS is already irrelevant.
In major countries like Germany, IIS is already down to around 3% of the server market. Even world wide, most people have the sense to run Apache. You can look at the percentages, but every time an IIS farm is rolled out, shortly thereafter, they wise up and drop it for Apache or any other product actually suited for being connected to the network.
Frankly, I'm not sure why this article even made it to Slashdot. Is slashdot or OSDN participating in this year's marketing tsunami by doing product placement ads? Please let's go a week without MS articles, there's enough shilling going on in the discussion without them.
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If you only have 20% of the market
...you gotta do something to pump up your buggy, non-mainstream, insecure webserver.
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Wow this screems!
Eat this Lienooks users
http://www.qbang.org/index.asp
OK. Maybe it his been 64 bit Linux for _over a year_.
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.qban g.org -
Re:The problem with AV
Then tell me, why is it that Microsoft's webserver is more vulnerable to exploits, viruses and trojans, http://www.google.com/search?q=+iis+apache+vulner
a ble, than it's competitor Apache which has a market share of 70% http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/08/01/augus t_2004_web_server_survey.html -
Re:Not really CMU, but Tepper School of Buisness
Tepper School of Business runs
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Why Movable Type ???
why every one is using Movable Type. I know it is best know out there but is not the only one even after bait and switch tactic See Netcraft
Other are very good tested e.g. Drupal at Spread Firefox
http://blogs.businessweek.com/mt/mt-check.cgi
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Fortune.com has a Netscape favicon
Does anyone else find it funny that the Fortune.com web site has a Netscape favicon installed? Did someone forget to change the default favicon.ico file from Netscape Enterprise Server 4.1?
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Requiem for the FUD// Please *don't* mod this up. It has already been done! Thx
... facts are facts.
;)FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."NetBSD:
NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
"The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration." ..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)--
Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'. -
Re:Why will more users = more insecurity?
I've never understood the argument that the more people that user firefox (or linux for that matter), then hackers will begin to target those users, too.
... What am I missing here?
You're not missing anything. Security is not a destination, it's a process. The products that are more secure are and always will be the ones who have a developer base which is dedicated to security; in other words, if the developers are right on top of things, releasing updates and patches and fixing security holes as soon as they are able to, and also take an effort to educate the users about how to help with security, then their products will be secure, no matter how many people use them or how prevelant they are in the marketplace. It doesn't even matter if they are commecial or open source.
The Apache Web server is currently running on about 70% of the internet's servers, and is rock solid and very secure, when properly configured. That's certainly a counter-argument to the marketshare = insecurity line of thinking.
Yes, more people will target the popular products. But security is a game of percentages, as well. If the attacker has to invest more into an attack than they will get out of it, then they won't bother. They'll find another place to attack. That's how things like The Club work: perfectly secure? No, of course not. Someone could bring a circular saw with a steel-cutting blade and be through it in several seconds. A pain in the ass for the would-be thief? Definitely. It's all about the percentages. -
Re:Are you sure he's dead?
Are you sure he's dead? Has Netcraft confirmed it?
As a matter of fact... Yes.
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/04/18/concl aves_start_slows_vatican_web_site.html
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Re:Breaking news: Slashdot ad revenue bust
Yes, but what does Netcraft have to say on the matter?
;)There is apparently no truth to rumors that the outage was caused by a "reverse Slashdot effect" driven by traffic from links on Roland Piquepaille's web site.
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Requiem for the FUD// Please *don't* mod this up. It has already been done! Thx
... facts are facts.
;)FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."NetBSD:
NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
"The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration." ..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)--
Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'. -
Re:So if the blog says....
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Even where SUN was born, SUN is going away.
For those of you who don't know SUN=Stanfod University Network. There are still at least a thousand Solaris boxes on campus, but the main centralized servers (web, AFS, etc.) are moving towards Debian. See http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.stan
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Requiem for the FUD// Please *don't* mod this up. It has already been done! Thx
// Btw: DragonFlyBSD is missing from this list because it's still too young for production use, not because it's less cool!!... facts are facts.
;)FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."NetBSD:
NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
"The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration." ..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)--
Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'. -- Requiem for the FUD -
Re:Moore's Law is Dying
... and netcraft confirms it!
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Re:Try eNom again
I just read an article on that. Yowch! What a lowly tatic! I'm surprised that isn't breaking some sort of regulation. Surely registering a domain name you never ordered in your name is fraud somehow?
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Err.. *who* says it's dying?.. :)
> And no, FreeBSD 5 is not dying.
Woa, thanks for the news!
I kinda thought that the 2.5 million active sites that FreeBSD is serving (it's much more than any given Linux distro; and it had a *25%* increase in one year) was a sign of imminent death. ;)
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Re:Here's a way to avert a crisis:
Netcraft confirms it, Red Hat's viable free linux distro is kicking everyone else's ass in growth rate, followed only by Gentoo who is growing 3 times slower but still 2nd place. (Just FYI, the debian category as I understand it includes all direct deriviatives too).
Regards,
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Requiem for the FUD// Please *don't* mod this up. It has already been done! Thx
... facts are facts.
;)FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."NetBSD:
NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
"The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration." ..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)--
Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'. -
And Netcraft proves . . .
From Netcraft in a query of www.yankeegroup.com:
OS, Web Server and Hosting History for www.yankeegroup.com
http://www.yankeegroup.com was running Microsoft-IIS
on Windows 2000 when last queried at 3-Apr-2005 19:35:06 GMT
It seems yankeegroup.com puts their money where their mouth is.
Maybe it is not so bad that they use a security risk as an OS. Maybe the 500 technology leaders chose better than the rest of us. There must be something this lady can find that is positive about Linux. I never see her kind remarks for what is a favorite for many, many companies for TCO and reliability. -
Apache server apparently now on Linux
Although TFA indicates FreeBSD, www.apache.org now seems to be running on a Linux server.
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Re:Blogger is down a lot now!
Actually on the (somewhat frequent
:) occasions I see problems and outages, I see JSP errors. It looks to me like they're using a Java servlet beast instead of (or in addition to) ASP. Netcraft seem to think they're running Linux+Apache, so perhaps it's a Tomcat deployment? -
Re:Dude
I don't usually do this, but:
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/04/01/april _2005_web_server_survey.html -
Re:Requisite Suse Rules post
SuSE grew on me as a distro while I was at Novell, but it still lags Red Hat, Debian, and Cobalt in the netcraft ratings, and Fedora will overtake it very, very soon if current growth patterns hold up. Worse, netcraft shows Fedora, Debian, Mandrake, and Gentoo all growing faster than SuSE. Is netcraft perfect? No. But it certainly suggests that SuSE is, at best, keeping up, and not pulling ahead. SuSE needs to work harder on innovating (both technologically, procedurally, and to a lesser extent, in marketing those other changes to the community) if it is going to catch up.
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Re:that was in the past...
I'd love to know where you get your info. I get mine from Netcraft. Like this one of 14th of march, 2005, stating:
"Among the other distributions, Debian has the fastest growth in absolute terms, and is secure for now in second place. But some of the smaller distributions are growing faster relative to their existing user base. Gentoo continues to roughly double each year, albeit from a low base. Mandrake's recent acquisition of Conectiva will boost it only slightly, as there are only a few thousand Conectiva sites in the survey; Mandrake's own growth is more significant."[1]
[1]http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/03/14
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Debian Fastest Growing
Please, people: stop the panic. T'was only one year ago that Debian was the "fastest growing distribution"[1] according to the almighty Netcraft.
And all of a sudden it's dying?
Please....
Kind regards...
Maarten
[1] http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/01/28/debi
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Re:Don't expect Lula to be reelected.
Lula's party, the PT, expended a lot of money in the last elections in Windows and Office licenses to provide its local branches with IT infrastructure.
The party's site used to run Linux/Apache until 2003. Now it is using IIS/Asp (http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.pt. org.br.
The Lula's party doesn't trust Open Source. Why should you trust Lula regarding its Open Source initiative? Isn't he just trying to show power to Microsoft and the other "big american corporations"? -
Netcraft confirms it
Hot hot brazillian pron stars use Linux!
Netcraft
(NSFW) Mike in Brazil (NSFW) -
Visit in batches - Please dont /. it
Here is a 3rd world govt that implemented IT in every facet of its operations. Corruption was part of the deal but committment was paramount. The end result is a happy citizen. Netcraft links this as an Apache on Linux site. It would be prudent for Brazilian planners to learn from the experiences of the AP implementers.
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Requiem for the FUD// Please *don't* mod this up. It has already been done! Thx
... facts are facts.
;)FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
What's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."NetBSD:
NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
"The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration." ..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)--
Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'. -
Requiem for the FUD// Please *don't* mod this up. It has already been done! Thx
... facts are facts.
;)FreeBSD:
FreeBSD, Stealth-Growth Open Source Project (Jun 2004)
"FreeBSD has dramatically increased its market penetration over the last year."
Nearly 2.5 Million Active Sites running FreeBSD (Jun 2004)
"[FreeBSD] has secured a strong foothold with the hosting community and continues to grow, gaining over a million hostnames and half a million active sites since July 2003."
W hat's New in the FreeBSD Network Stack (Sep 2004)
"FreeBSD can now route 1Mpps on a 2.8GHz Xeon whilst Linux can't do much more than 100kpps."NetBSD:
NetBSD, for When Portability and Stability Matter (Oct 2004)
NetBSD sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (May 2004)
NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (Sep 2004)OpenBSD:
OpenBSD Widens Its Scope (Nov 2004)
Review: OpenBSD 3.6 shows steady improvement (Nov 2004)
OpenSSH (OpenBSD subproject) has become a de facto Internet standard.*BSD in general:
Deep study: The world's safest computing environment (Nov 2004)
"The world's safest and most secure 24/7 online computing environment - operating system plus applications - is proving to be the Open Source platform of BSD (Berkeley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X based on Darwin."
BSD Success Stories (O'Reilly, 2004) (pdf) ~ from Onlamp BSD DevCenter
"The BSDs - FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, Darwin, and others - have earned a reputation for stability, security, performance, and ease of administration."
..and last but not least, we have the cutest mascot as well - undisputedly. ;)--
Being able to read *other people's* source code is a nice thing, not a 'fundamental freedom'. -
Re:yes
Some operating systems are more stable than others.
Seriously, a BSD machine being up for years is really not unusual. Having said that, windows has gotten a lot better over the years. I probably only have a crash or lockup about once a month as opposed to several times a day.